View Full Version : Official Episode Discussion S2 #17 "Newtralized!"
Machias Banshee
05-10-2014, 10:13 PM
http://vimeo.com/94534595
Okay, so it's been an Extremely busy couple of weeks - but we got a new episode coming up in just a couple hours, so let's get started here, shall we?
So, the city is full of mutants and they're catching wind of just who caused their changes. And some aren't hiding in the shadows anymore...
Not that they're teaming up with the turtles against a common enemy. None of this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" nonsense. With hair-trigger tempers and big weapons, to paraphrase Shakespeare, Revenge acquaints a man with some Really Strange bedfellows...
WILL THE NEUTRALIZER REVEAL MORE ABOUT HIS PAST?!
WILL RAPHAEL AND SLASH MAKE AMENDS FOR THEIR PAST AGGRESSIONS?!
WILL I STAY AWake Long enough to finish this thre....
*Zzzz......*
(Stay tuned!)
ninja-zero
05-10-2014, 10:53 PM
Is there gonna be episode online soon? Cause I'm desperate!
snake
05-10-2014, 11:01 PM
*Waiting for iTunes intensifies*
Zulithe
05-10-2014, 11:15 PM
*rubs his eyes*
I'm awake... I'm awake... just reading some comics till the episode goes up in a few hours
Is there gonna be episode online soon? Cause I'm desperate!
Yes, digital versions go on sale a few minutes after midnight. Having a Season Pass has nice advantages :)
Warhorse
05-10-2014, 11:59 PM
http://vimeo.com/94534595
Okay, so it's been an Extremely busy couple of weeks - but we got a new episode coming up in just a couple hours, so let's get started here, shall we?
So, the city is full of mutants and they're catching wind of just who caused their changes. And some aren't hiding in the shadows anymore...
Not that they're teaming up with the turtles against a common enemy. None of this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" nonsense. With hair-trigger tempers and big weapons, to paraphrase Shakespeare, Revenge acquaints a man with some Really Strange bedfellows...
WILL THE NEUTRALIZER REVEAL MORE ABOUT HIS PAST?!
WILL RAPHAEL AND SLASH MAKE AMENDS FOR THEIR PAST AGGRESSIONS?!
WILL I STAY AWake Long enough to finish this thre....
*Zzzz......*
(Stay tuned!)
Oh man, come on, you can stay up. It's Saturday night for crying out loud.
Vicky82
05-11-2014, 04:15 AM
Just seen the episode it was pretty good, will post thoughts later.
shredder orokusaki
05-11-2014, 08:15 AM
Pretty good episode. But it was just another kraang episode.
Ninjinister
05-11-2014, 08:40 AM
Oh man, come on, you can stay up. It's Saturday night for crying out loud.
Right. Because that means anything.
ninja-zero
05-11-2014, 08:59 AM
Somebody PLEASE post them up already!
CowabungaMikey
05-11-2014, 09:17 AM
It was great! I won't spoiler anything yet, but this episode contains the greatest Kraang-quote ever:
This is what is known as: AWESOME!
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 10:33 AM
Was a good episode, although it felt rather filler-ish. Nice to see Newtralizer and Slash back anyway.
Casey and Raph have their usual falling out moment.
Interesting to note Newtralizer said there are 10 dimensions. I wonder if that was just a throwaway line or if its actually important.
ObiWanFan4life
05-11-2014, 10:34 AM
Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?
Donatello19
05-11-2014, 10:35 AM
To me it was just an ok episode. Not as good as last week's, but it was cool to see Slash again. Funniest moment: Don putting the spyroach on Slash and giving him a thumbs up before getting punched in the face in slow motion :lol:
I did like the callbacks to "Wormquake!" "Mutagen Man Unleashed" "Operation: Breakout" and "Slash and Destroy".
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 10:36 AM
Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?
Uh...no. I don't see what much of a show would be about other than Slash fighting random things.
Vicky82
05-11-2014, 10:37 AM
It was a good episode it had lot's of fighting and action but sadly it's not in my top 5 but still in my top 10.
Kraang's New weapon looked similar to Krang's new weapon from the 80s episode Turtles on Trial.
Doesn't look like Newtralizer isn't going to be the turtles allie, We had a little bit of his backstory, he's insane and wants revenge against the Kraang because he was imprisioned and tortured (this is a kids show right) and he doesn't care who gets hurt.
Slash still got some good in him, Newtralizer just used him. He was concerned about the humans getting hurt, which shows he does care.
Slash decided to go solo which got Raph sad was a little heartbreaking.
Good moments
Cowabunga skate shop
Leo going alone while the others team up, which looks like Leo can look after himself (for now!).
The atmosphere when Leo is in the tunnels is so well-handled - it’s creepy and foreboding,
Raph vs Slash part 2 was short but was cool (did Raph pop his rib cage back in)
ICK Cameo - he seems to know what everyone wants from the freezer, he must have got good hearing.
Donnie saying to Mikey to stop eating the Kraang locations - Pac Man reference
The flashback - which explained how Slash and The Newtralizer met
Donnie got a new spy roach and was another flashback seeing how Donnie got the spy roach on to Slash.
Donnie's punch to the face in Slow mo looked brutal.
Donnie must have a army of spy roaches as it said spy roach 3 online on his T phone
Raph vs The Newtralizer was epic
Raph saving Slash's life
Casey saving the day
Funny moments
Mikey immatating the Kraang using it's head and Donnie facepalming using a Kraang hand
Mikey mimicking Donnie because Donnie reminded Mikey that he named the Newtralizer
Newtralizer sounded like a dolphin and trying to get his translator to work.
Donnie and Leo rolling their eyes when Casey said he invited himself
Kraang giving the thumbs up
Kraang Quote - 'This is what known as awesome' and 'Watch out for Kraang, Stupid Kraang' and 'Go to the direction known as this way'.
Newtralizer Quote - 'Rokka, Rokka, Rokka' I guess is a reference to Fozzie Bear from The Muppets who says 'Wacka, Wacka, Wacka'
snake
05-11-2014, 10:39 AM
I actually liked this one a bit more then last weeks. Slash was great, Newt was great, ICK was great, pretty much everything was great.
I loooooooooooved all those references to past episodes.
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 10:41 AM
I could have sworn Newtralizer's, "Rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other TV show, comic or movie?
Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?
Ninjinister
05-11-2014, 10:42 AM
Am I the only one hoping for Slash to get his own spin off show like Angel?
Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.
Vicky82
05-11-2014, 10:43 AM
I could have sworn Newtralizer's, "Rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other TV show, comic or movie?
Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?
Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",
ObiWanFan4life
05-11-2014, 10:43 AM
Uh...no. I don't see what much of a show would be about other than Slash fighting random things.
I know, I wasn't being serious. I would however like to see more of him and Newtralizer (not together) to break away from just fighting the kraang.
snake
05-11-2014, 10:43 AM
Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.
Nope, this angel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(1999_TV_series)
ObiWanFan4life
05-11-2014, 10:44 AM
Wait, when did she get her own show? She barely even showed up on 2K3 as it is.
I was referring to Angel from buffy, and again, it was just a joke.
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 10:47 AM
Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",
Ah that's what I was probably thinking of, thanks. I knew it sounded similar to something.
snake
05-11-2014, 10:47 AM
i could have sworn newtralizer's, "rocka, rocka rocka!" is from some other tv show, comic or movie?
Does anyone recognize that from somewhere?
rockarockarockarockarockarockarockarocka
The way he said it was hypnotizing.
Fozzie Bear from The Muppets but he says "Wacka, Wacka, Wacka",
http://31.media.tumblr.com/f0a8631dc241fbc5cc52091240e732d7/tumblr_mzel3kts1g1slbj5no1_500.gif"Wocka! Wocka!"
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 10:52 AM
Crappy, good to bad ratio is 1 good-2 bad episodes...
Honestly, I'm sure what to think of this episode.
I'll have to watch it again to see.
Rukitron
05-11-2014, 11:05 AM
Was a good episode, although it felt rather filler-ish. Nice to see Newtralizer and Slash back anyway.
Casey and Raph have their usual falling out moment.
Interesting to note Newtralizer said there are 10 dimensions. I wonder if that was just a throwaway line or if its actually important.
so 10 dimensions = ?
1. Dimension X
2. 2k12 world
3. 80s world
4. 2k3 world?
5. classic comic book world?
6. Usagi Yo-wait Sakai didn't want to : (
7. Fugitoid's?
8. wherever the battle nexus took place?
9. your guess is as good as mine
10.???
Well we know 3/10 supposed dimensions.
I wonder why Newtralizer says Rocka rocka rocka a lot. Also how a terminator 2 homage with a new good guy cockroach terminator would play?
Ninjawolf
05-11-2014, 11:06 AM
Does anyone else see the obvious parallels between Newt and Leatherhead? Newt is what LH might've became if Mikey didn't find him. And I actually do think He cared for Slash behind his insanity (he's pretty much a well intentioned extremist and not fully evil) but nice to see Slash has underwent a heel-face turn though...
blindturtle02
05-11-2014, 11:10 AM
Great to have fences mended between Raph and Slash. I was wondering when we were going to see that.
So after Metalhead Rewired, did Slash get re-captured by the Kraang to be freed by Newt or could this have happened immediatley following the skirmish at the Kraang prison in MHR? Did we see Slash leaving along with all the other mutants in said episode? If so, I guess Slash just can't stay out of jail. lol
That rocka rocka thing reminded me of Fozzie too. I wonder if Newt is a muppets fan. In all seriousness, it sounds more like some tribal chant. I can see a tun of his species cheering this while going into battle against the Kraang. Loving the Newtralizer after having seen this episode. His translator definitely gives him more personality.
