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Cowabungawolf89
04-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Remember the punk frogs from the 1987 cartoon?
Attila the Frog
Genghis Frog
Rasputin the Mad Frog
Napoleon BonaFrog

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I may be the only one but I loved these guys and I kinda wish that they give them a comeback.

CyberCubed
04-28-2013, 10:33 AM
Considering they were in like 7 episodes its obvious people remember them.

Cowabungawolf89
04-28-2013, 11:22 AM
Not everyone has seen the original cartoon and some people don't even remember them.

MikeandRaph87
04-28-2013, 11:25 AM
You are not the only one. They are my personal favorite allies and wish to see further use then a handful of original cartoon episodes and half made into figures. I'm not sure the best way to have them return but return is a must! They have potential and can serve as team B at times.Fun characters in need of furthur usage!

Cowabungawolf89
04-28-2013, 11:30 AM
You are not the only one. They are my personal favorite allies and wish to see further use then a handful of original cartoon episodes and half made into figures. I'm not sure the best way to have them return but return is a must! They have potential and can serve as team B at times.Fun characters in need of furthur usage!

I have some idea on how to include them in the new cartoon. Perhaps having four foot soldiers that Shredder didn't give a crap about and mutate them into frogs. Shredder pit them against the turtles and sometime in the show the frogs get tired of the Shredder harsh treatment and they jumped to the turtles side.

oldmanwinters
04-28-2013, 01:46 PM
I'll bet no one could identify each frog by name from memory alone. The FW show probably could have done a little more to give them distinctive looks other than each wearing multi-colored shirts.

CyberCubed
04-28-2013, 01:57 PM
I'll bet no one could identify each frog by name from memory alone. The FW shoe probably could have done a little more to give them distinctive looks other than each wearing multi-colored shirts.

To be honest I always figured Napoleon Bonafrog was the only good one. He starred in a few episodes solo and got the first toy.

Icebot
04-28-2013, 03:55 PM
The frogs were named after historical figures just like the turtles were. I know Napoleon Bonafrog was named after Napoleon Bonaparte and Genghis Frog was named after Genghis Kahn. I never knew who Rasputin or Atilla were named after though.

I love their southern accents.

DVD
04-28-2013, 04:14 PM
The Punk Frogs were cool. Great episode with Leatherhead.
Like the Turtles, unless you spent any time paying attention, you wouldn't know which was which. They did follow the Turtle toy concept of having different green shades. The tv Turtles were all the same color !!
It would be cool to have them back and introduced like this.

The shadows. Four darkened figures in the background, and the line, in a southern accent..
"no, they ain't, We are the Kung Fu Frogs", and the they come hoppin and choppin out if them there shadows :tgrin:

snake
04-28-2013, 04:21 PM
Strange Rasputin and Attila never got a toy. I wonder why?

DVD
04-28-2013, 04:25 PM
Maybe the Ghengis didn't sell. They went all out with him tho, changing his toon design and making him a cool figure.
They could have released a set of all four, using same mounds and did the color thing and painting their shirts differently... Hmmm, there's an idea. I could pick up a few spare Napoleons and custom them up!

snake
04-28-2013, 04:32 PM
Maybe the Ghengis didn't sell. They went all out with him tho, changing his toon design and making him a cool figure.
They could have released a set of all four, using same mounds and did the color thing and painting their shirts differently... Hmmm, there's an idea. I could pick up a few spare Napoleons and custom them up!

I'd love to see that! You should try it!

DonatelloNinja82
04-28-2013, 05:57 PM
Yep! I totally remember them! I always loved the episode where the left over mutagen in the water created a fountain of youth. I think it's "Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamps". The water made Mike hyper. One of my favorite scenes.

Ninjinister
04-28-2013, 06:06 PM
I thought you were going to say they're back in Pog form.

***First of Two Latin Kings***
04-28-2013, 06:47 PM
To be honest I always figured Napoleon Bonafrog was the only good one. He starred in a few episodes solo and got the first toy.

Oh, you're SO wrong. Genghis' toy came out in 1989 while the card backs still only had a few characters on them; Napoleon came out in 1990 after they started adding a second character to the card back.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Dz5lvT5iL.jpg

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com/covers/1d2/1d2243dc-3e1c-47e3-8988-5b84f0f25e06.jpg

I'd love to see that! You should try it!

