The Show's Use of Japanese Terms

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'm posting this to ask two questions basically, one for continued discussion, and one for my own use that I need an answer for. Hopefully it hasn't been addressed as it's own thing yet and I missed it. ^_^;

1) How do you all feel about the show's use of Japanese terms for certain styles, maneuvers, and so on, thus far? I myself have really been enjoying it, it really adds more depth and realism to Splinter's training, since he should know the proper terms for everything like this.

2) To be more specific and ask for help, what was the term that Splinter said in the first episode, after Raph had taken down Leo, to put an end to the sparring? It sounded like 'Yamet', but I wanted to be sure. I need to know for something I'm working on.

[ToTheNines]

"Hajime" means begin and "yame" means stop.

[CyberCubed]

I believe they said the fighting styles are based on real ninjutsu that they have someone working with them to demonstrate.

[Gyt Kaliba]

"Hajime" means begin and "yame" means stop.

Thanks! Making a note of that, that'll make this easier to work on now.

I believe they said the fighting styles are based on real ninjutsu that they have someone working with them to demonstrate.

Yeah, I remember reading that too, guess they probably got the real terms and pronunciation guides off of those people as well probably.

[Roseangelo]

Using terms in the native language of the style is pretty standard in any martial arts practice. I take Tang Soo Do, which is a Korean style, so we use Korean commands in class.

[Candy Kappa]

Most of the terms they use seems genuine or at least sounds genuine, think I caught one that I remember from my Ju-Jitsu days. I think it was Seo Nage, mentioned in the Monkey Brains episode.

I believe they said the fighting styles are based on real ninjutsu that they have someone working with them to demonstrate.

That is weird, since Ninjutsu isn't a martial art.

[Shredded]

I believe they said the fighting styles are based on real ninjutsu that they have someone working with them to demonstrate.

They are probably working with the same people as they worked with when they developed the fighting styles for "Avatar the last airbender."

It being produced by the same studio and all.
In Avatar they litterately copied four different fight styles for the four different nations. Filmed people using this fight-style and some-times drew over them.

So well.. Nick all-ready did that trick ones. That they are doing it also with the ninja turtles seems very plausible, especially since this seems to be their new golden boy after Avatar.

To which I can only say one thing.... AWESOME!

Have any other media interpretation of the turtles ever before actually incorporated real nin-jutsu?

I guess the first two movies sort of did, but the people inside of the turtle costumes couldn't have been to able to actually use it... being in huge clunky costumes that destricts their movements and all of that.

And well, i will not take that away from this show, the fights looks awesome and are an absolute up-date from the 2k3 show.

Avatar seriously delivers the best animated battles I have ever seen, the movements were always so fluent, so cool, and by the season finales so big and awe inducing. And if this show is going in the same direction? omg, I want to see more battleing!

[BabyTurtles]

I'm loving the Japanese terms :3

I took several Japanese classes :D and they seem to be using it well

(as far as I can remember)

[Roseangelo]

I guess the first two movies sort of did, but the people inside of the turtle costumes couldn't have been to able to actually use it... being in huge clunky costumes that destricts their movements and all of that.

Pat Johnson, who did the fight choreography for the live action movies (look him up; he's done everything), studied Tang Soo Do under Chuck Norris.

The style they're using as reference isn't "ninjutsu," but a style that has a complicated name I don't recall offhand. I think they just simplify it by saying that they're using real ninjas. :p

[Zulithe]

a few times they've used words i'm not familiar with, which is great. It really gives it a strong feeling of authenticity. It would be kinda cool (and educational) if they'd subtitle them sometimes when appropriate, but I suppose it's not really necessary as the meaning of the words is usually implied somehow.

[Gyt Kaliba]

a few times they've used words i'm not familiar with, which is great. It really gives it a strong feeling of authenticity. It would be kinda cool (and educational) if they'd subtitle them sometimes when appropriate, but I suppose it's not really necessary as the meaning of the words is usually implied somehow.

That'd be something kinda nifty for them to include on the DVDs, a flyer or something with a listing of the Japanese terms used in said volume, and what they mean.

[Konchadunga]

I believe they said the fighting styles are based on real ninjutsu that they have someone working with them to demonstrate.

Also, that he took up ninjutsu a long time ago specifically because of the TMNT, which is awesome.

[Coola Yagami]

I like it. It makes the whole martial arts ninja training seem legit. And Splinter is Japanese so why wouldn't he use the real Japanese terms for the techniques he's using. I'm glad in this day and age people can finally use the real Japanese terms without people being worried the kids would be too dumb to understand. Like they did when they were first dubbing anime.