Did anyone notice that Star Wars Slave I cannon sound while the guys were battling the Kraang in act 3? Pretty sure that was taken straight from Jango's pride and joy in Attack of The Clones. Not sure which gun that came from, but I heard it at least twice. May have been the Kraang weapon.
Loved Don's correcting Mikey pertaining to who really named the Newtralizer. "Actually, I named him." haha Mikey's mimicry got a chuckle out of me. And loving the ICK cameo. He's such a helpful little guy. Since cats sleep around 15 or so hrs a day, he must be doing quite alright in that fridge.
My favorite quote has to be,"Stupid Kraang." Liked the "awesome" bit as well, but love it when the Kraang get frustrated with each other. Now if only Kraang Prime would return. Bigbrain is certainly going to have a bone to pick with Newt and Slash after this debacle.
OrangeNinja1987
05-11-2014, 11:23 AM
This was a pretty good episode, but not one of my favorites. Mikey and the Kraang had some pretty funny lines and I loved the ICK cameo, but I've got to say my favorite part was when Donatello was slow-motion fighting with Slash and put the spy-roach on him right before being brutally punched in the face. That must have hurt bad.
I like Slash better as an antagonist but I'm okay with him on the turtles' side now. To me, it just felt a bit rushed the way he befriended Raphael again.
Overall: 7/10 :tgrin:
This interesting moving forward, being Slash is somewhat familiar with the Kraang Technology, I'm wondering if this mentioned episode when Raph gets possessed by a Kraang, if the others may need Slash's to help him?
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 11:40 AM
The flashback made no sense..... Newt rescued Slash from the Kraang.... so... did the Kraang re-capture them both before the episode we saw? Or was Slash re-captured by the Kraang after he got away before the episode we saw?
Ninjawolf
05-11-2014, 11:40 AM
Wrestling terms?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2795212/cm-punk-shock-o.gif
Hey it's a valid trope XD but yeah I don't think Newt's evi, just very revenge driven
The flashback made no sense..... Newt rescued Slash from the Kraang.... so... did the Kraang re-capture them both before the episode we saw? Or was Slash re-captured by the Kraang after he got away before the episode we saw?
I'd say the latter, because remember what the people on the show stated, despite what it may have looked like in "Metalhead Rewired", Newtralizer was not suppose to be one of the captives of the Kraang in that episode.
Donatello19
05-11-2014, 12:09 PM
Ah that's what I was probably thinking of, thanks. I knew it sounded similar to something.
I'm pretty sure Grimace from the old Mcdonald's commercials said something like it, too.
Zulithe
05-11-2014, 12:11 PM
I think it was close to as good as last week, i guess it depends on if you prefer a kraang centric or shredder & henchmen centric episode. While Lonely Mutation had a new transformation/charater, Newtralized expanded on newtralizer a ton more because he didn't speak in his debut episode.
It's interesting to me to see the gradation in the lengths some characters will go to fight the Kraang. The turtles, Slash and Newtralizer all have their own POV on how to go about it. I liked that about this episode.
Glad they addressed Casey's inexperience. There is no way he is on par with the turtles in being able to take on all these ninjas and aliens. Heck even April has had some formal trailing from Splinter (granted they really sped up her progression)... Casey is a tough kid but he has a lot to learn. I hope they continue to develop that.
When foes team up it always makes for a fun episode so definitely liked that. Kinda a shame that it didn't last longer, but it made for a pretty good arc in the ep.
A few of my highlights:
- lots of casey and raph interaction. love seeing them two on their own out fighting crime.
- "the kraang is getting their kraangs handed to them" :lol:
- don's headpiece, cool tech!
- leo detective work in the sewer. While Don may technically be the smart one, I feel detective fits Leo way better. Kind of reminds me of Obi Wan from Episode II a little, going around investigating clues. I want to see more of Leo doing stuff like that!
- anytime spike or newtralizer are fighting it just looks SO COOL. I thought Raph really shined here too, he got a lot of great fight sequences. Definitely a 'Raph' centric episode, one of the strongest for him too.
- loved the flashback of newt/slash meeting, very cool. newt's voice sounds great too
- when newt is examining the kraang plans... that panel that comes out of his arm, really cool looking design on that
- that kraang machine, wouldn't be surprised if we see another of those
- they re-used the dock set! was wondering when they'd go back there
- cockroack spy returns! foreshadowing... a 2nd roach mutation in the future?
If I had one complaint to make it would be that, while newtralizer has a cool voice and look to him, a part of me prefers that mysteriousness he had from his debut episode, he just felt more badass there. Like a means-business kind of bounty hunter. He almost seems like a different character now. "rackarackaracka!" (I'm sure that will be a hit with the kids! buzzbuzz!)
8 out of 10 for me
TurtleTitan97
05-11-2014, 12:17 PM
Awesome episode overall. Look forward to seeing more of the Newtralizer.:D
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 12:37 PM
I think its kind funny how the Kraang fail 90% of their missions yet apparently the Turtles still can't bring them all down for good.
fridaynightdestination
05-11-2014, 12:51 PM
Does this show want me to hate Raphael? Cause this is how you get me to hate Raphael.
Anyway, good episode overall! Even though this episode made me dislike Raphael for being such an a$$hole to Casey, it was cool overall. I liked seeing Slash actually helping the turtles, the final fight at the end was cool, and this is minor, but I liked Slash actually calling Donatello, "Donatello", it seems like everyone refers to the turtles as their shortened names (Leo, Mikey, Donnie, Raph) I can't even remember the last time their full names were said, even though it was just Donatello.
I give this episode a 7.5/10
I liked Slash actually calling Donatello, "Donatello"
I liked that as well, he's been using Raph's full name most of the time as well.
it seems like everyone refers to the turtles as their shortened names (Leo, Mikey, Donnie, Raph) I can't even remember the last time their full names were said, even though it was just Donatello.
I may be wrong, but doesn't Splinter only use their full names?
fridaynightdestination
05-11-2014, 01:02 PM
I liked that as well, he's been using Raph's full name most of the time as well.
I may be wrong, but doesn't Splinter only use their full names?
Ah I forgot about Slash calling Raphael by his full name, my mistake. :ohwell: But I thought Splinter also called them by their shortened names? I dunno, maybe I'm going deaf...
Ah I forgot about Slash calling Raphael by his full name, my mistake. :ohwell: But I thought Splinter also called them by their shortened names? I dunno, maybe I'm going deaf...
No worries ;)
That was a great episode, for me personally better than the previous episode.
I especially liked how much Casey has become part of the team. High fiving with the others (even Donatello) near the end, Raph being worried about his safety, and the others being annoyed/upset with Raph because he just let Casey walk away after their argument.
I really enjoyed the interaction between them.
It was great to see Slash again, as well as the Newtralizer, who seems to have been driven insane (at least to some extent) by the Kraang. Speaking of Kraang, they really need to upgrade their "Kraang bots" one day. They're just cannon fodder.
It's good to know Raph and Slash are on more friendlier terms now.
I especially liked how much Casey has become part of the team. High fiving with the others (even Donatello) near the end, Raph being worried about his safety, and the others being annoyed/upset with Raph because he just let Casey walk away after their argument.
I was a little puzzled by Raph's attitude towards Casey, he was really in his face...and that "I'm not people" comment. I can understand why some find Nick Raph a little douchey, but I'm sure that there's more to it than that. I hope they will explore it more in future episodes
Ninjawolf
05-11-2014, 01:23 PM
That was a great episode, for me personally a lot better than the previous episode.
I especially liked how much Casey has become part of the team. High fiving with the others (even Donatello) near the end, Raph being worried about his safety, and the others being annoyed/upset with Raph because he just let Casey walk away after their argument.
I really enjoyed the interaction between them.
It was great to see Slash again, as well as the Newtralizer, who seems to have been driven insane (at least to some extent) by the Kraang. Speaking of Kraang, they really need to upgrade their "Kraang bots" one day. They're just cannon fodder.
I thought it wax great how Casey rushed Slash to save Don, shows outside their 'rivalry' they do care for each other though Casey/April will be the dominant pairing as per tradition since they're a couple in 'The comics, 2k3, and the movies (are they together in the IDW comics?)
The Turtle Terminator
05-11-2014, 01:26 PM
This was in my opinion the worst of S2
That was a great episode, for me personally better than the previous episode.
I especially liked how much Casey has become part of the team. High fiving with the others (even Donatello) near the end, Raph being worried about his safety, and the others being annoyed/upset with Raph because he just let Casey walk away after their argument.
I really enjoyed the interaction between them.
It was great to see Slash again, as well as the Newtralizer, who seems to have been driven insane (at least to some extent) by the Kraang. Speaking of Kraang, they really need to upgrade their "Kraang bots" one day. They're just cannon fodder.
It's good to know Raph and Slash are on more friendlier terms now.
I don't see why that's a shock. Quite frankly even despite their relationships they have with April. Casey seems to have bonded with him slightly more than Raph. Hell, Casey did come to Donnie's defense when Slash laid him out.
The victory dance/stick trip in the previous episode seemed to me like just two buddies ribbing each other.
I was a little puzzled by Raph's attitude towards Casey, he was really in his face...and that "I'm not people" comment. I can understand why some find Nick Raph a little douchey, but I'm sure that there's more to it than that. I hope they will explore it more in future episodes
Personally I think Raph was just being frustrated. He's worried that one day he won't be able to save Casey in time if something goes wrong again. And Raph being Raph, he's showing his concerns in his own way.
He wants Casey as a teammate but also knows Casey isn't always able to keep up. They can both be stubborn and hot-headed, it seems it's their way of communicating.
Just my own interpretation, I could be way off.
snake
05-11-2014, 01:36 PM
This was in my opinion the worst of S2
Really? I loved it.
