Shredder Cast? Sounds like Col. Schrader

[NinjaPug]

‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles’ Adds William Fichtner

By DOMINIC PATTEN | Thursday May 9, 2013 @ 4:39pm PDT

EXCLUSIVE: He’s not playing a turtle in Paramount’s reboot of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but William Fichtner is on board for the movie. Details on the actor’s role are sketchy, but Fichtner is said to be playing a lead with iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology. A lead in last year’s Nat Geo TV movie Seal Team Six: The Raid On Osama Bin Laden, Fichtner was a semi-regular on the last two seasons of HBO’s Entourage and also appeared on The West Wing as well as in 2008′s The Dark Knight. Turtles is the third blockbuster in a row* the actor has coming up now joining his villainous Butch Cavendish in Disney’s The Lone Ranger*with Johnny Depp and his appearance in the Neil Blomkamp-directed Elysium alongside Matt Damon. Both those movies are coming out this summer, while Turtles is being released on June 6, 2014. As for the Turtles themselves, as Deadline’s Mike Fleming Jr revealed in March, Hunger Games: Catching Fire’s Alan Ritchson will play Raphael in the Jonathan Liebesman-directed*movie, Pete Ploszek*will play Leonardo,*Jeremy Howard*will play Donatello, and*Noel Fisher*will play Michelangelo. Megan Fox is set to play the lead female role in the movie that her Transformers director Michael Bay is producing. Fichtner is repped by Intellectual Artists Management.

[Slap-Happy]

Someone change this title.

[1984TMNT]

Interesting....dude is a good actor, so we'll see what they do with him. Praying this isn't linked to "schrader". I wouldn't see him as a good fit for that or an actual "Shredder", so I dunno.

[Slap-Happy]

I'll be honest, Schrader is one of the lesser problems I had with that script.

[Powder]

He'd certainly be a good Rat King...

Once again, casting choices made hear in response a resounding "Huh?" from the collective fanbase.

[Azrael Macool]

Well, I'm still being optimistic. I really like this guy... I don't want him to be Colonel Schrader, but, we don't even know his part yet.

[leolao]

he could be Baxter Stockman, Rat King or April's Boss

[chrisdude]

Schrader makes sense with the Foot we have. I'm down.

[1984TMNT]

I could easily see him as a Baxter Stockman type, though, I'm sort of hoping that character isn't in this movie....

[poprob]

I'm betting on him being an Utrom/Kraang in human form.

Giancarlo Esposito from Breaking Bad/Revolution is the ONLY logical choice for someone to play Baxter. I'd absolutely love to see him in that role down the line.

[zak_the_neutrino]

If its not shredder then what other iconic character to the turtles lore can it be? It's gotta be shred head.

[MikeandRaph87]

Colonel Schrader? Who might that be? Some made up character for this movie I had not heard reported yet you all are talking about?

[CyberCubed]

Burne Thompson maybe?

[NinjaPug]

Burne Thompson maybe?

The article says he's playing a lead. Hopefully Burne isn't a lead.

[CyberCubed]

The article says he's playing a lead. Hopefully Burne isn't a lead.

They called Vernon a lead too.

[Bob]

And we have our Colonel Schrader. I just hope they've changed his name or at least make it clear enough that he's not a substitute for Shredder so we can then get a proper version of him in a sequel.

[NinjaMan]

Hmm wonder how they will tie him and Splinter's history together?

[CyberCubed]

He doesn't strike me as main villain material.

[chrisdude]

If Deadline's source is correct, and he's playing "a lead with iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology," that makes for a pretty short list of possibilities. Doesn't necessarily mean villain, though. But i think he'd be a good fit for Schrader.

If he's Schrader, he doesn't need to be tied to Spliter's story. Because he's not Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

If he's Schrader, he doesn't need to be tied to Spliter's story. Because he's not Shredder.

Why give him such a similar name and have him command the Foot though if they intended to use Shredder?

Saving the main villain for a sequel that's at least 3 years away from this one doesn't sound like a smart idea. By that point the Nick cartoon could be in its waning phase.

[chrisdude]

Why give him such a similar name and have him command the Foot though if they intended to use Shredder?

Saving the main villain for a sequel that's at least 3 years away from this one doesn't sound like a smart idea. By that point the Nick cartoon could be in its waning phase.I'm not assuming they plan to ever use "Shredder."

I just mean, they may use Shredder as a base, and make big changes. If they don't name the character Shredder, I'm not going to have Shredder expectations of him or his story. Because he's literally not Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

Which makes no sense as to why they're going to blatantly change the Turtles most important and iconic villain into an entirely different character.

[chrisdude]

Which makes no sense as to why they're going to blatantly change the Turtles most important and iconic villain into an entirely different character.Because if they created an entirely new villain, everyone would still be pissed? At least if this guy's name kinda sounds like Shredder, and has blades, it's like a nod to Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

Because if they created an entirely new villain, everyone would still be pissed? At least if this guy's name kinda sounds like Shredder, and has blades, it's like a nod to Shredder.

In which case begs the question, why not just use Shredder? I just don't understand their reasoning.

And if we eventually see Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady....it makes even less sense why Shredder is changed to a white caucasion general.

[NinjaPug]

They called Vernon a lead too.

I went back and looked at the original Hollywood Reporter story and they just said his role was a secret. Nothing about it being a lead role.

[chrisdude]

In which case begs the question, why not just use Shredder? I just don't understand their reasoning.

And if we eventually see Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady....it makes even less sense why Shredder is changed to a white caucasion general.The only explanation that occurs to me is if they want to drop the whole ninja aspect the Foot. If that's the plan, it's better that they don't name the guy Shredder, isn't it? And people totally would be upset if it looked like the Shredder was left out. So, split the difference. Give Shredder a nod.

But I don't know. I'm only guessing Schrader because we know Schrader was part of the old plan, the Foot look kind of militaristic, and this guy's supposed to be playing "a lead of iconic stature." That make Schrader my best guess.

I went back and looked at the original Hollywood Reporter story and they just said his role was a secret. Nothing about it being a lead role.
First line of the article, dude.

"Will Arnett has joined Megan Fox as one of the leads in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-arnett-joining-megan-fox-432515

[Galactus]

Because if they created an entirely new villain, everyone would still be pissed? At least if this guy's name kinda sounds like Shredder, and has blades, it's like a nod to Shredder.

Schrader is an entirely new villain. Military colonel, secretly a yellow skinned alien that grows spikes. There's no TMNT character that is remotely similar too. The fact that he's supposed to be a nod to Shredder rubs salt in the wound...why not, oh I dunno....use Shredder?

What was the biggest complaints from casual fans about the last two movies? Answer; no Shredder. Now potentialy we've got no Shredder and the fact that Schraders existence means that we likely wont getting the real Shredder down the line.

I don't personaly believe Shredder is intrinsic to making a good TMNT movie but a lot of people do think that partly due to there being no "good" TMNT movies without him. I do think that Shredder is a vital part of the TMNT story so the possibility that he wont exist at all in this movie series is rather shocking.

[Welmanshire]

And we have our Colonel Schrader. I just hope they've changed his name or at least make it clear enough that he's not a substitute for Shredder so we can then get a proper version of him in a sequel.

Actually, exactly the opposite. How on earth is Schradar an "iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology""?This pretty much confirms that he WON'T be playing Schradar. Get yourself together and think people.

[chrisdude]

Schrader is an entirely new villain. Military colonel, secretly a yellow skinned alien that grows spikes. There's no TMNT character that is remotely similar too. The fact that he's supposed to be a nod to Shredder rubs salt in the wound...why not, oh I dunno....use Shredder?

What was the biggest complaints from casual fans about the last two movies? Answer; no Shredder. Now potentialy we've got no Shredder and the fact that Schraders existence means that we likely wont getting the real Shredder down the line.

I don't personaly believe Shredder is intrinsic to making a good TMNT movie but a lot of people do think that partly due to there being no "good" TMNT movies without him. I do think that Shredder is a vital part of the TMNT story so the possibility that he wont exist at all in this movie series is rather shocking.I didn't say you'd like it... I'm just trying to piece together how this guy could be playing an iconic character.

We know we have the Foot. We know they look kind of militaristic. And we know this guy's supposed to play an iconic character from TMNT lore. Maybe it's Schrader. Maybe it's Shredder. Maybe it's the neighborly barkeeper, Casey Jones. My guess is Schrader. Somehow I ended up defending my guess, as if I wrote the movie.

[Galactus]

Actually, exactly the opposite. How on earth is Schradar an "iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology""?This pretty much confirms that he WON'T be playing Schradar. Get yourself together and think people.

Because in the minds of people making this movie Schrader is (or was) Shredder. Simply a new version of the character.

The fact that Schrader is so radicaly different that fans would never accept it as the same character doesn't alter the fact that to their minds when originaly writing the script it was Shredder.

[Welmanshire]

Because in the minds of people making this movie Schrader is (or was) Shredder. Simply a new version of the character.

The fact that Schrader is so radicaly different that fans would never accept it as the same character doesn't alter the fact that to their minds when originaly writing the script it was Shredder.

I don't think they would be using terminology like "iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology" if the character was to be renamed and changed. It really points to a character that is already existent, like Baxter or with the military side of things going on, I am thinking it could be a character similar to John Bishop.

[Jester]

Also, wasn't Will Arnett's character supposed to be a big deal and then then turned out to be Vernon? The word "iconic" must be taken with an entire Morton's factory, my friends.

