Usagi Yojimbo, Bebop & Rocksteady will debut in Season 3. How excited are you?

[Shark_Blade]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1228984&postcount=2152

Additionally, mutants known from the comics and old television show will return, including fan-favorites Bebop, Rocksteady, and Usagi Yojimbo. This solitary statement is rife with possibility, so let’s dive in and start figuring out what could be happening in Season Three

I'm super excited!!! :D

[CyberCubed]

I'm still wondering how they worked out a deal with Stan Sakai. His wife is ill and he's stopped writing the Usagi comic as its been on a hiatus for a while.

I wonder what prompted him to license Usagi to Nick? Perhaps hefty royalties?

[Powder]

This didn't need it's own thread, especially considering it seems not to be officially confirmed.

[Shark_Blade]

Is the tmnt blog not official enough? http://www.******************************/blog/guess-whos-back-details-nicks-ninja-turtles-season-3/

Weird the blog's censored.. any reason why?

I'm still wondering how they worked out a deal with Stan Sakai. His wife is ill and he's stopped writing the Usagi comic as its been on a hiatus for a while.

I wonder what prompted him to license Usagi to Nick? Perhaps hefty royalties?
Maybe they worked a deal with him before his wife fell ill. I do hope she recovers soon. :(

[Jester]

Is the tmnt blog not official enough? http://www.******************************/blog/guess-whos-back-details-nicks-ninja-turtles-season-3/

Weird the blog's censored.. any reason why?
You mean the official blog, that the forum itself doesn't want to link too?

[Powder]

Yeah, that blog is run by a fan... One who, if I'm not mistaken, used to throw fits here all the time (if I'm thinking of the wrong guy, my apologies, though I doubt they'll see this).

[Shark_Blade]

You mean the official blog, that the forum itself doesn't want to link too?

I think so. Here's the link

On it: http://www.teenage mutantninjaturtles.com/blog/guess-whos-back-details-nicks-ninja-turtles-season-3/

[Jester]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.com is not the official fan site and is not affiliated with Viacom, Nickelodeon, or any companies associated with producing or publishing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.So this is a thing...

[Andrew NDB]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1228984&postcount=2152



I'm super excited!!! :D

I called this months and months and months ago. Is anyone honestly the least bit surprised?

Though Ciro is a pretty clever guy. While he may give people Bebop and Rocksteady to shut them up... it might not be the Bebop and Rocksteady people expect... or even want.

[Shark_Blade]

So this is a thing...So it uses the official name domain... but not affiliated to tmnt officially whatsoever.

Huh. Where the heck did they get the news from then?

I called this months and months and months ago. Is anyone honestly the least bit surprised?

Though Ciro is a pretty clever guy. While he may give people Bebop and Rocksteady to shut them up... it might not be the Bebop and Rocksteady people expect... or even want.
I hope it is legit, I'm happy for the guys return. :D

[Coola Yagami]

I called this months and months and months ago. Is anyone honestly the least bit surprised?

Though Ciro is a pretty clever guy. While he may give people Bebop and Rocksteady to shut them up... it might not be the Bebop and Rocksteady people expect... or even want.

Or what Cybercubed wants anyway.

[Shark_Blade]

Of course they won't be exactly the same personality-wise or appearance-wise. All the cast: turtles, Splinter, April, Shredder, Kraang etc doesn't look/act the same.

[Eiko]

Don't know why do we really need them.
There is enough mutant's in the show already if people want Bebop and Rocksteady why not just go watch the old toon or read the IDW Turtles.

[snake]

Don't know why do we really need them.
There is enough mutant's in the show already if people want Bebop and Rocksteady why not just go watch the old toon or read the IDW Turtles.

Becuase we can never have enough characters, especially mutants.

[BabyTurtles]

coolio :3

though....I hope they don't bring back to many old characters...I kinda wanted them to make new ones.

either way~ I'm excited to see how Usagi will look like in this show ^_^ probably as cute as the turtles~

[CyberCubed]

Don't know why do we really need them.
There is enough mutant's in the show already if people want Bebop and Rocksteady why not just go watch the old toon or read the IDW Turtles.