Personally I think Raph was just being frustrated. He's worried that one day he won't be able to save Casey in time if something goes wrong again. And Raph being Raph, he's showing his concerns in his own way
I was thinking that as well, and maybe also worried that his brother might end up getting hurt/being in danger because of Caseys recklessness. But again, I hope they will explore it more, as they did a little bit in "Slash and Destroy" and "TGTB and Casey Jones"
Donatello19
05-11-2014, 01:39 PM
To me it was just kinda boring. Slash was the only thing I really enjoyed...the rest was pretty much just another Kraang mission.
snake
05-11-2014, 01:40 PM
One thing I liked was that it confirmed Donatello has more then one Spyroach.
pannoni1
05-11-2014, 01:45 PM
A pretty good episode that recaps and extends some of the previous info set by Slash and Newt. The 10 dimensions was the most interesting fact, opening up not only what the Nickverse consists of, but possibly the other universes. One of those 10 dimensions is Dimension Z where Mr. Ogg was in the OT. It had a clear hierarchy from total villain (Krang), the anti-Hero (Newt), the good-turned traitor-turned good again (Slash), to the true heroes (TMNT). The fighting was also quite strong, especially combining the Turtles' weapons with a new machine by the Kraang. Ice Cream Kitty even makes a cameo during the opening Lair scene. Outside of the Cowabunga, this was closer in tone to a 4kids as opposed to an OT episode, with some good Nickisms in there, although like others said doesn't feel too different from some other Kraang plots and it doesn't break any new ground with their story. While the Kraang had the best comedy, the Turtles' was a bit flat in this episode, and the pinball scene just lacked excitement; at least use common pinball terminology.
Overall: 7.5/10
NinjaPug
05-11-2014, 01:47 PM
It was cool seeing Slash and Newtralizer again but I didn't really care for the episode.
I really hate the way they write Raph sometimes. This episode was one of those times.
Cool Star Wars references (if that's what they were. I've had SW on the brain a bunch recently) - the AT-AT like weapon of the Kraang and Casey bringing it down like Luke/Death Star in EP IV.
I thought it wax great how Casey rushed Slash to save Don, shows outside their 'rivalry' they do care for each other though Casey/April will be the dominant pairing as per tradition since they're a couple in 'The comics, 2k3, and the movies (are they together in the IDW comics?)
Yeah, I liked Casey coming to Don's rescue as well. Their relation has definitely become better after the events in Wormquake. There's still that rivalry between them, but it's more a "playful" kind of rivalry. (Don's victory dance and Casey swiping him) Before Wormquake their rivalry definitely more hostile.
I don't see why that's a shock. Quite frankly even despite their relationships they have with April. Casey seems to have bonded with him slightly more than Raph. Hell, Casey did come to Donnie's defense when Slash laid him out.
The victory dance/stick trip in the previous episode seemed to me like just two buddies ribbing each other.
Yeah, you're right. I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised, but they definitely came a long way. I'm glad their rivalry is more a playful kind of rivalry, I like how they've developed the relation between Casey and Don so far.
I was thinking that as well, and maybe also worried that his brother might end up getting hurt/being in danger because of Caseys recklessness. But again, I hope they will explore it more, as they did a little bit in "Slash and Destroy" and "TGTB and Casey Jones"
You make a good point and I agree. Raph might also be worried for his brothers, but I do think he knows at least his brothers are trained/skilled enough to save themselves if needed. I definiterly hope as well they explore this angle of Casey's/Raph's relationship more one day.
The turtles likely know they need to keep a closer eye on Casey, but also know that Casey can make his own unique contributions and that he's aware of the risks yet still wants to be part of their team.
It does remind me a bit of Leonardo/Casey in 2k3, as the series progressed Leonardo (subtly) became more protective of Casey, with Casey not being a ninja he was more "vulnerable" yet still was a valuable friend and addition to the team.
CyberCubed
05-11-2014, 02:15 PM
This episode was definitely good but I agree it came off a bit short of being great...probably because it felt rather filler-y and nothing plot-centric was moved along.
NoName999
05-11-2014, 02:15 PM
Now THIS is a good episode. Much better than the DnD episode. Even if it is just another "stop Kraang plot"
Also notice how the jokes were better here than in the campier episodes.
If there's one thing that bugs me, which is more of a problem of the show itself, was showing that the villain was still. I mean this is like what, the 7th time a villain "rose from the ashes" by the end of the episode. I know this is a kids' show, but the turtles can't be assed to spend 5 minutes looking for the body?
Vicky82
05-11-2014, 02:16 PM
Newtralized got a good review, 8.5
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/05/11/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-newtralized-review
Newtralized got a good review, 8.5
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/05/11/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-newtralized-review
Nice, great to know IGN (Max) liked the episode. Thanks for sharing.
Looking back, I think the main reason I liked this episode was because it had some nice character interaction. Raph and Casey, Raph and Slash, Slash and Newtralizer (I found it a nice touch that Slash does care about humans), Casey and the turtles in general, etc.
It was just enjoyable to watch which made me forget it was mainly a Kraang episode. (I usually don't like those) I even found the Kraang okay this time.
VaughnMichael
05-11-2014, 02:34 PM
I thought it was a pretty good episode even though I enjoyed last weeks more.
My favorite thing was that the episode focused more on Newtralizer & Slash more than the turtles and their close group.
I think that should happen more often as it's not really something we've seen in many of the TMNT shows.
But when they do they tend to be my favorite ones as I'm more of a secondary character lover.
The spy roach and the slow motion punch to the face was great.
Slash's good bye for now was touching and Newtralizer re-materializing was cool but I thought it would have malfunctioned and messed him up or something.
Oh and I really found Newtralizers Rockka Rockka Rockka laugh to so odd.
I could really see Slash going out on his own and finding other mutants and starting another group like the Mutanimals or something.
nimajneb
05-11-2014, 02:43 PM
I loved this episode, thought it was awesome, like others have said, great interaction between characters. Especially Casey and Raph, becoming a great character in this show.
I liked the end battle, reminded me a lot of the Cerberus battle in out of the shadows.
Slash is really starting to become a favourite of mine now, after only watching newtralizers first appearance ep the other day it was great to see him again whilst he was fresh in my memory.
Retro-Specs
05-11-2014, 02:43 PM
It was an enjoyable filler, really. Not much to progress the plot, besides learning more about the Newtralizer and tying up the strain between Raph (And the other turtles) and Slash. But it was entertaining. You had laughs with the odd moments like Mikey imitating Don about naming a character, and a few goofy moments with Casey (Not outdoing his annoying moments, really), and quite a few violent parts that provoke an "Oooo, that's gotta hurt".
So, good episode.
nimajneb
05-11-2014, 02:46 PM
I thought it wax great how Casey rushed Slash to save Don, shows outside their 'rivalry' they do care for each other though Casey/April will be the dominant pairing as per tradition since they're a couple in 'The comics, 2k3, and the movies (are they together in the IDW comics?)
In the IDW series they've only just got together after icy fall which is the best story of the run so far,
Why did Raphael want to fight Slash and Newtralizer? Why would he care that someone else it beating up the world destroying aliens?
I did like the callbacks to "Wormquake!" "Mutagen Man Unleashed" "Operation: Breakout" and "Slash and Destroy".And what would those be?
blindturtle02
05-11-2014, 02:52 PM
Nice, great to know IGN (Max) liked the episode. Thanks for sharing.
Looking back, I think the main reason I liked this episode was because it had some nice character interaction. Raph and Casey, Raph and Slash, Slash and Newtralizer (I found it a nice touch that Slash does care about humans), Casey and the turtles in general, etc.
It was just enjoyable to watch which made me forget it was mainly a Kraang episode. (I usually don't like those) I even found the Kraang okay this time.
I'm glad you guys pointed out Slash's conscience. That was something I wasn't really expecting from him, and it was a nice little surprise. I forgot to mention my loving Slash's character moments in this episode a few pages back. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite characters as well. Hoping we see allot more of him as the show progresses. I was also touched by the goodbye scene, as well as Slash calling Raph brother and Raph calling him Spike after his departure.
Why did Raphael want to fight Slash and Newtralizer? Why would he care that someone else it beating up the world destroying aliens?
Well, they were stealing plutonium
I'm glad you guys pointed out Slash's conscience. That was something I wasn't really expecting from him, and it was a nice little surprise. I forgot to mention my loving Slash's character moments in this episode a few pages back. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite characters as well. Hoping we see allot more of him as the show progresses. I was also touched by the goodbye scene, as well as Slash calling Raph brother and Raph calling him Spike after his departure.
I really like Slash as well, but that's not new. I was hoping that he'd stayed evil a little longer, but yeah the moment between him and Raph was quite touching. I wonder if his beef with the other Turtles is over now
It was an okay episode, and it was nice to see the Newtralizer again.
Btw, wasn't he supposed to became an ally?
TigerClaw
05-11-2014, 03:30 PM
Finally saw this episode, Thought it was pretty good, Finally good to see Slash coming to his senses in the end.
Danny Trejo was the voice of the Newtralizer, But you couldn't recognize him with all the voice modulation going on.
Btw, Whats up with Newtralizer yelling. "Rocka! Rocka! Rocka!" a lot
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 03:36 PM
It was cool seeing Slash and Newtralizer again but I didn't really care for the episode.
I really hate the way they write Raph sometimes. This episode was one of those times.
Cool Star Wars references (if that's what they were. I've had SW on the brain a bunch recently) - the AT-AT like weapon of the Kraang and Casey bringing it down like Luke/Death Star in EP IV.
AT-AT are those giant four legged robots that they fought on Hoth, you were thinking of AT-ST (Chicken walkers) that they fought on Endor, though i was reminded of ED209 while i was watching it...