[chrisdude]

Honestly, I think it's a stretch to call any TMNT villain 'iconic,' other than Shredder, Stockman or Krang.

But I think we'd be giving these guys a little too much credit to think they'd dig up Bishop. And so many people wouldn't know who he was. Like me ;)

Also, wasn't Will Arnett's character supposed to be a big deal and then then turned out to be Vernon? The word "iconic" must be taken with an entire Morton's factory, my friends.They just said 'lead.' And that may very well be the case.

[Galactus]

I don't think they would be using terminology like "iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology" if the character was to be renamed and changed. It really points to a character that is already existent, like Baxter or with the military side of things going on, I am thinking it could be a character similar to John Bishop.

My point to them Schrader is/was Shredder and that is definitely an iconic character.

As much as I really like Bishop and he became a fan favourite he's not really iconic. As Chrisdude said no villain other than Shredder could really be considered iconic.

The only other character I can think of that would be described (at a push) as iconic and that might fit the actor is a white Baxter Stockman.

Also, wasn't Will Arnett's character supposed to be a big deal and then then turned out to be Vernon? The word "iconic" must be taken with an entire Morton's factory, my friends.

I'm pretty sure Vernon will be a lead character in this movie. I'd go as far to say it looks like he's Casey's replacement.

[Shark_Blade]

Schrader doesn't even make sense. Why can't they just use the name Shredder? :roll:

[Galactus]

Schrader doesn't even make sense. Why can't they just use the name Shredder? :roll:

They very well might do.

They could make it his codename or have the turtles nickname him "Shredder" but that still wouldn't really make the character Shredder.

[ctt4lfecw]

*Fingers crossed for Rat King.* I really like this dude, ever since Dark Knight. And I love Entourage. Or maybe this is our Casey?

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

*SIGH*

Aaaaand here we go with the wild speculation again. We went through this with Vernon's actor, and here we go again. :roll:

SHREDDER WILL PROBABLY BE IN THIS MOVIE AS SHREDDER!

My money's on Brune for this guy.

[Raven]

Also, wasn't Will Arnett's character supposed to be a big deal and then then turned out to be Vernon? The word "iconic" must be taken with an entire Morton's factory, my friends.

Exactly, until we see photos or the trailer theres no need to get all frazzeled over something we have no concrete facts for.

[Slade]

*SIGH*

Aaaaand here we go with the wild speculation again. We went through this with Vernon's actor, and here we go again. :roll:

SHREDDER WILL PROBABLY BE IN THIS MOVIE AS SHREDDER!

My money's on Brune for this guy.

I'm with you!


Otherwise, I need to stay away from movie talk on here, the Schrader b.s. is depressing.

[NinjaMan]

*Fingers crossed for Rat King.* I really like this dude, ever since Dark Knight. And I love Entourage. Or maybe this is our Casey?

Hmm.. I kind of want Casey for a sequel. Seems like it'd be jamming too much into the first movie IMO.

[chrisdude]

*SIGH*

Aaaaand here we go with the wild speculation again. We went through this with Vernon's actor, and here we go again. :roll:

SHREDDER WILL PROBABLY BE IN THIS MOVIE AS SHREDDER!

My money's on Brune for this guy.Hey, what else are we supposed to do here?

And, uh, 'Brune?'

[ctt4lfecw]

Hmm.. I kind of want Casey for a sequel. Seems like it'd be jamming too much into the first movie IMO.

Fichtner has a strong resemblance to Casey from FW. I mean if you put the hockey mask on him, it's Casey dude.

[Galactus]

*SIGH*

Aaaaand here we go with the wild speculation again. We went through this with Vernon's actor, and here we go again. :roll:

SHREDDER WILL PROBABLY BE IN THIS MOVIE AS SHREDDER!

As in Oroku Saki leader of the ninja based criminal organization the Foot Clan?

That is looking very unlikely. The current photos of the turtles being led away as captives supports the leaked scripts idea that the Foot Ninja arn't just wearing military-esque garb but they are an actual military unit which supports something more akin to the Schrader concept.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I'm with you!


Otherwise, I need to stay away from movie talk on here, the Schrader b.s. is depressing.


Thanks. And heck, even I could come up with a scenario, based on the old script, that blended the OT and the baytastic military ideas;

Fifteen years ago in Japan, Saki and Yoshi are in the foot clan together. Both are in line to be the next clan jonin. Saki is willing to go to underhanded means to take over the clan.

-A mysterious being from another 'place' makes contact with Saki, and promises to help him gain leadership of the foot, and supply him with advanced technology in return for helping him gain accsess to this world.

- Yoshi is somehow disgraced and driven out of the clan, and Saki tracks him to new York. Using the mutagen given to him by his benafactor, Shredder turns Yoshi and his four pet turtles into 'monsters', and leaves his adversary to suffer a miserable existance in the sewers of New York, never thinking, in his arrogance, his descision could come back to bite him in the rear.

-Over the Next fifteen Years, Saki rebuilds the foot from a traditional ninja clan to a modern militaristic mercenary organization, using the tech provided through the portal from his benefactor. Mutant enforcers such as Rocksteady and Bebop are created via the mutagen, and steps are taken to prepare for his benafactor's arrival in new york.

-Splinter, after raising and training the turles, sends them out on thier first mission against the foot, and are captured. Cue events in the leaked script, minus the alien angle.

[ctt4lfecw]

As time goes on, they keep on adding actors. I think we have yet to see who will be the villain.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Another thought; has anyone thought that these foot ninja might be doing what ninjas do and, you know, be disguised as military soldiers to cover thier holding the turtles prisioner?

[Galactus]

They are trying to pass off as standard military with weird masks and Japanese badges?

Who'd they be trying to fool? The turtles? The public? This also brings up another concern about this movie that the turtles will be public knowledge.

We know they are using a version of that script. We can see they've changed some things but it certainly looks like that version of the Foot survived. Explanations to rationalise how they could still be regular Foot seem a bit reaching at this point.

[Andrew NDB]

Actually, exactly the opposite. How on earth is Schradar an "iconic stature in the Turtles’ mythology""?This pretty much confirms that he WON'T be playing Schradar. Get yourself together and think people.

But Colonel Shrader becomes the Shredder in the leaked script.

[Welmanshire]

But Colonel Shrader becomes the Shredder in the leaked script.

He doesn't ever get referenced to as "Shredder", surely? The core of his character is so far from Shredders origins it's not funny.

[Andrew NDB]

He doesn't ever get referenced to as "Shredder", surely?

He does, actually. When Shrader reveals that he, too, is an alien from Dimension X that grows spikes and blades, the Turtles remark in the script, "Dude, he's not Shrader... he's SHREDDER!" And I'm pretty sure it sticks beyond that point.

We can fully brace ourselves for a unholy mess of intergalactic proportions at this point.

[Jester]

He doesn't ever get referenced to as "Shredder", surely? The core of his character is so far from Shredders origins it's not funny.

Yes, that's true....BUT!!! in the movie universe (dispute how stupid it is and how much of a middle finger it is to fans) he IS THE FREAKIN' SHREDDER!!!!

This VERSION may not be iconic, but the character he's a perversion of is.

Hence, logic!

[Azrael Macool]

Well, the Foot are obviously supposed to be at least somewhat Japanese in this. I think the kanji is enough to prove this. And maybe the masks too; I'm still not totally sure what theyre about; some people have speculated that they might digitally alter their masks to make it look like they've got a bunch of Japanese people, though I think its more likely they're just supposed to be like, samurai madmen but of course, we don't know that for sure. I'm guessing the Foot will be like the evil ninja in the movie The Three Ninjas, ninja but also like, a paramilitary organization. I don't think them handcuffing the turtles is proof of anything. Of course, I might be wrong. But that's the point; we might all be wrong. We don't know.

[Andrew NDB]

Well, the Foot are obviously supposed to be at least somewhat Japanese in this.

I'm pretty sure, yeah. That's probably one of the practical reasons behind the masks... they can cast whatever martial arts-trained Whiteys they want as Foot Soldiers as their faces will be obscured. There will probably be a few Foot that either don't wear masks or get their masks knocked off... for those they will probably either cast Japanese or Asian-that-can-roughly-pass-for-Japanese.

[Crabfight]

Everything that has been complained about the old script SEEMS to have been removed so far, so I'd say it's entirely possible this Schrader character doesn't exist anymore. That being said, the word iconic does seem to point to Shredder more than anyone else, and I'm a bit nervous about what a white actor potentially being cast as Shredder implies.

Man guessing with this movie has been hard. I do have a question though:

Has it actually been announced by anyone official that the military soldiers were foot soldiers? This feels like a dumb question to ask, but all I remember are comments like "First photos of the foot!" made by outside reporters and members of this forum. Were those corroborated by people working on the movie?

[ctt4lfecw]

Everything that has been complained about the old script SEEMS to have been removed so far, so I'd say it's entirely possible this Schrader character doesn't exist anymore. That being said, the word iconic does seem to point to Shredder more than anyone else, and I'm a bit nervous about what a white actor potentially being cast as Shredder implies.

Man guessing with this movie has been hard. I do have a question though:

Has it actually been announced by anyone official that the military soldiers were foot soldiers? This feels like a dumb question to ask, but all I remember are comments like "First photos of the foot!" made by outside reporters and members of this forum. Were those corroborated by people working on the movie?

I hope Schrader is never seen or heard from again.