Most of the mutants in this show are bland monsters who don't even speak.

Bebop and Rocksteady are actual characters. I'm also not so sure they'll work for Shredder like Rahzar/Fishface. They could take over the Purple Dragon gang instead.

[BabyTurtles]

Most of the mutants in this show are bland monsters who don't even speak.

Bebop and Rocksteady are actual characters. I'm also not so sure they'll work for Shredder like Rahzar/Fishface. They could take over the Purple Dragon gang instead.

that'd be cool~ Maybe get a few more purple dragon members while they're at it *_*

I want to see a whole stadium of purple dragon thugs! but I know that probably won't happen because of CGI limitations T^T

[Huzzah]

Or maybe there will be a full blown crossover with the 87 toon, and since we know characters that crossover take on the appearance of the universe they appear in (the Kraang Worm) Bebop and Rocksteady end up getting transported to the Nick Toon 'verse. Ergo, fans get the real Bebop and Rocksteady who likely either join up with Shredder with Rahzar and Fish-Face joining Karai or Karai recruits Bebop and Rocksteady as her muscle, because we all know she'll part ways with Shredder and be her own little enemy clique, albeit one with a slight truce with the Turtles.

[CyberCubed]

The toy sketches people saw has Nick's version of Bebop/Rocksteady have tribal markings on them, which I assume is war paint you see Africans or Native Americans put on their body.

[Ninjinister]

I called this months and months and months ago. Is anyone honestly the least bit surprised?

Though Ciro is a pretty clever guy. While he may give people Bebop and Rocksteady to shut them up... it might not be the Bebop and Rocksteady people expect... or even want.

B&R were pretty much confirmed months ago. Not a solid confirmation, but more-so than some fan site.

So it uses the official name domain... but not affiliated to tmnt officially whatsoever.

Huh. Where the heck did they get the news from then?


I hope it is legit, I'm happy for the guys return. :D

We know B&R are coming back. It's Usagi's potential return that's up in the air. But yeah, that site not only is fan-made (registered to some guy named "Firas Hajjar" outta Michigan, and the site's Facebook and Twitter sites specifically say "fan page" in them), but that article still says it's a rumor at this time.

[Roseangelo]

But yeah, that site not only is fan-made (registered to some guy named "Firas Hajjar" outta Michigan, and the site's Facebook and Twitter sites specifically say "fan page" in them), but that article still says it's a rumor at this time.

That site is just to help that guy sell t-shirts, so calling it a fan site is a bit of a stretch. He actually tried to buy Ninja Pizza from me a couple years ago.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Honestly, this show is doing fine without them.

[Candy Kappa]

So this thread was created with nothing new information or anything?

R&B was well established with the UK toy fair report, and nothing new on whether or. It Usagi is going to happen in the new show. Thanks for being a let-down with a misleading title.

[Shark_Blade]

So this thread was created with nothing new information or anything?

R&B was well established with the UK toy fair report, and nothing new on whether or. It Usagi is going to happen in the new show. Thanks for being a let-down with a misleading title.
It's new to me.

Don't like it? Move along. :tcool:

[Technogeek29]

Great the Safari twins are back.:trolleye:
Not that excited to see another thing from the OT in this show. My favorite concepts of this show are its original idea's except mutating Bradford. But whatever

[ZariusTwo]

Great the Safari twins are back.:trolleye:
Not that excited to see another thing from the OT in this show. My favorite concepts of this show are its original ideas

Yes, because Ice Cream Kitty is such an innovation:roll:

[Technogeek29]

Yes, because Ice Cream Kitty is such an innovation:roll:

Didn't say everyone of their original concepts were good.:lol:

[CyberCubed]

So why hasn't anyone contacted Stan Sakai to ask him if Usagi is appearing on the Nick show? If he gives a blatant, "No" then we'll no this is false.

[Huzzah]

There's never been anything like Ice Cream Kitty before, so that it pretty innovative if you ask me...but then again the original figures had a guy who attempted to bake himself into a pizza...so a food/animal (the animal being a human of course) hybrid isn't unprecedented...