This was already done many years ago, and the pictures are still out there somewhere I'm sure. In answer the question about why they weren't all produced as toys, at that point Playmates probably wanted a wider variety of non-turtle mutants and couldn't justify making four different frogs. Genghis and Napoleon look nothing alike as it is, with the exception of their clothing being somewhat similar. I did think it was cool that they put out Napoleon a year later, I guess Genghis was a test run and he sold really well. They must have sold a lot of Storage Shell Donatellos :tlol:

Powder
04-28-2013, 08:19 PM
No. Nobody on this TMNT forum, especially this section for talk of the old cartoon, remembers the punk frogs.

oldmanwinters
04-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Maybe the Ghengis didn't sell. They went all out with him tho, changing his toon design and making him a cool figure.
They could have released a set of all four, using same mounds and did the color thing and painting their shirts differently... Hmmm, there's an idea. I could pick up a few spare Napoleons and custom them up!

Seems like I saw a guy do some toon accurate Punk Frog repaints a while back. He did quite a few awesome TMNT figure customs, but unfortunately, I can't seem to find his website at the moment.

MikeandRaph87
04-28-2013, 08:44 PM
Seems like I saw a guy do some toon accurate Punk Frog repaints a while back. He did quite a few awesome TMNT figure customs, but unfortunately, I can't seem to find his website at the moment.

I saw them too some time ago and was able to locate it.Here is a link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478755@N08/7948302278/

Pretty good job and I too wish we had all four frogs. What was with the redesign with Napoleon? He looks nothing like his fellow frog!

Mondo_Gecko
04-28-2013, 10:19 PM
I loved the Punk Frogs and like many others were sad they did not receive figures for Attila and Rasputin. My collection always felt incomplete as a child.

I loved that there was a mirror image group similar to the turtles but amphibians.

I wish the Frogs got more play on the series, they never seem developed and were only seen as a team twice. There were so many opportunities for world building such as Where is their lair? What other enemies do they have? Do they have vehicles? I personally have loved a swamp boat.

I really hope the Punk Frogs reappear on the Nick version at some point.

CyberCubed
04-28-2013, 10:20 PM
I didn't really like the Frogs as a team but I understand they were created to be a foil to the TMNT.

If Nick ever brings them back, I hope its only Napoleon Bonafrog. He was really the only one that actually mattered.

MikeandRaph87
04-28-2013, 11:29 PM
I didn't really like the Frogs as a team but I understand they were created to be a foil to the TMNT.

If Nick ever brings them back, I hope its only Napoleon Bonafrog. He was really the only one that actually mattered.

Napoleon is the only one who mattered? How do you figure that? He and Genhis both appeared a little more than Atilia and Rasputin but Napoleon is no greater than any of them.Genhis,the leader stood out a little more to me between the two more common of the four still not one mattered more than the others just like not one spefici turtle is more important than the others.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 12:12 AM
I want all four to come back, its not fun if just only one or two appear

TheBlueTurtle1
04-29-2013, 12:19 AM
I would love to see them have a come back in the new 2012 show. They were/are awesome.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 12:20 AM
and hopefully a more serious role this time

Candy Kappa
04-29-2013, 01:05 AM
Nope, never heard of them. Are they some kind of a accidental mutants that was trained by Shredder and convinced that the Turtles was the bad guy?


They where named after real life persons:

Attila the Hun
Genghis Kahn
Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin
Napoleon Bonaparte

That someone don't know who these guys are hurts a little.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 01:19 AM
Well that's great you remember but not everyone knows who they are

Powder
04-29-2013, 02:46 AM
On this board, they do.

Candy Kappa
04-29-2013, 03:55 AM
yeah, most people on this boards knows of the Punk Frogs one way or the other.

If you wanted a thread dedicated to the Frogs, you should have named it a little better then the pompous "Hey, kiddies. Remember this?" Especially since after a quick search, i don't think the Punk Frogs have their own thread that isn't about finding the VHS with Invasion of the Punk Frogs on.

DVD
04-29-2013, 04:14 AM
It did get folks remembering them..
Mind you, I got my Ghengis and Napolion mixed up. It was Ghengis who was screen accurate, kinda, and Napolion who came later on. Doh! Gotta lay off that moonshine from there swamps!
Anyway. Yeah, they are a cool bunch, and I looked at the customs and I like them.
It is funny tho, how they totally retooled for Napolion when they could have just put him out in a different color of green. Instead we get a real mean looking frog creature.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 08:17 AM
Hopefully they'll make a comeback but i guess that's up to fans

***First of Two Latin Kings***
04-29-2013, 08:27 AM
Napoleon was the only one who "mattered" in the sense of getting screen time, but that was probably done to sell his toy. Genghis had to have sold well or we never would have gotten Napoleon.

ctt4lfecw
04-29-2013, 10:26 AM
Aw man they were cool. They should bring them back. I don't get why Napoleon's toy looked like he did.

Mondo_Gecko
04-29-2013, 10:46 AM
If Nick ever brings them back, I hope its only Napoleon Bonafrog. He was really the only one that actually mattered.