[chrisdude]

Everything that has been complained about the old script SEEMS to have been removed so far, so I'd say it's entirely possible this Schrader character doesn't exist anymore. That being said, the word iconic does seem to point to Shredder more than anyone else, and I'm a bit nervous about what a white actor potentially being cast as Shredder implies.

Man guessing with this movie has been hard. I do have a question though:

Has it actually been announced by anyone official that the military soldiers were foot soldiers? This feels like a dumb question to ask, but all I remember are comments like "First photos of the foot!" made by outside reporters and members of this forum. Were those corroborated by people working on the movie?no. The just have kanji looking stuff written on their suits.

[CyberCubed]

I can't get over why they would be willingly interesting in ruining Shredder's character. It's idiotic.

[Sanjuro]

Wait, so my thread gets trashed and the others stay up?

Same logic around here I see.

[Olmosa]

He'll be Baxter Stockman.

[CyberCubed]

He'll be Baxter Stockman.

I wouldn't mind "white" Baxter Stockman returning, but Will Arnett is just too tall.

[zodiac brave]

I wouldn't mind "white" Baxter Stockman returning, but Will Arnett is just too tall.

well, a) we know who arnett's playing already so...yeah. there's that.

and b) too tall?? *facepalm* you have the imagination and creativity of a cow.

:roll:

i bet this guy plays shrader. even if they nixed the name "shrader" and just call him "shredder", at this point it's col. shrader.

[samxsteal]

*SIGH*

Aaaaand here we go with the wild speculation again. We went through this with Vernon's actor, and here we go again. :roll:

SHREDDER WILL PROBABLY BE IN THIS MOVIE AS SHREDDER!

My money's on Brune for this guy.
I seriously Agree i find it super Funny Everyone is so stuck on the Whole leaked Script We have so many people working on this movie say that there not using the leaked script, Actor Saying they have change this. the guy who plays raph even has Said he is almost frustrated about what fans are saying there plenty of evidence that this isn't even close to the leaked script. Venon wasn't in the leaked script, MB say they changed it the Co Creator of TMNT say it not what fans are thinking and is asking for support.

And yet all you Guys keep expressing that "THIS IS SCHEDER" seriously guys. an if im wrong fine no harm no foul. I'll still see it and judge for myself.

I'm with you!


Otherwise, I need to stay away from movie talk on here, the Schrader b.s. is depressing.
Seriously.


Also as for the Foot look Closely
#1 they have Japanese written right on the shoulders
#2 the masks are vaguely Japanese stereo typical Notice the look similar to Kabuki masks
#3 None Has gun other then a side arm EDIT: notice one Photo With Foot members holding rifles But in the back ground there is also Member wearing........Swords, throwing knives, stun batons . Modern Military do not use swords, Do any of you remember the fact that the Original Show the foot use gun?? and have you seen the gun they do have? not normal military issue either. just saying


This look like a fine set of Modern Ninja Honestly look at any Modern Ninja move NONE wear just the traditional Gi. Examples Batman armored and definitely not the traditional Gi, GI Joe, Ninja, Ninja Assassin, Arrow. While the traditional Gi is an Aspect in all the film if never what the main Ninja wear they wear update Armored clothing.


then there the aspect of the turtle being Captured like this is the first time they have every been chained up and captured ever before??? NO

[Andrew NDB]

I wouldn't mind "white" Baxter Stockman returning, but Will Arnett is just too tall.

And in a cast with no black people, it'd seem a little strange to go ahead and whitewash a black character.

[Leo656]

Well, it IS going for an OT vibe... I haven't watched the series in its entirety for a while, but I don't think I saw more than 5 black people in the entire show's run, including Carter... Maybe they're doing it on purpose. :P

[CyberCubed]

well, a) we know who arnett's playing already so...yeah. there's that.


What the hell? They didn't confirm who Arnett is playing at all, so stop acting like we do.

[Colonel Schrader]

What the hell? They didn't confirm who Arnett is playing at all, so stop acting like we do.

He is vernon, everyone knows that.. Its on his ID Card.

[chrisdude]

Plus pics of him acting as April's cameraman.

[Galactus]

I seriously Agree i find it super Funny Everyone is so stuck on the Whole leaked Script We have so many people working on this movie say that there not using the leaked script, Actor Saying they have change this. the guy who plays raph even has Said he is almost frustrated about what fans are saying there plenty of evidence that this isn't even close to the leaked script. Venon wasn't in the leaked script, MB say they changed it the Co Creator of TMNT say it not what fans are thinking and is asking for support.

And yet all you Guys keep expressing that "THIS IS SCHEDER" seriously guys. an if im wrong fine no harm no foul. I'll still see it and judge for myself.


Seriously.

No one has ever said they have ditched that script. We've gotten deflection on the issue from the people involved. The same kind we got from everyone involved on the alien issue which turned out to be 100% accurate to what we thought.

Sure there's differences from what was in that leaked script but that doesn't necessarily mean its been ditched merely that its been rewritten to some degree. There's evidence that its still the same script from shooting locations, to military-esque Foot to the turtles being captives of said military Foot.

[samxsteal]

No one has ever said they have ditched that script. We've gotten deflection on the issue from the people involved. The same kind we got from everyone involved on the alien issue which turned out to be 100% accurate to what we thought.
yes they have Michael Said a while ago the script that was leaked was not the script they're using. Even the Co Creator was stated that there not using the script and thing have Changed "quite a bit" since that script. As for the aliens thing what Was the whole thing about Michael Bay say they weren't with in the last week and that they were mutated and only that the ooze was alien in nature which it is in all the Turtle Universes. and is in fact not 100% what every one thought and was freaking out about

Sure there's differences from what was in that leaked script but that doesn't necessarily mean its been ditched merely that its been rewritten to some degree. There's evidence that its still the same script from shooting locations, to military-esque Foot to the turtles being captives of said military Foot.
There are so many difference plus the Fact that Bay has said, and the Co creator, and the actor, and plenty of other people working on the movie. So i dont get this disillusion that they have to be keeping the script. yes I understand that that script was you greatest fear and you do not want to see it and the fact that they even thought it might work is scared into your brains but that was a Very old draft of a script. and most scripts Change pretty drastically.The Fact that they have said the Have changed it, they changed the title, the changed the Alien turtles, and many other thing leads me to believe that there fixing thing rather then just butchering it.

Vernon Nor Erma where in the leaked script nor were they even referenced to.The older script had next to no ties to the Original show and yet We get plenty of character from the show. And yet people still Freak out about the old script seriously people get over it. Its Changed.

[CyberCubed]

The Foot are military though. And who else would Will Arnett play?

[TurtleTitan97]

And who else would Will Arnett play?

Um, Vernon Fenwick...

http://i.imgur.com/D8y8ehI.jpg

[zodiac brave]

The Foot are military though. And who else would Will Arnett play?

wow. he's wearing a badge with the name VERNON FENWICK on it.

HE'S. PLAYING. VERNON.

:teek:

[marcelangelo]

yes they have Michael Said a while ago the script that was leaked was not the script they're using. Even the Co Creator was stated that there not using the script and thing have Changed "quite a bit" since that script. As for the aliens thing what Was the whole thing about Michael Bay say they weren't with in the last week and that they were mutated and only that the ooze was alien in nature which it is in all the Turtle Universes. and is in fact not 100% what every one thought and was freaking out about


There are so many difference plus the Fact that Bay has said, and the Co creator, and the actor, and plenty of other people working on the movie. So i dont get this disillusion that they have to be keeping the script. yes I understand that that script was you greatest fear and you do not want to see it and the fact that they even thought it might work is scared into your brains but that was a Very old draft of a script. and most scripts Change pretty drastically.The Fact that they have said the Have changed it, they changed the title, the changed the Alien turtles, and many other thing leads me to believe that there fixing thing rather then just butchering it.

Vernon Nor Erma where in the leaked script nor were they even referenced to.The older script had next to no ties to the Original show and yet We get plenty of character from the show. And yet people still Freak out about the old script seriously people get over it. Its Changed.

oh forget it dude, these worriewarts dont WANT to be any happier..everything you said in the last few posts exactly matches my points of view and I silently am waiting for the moment that people here will realize that this script is not the script for this film..I have read and heard the evidence you named in your posts myself and talked with friends about it, too...in fact I think there are more poeple wout there who get that this old silly **** has nothing to with the production on this movie...but it seems the fanbase here doesnt want to read that...they stay persuaded on their believes and want to be proven wrong...until that day they love bitching about this or that thing....its sad but you are going to knock your head by trying to speak some reason here;)....

[Galactus]

yes they have Michael Said a while ago the script that was leaked was not the script they're using. Even the Co Creator was stated that there not using the script and thing have Changed "quite a bit" since that script. As for the aliens thing what Was the whole thing about Michael Bay say they weren't with in the last week and that they were mutated and only that the ooze was alien in nature which it is in all the Turtle Universes. and is in fact not 100% what every one thought and was freaking out about

Bay said that script was the real deal but from before he and Platinum Dunes became involved. That of course seems to be flubbing the truth because the date on the script is after Bay became involved.

The idea that Bay would say that the turtles are aliens and not to be a reference to that script is ridiculous but Bay say has recently stated that they were never meant to be aliens and that it was supposed to be the ooze. Whichever way you try to spin that it's a lie. If script was real then they were going to be aliens at one point.