[Powder]

Yes, because Ice Cream Kitty is such an innovation:roll:

We get it. The OT gets you off and everything else is flawed. Go away.

[raph27]

I watched Wormquake again today. Does anybody else think Usagi cut off Tiger Claw's tail?

Or has this been said a million times already and I didn't read it? :lol:

[BabyTurtles]

I watched Wormquake again today. Does anybody else think Usagi cut off Tiger Claw's tail?

Or has this been said a million times already and I didn't read it? :lol:

not a million times :D lol

but yea~ Usagi does have a katana so I'd say it's very likely that he cut Tiger Claws' tail.

[zaktheneutrino]

With Tiger Claw and the mentioning of Japan recently, I can totally see Usagi making an appearance. I loved the episodes in the 2k3 cartoon in which he was featured in. Season 2 has been solid so far and I have been very happy with how the characters have been used since the beginning of this series. The more characters, the merrier. I trust Nick will continue shelling out great story lines and using the characters appropriately. Off the top of my head, there is not a reboot of a character that I have been unsatisfied with.

[BubblyShell22]

If Usagi appears, that'll be awesome. I've always liked him, so I think that'll be great. I don't mind Bebop and Rocksteady coming back, though I think it would be cool to make them Purple Dragon members instead of Shredder's henchmen.

And, Cubed, I think Stan's more concerned with his wife's illness so he has enough to think about right now.

[Metalwolf]

So why hasn't anyone contacted Stan Sakai to ask him if Usagi is appearing on the Nick show? If he gives a blatant, "No" then we'll no this is false.They did, the picture of his response is in the main Season 2 thread.

Usagi is not appearing in the Nick show.

[Candy Kappa]

R&B was solidly confirmed back in late January with reports about their action figure toy concept designs, and now Stan Sakai debunking the Usagi rumor.

[Metalwolf]

R&B was solidly confirmed back in late January with reports about their action figure toy concept designs, and now Stan Sakai debunking the Usagi rumor.Yes, and I wonder how they will appear? It will sure be fun to see, maybe they are two dudes that the Kraang mutated in Africa. :D

[CyberCubed]

Yes, and I wonder how they will appear? It will sure be fun to see, maybe they are two dudes that the Kraang mutated in Africa. :D

Uh, no. They better be two American street punks. One is black and the other is white.

[Candy Kappa]

What if Bebop's Mohawk is magenta instead of purple.


THE HORROR!

[Huzzah]

Magenta?! No! Just no! That would be the worst thing EVER!

(sarcasm meter Turned up to 11)

[snake]

Uh, no. They better be two American street punks. One is black and the other is white.

.............Why does it matter?

[Huzzah]

^ Political correctness

[snake]

^ Political correctness

No I meant that they absolutely have to be black and white according to cubed'.

[Jeff]

i've said this in the flaming carrot thread, but i dont see any characters that viacom doesnt own appearing in this series.

[zaktheneutrino]

If Usagi appears, that'll be awesome. I've always liked him, so I think that'll be great. I don't mind Bebop and Rocksteady coming back, though I think it would be cool to make them Purple Dragon members instead of Shredder's henchmen.

And, Cubed, I think Stan's more concerned with his wife's illness so he has enough to think about right now.

I'd like that too if they were Purple Dragons! Their gang in the OT, before they mutated, was based on the Purple Dragons so I'd say it's not a farfetched idea.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

What if Bebop's Mohawk is magenta instead of purple.


THE HORROR!
Hahahaha, that's hilarious.

Anyway, if that TMNT fan site guy cooked up the Usagi 'fact' for fun or site hits (which all evidence points to), that is really...really disappointing. I've commented on his site, asking where he got this so called fact, and am waiting for an answer. But if anyone would know if Usagi's in the show, it's Stan Sakai.

[BubblyShell22]

I'm disappointed that Usagi isn't appearing and that this guy got his so called "facts" wrong.

And I don't give a sh*t what color the mohawk is. As long as they're in the show, it's all good to me.

