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MathUser
12-18-2014, 12:33 PM
I started watching this on the Hub and when they cancelled it I started watching the rest of it on netflix. It's cool as a alternate continuation of TMNT3. So anyone else like the series?

snake
12-18-2014, 12:44 PM
It's an odd thing that I've softened up to. It's pretty bad, but it's really enjoyable and the villains are sweet.

Candy Kappa
12-18-2014, 12:47 PM
As I usually say in these NM threads when they now and then pop up: The show has it's charm.

Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2014, 12:54 PM
The show is a mixed bag-

Good: live action turtles,new and interesting villain concepts and new storylines. (in concept, Dragon Lord, Bonesteel, Silver, and the rest are no cheesier or lamer than anything else, Mirage or otherwise)

Bad: cheesy sound effects, cheesy fights, low budget that made it power rangers bad, and Mary Sue fifth turtle that overpowered the original four in a few second off-screen fight, and defeated the shredder with a mind trick.

IndigoErth
12-18-2014, 12:57 PM
I find it's hokeyness amusing. Kabillion via my 'on demand' with Comcast/Xfinity usually has some episodes available, so I'd been checking it out on there.

TheCanadiandrome
12-18-2014, 01:52 PM
it's decent. I wouldn't mind owning it on dvd. it's about the only thing i don't own TMNT related on dvd

Wesley
12-18-2014, 01:59 PM
The show is a mixed bag-

Good: live action turtles,new and interesting villain concepts and new storylines. (in concept, Dragon Lord, Bonesteel, Silver, and the rest are no cheesier or lamer than anything else, Mirage or otherwise)

Bad: cheesy sound effects, cheesy fights, low budget that made it power rangers bad, and Mary Sue fifth turtle that overpowered the original four in a few second off-screen fight, and defeated the shredder with a mind trick.

I agree. I liked the show when I was 12 because I only saw the good points. I also liked that it was loosely based on the films. A few people at school liked the show and preferred it over the 1987 cartoon. I watched the first two episodes a year ago and I thought that the good was far outweighed by the bad. It is entertaining to watch at times, but it's not as good as I remembered it. The bad acting put me off watching another episode.

Autbot_Benz
12-18-2014, 02:02 PM
I watched the first episode the other day and it was bad. The turtle voices were crap the costumes looked horrible shredder and the foot were goofs.

Leo656
12-18-2014, 02:17 PM
It's easier to watch it now for me than it was back then. I was a Freshman in high school when that show came out. Me and all my buddies were SO pumped that TMNT was going to carry on in some fashion. Keep in mind, we hadn't had a movie for a couple years with none on the way, the cartoon was winding down, the Archie book was cancelled... Next Mutation, based on just still photos and descriptions, sounded pretty spiffy. We were all set to go.

...After the first episode, and ever since, I'm the only one of that particular group that still kept up with TMNT other than watching the first movie occasionally. My friends all decided, on that day, they were "too old for this sh*t," and never looked back. I mean, we used to make masks out of construction paper and run around the backyard acting out the movies and sh*t. It was important to us. Suddenly, TMNT was "corny". That stung. I've tried to get a couple of them back into it, and a few of them saw the new movie, but they all admit they don't much care anymore. They're still into other cartoons and comics and stuff, but they've never been able to shake off that sour taste from TNM. :ohwell:

So, I have a bit of a distaste for it in general. But watching it now, years later, many years removed from that heartbreak, it's much easier to just write it off as one of the goofier versions of TMNT and accept it for what it is and see the good in it. If it really had been the last TMNT project ever and we hadn't gotten so much good stuff since, I'd still be bitter, but it's much easier to swallow now. It has its moments. I picked it up as soon as it came out on DVD, mostly because my wife had never seen it. I can laugh at stuff now that, back then, just made me go, "Oh, man, so it's come to THIS." :lol:

It's definitely not really very good but it's gotten more hate than it deserves, I think. Especially Venus. Really bad execution, really unnecessary idea, BUT, I swear there's ways to make that idea work and they just picked the wrong one. There's a lot of that in TNM. Okay ideas they didn't have time, writers, or budget to properly execute. But they tried. I don't think they had enough to work with but they did okay with what they had, which honestly wasn't much.

Birdman37
12-18-2014, 02:19 PM
By far the worst adaption of Turtles whether comics, live action, cartoon, tv, movie, etc.... Horrible, horrible show. I was a HUGE turtles fan growing up and even I quit watching after a few episodes as a kid. It was painful to try and sit through.

turtlefanforever
12-18-2014, 02:33 PM
A big thing with the hate is it's the first very real change to the franchise. Excluding the jump from comics to the cartoon show which was drastic. But The Next Mutation went and did it's own thing. It's own villians and allies. A twist on the story but still keeping true to the movies. I loved it all. I don't understand why it's the general consensus that this was supposed to be some dark gritty show and that it sucks because it wasn't.