There are so many difference plus the Fact that Bay has said, and the Co creator, and the actor, and plenty of other people working on the movie. So i dont get this disillusion that they have to be keeping the script. yes I understand that that script was you greatest fear and you do not want to see it and the fact that they even thought it might work is scared into your brains but that was a Very old draft of a script. and most scripts Change pretty drastically.The Fact that they have said the Have changed it, they changed the title, the changed the Alien turtles, and many other thing leads me to believe that there fixing thing rather then just butchering it.

Vernon Nor Erma where in the leaked script nor were they even referenced to.The older script had next to no ties to the Original show and yet We get plenty of character from the show. And yet people still Freak out about the old script seriously people get over it. Its Changed.

Throwing anything Kevin Eastman says out there is not going to carry weight with many here. He seems like a nice guy and respect what he co-created a lot but the man has a history dating back years of saying what he feels people want to hear. The fact that he's being paid by the makers of this movie adds another incentive for him to do this, he even recently claimed that turtles were aliens in the original comics.

The actor playing Raphael has said that he's frustrated reading about the movie and its not what we think. A rather sweeping statement and we don't know what specificaly he's talking about. Seems to me he's understandably frustrated that people assume that the movie will be terrible and he thinks it wont. Not that he's best person to judge, I'm willing to bet many of the people working Batman & Robin thought they were making a good movie.

From what we have available to us what is different is April is older and working at Channel 6 with some of the colleagues from the Fred Wolf show and the turtles no longer aliens and what is same is militaristic Foot, the turtles being captured by said Foot and a snowy hill. That's three pretty distinct things to show that the script has been re-written not ditched outright. Now we're left with the question to what degree it has been rewritten?

[samxsteal]

oh forget it dude, these worriewarts dont WANT to be any happier..everything you said in the last few posts exactly matches my points of view and I silently am waiting for the moment that people here will realize that this script is not the script for this film..I have read and heard the evidence you named in your posts myself and talked with friends about it, too...in fact I think there are more poeple wout there who get that this old silly **** has nothing to with the production on this movie...but it seems the fanbase here doesnt want to read that...they stay persuaded on their believes and want to be proven wrong...until that day they love bitching about this or that thing....its sad but you are going to knock your head by trying to speak some reason here;)....
Exactly My only issue was was Megan fox(Even the whole leaked script and alien thing upset me but i figured it would be changed and hahaha look it did)
And even Megan fox as seen recently seems to be looking up. Her hair,while not bright red is a red brown that seems to be a good trade off. plus so far she hasn't been overly sexualised Even the trampoline part isn't that sexualised. Ever thing else seem great the mocap looks great so far.

Even the foot i my eyes see logical. and im excited to see how they play out thought i am hope they are overly militarized. but i dont think they will be.
Everything else seems great even the actor who might play shredder seems great he has a very imposing voice has played gangsters in the past. and is a great actor and if it is shredder he is playing chances are we wont see his face. Plus we're not even sure if that really who hes playing and there are plenty of other main character he could play. bebop Rocksteady , shredder krang and that just from the original show there are plenty other character possible

Bay said that script was the real deal but from before he and Platinum Dunes became involved. That of course seems to be flubbing the truth because the date on the script is after Bay became involved.

The idea that Bay would say that the turtles are aliens and not to be a reference to that script is ridiculous but Bay say has recently stated that they were never meant to be aliens and that it was supposed to be the ooze. Whichever way you try to spin that it's a lie. If script was real then they were going to be aliens at one point.
How is the fact that he said there not meant to be Aliens and that they were mutants, And the fact the the titles is back to Teenaged mutant Ninja Turtles. Is a lie I think you dont understand things.

Leaked script come out People freak. Bay say not the script Were using this is an older script
Bay happens to say there aliens. Then come out and says that's wrong and there mutants.
Title Change to Ninja Turtles. Changed back to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
ALSO Michael Bay isn't really fully involved(everyone thinks he is) Hes not the Director, Hes not the Producer, Hes the owner of the production company being used Like like saying Bill gate Designed the mother board of his computers. Thats flaw.

Has anyone even thought maybe he was getting is information mixed up??? Seeing as he is not involved like alot of you believe.


Throwing anything Kevin Eastman says out there is not going to carry weight with many here. He seems like a nice guy and respect what he co-created a lot but the man has a history dating back years of saying what he feels people want to hear. The fact that he's being paid by the makers of this movie adds another incentive for him to do this, he even recently claimed that turtles were aliens in the original comics.
THis just seems like and Excuse to me sorry if you dont agree and im sure even if he is being paid by them that his creation hes not going to let them just do what ever they want with it. Hes going to Try and get the best possible out come.

The actor playing Raphael has said that he's frustrated reading about the movie and its not what we think. A rather sweeping statement and we don't know what specificaly he's talking about. Seems to me he's understandably frustrated that people assume that the movie will be terrible and he thinks it wont. Not that he's best person to judge, I'm willing to bet many of the people working Batman & Robin thought they were making a good movie. He blatantly said Most fans have it wrong. how is that a sweeping statement. Also Has said he was a fan and personally believes this is something fans will enjoy.

From what we have available to us what is different is April is older and working at Channel 6 with some of the colleagues from the Fred Wolf show and the turtles no longer aliens and what is same is militaristic Foot, the turtles being captured by said Foot and a snowy hill. That's three pretty distinct things to show that the script has been re-written not ditched outright. Now we're left with the question to what degree it has been rewritten?When i comes to the foot If yo look closely at each actors their Knuckles are wrapped for hand to hand combat Many have both trowing knives, stun batons, swords, and knives. Ok we having seen anything about the tutrles be capture on a snowing hill. Only that the filmed as a ski lodge, which means nothing. and the photo of them being drug throught a cit ally with absolutely no snow. Again is seem like you're just making excuses and connecting dots the aren't actually really and coming up with decisions based one next to nothing.

[marcelangelo]

hey man...there are a BUNCH of quotes in the last post with my name on it but there not from my statements at all..these were other peoples statements...why is that?!?!

[samxsteal]

hey man...there are a BUNCH of quotes in the last post with my name on it but there not from my statements at all..these were other peoples statements...why is that?!?!

Sorry fixed i meant to copy the other quote woops sorry lol I agree with you

[Xav]

ALSO Michael Bay isn't really fully involved(everyone thinks he is) Hes not the Director, Hes not the ProducerHe's not the producer? Then how do you explain this?
http://meganfoxworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=14887&fullsize=1

[marcelangelo]

Sorry fixed i meant to copy the other quote woops sorry lol I agree with you

hahahhaha no problemo, dude!;)booyakashaaaa

[Galactus]

How is the fact that he said there not meant to be Aliens and that they were mutants, And the fact the the titles is back to Teenaged mutant Ninja Turtles. Is a lie I think you dont understand things.

Leaked script come out People freak. Bay say not the script Were using this is an older script
Bay happens to say there aliens. Then come out and says that's wrong and there mutants.
Title Change to Ninja Turtles. Changed back to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
ALSO Michael Bay isn't really fully involved(everyone thinks he is) Hes not the Director, Hes not the Producer, Hes the owner of the production company being used Like like saying Bill gate Designed the mother board of his computers. Thats flaw.

He stated that the turtles were never supposed to be aliens. The script which he himself confirmed to be real and we can see is definitely from a point when he was involved shows that when it was written the turtles were supposed to be aliens. So yes, it's a lie.

As for why there's a lot of talk about Bay. Well indications have always been that he's someone that gets pretty involved with the movies he produces. Apart from one time he's been happy to comment on the movie as if he is actively involved.

THis just seems like and Excuse to me sorry if you dont agree and im sure even if he is being paid by them that his creation hes not going to let them just do what ever they want with it. Hes going to Try and get the best possible out come.

How is it an excuse?

He stated at the time it came out that Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation was going to dark and have a tone similar to the live action movies. He allowed fans to assume that Venus was forced on the show instead of being created by him. He said he never sold his Intellectual Property Rights to the TMNT to Laird. He's even recently stated the turtles were aliens in the original comics. Amongst other things.

He's a people pleaser, of course he's going to stick up for the upcoming movie.

He blatantly said Most fans have it wrong. how is that a sweeping statement. Also Has said he was a fan and personally believes this is something fans will enjoy.

Wrong about what exactly? He didn't give any specifics about what he meant.

Surely you are familiar with the way people in the entertainment industry operate. Look at how most people interviewed who work on TMNT are "fans" and how conveniently everyone who voices a turtle always says the turtle they voice has always been the favourite.

When i comes to the foot If yo look closely at each actors their Knuckles are wrapped for hand to hand combat Many have both trowing knives, stun batons, swords, and knives. Ok we having seen anything about the tutrles be capture on a snowing hill. Only that the filmed as a ski lodge, which means nothing. and the photo of them being drug throught a cit ally with absolutely no snow. Again is seem like you're just making excuses and connecting dots the aren't actually really and coming up with decisions based one next to nothing.

I'm not sure what your point is? If the Foot are simply ninjas wearing military garb then that's fine but given in the script they were an actual military black ops group trained in martial arts by an alien named Schrader you can't blame us for looking at those photos and worrying about this.

A ski lodge is a pretty distinct place for a TMNT story which usualy is set in New York City with an occasional sojourn to somewhere like Japan or another planet. Again you can't blame people for thinking that the leaked script had a scene with that location and thinking that scene will be in the movie.

Same with the turtles in chains. That is right out of that script. We could be forgive for thinking that its a plot point that has survived the rewrites and speculate on what else has been retained.

