What should the new movie be rated?

[NYShell]

What do you think the new movie should be rated?
I think it should be PG-13. It would be the first PG-13 Turtles movie. I don't want this movie to be a cheesy kids movie. I felt the 2007 flick tried to take itself too seriously, but ended up being a simple kids movie. This new movie should be more mature, but fun at the same time.

[snake]

Pg-13. I mean, turtles target audience is kids, so it can't be R.
So it's definitely Pg-13.

[NinjaPug]

As a Michael Bay produced film, I'd be shocked if it wasn't PG-13.

[Davin]

PG-13, if nothing else, so the fight choreography can be more realistic/brutal. I'd love to see an R rated Mirage inspired move, but that ain't gonna happen.

[TigerClaw]

It'll be PG-13 without a doubt, Given all the action scenes which I heard will be kind of like The Raid Redemption.

[Cure]

As a Michael Bay produced film, I'd be shocked if it wasn't PG-13.

That's not saying anything, considering all of his production companies' films have been rated R.

[raphfan84]

I vote PG-13, like one member said most of Bay's movies have been PG-13.

[Cure]

I vote PG-13, like one member said most of Bay's movies have been PG-13.

Uuuuuuuuugh. The movies he's DIRECTED have been PG-13. Platinum Dunes' movies have all been R.

Not to say that TMNT will be, but there's no precedent of PG-13 movies.

[raphfan84]

You have a good point there, forgot that most Platinum Dune's were R rated.

[NinjaPug]

That's not saying anything, considering all of his production companies' films have been rated R.

I stand corrected. Most of the movies he directed were PG-13. Took a look at his list of movies that he produced and wasn't aware of the majority of them. Thanks for pointing that out.

[ctt4lfecw]

It'll be PG-13 without a doubt, Given all the action scenes which I heard will be kind of like The Raid Redemption.

I got that movie on dvd. If this is the case we're in for the best Turtles movie yet as far as combat goes.

[chrisdude]

It needs to be PG-13. That's the sweet spot for action movies. 20 years ago, it might have been an issue for kids to see PG-13 movies, but these days, all the superhero movies are PG-13, and parents bring their six-year-olds to every single one of them. I'd be shocked if it were PG. I can't think of the last PG action movie.

I figure PG could only happen if it were some Nickelodeon mandate. But I don't think they're dumb.

Plus, adults and teenagers wouldn't take an action movie seriously if it were PG. That rating is reserved for Disney/Pixar films.

[NYShell]

It needs to be PG-13. That's the sweet spot for action movies. 20 years ago, it might have been an issue for kids to see PG-13 movies, but these days, all the superhero movies are PG-13, and parents bring their six-year-olds to every single one of them. I'd be shocked if it were PG. I can't think of the last PG action movie.

I figure PG could only happen if it were some Nickelodeon mandate. But I don't think they're dumb.

Plus, adults and teenagers wouldn't take an action movie seriously if it were PG. That rating is reserved for Disney/Pixar films.

Couldn't have put it better myself. I want this one to be more gritty and intense. No Nick/kiddy b.s.

[TigerClaw]

The movie has to be PG-13 if it shows any kind of mutation caused by the mutagen.

[LH]

I expect it to end up being PG-13.

[turtletoons81]

Couldn't have put it better myself. I want this one to be more gritty and intense. No Nick/kiddy b.s.

what's your problem with nick anyway ? just cause their kiddy doesn't mean it's a bad thing in the new show it has some dark moments than alot of cartoons that nick air now,also they don't seem to be involve with leibsman tmnt movie in anyway so be thankful they brought back tmnt in 2012 cause no company and i mean no company can advertise toy's and cartoons like nickelodeon...also i obviously think the movie will have a pg-13 rating.

[LH]

I can't think of the last PG action movie.

Does TRON: Legacy count? :tconfuse:

[NYShell]

what's your problem with nick anyway just cause their kiddy doesn't mean it's a bad thing in the new show it has some dark moments than alot of cartoons that nick air now,also they don't seem to be involve with leibsman tmnt movie in anyway so be thankful they brought back tmnt in 2012 cause no company and i mean no company can advertise toy's and cartoons like nickelodeon...also i obviously think the movie will have a pg-13 rating.

I'll just have a problem if Nick does take the kiddy route with the movie. The show is an entirely different thing (and I kind of like the show). but this is a new chance to go an ACTUAL darker route. I didnt like how the 2007 flick tried to be dark and wasnt (only the Leo & raph bit) It hasnt been done in the mainstream turtle stuff, just in the comics. So im HOPING nick doesnt have influence on the movie, other than their name in the credits. And yeah, Nick can expand the turtles franchise well.