You know, just because YOU only liked one of the frogs doesn't mean the rest didn't matter or that everyone shares your views.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 02:18 PM
You know, just because YOU only liked one of the frogs doesn't mean the rest didn't matter or that everyone shares your views.

Plus that he was the only one who mattered? That doesn't make any sense considering he was left out of the obscure OVA episodes

gobo
04-29-2013, 05:33 PM
Weren't there only two personalities among them? Aside from their weapons, I couldn't tell Napoleon & Rasputin or Ghengis & Attilla apart. The first pair were the sensible frogs, while the others were just hillbillies.

pannoni1
04-29-2013, 08:54 PM
Honestly, I never really remembered them until I got back into the fandom a few years ago and sort of slept through them back when the series was current. That said, its nice that the show itself produced its own "spinoff" before Biker Mice/Battletoads came along, and while they don't have quite the distinguished qualities of the four, its still easy to form a companion for each. They were nice comedic filler, but only in the first episode in which Splinter convinces that the Turtles are heroes by ending a fight in the sewers along with being good friends in the Leatherhead episode provides good fullfilment among them.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza
04-29-2013, 09:44 PM
Maybe the Ghengis didn't sell. They went all out with him tho, changing his toon design and making him a cool figure.
They could have released a set of all four, using same mounds and did the color thing and painting their shirts differently... Hmmm, there's an idea. I could pick up a few spare Napoleons and custom them up!

Do it! That would be awesome and I have seen your customs so I know they would turn out great.
I would consider giving them various frog species, like a bullfrog of Genghis and so on.

The FW shoe probably could have done a little more to give them distinctive looks other than each wearing multi-colored shirts.
Weren't there only two personalities among them? Aside from their weapons, I couldn't tell Napoleon & Rasputin or Ghengis & Attilla apart. The first pair were the sensible frogs, while the others were just hillbillies.

The difference between the Frogs and Turtles were that the Turtles each had a distinctive personality and color and weapon.
The Frogs had different tropical shirts and weapons however they lacked the personality. They could have benefited from some individualism however, let's not forget, the cartoons largely serve to sell toys. Playmates wanted another group of 4 amphibian mutants and the FW crew came up with these guys (I have no idea if this is really how it happened). It's not like the Frogs were one-shot characters that appeared and then were gone. They reappeared several times! But, sadly, the writers never really moved them from cookie-cutter form.
Maybe it was too hard to come up with different personalities without them coming off as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Frogs?
Maybe instead of pizza they could have loved gumbo? I dont know... lol But I think a lot could have been done.

Cowabungawolf89
04-29-2013, 11:01 PM
Maybe they'll get a kung fu style since Spider bites kept calling the turtles Kung Fu frogs

miru
04-30-2013, 08:35 AM
I think the Mutanimals should have had Napoleon and Genghis instead if Jagwar and Dreadmon.

oldmanwinters
04-30-2013, 03:48 PM
I saw them too some time ago and was able to locate it.Here is a link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478755@N08/7948302278/

Pretty good job and I too wish we had all four frogs. What was with the redesign with Napoleon? He looks nothing like his fellow frog!

Aw, sweet! I remember that guy used to have a fully dedicated site for his work but maybe he's shut it down? Too bad if that's the case.

Jester
04-30-2013, 04:20 PM
Remember the Punk Frogs?
The who???

zkarlette
04-30-2013, 04:55 PM
I remember frogs but they didn't look like punks.

MikeandRaph87
04-30-2013, 07:38 PM
Aw, sweet! I remember that guy used to have a fully dedicated site for his work but maybe he's shut it down? Too bad if that's the case.

I tried to e-track him after I saw the picture. I assumed he had. Also,anyone who has searched for the Punk Frogs has sure to have stumbled upon this great drawing of the group.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/132/1/e/The_Punk_Frogs_by_MikeBock.jpg

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza
04-30-2013, 08:03 PM
I have always been very curious what the other Frogs were supposed to look like...
Bonafrog's toy is drastically different from how he looked in the cartoon, which was a palette swap like the Turtles were for each other.
I'm wondering if there were any prototypes or confirmation as to what the other frogs should have been if they were to continue to individualize them as they seemed to be.

oldmanwinters
04-30-2013, 08:04 PM
I tried to e-track him after I saw the picture. I assumed he had. Also,anyone who has searched for the Punk Frogs has sure to have stumbled upon this great drawing of the group.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/132/1/e/The_Punk_Frogs_by_MikeBock.jpg

Yeah, that's a piece by the legendary (in my mind anyway) Mike Bock!
http://mikebock.deviantart.com/gallery/11074444

He's got a Drome account, but I don't think he's posted anything in a while.

Cowabungawolf89
04-30-2013, 08:52 PM
His drawings did them justice :)