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 04:12 PM
I really liked this episode XD I just love Casey.
It was very smart of him to wait until they needed help so he could look like a hero. XD nothing says "you really need me" like a heroic last minute save! :D
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 04:14 PM
I really liked this episode XD I just love Casey.
It was very smart of him to wait until they needed help so he could look like a hero. XD nothing says "you really need me" like a heroic last minute save! :D
Though that still doesen't change the fact that he was sudenly incompetent (Seriously, where did that come from, did he smoke some weed or something?)
He got almost killed like 5 times and they are sudenly cool with leting him back in the team? i don't get this...
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 04:29 PM
Though that still doesen't change the fact that he was sudenly incompetent (Seriously, where did that come from, did he smoke some weed or something?)
He got almost killed like 5 times and they are sudenly cool with leting him back in the team? i don't get this...
he's not incompetent he's just not as graceful as the turtles XD
to tell you the truth I kinda had a problem with how competent he was before, so I'm glad they made him a little clumsy, but he's still tough and not a bad shot either!
TigerClaw
05-11-2014, 04:39 PM
Black Nerd's review
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Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 04:52 PM
Black Nerd's review
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I'm kinda confused as to why we're supposed to care what this guy thinks? It seems lately people just shove his channel on here any time there's a new episode or news on the TMNT movie. It would make more sense if he was a member or something...
Anyways good episode, good to see Slash isn't all bad, he just wants to take the bad guys down in ways the Turtles can't since they're kid's heroes and all. Did not like the rokka rokka rokka garbage. It didn't fit in with the savage growling from the last episode. I don't think he ever used that same growl once,
TigerClaw
05-11-2014, 04:53 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we're supposed to care what this guy thinks? It seems lately people just shove his channel on here any time there's a new episode or news on the TMNT movie. It would make more sense if he was a member or something...
Anyways good episode, good to see Slash isn't all bad, he just wants to take the bad guys down in ways the Turtles can't since they're kid's heroes and all. Did not like the rokka rokka rokka garbage. It didn't fit in with the savage growling from the last episode. I don't think he ever used that same growl once,
Cause hes a TMNT fan as much as we are, Besides, others have posted links to reviews of this episode, So it seems fair to post his also.
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 04:55 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we're supposed to care what this guy thinks? It seems lately people just shove his channel on here any time there's a new episode or news on the TMNT movie. It would make more sense if he was a member or something...
IDK, I like hearing his thoughts ^_^ it's fun to hear people's opinions.
at least to me XD
TigerClaw
05-11-2014, 04:57 PM
IDK, I like hearing his thoughts ^_^ it's fun to hear people's opinions.
at least to me XD
Yeah, I like hearing other people's opinions about the episodes.
Jon_Talbain
05-11-2014, 05:05 PM
I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I thought I would. I was very excited to see both Slash and the Newtralizer again. However, with this episode coming off as a filler, it wasn't nearly as good as it could have been. And the Newtralizer seems different than when he was first introduced. It isn't just because he speaks now, something just seemed off.
There were parts I still enjoyed. I was surprised to see Slash care about innocent people. It makes it seem even more that Slash has Venom's type of thought process. Slash does want to protect the innocent, but he wants to deal his own type of justice to the bad guys. It was great to see Raph save Slash and Slash acknowledged it, then called Raph his brother. It still would have been cool to see Slash go back to the lair with the other turtles though.
I can just see the awkward moment if Slash tried to apologize to Leo and the others. Or Slash asks Mikey to teach him how to play a video game. But hopefully there will be many more episodes with Slash in it. Also, did something happen to Newtralizer at the end? Was it just showing him come back, or did he get changed in some way? And anytime I see a Kraang episode, I never see them as an actual threat. The Kraang just keep getting obliterated.
NinjaPug
05-11-2014, 05:10 PM
AT-AT are those giant four legged robots that they fought on Hoth, you were thinking of AT-ST (Chicken walkers) that they fought on Endor, though i was reminded of ED209 while i was watching it...
That's right. My bad. Btw, I'm enjoying your recent SW signature pictures.
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 05:12 PM
The only thing I didn't like about the episode was how the other turtles (Mikey, Don, Leo) seemed fine around Slash. (and to an extent even Raph)
If Slash beat me to an inch of my life then I'd be avoiding him!! Or at least have my weapon in hand whenever he's around.
I mean one does not simply forget a brutal beat down.
I feel like it downplays Slash and Destroy a bit.
BubblyShell22
05-11-2014, 05:17 PM
Well, Slash was helping out, so they decided not to worry about it. I loved this episode though. Slash was awesome, and it was nice seeing that he does care about people and wanting to help them out and not hurt them unlike Newtralizer. I know that Newt wants to get revenge on the Kraang, so it makes me curious as to his origin. Was he mutated into a newt and was a human before, or was he a regular newt sort of like how LH was a regular croc? Loved seeing how Slash and Newt met and loved the bit at the end. I'm kind of glad Slash didn't go with the guys and wants to do his own thing. Yeah, Raph was a bit of a jerk to Casey, but that's to be expected because he doesn't want his friend to get hurt. Overall, a pretty good ep. Loved the Cowabunga shop, the spyroach, the Kraang dialogue, and the fact that Mikey's still bitter about Donnie naming Newt. Can't wait for next week.
raphmike
05-11-2014, 05:19 PM
did that episode very much like star wars? i really like so far 10/10
i like
slash goodside with turtles
newtralized really good voice
star wars references
mikey play game just like pac-man.
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 05:22 PM
That's right. My bad. Btw, I'm enjoying your recent SW signature pictures.
Awesome, thanks. I downloaded Ralph Mcquarrie's Star Wars artwork book and it really got me back in the Star Wars mood...
blindturtle02
05-11-2014, 05:32 PM
Finally saw this episode, Thought it was pretty good, Finally good to see Slash coming to his senses in the end.
Danny Trejo was the voice of the Newtralizer, But you couldn't recognize him with all the voice modulation going on.
Btw, Whats up with Newtralizer yelling. "Rocka! Rocka! Rocka!" a lot
TC, I'm thinking the rocka rocka thing has something to do with his species language. Not sure if it's supposed to be a tribal battle cry or what. I sort of dug it, although as others have said, it reminds me of Fozzie. I'm not sure if he's the last of his kind, but I can imagine thousands of these big brutes chanting this while pumping themselves up to battle the Kraang, or perhaps they do this while they're in battle since Newt busted it out a few times. I think it's safe to say he's an alien now and not a mutant, so I'd like to think there are more of his kind out there in those other dimensions somewhere. Unless of course the Kraang did away with the majority of his species. Who knows at this point? Fun to speculate though. I say alien because the Kraang have identified him as such more than once. Hey, there are alien dinosaurs in other incarnations. Why not alien newts or whatever? haha If he's just an every day mutant, that's cool too. Wonder where he got that translator and all his hardware?
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 05:51 PM
So...in other words, Slash (which could have been the most interesting villain of the whole show since he knows where they live, knows the family better than any of the other villains, almost murdered Mikey about 3 or 4 times in Slash & Destroy, gave them one of the worst beat downs that they ever had...at least since they first met Shredder) and all of the interesting stuff that you could have written for him as a villain (like being a Dark Mirror version of Raphael, or who Raph would/could be without his brothers) has pretty much been completely wasted since he's pretty much A-OK with them now.
And in just the Second show that he was in (not counting the tiny appearance he made in one of the previous episodes).
Great job writing team! Now let's move on to the Monster Pizzas show! :ohwell: I mean, Seriously? Really?
Even for a kids show, I have to say that they Really, Really dropped the ball on that. Big Time.
victory_angel
05-11-2014, 05:52 PM
And what would those be?
"Wormquake!"-Mention of Casey getting eaten by a giant worm, and the mini portal that the Kraang use to bring out the walker.
"Good, Bad, Casey Jones"- Casey mentioning saving Raph's life. Casey pushes Raph out from in front of an oncoming t
"Operation: Breakout"-Neutralizer and his anger against the Kraang, The fact Donnie came up with the name of Newtralizer and Mikey was ticked off Donnie named him.
"Slash and Destroy"- Slash obviously, also mention of Donnie's unseen beat down.
So...in other words, Slash (which could have been the most interesting villain of the whole show since he knows where they live, knows the family better than any of the other villains, almost murdered Mikey about 3 or 4 times in Slash & Destroy, gave them one of the worst beat downs that they ever had...at least since they first met Shredder) and all of the interesting stuff that you could have written for him as a villain (like being a Dark Mirror version of Raphael, or who Raph would/could be without his brothers) has pretty much been completely wasted since he's pretty much A-OK with them.
This ^. I really hope they will twist it again somehow, but I doubt it
ShreddHedd
05-11-2014, 05:57 PM
This ^. I really hope they will twist it again somehow, but I doubt it
I agree, that sounds like a good idea actually. I think they need some more villains in the mix that are more personal to them and Slash could be that villain.
I agree, that sounds like a good idea actually. I think they need some more villains in the mix that are more personal to them and Slash could be that villain.
Especially, as Ramboraph pointed out, because he's a great way of exploring the darkness and depth of Raph's character
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 06:07 PM
it would have been nice if Slash was a villain a LITTLE longer.
ObiWanFan4life
05-11-2014, 06:18 PM
it would have been nice if Slash was a villain a LITTLE longer.
Yeah, that moment came spontaneously out of nowhere. How did he go from Bludgeoning Raph, to fighting the kraang with him in a minute?
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 06:20 PM
it would have been nice if Slash was a villain a LITTLE longer.
He's okay with killing turtles who fed him and lived with him for years but he worries about couple of humans? i don't get it...