Remember when Tim Burton was making Batman he released footage to help convince fans the movie was on the right track. Sadly all we've gotten from people involved is a bit of fibbing and the feeble promise of "it's good..honest"

Lots of fans were skeptical of the Nickleodeon cartoon but we saw the 2D designs and fans were okay with it. They had the fan event were select fans were invited to see some of the early work and even give feed back. We got unfinished clips to show the general vibe they were going for. All we know so far is the turtles are not aliens afterall.

[samxsteal]

He's not the producer? Then how do you explain this?
http://meganfoxworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=14887&fullsize=1

new to me as i recall even when it was first announce and up until recently he was only involved via his company, I even remember here there being more producers of name I cant remember(hardly do when it comes to movie) so I retract my statement I'm sorry


He stated that the turtles were never supposed to be aliens. The script which he himself confirmed to be real and we can see is definitely from a point when he was involved shows that when it was written the turtles were supposed to be aliens. So yes, it's a lie.
Again How is it a lie he said they are not aliens but mutants at this stage. This does not mean any of the previous scripts were fake, Just that there not being used and have been changed that not a lie that common, and common since.
timeline Script leaked,
Bay says script not his
Bay say they were alien
Bay says they're no longer aliens

How is any of that a lie.

As for why there's a lot of talk about Bay. Well indications have always been that he's someone that gets pretty involved with the movies he produces. Apart from one time he's been happy to comment on the movie as if he is actively involved.
What movies has he Produced that had his heavy hand in creating, Because the only thing i can think of are movies hes directed, not produced.



How is it an excuse?

He stated at the time it came out that Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation was going to dark and have a tone similar to the live action movies. He allowed fans to assume that Venus was forced on the show instead of being created by him. He said he never sold his Intellectual Property Rights to the TMNT to Laird. He's even recently stated the turtles were aliens in the original comics. Amongst other things.

He's a people pleaser, of course he's going to stick up for the upcoming movie. Have you seen the First couple Episode they started out as Dark and more serious but over time if changed. Remember this kind of thing go through studies prescreenings and people judge it and they change it plus the network it was on, so it eventually changed and evolved into what we got not saying it was perfect i still watched it it has its issues but could have been worse. but think about what else was on tv at the time it has very similar tonally.

So what if hes a people pleaser he thought the show was going to we a certain way(before the release), that turn out to be wrong. only after it aired, it was most liekly writen differently and change to suit the channel and demographic.



Wrong about what exactly? He didn't give any specifics about what he meant.

Surely you are familiar with the way people in the entertainment industry operate. Look at how most people interviewed who work on TMNT are "fans" and how conveniently everyone who voices a turtle always says the turtle they voice has always been the favourite.
He said he was a fan of the original Show and Movies Same with the guy who's playing Michelangelo both have said fan should be excite and will enjoy the movie, but think fans need to be patient.



I'm not sure what your point is? If the Foot are simply ninjas wearing military garb then that's fine but given in the script they were an actual military black ops group trained in martial arts by an alien named Schrader you can't blame us for looking at those photos and worrying about this. i understand you worry but Flat out say " OH GOD THERE MILITARY" is just over reacting remember the foot in Original show used guns all of them In fact shredder and everyone else used more guns then they used ninja weapons. As more the clothing that a modern ninja look pluss the Kabuki masks that all look the same that very japanese not Military Military don where those kind of masks sorry. Pluss the weapons thereholding are not normal military weapons bright yellow??? sorry you got me they look a like special forces Pluss having sword throwing knives and stun batons, yeah definitely special forces.

I get the ties A see them i understand but seriously getting hung up on this is pointless.

A ski lodge is a pretty distinct place for a TMNT story which usualy is set in New York City with an occasional sojourn to somewhere like Japan or another planet. Again you can't blame people for thinking that the leaked script had a scene with that location and thinking that scene will be in the movie. Yeah a turtles never went to other dimensions or country's or planets, them being on snow can only happen in the leaked script ok you got me.

Same with the turtles in chains. That is right out of that script. We could be forgive for thinking that its a plot point that has survived the rewrites and speculate on what else has been retained.And they have never been caught before ever, and i understand the leaked script had them as well this does mean it definitely the leaked script its not like they would use a similar scene ever oringal show never had them captured, 2000 show never had then captured, comics never had them captured sure(sarcasm)

Remember when Tim Burton was making Batman he released footage to help convince fans the movie was on the right track. Sadly all we've gotten from people involved is a bit of fibbing and the feeble promise of "it's good..honest"Seriously this is Batman this is Tim Burton, There are movie all of there place the Have never Nore dont have to Show the fan everything just to keep them from freaking out some time less is more in the long run.

Lots of fans were skeptical of the Nickleodeon cartoon but we saw the 2D designs and fans were okay with it. They had the fan event were select fans were invited to see some of the early work and even give feed back. We got unfinished clips to show the general vibe they were going for. All we know so far is the turtles are not aliens afterall. And it out great. but movies are different they dont have to show the fans everything to make them happy it kinda of stupid to assuming they should sorry.

[CyberCubed]

If Shredder is changed to a white general who is really an alien I can see the backlash coming a mile away. Changing Shredder's origin is almost as controversial as the Turtles into aliens.

[chrisdude]

Again How is it a lie he said they are not aliens but mutants at this stage. This does not mean any of the previous scripts were fake, Just that there not being used and have been changed that not a lie that common, and common since.
timeline Script leaked,
Bay says script not his
Bay say they were alien
Bay says they're no longer aliens

How is any of that a lie.
Sometime before January 30 2012: A script is written.

March 2012: Bay uses the word "alien" on stage, and freaks everyone out. He later says fans need to "chill," because they haven't read the script.

August 2012: The script leaks. A site called Latino Review posts exerpts, highlighting the worst parts. But the actual file made it to the web, and some of us have read the entire thing. Bay's writers' names are on every page. The date on the script is 1/30/2012. That's a year after Bay and his guys signed on to the film, and it's a month before Bay said "alien" on stage. In that script, the turtles are from another planet.

September 2012: Bay posts on his website that the leaked script "was written well before I, or anyone at Platinum Dunes, was involved with the project." By this comment, he is confirming that the script is real. But in the same breath, he's claiming that he and his guys had nothing to do with it. Do you see why that sounds like a lie?

April 2013: Bay states that the turtles won't be aliens, and acts as if that was always the case.


Also, if you think a snowy hill was involved in two unrelated TMNT scripts, that's just crazy.

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[drewizzle88]

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Had the same thing happen.

[chrisdude]

Had the same thing happen.Ah. Well, I guess it wasn't us, then.

[drewizzle88]

Ah. Well, I guess it wasn't us, then.

I think Michael Bay tried to ban us :tlol:

[turtletoons81]

I think Michael Bay tried to ban us :tlol:

*chokes on soda* :lol: that's a good one drewizzle

[samxsteal]

Sometime before January 30 2012: A script is written. I remember hearing about said script some time around 2011 And was circulated Via down loads and Pirate website. and onlye as of last year was spread like wild fire. Alos people have been working on a New TMNT in some shape since 2009

March 2012: Bay uses the word "alien" on stage, and freaks everyone out. He later says fans need to "chill," because they haven't read the script. Because IMO they were probably re working the script which happen for every script many thing change even so much so that scripts can easily be rewritten completely

August 2012: The script leaks. A site called Latino Review posts exerpts, highlighting the worst parts. But the actual file made it to the web, and some of us have read the entire thing. Bay's writers' names are on every page. The date on the script is 1/30/2012. That's a year after Bay and his guys signed on to the film, and it's a month before Bay said "alien" on stage. In that script, the turtles are from another planet.
I frequent this site i remember hearing information well back till 2009, about al sort of different thing from scripts to directors to just about everything.

September 2012: Bay posts on his website that the leaked script "was written well before I, or anyone at Platinum Dunes, was involved with the project." By this comment, he is confirming that the script is real. But in the same breath, he's claiming that he and his guys had nothing to do with it. Do you see why that sounds like a lie?Is is possibly the date on the script was when if might have been scheduled for not when it was written?? and we all know the script was really i dont see and issue with this. IT just seems to me that this is just bad communication from both fans and people working on it and most things based on word of mouth.

April 2013: Bay states that the turtles won't be aliens, and acts as if that was always the case.
From what i have seen it wasn't that it has always been the case just that it have definitely been change that is where they are at currently

Also, if you think a snowy hill was involved in two unrelated TMNT scripts, that's just crazy. They didn't film on a snowy hill, they film at a ski resort. Which are used all the time for movie and alot of time used for thing totally uninvolved with skiing or snow. And even if this isn't thew case fine there snow so what what so strange about having snow in a tmnt movie i just dont see it.

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All im saying is thing have obviously change why hang on to all the bad things of the movie why change the movie for the better adding love characters of the Original show, And keep and aspect they no is making people mad?????

And if this is still scradder then i will see how it plays out. If it is bad I still got the Original show the new show and the old movies. But i just have faith based on what i have seen.

Don't get me wrong i was pissed when they said Megan fox was April Mostly because i thought she would be over sexualised and so far i dont see that being done here. Adding Vernon and Erma Casting great people for the turtles well known name for other and using the style they are using for the turtles seems great. foot seem IMO like ninja commandos Ala GI Joe seem fine

[chrisdude]

It was a ski slope and a golf driving range, in the snow. They also brought in vehicles that coincide with the script scene.
In the script, SUVS and a helicopter were involved in a downhill chase on a snowy hill. They brought SUVs and a helicopter to the ski slope.