[Andrew NDB]

The Bay production's history toward a PG-13 rating gives one hope... however that all 4 previous TMNT movies have been PG and Munroe even indicated directly that their deal with Playmates was such that it was contractually obligated to be PG... doesn't instill me with a great deal of confidence. But as I've said before, I would be willing to forgive a lot of crap in the movie if it somehow manages to deliver truly memorable "ninja action" as we have never been allowed to see in a Turtle movie before. That said, the apparent complete lack of any kind of martial arts weapons of the Foot Soldiers still makes me scratch my head in terms of what sort of fighting we're actually going to even be able to see... just a series of grappling moves, blocks, weapon removals and "quick takedowns"? Boring.

[Cure]

The Bay production's history toward a PG-13 rating gives one hope...

...no one f*cking reads anymore, do they?

[LH]

Munroe even indicated directly that their deal with Playmates was such that it was contractually obligated to be PG...

Really? That's interesting...

[snake]

The Bay production's history toward a PG-13 rating gives one hope... however that all 4 previous TMNT movies have been PG and Munroe even indicated directly that their deal with Playmates was such that it was contractually obligated to be PG... doesn't instill me with a great deal of confidence. But as I've said before, I would be willing to forgive a lot of crap in the movie if it somehow manages to deliver truly memorable "ninja action" as we have never been allowed to see in a Turtle movie before. That said, the apparent complete lack of any kind of martial arts weapons of the Foot Soldiers still makes me scratch my head in terms of what sort of fighting we're actually going to even be able to see... just a series of grappling moves, blocks, weapon removals and "quick takedowns"? Boring.

Interesting...I never knew playmates had to have the movie pg.

[Andrew NDB]

Interesting...I never knew playmates had to have the movie pg.

As of the last movie they did. If Platinum Dunes/Paramount has somehow managed to either be "above the law" on that with Playmates on Turtles Part Five or just doesn't care and is soldiering on without a toy deal (unlikely, and pretty much impossible), that's unrevealed as of yet.

[snake]

As of the last movie they did. If Platinum Dunes/Paramount has somehow managed to either be "above the law" on that with Playmates on Turtles Part Five or just doesn't care and is soldiering on without a toy deal (unlikely, and pretty much impossible), that's unrevealed as of yet.

Even if it is Pg-13, there's still going to be a toyline. Although Playmates might have to bend their contract a bit.

[Andrew NDB]

Even if it is Pg-13, there's still going to be a toyline. Although Playmates might have to bend their contract a bit.

Possibly. But historically Playmates has held all of the cards over the studio/director/producer(s), not the other way around. And at least as far as the last movie goes, they were not willing to bend one millimeter.

[NYShell]

Even if it is Pg-13, there's still going to be a toyline. Although Playmates might have to bend their contract a bit.

Hopefully the turtles look realistic. And I mean really realistic. Like ILM or Weta CG. The 2007 movie art style was over-hyped. The turtles looked decent but still bad, and the human characters were just terrible. Really goofy looking. It was like watching the incredibles. I hope all these turtles look badass.

[snake]

Hopefully the turtles look realistic. And I mean really realistic. Like ILM or Weta CG. The 2007 movie art style was over-hyped. The turtles looked decent but still bad, and the human characters were just terrible. Really goofy looking. It was like watching the incredibles. I hope all these turtles look badass.

Trust me, playmates recent " Cheap" streak has been going on since 2006, expect 8 POA, figures with terrible paint jobs.

[chrisdude]

I wonder why. Why would they insist on PG after seeing all the toys Marvel and Transformers have sold. Perhaps they'll have a change of heart...

Does TRON: Legacy count? :tconfuse:Holy crap! I'm a huge TRON fan, so I was in, no matter what. I hadn't even considered that it was PG. Maybe that's part of why it underperformed...

[Shreddhead]

I wonder why. Why would they insist on PG after seeing all the toys Marvel and Transformers have sold. Perhaps they'll have a change of heart...

Holy crap! I'm a huge TRON fan, so I was in, no matter what. I hadn't even considered that it was PG. Maybe that's part of why it underperformed...

Could they have made a pg13 tron film?

[Andrew NDB]

I like the TRON duology but I don't think those are movies that would benefit from a higher-than-PG rating. Movies about teenagers (read: MAIN CHARACTERS THAT ARE 13+ YEARS OLD!!!) that are ninjas (assassins, basically) with cutting weapons and shuriken that regularly engage in combat other ninjas trying to kill them... yeah, those should probably be PG-13. Just going out on a limb there.