[CyberCubed]

Since this is proven false this thread should be locked.

We already knew about rocksteady and bebop anyway.

[shredder orokusaki]

There was no reason for this thread to be created. Bebop and Rocksteady were already confirmed and people posted about then on official season 2 thread.

[Warboss74]

Stan Sakai said Usagi wasn't going to appear in the Nick show at a panel at a recent con in Baltimore. (I think kt was in January because thdy had copies of the Usagi Yojimbo tribute book available) The video is up on YouTube.

Mr. Sakai is still doing Usagi, but he put the book on hiatus to do 47 Ronin. He's got a five part Usagi mini-series titled Senso that's coming out over the summer before returning to the main Usagi book.

[Metalwolf]

Uh, no. They better be two American street punks. One is black and the other is white.What if they're both black? They could be two mutated Africans, and the markings are from their clan/tribe.

[CyberCubed]

What if they're both black? They could be two mutated Africans, and the markings are from their clan/tribe.

No, I like it that Rocksteady was white and Bebop was black. Back in the 80's it showed that white and black people can be friends. I realize that's not a big deal now though.

[Allio]

No, I like it that Rocksteady was white and Bebop was black. Back in the 80's it showed that white and black people can be friends. I realize that's not a big deal now though.

BUT MUH eighties

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Okay, now that we know that Usagi isn't confirmed, where else does it say that R&B are confirmed? Because if there is no official source, I refuse to believe it.

[TigerClaw]

I think Usagi deserves his own series, What they should do is bring him into an episode of the Nick series, And then create a spinoff series with Usagi Yojimbo.

[Candy Kappa]

where else does it say that R&B are confirmed? Because if there is no official source, I refuse to believe it.

R&B gets Action figures released in the Nickelodeon toy line, as reported from the UK Toy fair thread.

[Ninjinister]

R&B gets Action figures released in the Nickelodeon toy line, as reported from the UK Toy fair thread.

Plus that one dude found them in his work computer a long, long time ago as figures. We found out about Rahzar, Robotic Foot Soldier, the LARP Turtles, Biotroid, and a whole heck of a lot more before we even knew they were showing up in-show.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

R&B gets Action figures released in the Nickelodeon toy line, as reported from the UK Toy fair thread.

Those are rereleases of the toy line based on the 80s toon. I need a link or a picture of some sort.

[Ninjinister]

Those are rereleases of the toy line based on the 80s toon. I need a link or a picture of some sort.

No they're not.

[Discogod]

Those are rereleases of the toy line based on the 80s toon. I need a link or a picture of some sort.

No they're not.

I've seen the new Nick Bebop & Rocksteady, mock-ups were on display at UK Toy Fair. I know I'm not an official source, but you'll have to take my word for it.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah, I just saw some new toys on R&B, my mistake. However, I think those were freshly new toys based on the 80s toon that they released in 2013. Do you think you can show me at least one image of the new toys that you're talking about?

[Discogod]

Yeah, I just saw some new toys on R&B, my mistake. However, I think those were freshly new toys based on the 80s toon that they released in 2013. Do you think you can show me at least one image of the new toys that you're talking about?

No, I don't have any images. Photography was banned and I wasn't going to risk getting thrown out of the fair trying to sneak a pic, and they're not in the catalogue.

From my original post in the UK TF thread:

Bebop & Rocksteady were my favourite reveals. They've been given a fairly major update, but they're still instantly recognizable. They look a lot meaner, more feral and "tribal", with markings over their bodies. Bebop still has his signature mohawk & shades, Rocksteady his camo pants. I think you guys will be very divided on them, but I loved them.

[CyberCubed]

I just wish we got confirmation they were humans and Bebop was black. But since Bebop keeps his Mohawk and shades obviously he had to be human prior right? And Bebop's type of shades are mostly black fashion. I remember seeing many black rappers wearing shades similar to Bebop.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

On the contrary, I wouldn't mind a complete rehaul of the characters since all of the previous villians received massive changes as well. I don't want this to be a carbon copy of the 80s toon where the two get no changes at all because that will just go into the whole identity issue that I have with this show. I would like to see a massive redesign and personality to Rocksteady and Bebop. They could end up with cool designs like Rahzar and some intellectual personality to them. And I definitely do not want to see them work for the Shredder.