TigerClaw
05-11-2014, 06:22 PM
TC, I'm thinking the rocka rocka thing has something to do with his species language. Not sure if it's supposed to be a tribal battle cry or what. I sort of dug it, although as others have said, it reminds me of Fozzie. I'm not sure if he's the last of his kind, but I can imagine thousands of these big brutes chanting this while pumping themselves up to battle the Kraang, or perhaps they do this while they're in battle since Newt busted it out a few times. I think it's safe to say he's an alien now and not a mutant, so I'd like to think there are more of his kind out there in those other dimensions somewhere. Unless of course the Kraang did away with the majority of his species. Who knows at this point? Fun to speculate though. I say alien because the Kraang have identified him as such more than once. Hey, there are alien dinosaurs in other incarnations. Why not alien newts or whatever? haha If he's just an every day mutant, that's cool too. Wonder where he got that translator and all his hardware?
Yeah, Hes definitely an alien, When he met Slash for the first time, He had to change his translator device, in order to speak English.
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 06:45 PM
The past episode had the Kraang call him the escaped convict, so he was always an alien.
Slash was never a full-on bad guy. He wanted to waste the bad guys in the ways the tmnt can't... at least the Nick tmnt can't. He saw the others are dead weight that were getting in the way. Insane, sure. But not the kind to go attack random people for no reason.
Powder
05-11-2014, 06:55 PM
Top quality stuff! Feldman is freakin' amaaaazing at Slash.
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 06:58 PM
Slash was never a full-on bad guy. He wanted to waste the bad guys in the ways the tmnt can't... at least the Nick tmnt can't. He saw the others are dead weight that were getting in the way. Insane, sure. But not the kind to go attack random people for no reason.
But again, to go from giving Mikey the most severe beat down he's ever had (and almost murdering him in quite a few ways, you could say even the most severe beat down that Donnie might have had too if the bruises tell the whole story let alone Donnie's arm), to having a brutal fight with Raphael, and everything else in Slash & Destroy...and then in only his Second Appearance (not counting his cameo in another one) to pretty much become their Ally (set up for future episodes) is very, very weak as well as lame on the part of the writers. Way too quick and you could even say Anti-Climactic as well, since it's obvious that he'll be the ally that will come in once in a while to help out (if for nothing else but out of his Loyalty to Raphael).
Especially with all of the directions and things that you could have done with Slash after 'Slash & Destroy'. And instead they took the laziest and most easy way out. The only way it would have been 'even more lazier/easier' than this would have been if he had gotten turned back into Spike at the end.
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 07:10 PM
But again, to go from giving Mikey the most severe beat down he's ever had (and almost murdering him in quite a few ways, you could say even the most severe beat down that Donnie might have had too if the bruises tell the whole story let alone Donnie's arm), to having a brutal fight with Raphael, and everything else in Slash & Destroy...and then in only his Second Appearance (not counting his cameo in another one) to pretty much become their Ally (set up for future episodes) is very, very weak as well as lame on the part of the writers. Way too quick and you could even say Anti-Climactic as well, since it's obvious that he'll be the ally that will come in once in a while to help out (if for nothing else but out of his Loyalty to Raphael).
Especially with all of the directions and things that you could have done with Slash after 'Slash & Destroy'. And instead they took the laziest and most easy way out. The only way it would have been 'even more lazier/easier' than this would have been if he had gotten turned back into Spike at the end.
Like I said, he had reasons. Misguided whacked-out reasons... but reasons. The others were holding Raph back. The only way for Raph and him to be a kick-ass team to take down the bad guys.. was to take them out of the picture. He never showed interest into just harming random people.
But again, to go from giving Mikey the most severe beat down he's ever had (and almost murdering him in quite a few ways, you could say even the most severe beat down that Donnie might have had too if the bruises tell the whole story let alone Donnie's arm), to having a brutal fight with Raphael, and everything else in Slash & Destroy...and then in only his Second Appearance (not counting his cameo in another one) to pretty much become their Ally (set up for future episodes) is very, very weak as well as lame on the part of the writers. Way too quick and you could even say Anti-Climactic as well, since it's obvious that he'll be the ally that will come in once in a while to help out (if for nothing else but out of his Loyalty to Raphael).
Especially with all of the directions and things that you could have done with Slash after 'Slash & Destroy'. And instead they took the laziest and most easy way out. The only way it would have been 'even more lazier/easier' than this would have been if he had gotten turned back into Spike at the end.
That's the issue with your statement, if you count don't his appearance in Metalhead Rewired, you're missing the whole point of where all this started at. That's the episode they realize they had a common enemy. That wasn't just a thrown in 3 second throwaway moment, that had significant meaning behind where they stood.
And plus bashing these writers for the whole "Turn on a dime cause you realized who the real enemy is" issue is ridiculous because it's happened WAY more times than you think in many different forms for many different franchises.
You know how many times that happened in say "X-Men"?
Do you have about seven hands to count from...? :D
Metalwolf
05-11-2014, 07:33 PM
so 10 dimensions = ?
1. Dimension X
2. 2k12 world
3. 80s world
4. 2k3 world?
5. classic comic book world?
6. Usagi Yo-wait Sakai didn't want to : (
7. Fugitoid's?
8. wherever the battle nexus took place?
9. your guess is as good as mine
10.???
Well we know 3/10 supposed dimensions.
Maybe one of them is the 'real' world, our dimension. That would make sense, in a way :P
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 07:43 PM
And plus bashing these writers for the whole "Turn on a dime cause you realized who the real enemy is" issue is ridiculous because it's happened WAY more times than you think in many different forms for many different franchises.
You know how many times that happened in say "X-Men"?
Do you have about seven hands to count from...? :D
So because it's happened before from other people, it's ok that it happened again?
How about just not doing it that way, just because 'it's been done before'? Don't repeat what others did before you? Or learn from others' past mistakes?
And we agree to disagree on that other statement you made. I don't think that tiny appearance in Metalhead Rewired was as Significant as you make it out to be. To each their own. To me, the whole thing was a Cop Out.
turtle1237
05-11-2014, 07:46 PM
That's the issue with your statement, if you count don't his appearance in Metalhead Rewired, you're missing the whole point of where all this started at. That's the episode they realize they had a common enemy. That wasn't just a thrown in 3 second throwaway moment, that had significant meaning behind where they stood.
And plus bashing these writers for the whole "Turn on a dime cause you realized who the real enemy is" issue is ridiculous because it's happened WAY more times than you think in many different forms for many different franchises.
You know how many times that happened in say "X-Men"?
Do you have about seven hands to count from...? :D
It was a pretty big cameo.
I think Slash and the Turtles were force with "The enemy of my enemy is my freind." It makes sense to me any way.
So because it's happened before from other people, it's ok that it happened again?
How about Not making it happen? Or learning from others' past mistakes?
Uh, yeah it is okay.
Because despite your belief, it's not a mistake.
If you want to bash these writers for doing that, just go ahead and bash every single writer on Earth, because it is done all the time.
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 07:50 PM
Uh, yeah it is okay.
Because despite your belief, it's not a mistake.
If you want to bash these writers for doing that, just go ahead and bash every single writer on Earth, because it is done all the time.
Once again, we agree to disagree. And sorry, but not Every Single Writer on Earth has done that. And even when that kind of stuff is done, I think it can be handled a LOT better than it was handled here. I just think it was a lazy, too easy, way too Quick, and bottom line a cop out way to handle the Slash character (as well as that entire situation). And yes, if I think the writers 'did a bad job' then of course I'd say so. What, should I say 'hey I think you did a great job even though I don't?'
If you disagree, that's fine. A lot of people were fine with it. I wasn't. That's pretty much it.
turtle1237
05-11-2014, 07:57 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we're supposed to care what this guy thinks? It seems lately people just shove his channel on here any time there's a new episode or news on the TMNT movie. It would make more sense if he was a member or something...
Anyways good episode, good to see Slash isn't all bad, he just wants to take the bad guys down in ways the Turtles can't since they're kid's heroes and all. Did not like the rokka rokka rokka garbage. It didn't fit in with the savage growling from the last episode. I don't think he ever used that same growl once,
I like his videos. He is up there with the critic and AVGN imo.
I just think it was a lazy, too easy, way too Quick, and bottom line a cop out way to handle the Slash character (as well as that entire situation).
Okay...what makes you personally think it was lazy the way they handled it?
Because you sound like you're of the impression that Slash was evil, which he was not. Slash when it came to Raph was misguided based on what Raph had said over and over again about his brothers, and when he set out to do what he believed Raph wanted, Raph made Slash out to be the bad guy and not Raph himself, he felt he was betrayed by Raph even though he did what Raph wanted which was to go on his own.
Raph trying to save Slash in "Slash & Destroy" is what is supposed to be remembered and the look Slash had on his face when he saw Raph running to save him.
So he was never evil, he was severely misguided by those who he trusted: both Raph and then Newtralizer.
NoName999
05-11-2014, 08:10 PM
The turtles did save Slash before
Slash was fighting the Kraang. So there's the at least pragmatism.
And frankly, I don't think Leo, Don, or Mikey would ever attack Slash with Raph being around them because Raph is still going to be fond of Slash no matter what.
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 08:11 PM
So he was never evil, he was severely misguided by those who he trusted.
So...almost like when Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader?
Never evil, was misguided, and then someone took him/used him/twisted him around and then he became the Vader that we all know.
How about Shredder doing the same thing to Slash? Taking him in, lying to him, twisting Slash's mind around, using him as a weapon against the Turtles and saying about 'how much they lied to you', or somehow finding stuff out and saying 'look at what he told you, he lied to you, didn't he?' or Any number of things...and THEN maybe/down the road Slash realizing and becoming an ally.
That's just one thing I thought of, just off the top of my head. Original? No. But something I find more interesting than this.