My point is that his people did write that script. It was a lie when he said they didn't. And the script still had aliens in it a month before he said "alien" on stage. When he said it, he meant it. That's why he didn't deny aliens until just last month, a full year after he said it on stage. Whatever rewrite was going on, it was after he said "alien" on stage.

[samxsteal]

It was a ski slope and a golf driving range, in the snow. They also brought in vehicles that coincide with the script scene.
In the script, SUVS and a helicopter were involved in a downhill chase on a snowy hill. They brought SUVs and a helicopter to the ski slope.

My point is that his people did write that script. It was a lie when he said they didn't. And the script still had aliens in it a month before he said "alien" on stage. When he said it, he meant it. That's why he didn't deny aliens until just last month, a full year after he said it on stage. Whatever rewrite was going on, it was after he said "alien" on stage.

That fine But they did change the script he did change his statement about thing being aliens I dont see this is any way confirms or gives any strong evidence to the fact the Shradder is still in the movie. i just feel like alot of you are almost holding on the the fact the it has to be shradder and the movie will thus be bad, and any and all who feel other wise are weird and wrong. IMO that just how a feel reading these boards. Which i just find silly. i guess i just have faith that some of you dont have, that them seeing reaction from fans and making changes to the script and them being smart enough as a movie company to make a great movie. Company Are beginning to understand you dont need to great change the source material to reach a greater audience, As seen with Marvel movies. And i understand Bay has a bad wrap(as a director not a producer as far as i have seen) But that not who directing it and the fact that the Co creator is also closely tied to this i have faith Hes not stupid he doesn't want to property to be hurt in anyway.

(as bad as some of the turtles show(TMNTNM) and the silly muscle foray As it stands it was meant for kids and they enjoyed it i myself included)

[Welmanshire]

http://www.critiques4geeks.com/2013/05/10/movies-william-fichtner-joins-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-in-iconic-role/

http://screenrant.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-images-villain-casting-2014/

Sorry if this has been posted already, but this article claims Fichtner will be playing Stockman, he will turn into a anthropomorphic fly and there will be mousers.

[Leo656]

If Stockman's in it now, I'm predicting the movie will suck just because they'll be trying to fit 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag. They seem to be throwing in OT characters just because they exist, not because they'd make sense or be portrayed well within the limits of a 90-minute film (I'm realistic, it's a kids' toy commercial and I'd be shocked if they went a full 2 hours).

Any number of these characters COULD be done well in a film, but not all of them at once, no way. This is getting ridiculous.

IF. Always that "If". But I think it's what a lot of people who are against an OT live-action film have been dreading, that they'd throw every bit of OT stuff in the film even if it ruined the story. Meh.

[Welmanshire]

I wouldn't say it is getting ridiculous. I mean, we only have the Turtles, April and Vernon confirmed. We don't KNOW who the villain will be. I would prefer Stockman over Schrader for sure.

[Leo656]

No, we don't know, but the fact they're still announcing actors signing on concerns me as to how cluttered the film may end up being. Because if these people weren't playing semi-important characters, they wouldn't make a big deal about them joining the cast.

If you count the Turtles, Splinter, April, Vernon, and at least one major villain, that's already EIGHT characters juggling around for attention in a film that likely won't be more than an hour and a half or so. Add in "potentials" that have been rumored but not confirmed like Irma, Casey, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady.... yeah, way too much. Remember how TMNT 2K7 was so scatter-shot that once it was over, you couldn't remember anything that you'd just seen? Less is more.

I'm concerned it'll end up like X-Men 3, where they just go "Hey, here's a character you remember!" every few seconds and none of it actually means anything. They'd be better off ignoring some characters entirely rather than go that route.

[ToTheNines]

That makes me happy. I'd much rather have white Baxter than white Shredder.

[Welmanshire]

The original film had the four turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, The Shredder, Danny, Tatsu and Charles you could count Stern as well. But that is 11/12 characters that all have substantial screen time and work in the story. I'm not too worried about it.

[chrisdude]

Doesn't really make sense to use Baxter, when we already know The Foot play a big role... Of course, I just claimed the other day that adapting the first season of OT was the path to riches...

Personally, I've been dying to see mousers on screen. I'd love for this to be true. It's just a lot to do. Maybe he'll just be in the movie, and not a main character. If he's even Stockman.

[Welmanshire]

Personally, I've been dying to see mousers on screen. I'd love for this to be true. It's just a lot to do. Maybe he'll just be in the movie, and not a main character. If he's even Stockman.

Same! I always thought it would make for some cool looking fight scenes!

[CyberCubed]

I'd be really surprised if "white" Baxter makes a return.

4kids, IDW and even Nick all went with the African American version of Baxter. To see white Baxter return for the first time since the 80's...wow.

[ctt4lfecw]

HOLY ****! Fly Baxter!!! This movie is going to be epic!

[MrTMNT2012]

HOLY ****! Fly Baxter!!! This movie is going to be epic!

Should be Epic. I'm gonna say this now, if the Movie turned out to be the Best TMNT Movie ever, then....I along a few others called it since the casting news! :)

I'm being overly optimistic maybe, but everything is starting to go in a great direction so far! (Except Megan Fox)

[ctt4lfecw]

Should be Epic. I'm gonna say this now, if the Movie turned out to be the Best TMNT Movie ever, then....I along a few others called it since the casting news! :)

I'm being overly optimistic maybe, but everything is starting to go in a great direction so far! (Except Megan Fox)

^
Eh, I think Fox will be good. I have faith.

[AquaParade]

Hell yes, I'll take Fly-Baxter!

I am at the point where I am just going to embrace the bat-**** craziness of this film, and hope it is way over the top! Now they better just throw in the technodrome!

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if they chose a white actor because of the fly mutation. Wouldn't have mind seeing a black Baxter become the fly.

[NinjaPug]

Anyone heard of this Critique 4 Geeks website that is reporting this white Baxter / fly rumor?

This is the first I've heard of this website. I'm going to wait for a more credible source before worrying about this.

[Raven]

They could be going the IDW route, where these characters appear in the movie but don't turn into there cartoon iconic part till the next one (Getting the movie ready for a set up or something.)

If he is playing baxter I could see him being a military advisor, especially when the Turtles get captured he could be the one responsible for experimenting on them and stuff?

[Bob]

I doubt the "fly" rumour holds any weight. I've never even heard of the website. I’m still betting he’s playing Colonel Schrader.

[CyberCubed]

I doubt the "fly" rumour holds any weight. I’m still betting he’s playing Colonel Schrader.

They did say inside sources and if he was playing Shredder they would have just said that.

They didn't just confirm Baxter but also the mousers and the fly mutation which is a pretty big thing to just be a rumor.

[chrisdude]

They did say inside sources and if he was playing Shredder they would have just said that.

They didn't just confirm Baxter but also the mousers and the fly mutation which is a pretty big thing to just be a rumor.And yet you could have typed it just as easily.

I don't just accept a supposed leak as truth unless it comes out of Deadline, Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, or maybe Latino Review. This site, I've never heard of.

[CyberCubed]

Why would they make it up though? Baxter being white wouldn't be surprising given how much OT influence there is especially with Vernon and possibly Irma being used.

[chrisdude]

Why would they make it up though? Baxter being white wouldn't be surprising given how much OT influence there is especially with Vernon and possibly Irma being used.I'm not saying it's hard to believe. I'm just saying it's words typed on a keyboard, from a site with no reputation. The article only has one comment, so how many readers could they have? Why would a 'source' go to them, instead of somewhere reputable? Or, why would this site get to the info first?

I'm not saying it's false, but I gotta take it with a grain of salt.

[Bob]

Don’t get me wrong. I would actually rather he were playing Stockman and that he turns into a mutant fly, but I just can’t see it. At least not for the first film. We’ve got the military Foot, so they’re going to be led by someone. Therefore, I really think he’s playing Schrader. Don’t forget, we’ve likely got Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, too (I doubt they would have dropped three characters with such limitless merchandise opportunities). That’s too many villains for the first film of a potential franchise. Also, this website was completely unknown to me until about twenty minutes ago.

[NinjaPug]

Websites post rumors like this all the time to get hits. Nothing happens if they're wrong. Unfortunately that's how the Internet works now.

The fact that it isn't a credible site means it probably isn't a credible rumor. Thats why I'm going to wait for a better source (or set pictures) before I believe it.

[chrisdude]

Don’t get me wrong. I would actually rather he were playing Stockman and that he turns into a mutant fly, but I just can’t see it. At least not for the first film. We’ve got the military Foot, so they’re going to be led by someone. Therefore, I really think he’s playing Schrader. Don’t forget, we’ve likely got Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, too (I doubt they would have dropped three characters with such limitless merchandise opportunities). That’s too many villains for the first film of a potential franchise. Also, this website was completely unknown to me until about twenty minutes ago.:o Oh man! I hadn't even considered new Bebop and Rocksteady action figures!

However, Bebop, Rocksteady, Stockman, Mousers, Shredder and Krang in one movie? I said before, if it were up to me, I'd try to cram the whole first season in one movie. It'd chaotic, crazy, and as ridiculous as can be, but so was the first season of OT - and the first few issues of Mirage. It would be one crazy action-packed ninja-scifi joyride.

Heck, you might wish Michael Bay directed that.

[CyberCubed]

Actually I think Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady were cut from the movie. They had small roles and nothing has hinted at them, no mocap suits for them either.

[Bob]

Heck, you might wish Michael Bay directed that.

Honest opinion? I would actually rather Bay were directing this, anyway. He's an infinitely better director than Liebesman.