[Jephael]

I think the use of these terms gives the Nickelodeon series some very unique attributes not only when compared to the other two animated series, but to every other incarnation as well. We've never heard Splinter use that language in the movies or even Mirage comics.

[Teddy]

I love it! Makes the show feel a little more authentic. In regards to Splinter and his teachings anyway.

[Yorae]

I really like the use of Japanese terms. I had a fangirl moment when Leonardo said "Onegaishimasu" in the very first episode and loved the use of occasional Japanese in the show since. In my mind the Turtles' first language is Japanese, having been raised by Yoshi and all and their English came afterwards.

Keeping the Japanese names of the matrial arts moves keeps it authentic as mentioned before :)

[Powder]

I love it! Makes the show feel a little more authentic. In regards to Splinter and his teachings anyway.

I really like the use of Japanese terms. I had a fangirl moment when Leonardo said "Onegaishimasu" in the very first episode and loved the use of occasional Japanese in the show since. In my mind the Turtle's first language is Japanese, having been raised by Yoshi and all and their English came afterwards.

Keeping the Japanese names of the matrial arts moves keeps it authentic as mentioned before :)

Basically this & this! I'm definitely a fan.

[Jester]

That is weird, since Ninjutsu isn't a martial art.
Would you say it's more a warrior code, like Bushido?

[Konchadunga]

Some skeptics question whether Ninjutsu is even a thing.

[BabyTurtles]

Some skeptics question whether Ninjutsu is even a thing.

well I looked on my dictionary and it says:

ninjutsu |ninˈjoŏtsoō|
noun
the traditional Japanese technique of espionage, characterized by stealthy movement and camouflage. It was developed in feudal times for military purposes and subsequently used in the training of samurai.

[Candy Kappa]

Would you say it's more a warrior code, like Bushido?

No, Ninjutsu is the art is espionage, stealth and survival.

espionage and fighting is two different things. Ninjutsu and Bujutsu are not the same, it is like comparing race car driving to cake baking.

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[Pachira]

The "Ninjutsu" and "Ninja" are not always of justice.
They are similar to that spy.
They work for the purpose of murder and treason ...

I love this show:tgrin:
Turtles and Splinter speak Japanese that is very clear pronunciation.
They are use martial arts is look like a "Kendo", "Karate", "judo"
It is martial arts of Japan in ordinary.

[Berserker]

No, Ninjutsu is the art is espionage, stealth and survival.

espionage and fighting is two different things. Ninjutsu and Bujutsu are not the same, it is like comparing race car driving to cake baking.


Actually, ninjutsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togakure_ryu) is an interdisciplinary martial art that includes a wide variety of combat skills, survival skills, tactics of espionage, and spiritual hardiness.

The ninja turtles may over-emphasize the combative aspect of ninjutsu, that does not mean combat is not a part of it.

P.S. Antony Cummins is something of a hack job with very few actual qualifications. The guy can't even read Japanese and very few actual martial arts teachers take him seriously.

[BubblyShell22]

I love it as it makes the show more authentic. I also wish they'd subtitle a bit though. I've been dying to know what Leo said to Raph before they squared off in the first episode.

[Pachira]

Sorry, my English not good.
Ep14 Karai said "Miyamoto Musashi"
It was actual human. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi
He was "Kenjyutsu ka" It's a Swordsman mean.
Miyamoto Musashi Using two swords. Originator of the "Niten Ryu".
Leonardo also "Niten Ryu"!

And, Became a model of the "Usagi Yojimbo".

[Berserker]

Sorry, my English not good.
Ep14 Karai said "Miyamoto Musashi"
It was actual human. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi
He was "Kenjyutsu ka" It's a Swordsman mean.
Miyamoto Musashi Using two swords. Originator of the "Niten Ryu".
Leonardo also "Niten Ryu"!

And, Became a model of the "Usagi Yojimbo".

Cool facts!

[ToTheNines]

I love it as it makes the show more authentic. I also wish they'd subtitle a bit though. I've been dying to know what Leo said to Raph before they squared off in the first episode.

Onegai shimasu. It's basically a formal way of saying "please train with me".

[snake]

I love it as it makes the show more authentic. I also wish they'd subtitle a bit though. I've been dying to know what Leo said to Raph before they squared off in the first episode.

Yo, **** you dude, imma stick my kattanas up your nose!

[BubblyShell22]

Onegai shimasu. It's basically a formal way of saying "please train with me".