Once again, if you or others enjoyed it That's Fine! Nothing wrong with it. I didn't like the way it went, and I still stand by my opinions on it.
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 08:54 PM
So...almost like when Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader?
Never evil, was misguided, and then someone took him/used him/twisted him around and then he became the Vader that we all know.
How about Shredder doing the same thing to Slash? Taking him in, lying to him, twisting Slash's mind around, using him as a weapon against the Turtles and saying about 'how much they lied to you', or somehow finding stuff out and saying 'look at what he told you, he lied to you, didn't he?' or Any number of things...and THEN maybe/down the road Slash realizing and becoming an ally.
That's just one thing I thought of, just off the top of my head. Original? No. But something I find more interesting than this.
Once again, if you or others enjoyed it That's Fine! Nothing wrong with it. I didn't like the way it went, and I still stand by my opinions on it.
The issue with Slash is he never should have been Spike to begin with. If he was some evil whacked out Turtle that Shredder or Kraang brought out, I'd be fine with him being irredeeminably evil.
But with him being Spike... Raph's pal since episode one... I'm happy with Spike never forgetting that he was Raph's pal and having a chance to be at least less evil.
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 08:54 PM
The turtles did save Slash before
Slash was fighting the Kraang. So there's the at least pragmatism.
And frankly, I don't think Leo, Don, or Mikey would ever attack Slash with Raph being around them because Raph is still going to be fond of Slash no matter what.
they don't need to attack Slash...but the boys could have at least been cautious around him. Noticeably cautious!
Going a step back....I don't think that cameo of him in Metalhead Rewired is enough buildup for him to turn good in the second episode featuring him.
Warhorse
05-11-2014, 09:02 PM
so 10 dimensions = ?
1. Dimension X
2. 2k12 world
3. 80s world
4. 2k3 world?
5. classic comic book world?
6. Usagi Yo-wait Sakai didn't want to : (
7. Fugitoid's?
8. wherever the battle nexus took place?
9. your guess is as good as mine
10.???
Well we know 3/10 supposed dimensions.
I wonder why Newtralizer says Rocka rocka rocka a lot. Also how a terminator 2 homage with a new good guy cockroach terminator would play?
2007? Just so I can see Raph's alter-ego, Nightwatcher again.:D
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-11-2014, 09:08 PM
they don't need to attack Slash...but the boys could have at least been cautious around him. Noticeably cautious!
I guess Mikey forgot that Slash smashed him into the ground and almost turned him into paste, then later on grabbed him, knocked him out and tied him up while almost throwing him off of a ledge to his death.
Even Donnie, when approaching Leatherhead, was worried that he'd be grabbed 'in the face' again. But his arm being broken (later to be put in a sling) and his face very bruised up? I guess that didn't matter much to him, lol.
Warhorse
05-11-2014, 09:20 PM
IDK, I like hearing his thoughts ^_^ it's fun to hear people's opinions.
at least to me XD
I just wish JeremyJahns would do reviews on shows sometimes. He's actually genuinely funny.
Leofan26
05-11-2014, 09:51 PM
It was an ok episode, Casey was pretty cool and I'm really growing to like him :D
Raph was a little annoying here though :(
BabyTurtles
05-11-2014, 10:05 PM
I guess Mikey forgot that Slash smashed him into the ground and almost turned him into paste, then later on grabbed him, knocked him out and tied him up while almost throwing him off of a ledge to his death.
Even Donnie, when approaching Leatherhead, was worried that he'd be grabbed 'in the face' again. But his arm being broken (later to be put in a sling) and his face very bruised up? I guess that didn't matter much to him, lol.
see that's what I mean! How are the boys NOT traumatized by Slash!
they are more cautious around Leatherhead who might I add is actually their ally/friend! XD
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 10:07 PM
see that's what I mean! How are the boys NOT traumatized by Slash!
they are more cautious around Leatherhead who might I add is actually their ally/friend! XD
He almost killed the turtles who kept him and fed him for years but he sudenly cares about human life? Does not compute...
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 10:09 PM
He almost killed the turtles who kept him and fed him for years but he sudenly cares about human life? Does not compute...
The turtles were treating Raph horribly and were holding him back (according to Raph's endless bitching towards them). They needed to be taken out (according to Slash's twisted logic). What did normal humans ever do to Raph?
electric_sheep
05-11-2014, 10:13 PM
The turtles were treating Raph horribly and were holding him back (according to Raph's endless bitching towards them). They needed to be taken out (according to Slash's twisted logic). What did normal humans ever do to Raph?
Keep him in the sewers for 15 years?
Jester
05-11-2014, 11:11 PM
So...giant bubble walker?
raphmike
05-11-2014, 11:27 PM
hmm about raph last time wormquake he say i not cat parson then now
newtralized he say i not people.
Sewer Sirens Podcast
05-11-2014, 11:37 PM
Thought this was a good episode, just some minor nitpicks.
- was iffy was Newtralizer talking until they explained it in the flashback
- would've been nice to see more acknowledgement from the turtles toward Slash, since he kinda almost killed them
- the Casey and Raph subplot was kind of stupid. It followed the same path and formula as April in The Kraang Formula, which I REALLY didn't like (you can check out my thoughts on that episode on the link to my blog in my signature). It was basically the same exact thing, and Casey eventually was praised for his disobedience. It was cool how they kind of brought up how Casey is inferior to the turtles, however, unlike The Good, The Bad, and the Casey Jones
Refractive Reflections
05-12-2014, 01:34 AM
The only thing I didn't like about the episode was how the other turtles (Mikey, Don, Leo) seemed fine around Slash. (and to an extent even Raph)
If Slash beat me to an inch of my life then I'd be avoiding him!! Or at least have my weapon in hand whenever he's around.
I mean one does not simply forget a brutal beat down.
I feel like it downplays Slash and Destroy a bit.
But again, to go from giving Mikey the most severe beat down he's ever had (and almost murdering him in quite a few ways, you could say even the most severe beat down that Donnie might have had too if the bruises tell the whole story let alone Donnie's arm), to having a brutal fight with Raphael, and everything else in Slash & Destroy...and then in only his Second Appearance (not counting his cameo in another one) to pretty much become their Ally (set up for future episodes) is very, very weak as well as lame on the part of the writers. Way too quick and you could even say Anti-Climactic as well, since it's obvious that he'll be the ally that will come in once in a while to help out (if for nothing else but out of his Loyalty to Raphael).
Especially with all of the directions and things that you could have done with Slash after 'Slash & Destroy'. And instead they took the laziest and most easy way out. The only way it would have been 'even more lazier/easier' than this would have been if he had gotten turned back into Spike at the end.
they don't need to attack Slash...but the boys could have at least been cautious around him. Noticeably cautious!
Going a step back....I don't think that cameo of him in Metalhead Rewired is enough buildup for him to turn good in the second episode featuring him.
You two are expecting too much from this show to be quite frank.
If they easily brushed aside Season 1's threat of the Kraang kidnapping April in season 2 (April attending school), and made the cliffhanger bombshell of Karai being Splinter's daughter ("Follow the Leader") irrelevant to when Leo was fighting Karai in "Target April O' Neil", then it comes as no surprise that the animosity between Slash and Raphael's brothers would be brushed aside as well in this episode.
...Yet another typical example of this show's selective plot amnesia folks. It starts off strong (April being forced in to stay in the sewers, the Karai bombshell, fallout between Raph's brothers and Slash), but is either ignored (April attending school), brushed aside (the animosity between Raph's brothers and Slash), or ill-timed to the character's logic or the show's suspense (Leo not even acknowledging Karai as Splinter's daughter when he fought her in "Target: April O' Neil").
Kanon
05-12-2014, 02:22 AM
I just watched the Episode and think it was a good One.
Sometimes it was frustrating to listen to newtralizer, because i am Bad at Hearing english :P
One Point that bothers me is, that Slash cares about humans.
He doesnt care about Raphs Brothers and wanted to get rid of them, but not humans? :ohwell:
I just watched the Episode and think it was a good One.
Sometimes it was frustrating to listen to newtralizer, because i am Bad at Hearing english :P
One Point that bothers me is, that Slash cares about humans.
He doesnt care about Raphs Brothers and wanted to get rid of them, but not humans? :ohwell:
The humans never did anything to him, but Slash did remember all the times (before being mutated) when Raph complained about his brothers, how they didn't understand, how they were holding him back, how they didn't take things seriously, etc. Spike even "smiled" a little before mutation when Raph smacked one of his brothers.
So all those impressions manifested themselves in Slash after mutation. Slash probably felt he was doing the "right thing". Giving Raph his freedom, becoming a partner, friend and teammate Raph would have always wanted. Combined with Slash having a more violent nature it quickly escalated in him wanted to take Raph's brothers out of the picture.
Like others posters above me said, Slash may not be evil, but he was definitely misguided and didn't really have a moral compass which could guide him. And even in this episode he was about to smash Donatello with his weapon.
victory_angel
05-12-2014, 03:26 AM
Like others posters above me said, Slash may not be evil, but he was definitely misguided and didn't really have a moral compass which could guide him. And even in this episode he was about to smash Donatello with his weapon.
Yeah, in Slash and Destroy we don't see what happened to Donatello aside from Slash grabbing him and dragging him off. And what we can surmise happened is that Donnie was essentially beaten and left for dead.
There are some probabilities as for why was the case.
1. Donnie is a somewhat weaker fighter in comparison with the rest of his brothers. So Slash may have thought there is no point in killing him.
2. Slash may have assumed Donnie was done for and walked away not knowing he was still alive.
3. Raph complains about Donnie the least in his rants to Spike. Normally Leo is Raph's chief complaint when he rants to Spike if you take Slash's comment of "I've been waiting for that for a long time." when he punched Leo to mean anything. Most of the time when Raph complains about Donnie it's when he's lumped in with all three of his brothers.