[Xav]

I'd be really surprised if "white" Baxter makes a return.

4kids, IDW and even Nick all went with the African American version of Baxter. To see white Baxter return for the first time since the 80's...wow.Yes, usually movie studios want more minority characters not less.

[Powder]

Mutant Baxter with Mousers & all? Sign me up.

[Galactus]

Again How is it a lie he said they are not aliens but mutants at this stage. This does not mean any of the previous scripts were fake, Just that there not being used and have been changed that not a lie that common, and common since.
timeline Script leaked,
Bay says script not his
Bay say they were alien
Bay says they're no longer aliens

How is any of that a lie.

"There was that quote saying that we’re making [the Ninja Turtles as] aliens. We’re not. It’s the ooze! It’s from the original source material. These are from the original writers, and I never went out to correct myself in the press. I do listen to the fans and I do want this to be authentic. I think they’re going to be really happy with this movie. When I see the digital stuff, the turtles look great."

Bay says he never made an attempt correct himself. That seems convey that they always mutants and never supposed to be aliens. We know that is not true; hence it's a lie.

Have you seen the First couple Episode they started out as Dark and more serious but over time if changed. Remember this kind of thing go through studies prescreenings and people judge it and they change it plus the network it was on, so it eventually changed and evolved into what we got not saying it was perfect i still watched it it has its issues but could have been worse. but think about what else was on tv at the time it has very similar tonally.

So what if hes a people pleaser he thought the show was going to we a certain way(before the release), that turn out to be wrong. only after it aired, it was most liekly writen differently and change to suit the channel and demographic.

I've seen the whole series and the first few episodes are just as much schlock as the rest of it. Perhaps you can point to me how its darker and more serious than other episodes? He was pretty well involved in The Next Mutation and surely knew it wasn't going to be a dark show. Even so allowing the misconception that Venus was forced on them can't be easily explained away.

There's other examples of when Kevin has put a certain spin or been creative with the truth to give a postive impression. I'm not knocking the guy but I think a few of us have learned to take what he says on these matters with a pinch of salt.

He said he was a fan of the original Show and Movies Same with the guy who's playing Michelangelo both have said fan should be excite and will enjoy the movie, but think fans need to be patient.

I don't think you grasp my point or the concept of media training. Pretty much anyone who is of a decent level of notoriety has it to a degree. Most people involved in the movie will say that they are big fans in interviews. It's not like they are going to say "I barely know the franchise but work is work".

i understand you worry but Flat out say " OH GOD THERE MILITARY" is just over reacting remember the foot in Original show used guns all of them In fact shredder and everyone else used more guns then they used ninja weapons. As more the clothing that a modern ninja look pluss the Kabuki masks that all look the same that very japanese not Military Military don where those kind of masks sorry. Pluss the weapons thereholding are not normal military weapons bright yellow??? sorry you got me they look a like special forces Pluss having sword throwing knives and stun batons, yeah definitely special forces.

The Foot don't look like standard military, true but then they weren't standard military in the leaked script either. They were a special ninja unit.

But hey, maybe you're right and this is just coincidence.

Yeah a turtles never went to other dimensions or country's or planets, them being on snow can only happen in the leaked script ok you got me.

Its not a location that lends itself to a standard TMNT story. I guess its another coincidence that they'd use this specific setting and vehicles.

And they have never been caught before ever, and i understand the leaked script had them as well this does mean it definitely the leaked script its not like they would use a similar scene ever oringal show never had them captured, 2000 show never had then captured, comics never had them captured sure(sarcasm)

On another thread I talked about how that scene is very different to other depictions of the turtles being captured. But once again we've got another pretty big coincidence of something very specific happening in the leaked script and then happening in the actual movie.

Seriously this is Batman this is Tim Burton, There are movie all of there place the Have never Nore dont have to Show the fan everything just to keep them from freaking out some time less is more in the long run.

You'd think given the the reputation this movie has gotten of being a "disaster waiting to happen" not just from fans but from the media you'd think they'd do or say something to reassure everyone they are on the "right" track.

You could say that all publicity is good publicity and that people talking and getting passionate (even negatively) about this movie is a good thing but the situation with the 1989 Batman movie is similar except Burton had the goods to show he was potraying Batman in the way fans would be happy with I can't help but think that Liebesman and Bay do not.

[Xav]

The Foot don't look like standard military, true but then they weren't standard military in the leaked script either. They were a special ninja unit.They were? I don't recall anything ninja about the Foot in the leaked script.

[jenna]

http://www.critiques4geeks.com/2013/05/10/movies-william-fichtner-joins-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-in-iconic-role/

http://screenrant.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-images-villain-casting-2014/

Sorry if this has been posted already, but this article claims Fichtner will be playing Stockman, he will turn into a anthropomorphic fly and there will be mousers.

I like the idea as Stockman as a villain, but could do without the fly mutation. A scientist in a setting with 4 mutant turtles has got to be a pretty terrifying concept on its own.

Actually I think Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady were cut from the movie. They had small roles and nothing has hinted at them, no mocap suits for them either.

I hope you are right.

I know not everyone will agree with me (there is clearly a lot of love for Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady and other miscellaneous mutants). I just don't see the need to revive them in film.

[Darth Knuckles]

I'm assuming that this new announcement means that he will play Shredder, and hopefully not Col. Schrader. I think he's an understandable choice to play The Shredder. Although I could see him easily playing The Rat King as well. He has that look too.

[tommyday]

I don't think Krang has been cut, the logline on IMDB mentions an alien invasion that inadvertently spurs the Turtles' mutations, so I think Krang will still be there.

[NYShell]

I don't want there to be a Col. Schrader. I want it to be "The Shredder". As much as I think William Fitchner is a good actor, I don't want some white dude to play a military general. He's suppose to have a ninja/samurai influence. Same thing with the Foot. They look decent, but they should be a bunch of asian guys as ninjas. Not a bunch of white guys as a military unit.

[Xav]

I don't think Krang has been cut, the logline on IMDB mentions an alien invasion that inadvertently spurs the Turtles' mutations, so I think Krang will still be there.That's old, plus IMDB isn't always right.

[ctt4lfecw]

I don't want there to be a Col. Schrader. I want it to be "The Shredder". As much as I think William Fitchner is a good actor, I don't want some white dude to play a military general. He's suppose to have a ninja/samurai influence. Same thing with the Foot. They look decent, but they should be a bunch of asian guys as ninjas. Not a bunch of white guys as a military unit.

Amen brotha

[Powder]

I'm assuming that this new announcement means that he will play Shredder, and hopefully not Col. Schrader. I think he's an understandable choice to play The Shredder. Although I could see him easily playing The Rat King as well. He has that look too.

Didn't you see the posts about him being Baxter?

[Bob]

Didn't you see the posts about him being Baxter?

Yeah but nothing is official. It’s all still speculation. Personally, although I would much rather the Baxter rumour turns out to be true, I still think he's playing Colonel Schrader.

[thebrownranger]

I don't want there to be a Col. Schrader. I want it to be "The Shredder". As much as I think William Fitchner is a good actor, I don't want some white dude to play a military general. He's suppose to have a ninja/samurai influence. Same thing with the Foot. They look decent, but they should be a bunch of asian guys as ninjas. Not a bunch of white guys as a military unit.

Yeah, agreed.

[Godzilla]

I have a much easier time seeing William Fichtner as Agent Bishop, than as the Shredder. Personally, just by going on the announcement of his being cast would make me think of him being the former, rather than the latter, but the whole 'Iconic Stature' quote negates that notion since Bishop being identified in the iconic stature camp would be a bit of a stretch.

[Galactus]

I have a much easier time seeing William Fichtner as Agent Bishop, than as the Shredder. Personally, just by going on the announcement of his being cast would make me think of him being the former, rather than the latter, but the whole 'Iconic Stature' quote negates that notion since Bishop being identified in the iconic stature camp would be a bit of a stretch.

I doubt Bishop will be in this movie. I don't think they are interested in characters that arn't from the Fred Wolf show and even then I'm laying odds they'll only superficialy resemble those characters.

Fichter would make a good Fred Wolf-esque Baxter Stockman. He does play these twitchy, nervous characters quite well.

He really doesn't fit Shredder at all. Unless of course Shredder has been reimagined as Schrader.

[Bob]

He isn't Shredder. He is either Baxter Stockman or Colonel Schrader.

[ctt4lfecw]

It would make me feel so much better if someone came out and said there was no Col. Schrader.

[Welmanshire]

He isn't Shredder. He is either Baxter Stockman or Colonel Schrader.

I would like to point out that no one has officially ruled The Shredder out yet.

[raphfan84]

Idk if anyone has seen this but I was just on imdb and i know sometimes its not right but i think we might have our Shredder finally his name is Daniel Bernhardt and it shows in his bio he is a Martial Artist! Idk though we will see.

[CyberCubed]

Is he Japanese?

[raphfan84]

No it shows he is actually from Switzerland...but he looks awfully tan in most pics iv seen. He has been in several Martial Arts movies, Mortal Kombat is one.

[chrisdude]

Idk if anyone has seen this but I was just on imdb and i know sometimes its not right but i think we might have our Shredder finally his name is Daniel Bernhardt and it shows in his bio he is a Martial Artist! Idk though we will see.He's actually been spotted on set in regular Foot gear.

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http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h105/Fraser_HIM/MeganFoxbyhermovieseteOKHC8HGil9l_zpsbad5849a.jpg
At least people say it's him. I don't know the guy, but it looks like him, to me.