It's always been a little alarming to me that more people haven't been up in arms about that to that regard for, I don't know, the last four movies.

[LH]

Hopefully the turtles look realistic. And I mean really realistic. Like ILM or Weta CG. The 2007 movie art style was over-hyped. The turtles looked decent but still bad, and the human characters were just terrible. Really goofy looking. It was like watching the incredibles. I hope all these turtles look badass.

I really hope Weta is behind the Turtles. They're a great company, and they're digital effects department is phenomenal.


Holy crap! I'm a huge TRON fan, so I was in, no matter what. I hadn't even considered that it was PG. Maybe that's part of why it underperformed...

Me too! :tgrin: I have to wonder if Disney will step it up to PG-13 for the next film.

[chrisdude]

I don't think TRON: Legacy would have been better at PG-13. But maybe it would've sold more tickets.

But if we can't get a PG-13 TMNT, now, in the heyday of PG-13 superhero movies... The word is that the budget is $120. It's big enough for PG-13, I'd think. And why wouldn't a toy company see it's selling toys for everyone else? I'll just keep my fingers crossed, I guess. :ohwell:

[Shreddhead]

Me too! :tgrin: I have to wonder if Disney will step it up to PG-13 for the next film.

I kind of doubt Tron will get a third movie.

[chrisdude]

I kind of doubt Tron will get a third movie.It's moving forward. They barely made the cut, I suppose.

[NYShell]

Trust me, playmates recent " Cheap" streak has been going on since 2006, expect 8 POA, figures with terrible paint jobs.

I'm not talking about the toys. I'm talking about the art style and CG in the actual movie

[sgtfbomb]

This movie will be PG-13, but for what it's worth, PG-13 is the new PG, which is now the new G.

Could they have made a pg13 tron film?

I actually didn't realize Tron Legacy was PG. I think it got by because the violence of the film doesn't involve blood by pixels shattering to pieces and there isn't really any profanity. Death is death, but the MPAA isn't known for consistency. Films have been known to avoid higher ratings by simply changing the color of blood (the klingons in Star Trek VI), but back in the day, before PG-13, the PG rating wasn't so infantile and spineless, and actually got away with stuff you might not even see in a PG-13 today (like Quint squirting blood out of his mouth in Jaws, the melting heads of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and the face rip of Poltergeist; ironically, PG-13 was formed because of this kind of violence, which at the time wasn't gory enough for R but too heavy for PG)

[Sanjuro]

It should be rated G. No poop jokes.

[LH]

It's moving forward. They barely made the cut, I suppose.

I'm pretty sure it's due to fan demand they're moving forward. It didn't do incredible, but it made back its budget and then some. I just hope they market the film and not treat it like they did TRON: Uprising.

[turtletoons81]

I'm pretty sure it's due to fan demand they're moving forward. It didn't do incredible, but it made back its budget and then some. I just hope they market the film and not treat it like they did TRON: Uprising.

*thinks about the tron rap that disney advertiesed* ugh.

[chrisdude]

I'm pretty sure it's due to fan demand they're moving forward. It didn't do incredible, but it made back its budget and then some. I just hope they market the film and not treat it like they did TRON: Uprising.

I have a few friends who liked TRON: Legacy, but wouldn't check out Uprising, no matter how much I encouraged them to...

[thebrownranger]

That said, the apparent complete lack of any kind of martial arts weapons of the Foot Soldiers still makes me scratch my head in terms of what sort of fighting we're actually going to even be able to see... just a series of grappling moves, blocks, weapon removals and "quick takedowns"? Boring.
I feel the same way man. I don't know how long it will take until I start snoozing in the theater because the turtles keep dodging about a thousand Foot soldier bullets per second every fight scene. It's hard to see the stealthy ninja/assassin feel in them because of this militaristic "covert-ops" attire.

[zak_the_neutrino]

This topic is pointless. We all know it's gonna be PG-13. Why are we even discussing this???

[zak_the_neutrino]

I feel the same way man. I don't know how long it will take until I start snoozing in the theater because the turtles keep dodging about a thousand Foot soldier bullets per second every fight scene. It's hard to see the stealthy ninja/assassin feel in them because of this militaristic "covert-ops" attire.

Wow you sure can judge a lot about a film by one photo.

[TurtleMaster4]

I'd prefer a PG-13 turtles story for once, nothing above that, save that for the older comics.