4. Donnie did cause an accident that did nearly cause Spike his life. Even though he honestly didn't intend for that to happen, Slash wasn't going to let him get off scott free about it either.
This time Slash was downright ready to murder Donnie for daring to interfere with his fight with Raph.
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
05-12-2014, 08:17 AM
Does anyone else see the obvious parallels between Newt and Leatherhead? Newt is what LH might've became if Mikey didn't find him. And I actually do think He cared for Slash behind his insanity (he's pretty much a well intentioned extremist and not fully evil) but nice to see Slash has underwent a heel-face turn though...
I was thinking the exact same thing about Newt and Leathhead. I really liked the Newtralizer a lot when they first showed him but in this episode he didn't seem AS cool because he was basically like a merc version of Leatherhead. I still really loved the episode and the fact that we got another "Cowabunga". Also what is the name of that character that was sketched on the wall at the first of the ep where Raph and Casey were in the alley fighting? I can NOT think of where I have seen that thing! Also Casey was awesome in this episode and I loved the sort of self loathing way they brought him back to be the hero in the end. They sorta made fun of the fact that it was cliche which in a weird way made it be cool and not exactly cliche. LOL.
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
05-12-2014, 08:25 AM
One thing I liked was that it confirmed Donatello has more then one Spyroach.
I'm sure Raph will be glad to hear that! LOL!
blindturtle02
05-12-2014, 08:40 AM
Quite a few nice references to past episodes. I agree. As for spyroach, I'm not very happy to hear that Don has more of those I can sympathize with Raph. lol Hope we see cockroach terminator again at some point. I may hate those disgusting little creatures, but I like the idea of a huge indestructible roach roaming around. Keep hoping we'll see Scumbug at some point btw. I forget which dromer came up with said notion, but I like the possibility of Scumbug evolving from ct.
Loved the big Kraang weapon in this episode. I too was reminded of a giant bubblewalker after having it described to me. But those guys just can't seem to keep potent weapons around. First Chrome Dome, and now Mr. Walkies. haha Better luck next time, Kraang dudes. They should really be focused on dredging up their technodrome. Is Kraang Prime still on earth, I wonder? I suppose KP has the means to return to Dimension X if he wants to.
Darth Knuckles
05-12-2014, 10:24 AM
I liked this episode, mostly, and it was a surprise to me to see that Slash was in it! I thought this episode would be totally focused on The Newtralizer but it wasn't.
I feel like The Newtralizer's personality is very similar to The Punisher (since he also has the skull marking on the skin of his belly) but he also reminded me of a Predator in this episode. The plutonium he used to "teleport" reminded me of when a Predator cloaks itself to be unseen. The disk he threw around also reminded me of the smart-disc weapon the Predator used in Predator 2. He also had some type of wrist gauntlet that gave him the ability to speak in English which reminds me of the way a Predator can change spectrums of light to see in different situations as well as it being able to learn a language or words of a different species rather quickly.
I also liked the "Cowabunga Skate" (was it?) on the one shop along the street. I also loved The Newtralizer saying something to the effect of "Out of the ten dimensions, The Kraang are the worst." I'm assuming that the tenth dimension is referring to Dimension X itself! Very cool little nod there.
The Kraang Walker thing reminded me of a huge version of Krang's walker back from the original cartoon. At the same time, the way that Casey defeated it, it also reminded me of The Death Star in how it was destroyed.
While The Newtralizer and Slash teaming up made a lot of sense and explained what two other mutants were doing around the city, the ending didn't make perfect sense to me. Having Slash care about humans works I think. It reminded me of Venom in how he hates Spider-Man to no end but he doesn't necessarily have to hate other people. So their disagreement on possibly killing humans was okay with me.
But the very quick change of Slash's feelings on Raph and his other brothers seemed really rushed to me. Feeling comfortable around Raph himself would have worked I guess, but he almost seemed like he forgave Raph and his three brothers already over their last real encounter. That didn't seem like it made sense to me. I'd still think Slash would dislike Donnie, Mikey, and especially Leo still at this point. I also think that Slash and Raph would still have at least a friendly rivalry.
Overall I did like the story elements of Raph and was surprised that Raph and Slash had so much to do with this episode. I'd also like to see The Newtralizer again soon.
electric_sheep
05-12-2014, 11:34 AM
Isn't it Waka waka waka, you know like Packman?
BubblyShell22
05-12-2014, 03:48 PM
No, it's Rocka Rocka Rocka, and as others have said, it reminded me of Wocka Wocka Wocka as said by Fozzie Bear.
No, it's Rocka Rocka Rocka, and as others have said, it reminded me of Wocka Wocka Wocka as said by Fozzie Bear.
It makes it even more funny being Trejo was doing Fozzie in "Muppets: Most Wanted".
blindturtle02
05-12-2014, 05:18 PM
I see Trejo played a prisoner in Muppets, so that's a really weird and wonky TMNT connection. All Newtie needs now is a tattoo on his chest of a woman wearing a sombrero. He made a great Bane in Young Justice btw. Hope he returns as Newtralizer sooner rather than later. I really dig the voice.
BabyTurtles
05-12-2014, 08:14 PM
No, it's Rocka Rocka Rocka, and as others have said, it reminded me of Wocka Wocka Wocka as said by Fozzie Bear.
oh that's what that was.....I didn't know what was up with Newtralizer.
electric_sheep
05-12-2014, 08:29 PM
oh that's what that was.....I didn't know what was up with Newtralizer.
First time he did it i thought he was coughing out a furr ball...
blue_angel99
05-12-2014, 10:28 PM
Glad that Slash ain't completely evil.
Sad he didn't want to join the TMNT.
MsMarvelDuckie
05-12-2014, 11:19 PM
Finally got to watch the episode, and it was great! Loved seeing Slash again, and I enjoyed some of the little visual gags. (like ICK's cameo, the krang-arm face-palm by Donnie, Mikey "eating" the locations) The 180 by Slash DID seem a bit rushed, but I'm glad he and Raph made up. I was surprised at how Newtralizer sounded. Didn't sound like Trejo at all. Cool episode- not one of the BEST, but certainly good. And am I the only one who was reminded of Cable and Deadpool by those two? (Arm-mounted teleporters, high-tech weapons, Slash's merc attitude, etc.) And yeah, Punisher, too. Hmm, I like that it was sort of like a mash-up of the best parts of those three characters between Slash and Newt.
And that little guy spray-painted on the wall was a WWI (or was it II?) character (I forget his name) that was used as an army recruiting ploy. He used to be on posters and in little comic strips encouraging people to do their part for the war effort, if memory serves.
MajorViolence
05-13-2014, 12:59 AM
I'm really happy to see the show establishing characters who aren't clearly defined as "good" or "evil," but just driven by different motivations and moral values. I remember that being one of the stronger aspects of the 80s cartoon, especially since that was a time when a lot of cartoons didn't even worry about villain motivations. You could just dress a guy in black and be like "yeah he just wants to blow up the planet because he's evil" and no one would care.
blindturtle02
05-13-2014, 07:20 AM
Finally got to watch the episode, and it was great! Loved seeing Slash again, and I enjoyed some of the little visual gags. (like ICK's cameo, the krang-arm face-palm by Donnie, Mikey "eating" the locations) The 180 by Slash DID seem a bit rushed, but I'm glad he and Raph made up. I was surprised at how Newtralizer sounded. Didn't sound like Trejo at all. Cool episode- not one of the BEST, but certainly good. And am I the only one who was reminded of Cable and Deadpool by those two? (Arm-mounted teleporters, high-tech weapons, Slash's merc attitude, etc.) And yeah, Punisher, too. Hmm, I like that it was sort of like a mash-up of the best parts of those three characters between Slash and Newt.
And that little guy spray-painted on the wall was a WWI (or was it II?) character (I forget his name) that was used as an army recruiting ploy. He used to be on posters and in little comic strips encouraging people to do their part for the war effort, if memory serves.
That's a very apt comparison of Slash and Newt. Now that youmention it, they do remind me of those three Marvel characters. You've got me curious as to who the WW I/II guy was. I'm pretty sure some history teacher or another briefly mentioned him when discussing recruitment. Was that the Uncle Sam personification?
BubblyShell22
05-13-2014, 07:36 AM
I think it was because the Uncle Sam posters were often displayed a lot, urging people to join up to fight in the war.
Shark_Blade
05-13-2014, 09:59 AM
Nice story but I feel that the dialogue and some touching moments are moving too fast... I mean very FAST. Would be nice if they pause a second or too to soak in the feeling a bit.
Guess that's the limit of tv show. I still enjoy it though. :)
Does anyone know why Slash actually care for the people? Seems kinda odd considering he's willing to obliterate anyone or anything just to be Raph's partner, got defeated, held as Kraang's hostage, freed by Newtralizer then suddenly have an affinity for the human beings? Actually caring for them?
I mean WHAT? :teek: Seems out of character with that sudden change.
NoName999
05-13-2014, 10:00 AM
Because Raph cares about protecting people it seems.