[raphfan84]

That picture does resemble him...idk I just seen it on there and thought maybe Shredder for the simple fact of his martial art back ground

[NinjaPug]

That guy is just a bit actor. At most he would have a Tatsu type role with the Foot.

[Welmanshire]

I was the one who spotted him. He has only been seen in the military gear. I have seen him in several different tv series/movies. It is him. Trust me, he won't be playing The Shredder. As someone said, probably more like a Tatsu type character.

[Coola Yagami]

Is anyone else worried the movie will focus more on some sort of love/hate romance between April and Vernon that will kinda/sorta guest star the Turtles too? We already went that route before with Bay and Fox....

[frank_one]

Is anyone else worried the movie will focus more on some sort of love/hate romance between April and Vernon that will kinda/sorta guest star the Turtles too? We already went that route before with Bay and Fox....
With Bay and Fox involved, frankly I'm worried about EVERYTHING.

[chrisdude]

Is anyone else worried the movie will focus more on some sort of love/hate romance between April and Vernon that will kinda/sorta guest star the Turtles too? We already went that route before with Bay and Fox....It's weird. I absolutely expect a love story of some sort, just because it's a movie. But there's such an age gap between those two, I almost still expect to hear about Casey Jones.

[CyberCubed]

Maybe the romance will be between April and Don to mirror the Nick cartoon.

[chrisdude]

Maybe the romance will be between April and Don to mirror the Nick cartoon.
http://i.imgur.com/hT0mBcG.jpg

[Crabfight]

Gosh. I'm just so in limbo when it comes to my feelings with this movie. I really don't want this actor to play Shredder. I really don't want there to be a Schrader. I really like the actor. I'd be okay with him as Baxter. I'd LOVE Baxter as the lead villain. I don't know what to feel besides, most realistically, false optimism...

Edit: maybe misplaced optimism is more accurate.

[keaton]

I really don't see the point of ruining a brilliant bad guy just to make him a general, I've not read the leaked script but imagine shredder is trying to capture the turtles for some military tests to make some sort of army, as we see in other films. Yet shredder is such a great character that needs no messing with. I hope they just stick with the comics, if it ain't broke.

[Powder]

"I hope they just stick with the comics"

You make it seem like they already have plans to, but there's no chance. April is in yellow, Vernon is there, Irma is rumored, elements of the leaked/scrapped script have been confirmed to make it past the re-write, we have a general idea of what we're getting (I think, anyway) and the comics ain't a part of it. Believe me, I would love a comic based movie as much as the next Mirage fan, but it ain't happenin'.

[chrisdude]

"I hope they just stick with the comics"

You make it seem like they already have plans to, but there's no chance. April is in yellow, Vernon is there, Irma is rumored, elements of the leaked/scrapped script have been confirmed to make it past the re-write, we have a general idea of what we're getting (I think, anyway) and the comics ain't a part of it. Believe me, I would love a comic based movie as much as the next Mirage fan, but it ain't happenin'.It's never going to happen. Everything but the comics is so much more popular than the comics. It's a unique comic property, in that respect.

[jacobzking]

http://i.imgur.com/hT0mBcG.jpg

great movie :) didnt know anyone else but me watched it

[Jester]

great movie :) didnt know anyone else but me watched it
Indeed, you are the only one who ever saw Bowfinger.


Ok...so I haven't seen it, but I'm sure that more than one person ever saw it.

[AquaParade]

It's never going to happen. Everything but the comics is so much more popular than the comics. It's a unique comic property, in that respect.

You may be right.

Thankfully, for myself, I found the first live action film to capture the spirit of the Mirage comics pretty damn well.

[Andrew NDB]

It's never going to happen. Everything but the comics is so much more popular than the comics. It's a unique comic property, in that respect.

Ironic that the most popular movie is the one that actually bothered to semi-adapt them, isn't it?

[Lord Nightwalker]

Ironic that the most popular movie is the one that actually bothered to semi-adapt them, isn't it?

I was going to say the same thing.

[chrisdude]

Ironic that the most popular movie is the one that actually bothered to semi-adapt them, isn't it?Can't argue with that :ohwell:

[Vi11AiN6]

Here's who I'd like to see play Shredder

http://www.magweb.com/picts/actor/41297/caryhiroyuki_tagawa.jpghttp://

Cary- Hiroyuki Tagawa

[CyberCubed]

If Shredder isn't Japanese....

[dkram230]

Ugh! I had no idea who he was until I saw his picture. I probably know him best as Col. Willie Sharp from Armageddon, but have never really been a fan of his and think he would make a terrible Shredder. Random military guy? Sure. But it sounds like they have more in store for him than that. hmm...

[Andrew NDB]

Here's who I'd like to see play Shredder

http://www.magweb.com/picts/actor/41297/caryhiroyuki_tagawa.jpghttp://

Cary- Hiroyuki Tagawa

Nah, that guy is like 100 years old now and looks it. Once upon a time, yeah.

It would be a bit more reassuring to the end of "*phew*! William Fichtner isn't playing Shredder" if there was even a single Japanese actor cast in any role in the movie. There's not.

[NYShell]

Nah, that guy is like 100 years old now and looks it. Once upon a time, yeah.

It would be a bit more reassuring to the end of "*phew*! William Fichtner isn't playing Shredder" if there was even a single Japanese actor cast in any role in the movie. There's not.

Yeah. I hate that they're casting a bunch of white dudes as a military group and maybe with William Fitchner as "Col Schrader". Why is it so hard to stick to source material and cast asian guys to play the Foot "ninja" and an asian dude as "The Shredder" (ninja/samurai)? That's how it should be. I hate how directors and everything in Hollywood keep going for big names and the wrong cast.

i.e - Assassin's Creed the movie -----> Michael Fassbender as Altair?? (A Syrian assassin) Wtf?? This is what I'm talking about. They're so freakin' stupid when it comes to this crap. And it seems to be happening to the Turtles movie too.

[NYShell]

Is anyone else worried the movie will focus more on some sort of love/hate romance between April and Vernon that will kinda/sorta guest star the Turtles too? We already went that route before with Bay and Fox....

Idk about this movie though. Will Arnett as Vernon is way older than Megan Fox as April. There's too much of an age difference there.

With Bay and Fox involved, frankly I'm worried about EVERYTHING.

Lol. This had me cracking up.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

If Shredder isn't Japanese....

*shakes fist with you*:tgrumble:

[CinematicESP]

I'm hoping William Fichtner is playing Krang's robot body in human disguise. He could definitely pull off something eerie if they went in that direction. He could also provide the voice for Krang when he's revealed.

He'd also make a great Rat King. I'm just really hoping Schrader is not a real thing.

[Cure]

i.e - Assassin's Creed the movie -----> Michael Fassbender as Altair?? (A Syrian assassin) Wtf??

Have you even played that game? Altair has a super American accent and sounds out of place. If anything, casting anyone with even a slight accent is going against the source material. Can't blame Hollywood on that one.

[NYShell]

Have you even played that game? Altair has a super American accent and sounds out of place. If anything, casting anyone with even a slight accent is going against the source material. Can't blame Hollywood on that one.

I've played every AC game and I'm a huge fan. The voice actor for Altair in AC1 was horrible, and didn't properly do justice to that role. He sounded like a suburban white kid. That's why you're saying that he sounded out of place (and he did). He wasn't supposed to sound like that. He's a Syrian assassin from the Hashashin. They changed his voice in Revelations to give him the proper accent. The source material for Altair's voice was supposed to be Syrian and Ubisoft realized that and corrected it. Casting Michael Fassbender for Altair IS a bad choice. For Desmond? Maybe it could work. Read a history book about the people and culture of Masyaf and the Middle East. I know what I'm talking about.

[The Stryker]

Actors are capable of doing accents and being made up to look like that particular race. Watch The Devil's Double. It's pretty alright.

Fassbender could very well be playing Desmond but they've decided to just do a Quantum Leap type thing so Fassbender is actually in the film most of the time.

[Cure]

Read a history book about the people and culture of Masyaf and the Middle East. I know what I'm talking about.

...reading will show me a proper accent? OK.

Also, relax. It was a joke.

[NYShell]

...reading will show me a proper accent? OK.

Also, relax. It was a joke.

You were talking like Altair was supposed to have a terrible accent. So that's why.

[CinematicESP]

Just had a thought... could Fichtner be playing Leatherhead? I would say he's probably the next most "iconic" character after Shredder, Krang and Casey Jones. I could especially see him pulling off a Cajun-like portrayal like in the original cartoon. Just to add some more speculation while we wait for some sort of confirmation...

[LH]

Just had a thought... could Fichtner be playing Leatherhead? I would say he's probably the next most "iconic" character after Shredder, Krang and Casey Jones. I could especially see him pulling off a Cajun-like portrayal like in the original cartoon. Just to add some more speculation while we wait for some sort of confirmation...

Interesting theory! Not only would it be his first movie appearance, but also the first ever live action portrayal of the character! :tgrin:

[Plasticplayhouse]

sorry but i can not see leatherhead in this movie. if a second movie were to be made, i feel it would be a baxter/mousers/utrom mix. if they continued for a third movie, only then would i guess either rat king or leatherhead...or boath using leatherhead agains the utroms and the rat king as a sub plot/sub villain.

[Plasticplayhouse]

Ironic that the most popular movie is the one that actually bothered to semi-adapt them, isn't it?

yes it is. you would think that they would learn from previous experiance...