[Discogod]

And Bebop's type of shades are mostly black fashion. I remember seeing many black rappers wearing shades similar to Bebop.

I don't know if you are actually racist, or just ignorant, but you really need to stop posting sh*t like this. All you're doing is making a rod for your own back.

[Ninjinister]

I just wish we got confirmation they were humans and Bebop was black. But since Bebop keeps his Mohawk and shades obviously he had to be human prior right? And Bebop's type of shades are mostly black fashion. I remember seeing many black rappers wearing shades similar to Bebop.

You are literally the only person that cares about this. This includes Bebop himself.

[Allio]

I don't know if you are actually racist, or just ignorant

I'm going to say yes to both

[Lou 500]

Yes, because Ice Cream Kitty is such an innovation:roll:

Still more entertaining than token dumb characters whose personalities revolve around being incompetent.

[snake]

No, I like it that Rocksteady was white and Bebop was black. Back in the 80's it showed that white and black people can be friends. I realize that's not a big deal now though.

Do we really need Bebop and Rocksteady to be black and white to display that
two different races can be friends? I honestly don't care what race they are, aslong as we get cool characters.

[CyberCubed]

It's rather obvious Bebop and Rocksteady were based on 80's era street punks. Bebop's style of dress wasn't uncommon back then. Black guy with shades and a mohawk.

[NinjaPug]

We're not in the 80s anymore. They would look dated if they kept their original look.

[CyberCubed]

We're not in the 80s anymore. They would look dated if they kept their original look.

IDW kept most of their original look, only difference is they gave Rocksteady a hat. Since we know Bebop keeps the shades and purple mohawk, that's already the most iconic part of his look. Just as long as he's black and has street urban clothes I won't mind.

[Metalwolf]

IDW kept most of their original look, only difference is they gave Rocksteady a hat. Since we know Bebop keeps the shades and purple mohawk, that's already the most iconic part of his look. Just as long as he's black and has street urban clothes I won't mind.But... what if Bebop isn't black? Or what if he's white or both he and Rocksteady are mutated from animals? I know you keep insisting that they be a certain way, but what will you do if they aren't?

This show isn't totally following rules from it's past incarnations, and it's always a possibility that these guys might not be mutated humans, but mutated animals just like the Turtles.

[CyberCubed]

Bebop and Rocksteady should be what they are. Their characters were humans, not filthy animals.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

And yet you don't seem to mind Baxter being mutated into a fly whereas in the original comics, he wasn't? Nor do you seem to mind that Rahzar was originally a human as opposed to being mutated from a standard dog.

[Metalwolf]

For me personally, I'd actually love it if Bebop and Rocksteady were mutated from regular animals. It would be different, and it would show that this show really plays by it's own rules.

Plus their styles would reflect their own personal likes, and not end up simply being what they wore when they got turned (when they were human in previous incarnations.)

[CyberCubed]

When mutants were humans prior it gives them more personality and backstory. Imagine if Fishface and Dogpound were just filthy zoo animals instead of being human? They would be more one-dimensional.

Bebop and Rocksteady are characters even as mutants. When I see them as mutants I always imagine them as the same street punks they were.

My guess is we'll see Bebop and Rocksteady join the Purple Dragon gang as humans. They'll get noticed by Fishface and they'll volunteer to become mutants like Shredder. Remember in every incarnation Bebop/Rocksteady actually LIKE being mutants, unlike every other human.

[Metalwolf]

When mutants were humans prior it gives them more personality and backstory. Imagine if Fishface and Dogpound were just filthy zoo animals instead of being human? They would be more one-dimensional.
But they WERE one dimensional even as mutated humans. Their main premise (besides looking like street punks) was on how dumb they were. Only in the beginning were they shown to have some decent level of intelligence, and that got less and less as the series progressed.