[thebrownranger]

Wow you sure can judge a lot about a film by one photo.

My hope is that it wouldn't turn out into what I think it seems like right now, judging from what I see at the moment. Just giving my opinion from what I see so far, Mr. zak_the_neutrino.

[Powder]

My hope is that it wouldn't turn out into what I think it seems like right now, judging from what I see at the moment. Just giving my opinion from what I see so far, Mr. zak_the_neutrino.

He hates opinions and speculation.

[raph27]

Weta would be AWESOME for the Turtles. LOTR is still my favorite film to this day.

[Bob]

It will be good to finally have a PG13/12A rated TMNT film. It’s been a long time coming. Going by the director’s track record I don’t think we have to worry about anything lower.

[Metalwolf]

I hope it goes PG-13. It would be about time for the Turtles to return to their darker and more grittier roots.

[chrisdude]

I hope it goes PG-13. It would be about time for the Turtles to return to their darker and more grittier roots.Whoa, yeah no. I wouldn't count on that.

But PG-13 seems like a no-brainer. Unless some suits force them to go PG for some dumb reason, it should happen. PG-13 doesn't scare parents anymore.

[Plasticplayhouse]

Possibly. But historically Playmates has held all of the cards over the studio/director/producer(s), not the other way around. And at least as far as the last movie goes, they were not willing to bend one millimeter.

that may have been the case when pete owned the turtles and playmates was an initial investor into the tmnt line when many others balked at "ninja turtles". all that's in the past. viacom is the new owner and playmates was chosen from a host of various toy companies that were interested. i doubt playmates holds as much clout now as they may have in the past. transformers was pg-13 and their toyline which is geared to the same age group, was very successful. i think it will be pg-13 and it wont be an issue.

[chrisdude]

I don't know anything about the rights, and who owns what, but if whoever's in charge can't see the toys these Marvel movies are moving, somebody needs to knock them on the head. #40differentironmans

[Raphael Let It Go]

It will probably be PG-13 but how cool would it be to have a R rated movie? I mean Leo has katanas for Christsake! It would be a bit more realistic if he chopped some bad guy with them. Sometimes it is nice to embrace the source material. TMNT is dark and violent so I think the medium of film or television should reflect that. Producers need to stop catering to children. Besides, the children from the golden era of the Turtles are almost well into their 30s. :tgrin:

[Candy Kappa]

you can still have Leo cut a Foot in a PG-13 movie, theres no need for Tarantino blood fountain do indicate a direct hit from a sword.

[Luzmagica]

It needs to be PG-13. That's the sweet spot for action movies. 20 years ago, it might have been an issue for kids to see PG-13 movies, but these days, all the superhero movies are PG-13, and parents bring their six-year-olds to every single one of them. I'd be shocked if it were PG. I can't think of the last PG action movie.

Plus, adults and teenagers wouldn't take an action movie seriously if it were PG. That rating is reserved for Disney/Pixar films.

I think you got a goog point here.... :)

... however that all 4 previous TMNT movies have been PG and Munroe even indicated directly that their deal with Playmates was such that it was contractually obligated to be PG...

Interesting...I never knew playmates had to have the movie pg.

Same here! I never knew about that neither!

So.....I didnt vote because both opinions have a good point there!! :tgrin: :)

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

Reeeeealy didn't wanna start another thread for this question but I didn't wanna butt in on anybody else's off topic. I was just wondering about the MPAA rating for this movie and any information that pertains to it.

[joefsas]

Don't mean to sound like the usual 'use the search function' guy but i'm pretty sure there is already a topic on this :)

[Refractive Reflections]

This thread has it here :) : http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=42696

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

This thread has it here :) : http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=42696

*Whoa...shell shock..* Hate to sound like a dork but I don't really know how they do it, but I think it's cool how you can just merge threads to save space on being repetitive unnecessarily....thanks whoever did that.

But yeah on the inside, I really want an R rated TMNT movie. Not so they can just go over the top with violence, but at least have the cushion to add a little more *ouch* to a few moves here and there...and more "human" if you will, reactions to whatever drama may unfold. I know that would totally leave the kids out who I feel would be most important (ethically and from a financial standpoint) as far as an audience goes as it's always been.

Movies like Ong-Bak and The Protector come to mind when I envision a good turtle movie (action/violence-wise). First of all, it was great just from watching the Muay Thai technique being shown in action like that. So, since the turtles are ninja, and practice ninjutsu, I would like to see that technique really shown in action. That along with the way the fx were like when Tony Jaa did some of his joint locks to really make you cringe.