Shark_Blade
05-13-2014, 10:11 AM
Raph cares about his brothers too but Slash didn't seem to mind, seemed hell bent on beating them to a pulp, possibly even killing them. :fshifty:
I just find it odd that he would care for the people, considering he never actually encoutered anyone before in his life. Maybe April but we never see them interact anyway.
in "Slash and Destroy" he wants him and Raph to be a crime-fighting duo, "fighting evil together". So I think it's fair to say, that he has some understanding of what is good and evil - and that ordinary people shouldn't be harmed. But because of all of Raphs b*tching about his brothers, he thinks that they stand in the way of Raphs greatness, and that Slash and Raph would be a better team than The Turtles could ever be, and therefore they should be eliminated. That thought is indeed very twisted and evil, but I think there's a difference between that and his "care" for innocent people
edit: You can argue that Raph himself has difficulties in drawing the line. In that ep in season one where the Purple Dragons beat up Murakami, Raph wants to kick the living sh*t out of them, even though it's clear that they are no treat to the Turtles (and actually are afraid) - and he gets mad at Leo for stopping the fight
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
05-13-2014, 12:03 PM
in "Slash and Destroy" he wants him and Raph to be a crime-fighting duo, "fighting evil together". So I think it's fair to say, that he has some understanding of what is good and evil - and that ordinary people shouldn't be harmed. But because of all of Raphs b*tching about his brothers, he thinks that they stand in the way of Raphs greatness, and that Slash and Raph would be a better team than The Turtles could ever be, and therefore they should be eliminated. That thought is indeed very twisted and evil, but I think there's a difference between that and his "care" for innocent people
edit: You can argue that Raph himself has difficulties in drawing the line. In that ep in season one where the Purple Dragons beat up Murakami, Raph wants to kick the living sh*t out of them, even though it's clear that they are no treat to the Turtles (and actually are afraid) - and he gets mad at Leo for stopping the fight
I think sometimes we focus so much on each of their "strengths" that we forget about their "weaknesses". I think Raph's is his lack of "mercy" and Leo's is his "bossiness" and Donnie's is his "overthinking" and Mikey's is his "goofiness" that gets him in to trouble. All really great heroes need to have some flaws because it makes them relatable to the people who love them. Stan Lee said that is why he thinks people love his characters so much because when you get down to it they are still very "human". A person made fun of me once for saying that I could relate to the Turtles and they thought that was completely stupid to even say. I would guess that MOST of us here CAN relate to them and ESPECIALLY to our individual FAVORITE Turtle.
Shark_Blade
05-13-2014, 05:33 PM
in "Slash and Destroy" he wants him and Raph to be a crime-fighting duo, "fighting evil together". So I think it's fair to say, that he has some understanding of what is good and evil - and that ordinary people shouldn't be harmed. But because of all of Raphs b*tching about his brothers, he thinks that they stand in the way of Raphs greatness, and that Slash and Raph would be a better team than The Turtles could ever be, and therefore they should be eliminated. That thought is indeed very twisted and evil, but I think there's a difference between that and his "care" for innocent people
edit: You can argue that Raph himself has difficulties in drawing the line. In that ep in season one where the Purple Dragons beat up Murakami, Raph wants to kick the living sh*t out of them, even though it's clear that they are no treat to the Turtles (and actually are afraid) - and he gets mad at Leo for stopping the fightThat's an interesting way to look at it. But like I said, Slash never encountered or interacted with any humans before, he doesn't completely understand or relate to them. So it's kinda jarring for Slash to hold on that belief simply because Raph believes in it.
I think sometimes we focus so much on each of their "strengths" that we forget about their "weaknesses". I think Raph's is his lack of "mercy" and Leo's is his "bossiness" and Donnie's is his "overthinking" and Mikey's is his "goofiness" that gets him in to trouble. All really great heroes need to have some flaws because it makes them relatable to the people who love them. Stan Lee said that is why he thinks people love his characters so much because when you get down to it they are still very "human". A person made fun of me once for saying that I could relate to the Turtles and they thought that was completely stupid to even say. I would guess that MOST of us here CAN relate to them and ESPECIALLY to our individual FAVORITE Turtle.
Yeah I love their flaws. I guess April's flaw is her bitchiness lol.
I guess April's flaw is her bitchiness lol.
You can say it's a flaw, but it's understandable she's like that.
It was an alright episode, really am not enjoying this season as the last.
Pizzalover94
05-13-2014, 09:30 PM
I really liked this episode. I had no idea that Newtralizer was voiced by Machete. Very cool. I laughed a lot during this episode. The bit with Donny getting punched was hilarious. That needs to be a GIF. :lol:
jazzmatazz
05-13-2014, 09:46 PM
I just got myself caught up. I finally realized what the Newtralizer reminds me of. Toothless from how to train your dragon with his body structure. Overall though I liked the episode. I loved the skate shop :D
Shark_Blade
05-14-2014, 03:26 AM
I just got myself caught up. I finally realized what the Newtralizer reminds me of. Toothless from how to train your dragon with his body structure. Overall though I liked the episode. I loved the skate shop :D
Funny I thought Toothless reminds me of Stitch from "Lilo and Stitch" movie. And Stitch reminds me of a koala bear.
That's an interesting way to look at it. But like I said, Slash never encountered or interacted with any humans before, he doesn't completely understand or relate to them. So it's kinda jarring for Slash to hold on that belief simply because Raph believes in it
I get what you mean, but I buy it :lol: I find it harder to understand that he has already forgiven Leo, Mikey and Don...for now at least
electric_sheep
05-14-2014, 04:33 AM
Danny Trejo?
Then i feel that this is kinda justified.
http://s14.postimg.org/5rlzhlxsx/ty6.jpg
dont judge me.
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
05-14-2014, 08:15 AM
Funny I thought Toothless reminds me of Stitch from "Lilo and Stitch" movie. And Stitch reminds me of a koala bear.
What's funny is I think he is meant to be a cross between a bat and a dog. LOL.
TheJ-manTurtleMan
05-15-2014, 03:21 AM
Interesting to note Newtralizer said there are 10 dimensions. I wonder if that was just a throwaway line or if its actually important.
That got my attention too. You know X is the roman numeral for 10, could Dimension X be the tenth dimension in a combined system of dimensions?
Metalwolf
05-15-2014, 07:03 AM
That got my attention too. You know X is the roman numeral for 10, could Dimension X be the tenth dimension in a combined system of dimensions?I like that explanation as it makes the most sense. It could be that Dimension X and the other 9 inter-thread throughout the other 'realities' we saw in the alien 'hallway,' thus explaining why there are so many doors, but only 10 Dimensions.
Jon_Talbain
05-16-2014, 08:19 AM
I watched the episode again and noticed something else. When Raph and Slash lock weapons near the beginning of the episode, it seemed very slow and lacked any real power. Did anyone else noticed that? It just seemed out of place, especially considering how strong they both are. Is it because it is a filler episode or what?
TMNTtattooed
05-16-2014, 10:38 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned but did anyone catch Mikey and Donnie's bandannas on Slashes arm when he tells Newt that it's too risky to blow up the building because there are people. I downloaded the episode from itunes and was watching it today and caught that.
Not sure if this was mentioned but did anyone catch Mikey and Donnie's bandannas on Slashes arm when he tells Newt that it's too risky to blow up the building because there are people. I downloaded the episode from itunes and was watching it today and caught that.
He took them when he f*cked them up in his first episode.
He took them when he f*cked them up in his first episode.
I think the OP is saying that they just popped up just during that scene and then disappeared again.
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marcelangelo
05-16-2014, 04:31 PM
That's an interesting way to look at it. But like I said, Slash never encountered or interacted with any humans before, he doesn't completely understand or relate to them. So it's kinda jarring for Slash to hold on that belief simply because Raph believes in it.
Yeah I love their flaws. I guess April's flaw is her bitchiness lol.
I think Mibs really nailed it with his post.bravo!
shark blade, even if slash never interacted with anyone topside why would he feel antagonistic towards them then as a logical conclusion in your theory?
I mean I don't see slash/spike as a malevolent character at all...it is I guess more a thing of bad luck that things between him and the others went the way they did in the beginning...
BabyTurtles
05-16-2014, 08:58 PM
I think Mibs really nailed it with his post.bravo!
shark blade, even if slash never interacted with anyone topside why would he feel antagonistic towards them then as a logical conclusion in your theory?
I mean I don't see slash/spike as a malevolent character at all...it is I guess more a thing of bad luck that things between him and the others went the way they did in the beginning...
bad luck? he......pretty much knew he wanted to get rid of Mikey, Don, and Leo the minute he mutated....
did he even apologize to them?? :ohwell:
Sighphi
05-17-2014, 09:26 AM
They lost the chance at creating a N@S spinoff.
It could have been a cartoon for older folks since these two dont play around.
snake
05-17-2014, 09:39 AM
They lost the chance at creating a N@S spinoff.
It could have been a cartoon for older folks since these two dont play around.
It would probably tank in ratings and wouldn't make much money.
I still would've loved it if it was written more maturely. Not blood or gore, but mature as in continuing storylines and more character development. Pretty much how iDW is currently.
Sighphi
05-17-2014, 10:17 AM
It would probably tank in ratings and wouldn't make much money.
I still would've loved it if it was written more maturely. Not blood or gore, but mature as in continuing storylines and more character development. Pretty much how iDW is currently.
Why would it tank?
Avatar got a spin-off and it's doing fine.
Candy Kappa
05-29-2014, 06:42 AM
This was a fun episode, loved the way the Kraang interacted with each other. The "applause" they gave to the pilot Kraang was great.
I hope we see a lot more of Newtralizer and Danny Trejo as his voice.
Pretty good episode, I really liked the Newtralizer/Slash team up it made for an interesting episode. I've been enjoying most of the second part of S2 epiosdes, I'm not sure if the show really has gotten better or if I "get" the mood of the show better now, it's no 2k3 but it's alright.
Sumac
11-02-2014, 02:18 AM
Nice episode.
Newtralizer certainly reminds me of Punisher. Newt / Slash team up was awesome and there was potential for something biger - like a spinoff or something, but...well, some things are too good to be true.
Action scenes were awesome. Kraang interactions were hilarious.
And I liked that Slash and Raph parted ways peacefully.
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