Even in the Turtles Forever (which I hate with a blinding passion) their main 'joke' was on how stupid they were.

I think that if they were animals, then it might allow Nick to get away from that negative trope, because it won't be the Fred Wolf R and B, but their own characters.

[blindturtle02]

But they WERE one dimensional even as mutated humans. Their main premise (besides looking like street punks) was on how dumb they were. Only in the beginning were they shown to have some decent level of intelligence, and that got less and less as the series progressed.

Even in the Turtles Forever (which I hate with a blinding passion) their main 'joke' was on how stupid they were.

I think that if they were animals, then it might allow Nick to get away from that negative trope, because it won't be the Fred Wolf R and B, but their own characters.

I'd be ok with them having different origins too. Those tribal markings have me wondering about that quite allot, actually. I'd love to see them a bit meaner as well but ya never know what is in store. As for how excited I am about B and R's showing up... I've loved TMNT since around 1990 or so and B and R were two of my earliest figs. They remain two of my fav baddies of all time, so needless to say I'm pretty pumped.

[alliance]

Usagi is in???????? YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Usagi is in???????? YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, some TMNT fan site said out of nowhere that Usagi would be in Season 3, but then Stan Sakai (the creator of Usagi Yojimbo) later said that wasn't true.

Yeah, I was really excited when I heard this too.

[alliance]

Sorry, some TMNT fan site said out of nowhere that Usagi would be in Season 3, but then Stan Sakai (the creator of Usagi Yojimbo) later said that wasn't true.

Yeah, I was really excited when I heard this too.

GOD F*CKEN DAMNIT i just read the entire thread, the as*hole who posted this should be banned for 10 lifetimes

[LivingMutagen]

GOD F*CKEN DAMNIT i just read the entire thread, the as*hole who posted this should be banned for 10 lifetimes

Yes, quite :trolleye:

[Metalwolf]

I'd be ok with them having different origins too. Those tribal markings have me wondering about that quite allot, actually. I'd love to see them a bit meaner as well but ya never know what is in store. As for how excited I am about B and R's showing up... I've loved TMNT since around 1990 or so and B and R were two of my earliest figs. They remain two of my fav baddies of all time, so needless to say I'm pretty pumped.Those tribal markings have me wondering too. I wonder if it means they are from Africa? That would be kind of cool, and also avoids the very attention-getting attempt at getting live animals from a zoo.

I also lolled at Cubed's stipulation that Bebop and Rocksteady don't mutate from 'dirty animals,' yet the Turtles by that very same reasoning would be considered 'dirty animals.' :D

[blindturtle02]

Those tribal markings have me wondering too. I wonder if it means they are from Africa? That would be kind of cool, and also avoids the very attention-getting attempt at getting live animals from a zoo.

I also lolled at Cubed's stipulation that Bebop and Rocksteady don't mutate from 'dirty animals,' yet the Turtles by that very same reasoning would be considered 'dirty animals.' :D

Nice speculations there. It would make sense if those animals were shipped over to the states specifically for Shredder's purposes. We do know he's got a buddy in weapons dealing so I imagine ol Steranko could also smuggle animals or whatever Shredder wanted as long as money changed hands. The B and R animal origins don't really bother me. Ciro has mentioned more than once that they're not trying to completely rehash the OT series. Sure, some elements are similar, but I like the originality the team is putting into this project. I'd also be ok with them being humans in the beginning because I'd like to see more of the inner workings of the Purple Dragon gang if they turn out to be members. If they were human to begin with, then mutated, it'd also be interesting to see them upgraded even further similar to the way Baxter did in 2k3. I had a dream involving them failing too many times, thus Baxter or Shredder making them cybernetic with a similar look to the clones from the OT. That'd probably be too dark for this show, but I loved Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop's design. Seriously doubt the writers would be crazy enough to do something like that, but I'd watch it. It'd be cool if they kept their intelegence and individuality if by some small chance this were to happen.

[rodster6]

I'm hoping for a more threatening and intimidating Rocksteady and Bebop. Be great to see Yojimbo too.