Ah, I see. I thought maybe it was some sort of smart retort like, "You're going down" or something like that.

[Pachira]

Onegai shimasu. It's basically a formal way of saying "please train with me".

Yes, I think this sensation.
When starting respectful to the other party.

:tgrin: so I speak Japanese, can answer the question

[Shredded]

Yes, I think this sensation.
When starting respectful to the other party.

:tgrin: so I speak Japanese, can answer the question

I'm sorry I am a little confused, is what you meant to say.

"Yes, I think this sentence, is what you say when being respectul to the other party."

?

I'm really curious now, what country are you from? are you asien yourself, if so that's really cool.

[Candy Kappa]

I'm sorry I am a little confused, is what you meant to say.

"Yes, I think this sentence, is what you say when being respectul to the other party."

?

I'm really curious now, what country are you from? are you asien yourself, if so that's really cool.

his location written right under his avatar might be a hint...

[Luzmagica]

The "Ninjutsu" and "Ninja" are not always of justice.
They are similar to that spy.
They work for the purpose of murder and treason ...

I love this show:tgrin:
Turtles and Splinter speak Japanese that is very clear pronunciation.
They are use martial arts is look like a "Kendo", "Karate", "judo"
It is martial arts of Japan in ordinary.

Sorry, my English not good.
Ep14 Karai said "Miyamoto Musashi"
It was actual human. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi
He was "Kenjyutsu ka" It's a Swordsman mean.
Miyamoto Musashi Using two swords. Originator of the "Niten Ryu".
Leonardo also "Niten Ryu"!

And, Became a model of the "Usagi Yojimbo".

Yes, I think this sensation.
When starting respectful to the other party.

:tgrin: so I speak Japanese, can answer the question

I'm sorry I am a little confused, is what you meant to say.

"Yes, I think this sentence, is what you say when being respectul to the other party."

?

I'm really curious now, what country are you from? are you asien yourself, if so that's really cool.

his location written right under his avatar might be a hint...

Yes!!! :thyper: Our member friend Pachira is from Japan!!!! :tgrin: :tcool:
The best info for this thread!!!

[Zulithe]

Sorry, my English not good.
Ep14 Karai said "Miyamoto Musashi"
It was actual human. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi
He was "Kenjyutsu ka" It's a Swordsman mean.
Miyamoto Musashi Using two swords. Originator of the "Niten Ryu".
Leonardo also "Niten Ryu"!

And, Became a model of the "Usagi Yojimbo".
Wow great info, thanks!
I seriously thought his name was Miyamoto as some kind of Nintendo reference :) But this is just as cool.

[Cipher]

I've really dug Splinter's casual use of "hajime" and "yame."

Honestly, after the debacle that was 4Kids' fifth season, I'm just happy to hear someone pronouncing and using Japanese words correctly.

Re: Earlier

"Onegai shimasu" fills the practical purpose of being an all-purposes statement of "please show me/let's show each other respect," used in various situations including first meetings. ("Yoroshiku onegai shimasu" is a common platitude during introductions, basically a request of "please treat me well.") It can also be used for polite requests. In the Turtles situation, it looks like it was used in a taunting manner, when normally they'd start a respectful fight with it.

Source: Japanese minor and study abroad. I'm sure Pachira can answer more though.

[Shark_Blade]

I'm wondering, is it only Leo and Splinter that are fluent in Japanese?

Raph, Mikey and Donnie never uttered a single word in that language before. Oh wait, Donnie did in Turtle Temper when insulting Raph with the bow and arrow.. something about mutto-mutto-guriante or something lol.

Hmm wonder about Raph. Or Mikey even, is he capable of learning that language?

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'm wondering, is it only Leo and Splinter that are fluent in Japanese?

Raph, Mikey and Donnie never uttered a single word in that language before. Oh wait, Donnie did in Turtle Temper when insulting Raph with the bow and arrow.. something about mutto-mutto-guriante or something lol.

Hmm wonder about Raph. Or Mikey even, is he capable of learning that language?

I'd imagine that they know at least a few words of it, but their lack of use of it so far is more of a personality thing I'd guess.

Splinter uses it the most obviously because, he was actually Japanese. Leo is the attentive leader (though less so than in a lot of incarnations I guess), so of course he'd have picked up on it the most. Donnie's the intellectual, so learning other languages would probably be fun to him.

Raph, on the other hand, probably wouldn't be too interested. He probably doesn't care what something's called, he just likes using it to beat up his opponent. And Mikey...well, yeah. Mikey's Mikey.:D