The villains were great, had some of the best archs within the franchise with unchain my heart. There's just so much good in this series. And it comes no where near the crap we got in the 2014 film and 2012 series!!!!

pennydreadful
12-18-2014, 03:12 PM
I started watching this on the Hub and when they cancelled it I started watching the rest of it on netflix. It's cool as a alternate continuation of TMNT3. So anyone else like the series?

http://i.imgur.com/nCKbEOU.jpg?1

Autbot_Benz
12-18-2014, 03:16 PM
A big thing with the hate is it's the first very real change to the franchise. Excluding the jump from comics to the cartoon show which was drastic. But The Next Mutation went and did it's own thing. It's own villians and allies. A twist on the story but still keeping true to the movies. I loved it all. I don't understand why it's the general consensus that this was supposed to be some dark gritty show and that it sucks because it wasn't.

The villains were great, had some of the best archs within the franchise with unchain my heart. There's just so much good in this series. And it comes no where near the crap we got in the 2014 film and 2012 series!!!!

http://i60.tinypic.com/10qw2z7.jpg

there are no words

Leo656
12-18-2014, 03:28 PM
"Hello...? HELLO, there! Mr. Kettle! It's your old friend, Mr. Pot! I just called to say you're black!"

Prowler
12-18-2014, 03:33 PM
It's easier to watch it now for me than it was back then. I was a Freshman in high school when that show came out. Me and all my buddies were SO pumped that TMNT was going to carry on in some fashion. Keep in mind, we hadn't had a movie for a couple years with none on the way, the cartoon was winding down, the Archie book was cancelled... Next Mutation, based on just still photos and descriptions, sounded pretty spiffy. We were all set to go.

...After the first episode, and ever since, I'm the only one of that particular group that still kept up with TMNT other than watching the first movie occasionally. My friends all decided, on that day, they were "too old for this sh*t," and never looked back. I mean, we used to make masks out of construction paper and run around the backyard acting out the movies and sh*t. It was important to us. Suddenly, TMNT was "corny". That stung. I've tried to get a couple of them back into it, and a few of them saw the new movie, but they all admit they don't much care anymore. They're still into other cartoons and comics and stuff, but they've never been able to shake off that sour taste from TNM. :ohwell:

So, I have a bit of a distaste for it in general. But watching it now, years later, many years removed from that heartbreak, it's much easier to just write it off as one of the goofier versions of TMNT and accept it for what it is and see the good in it. If it really had been the last TMNT project ever and we hadn't gotten so much good stuff since, I'd still be bitter, but it's much easier to swallow now. It has its moments. I picked it up as soon as it came out on DVD, mostly because my wife had never seen it. I can laugh at stuff now that, back then, just made me go, "Oh, man, so it's come to THIS." :lol:

It's definitely not really very good but it's gotten more hate than it deserves, I think. Especially Venus. Really bad execution, really unnecessary idea, BUT, I swear there's ways to make that idea work and they just picked the wrong one. There's a lot of that in TNM. Okay ideas they didn't have time, writers, or budget to properly execute. But they tried. I don't think they had enough to work with but they did okay with what they had, which honestly wasn't much.
I wonder if people will view the new movie in the same light 15-20 years later

Whatswiththeheadbands?
12-18-2014, 03:49 PM
I have seen it, but don't remember anything of it.

I might give it a go again sometime.

pennydreadful
12-18-2014, 04:28 PM
"Hello...? HELLO, there! Mr. Kettle! It's your old friend, Mr. Pot! I just called to say you're black!"

The lack of self-awareness in some folks really is staggering, isn't it? :lol:

Leo656
12-18-2014, 04:31 PM
"Self-Awareness"? What is that, some kind of Palsy?

Powder
12-18-2014, 06:40 PM
Just report & carry on.

Anyway, I absolutely love The Next Mutation. Contrary to popular belief, there are others like us. :trazz:

pennydreadful
12-18-2014, 07:48 PM
We are an exclusive crowd, Powder. :tcool:

Jester
12-18-2014, 07:52 PM
It has it's charms. Heck, one of the reasons i refuse to buy the DVDs is they edited out my favorite joke.

"But the rat had a stick..."
"And what did the Turtle have? A pink flower!?"

Leo656
12-18-2014, 07:54 PM
Funny... I've heard people say they refuse to buy it because all of VENUS's "jokes" that they DIDN'T cut... :lol:

Ahhhh, we're havin' a good time. :)

sdp
12-18-2014, 09:12 PM
I like it, it has its pros and cons but people only focus on the cons. And TNM is totally in continuity with the original movies.

Mandy Chan
12-19-2014, 01:08 AM
Yes, it is really really cheesy... But its fun and I like it

Leonardo87
12-19-2014, 11:37 AM
I got excited when Saban released the two volumes on DVD. I guess that says something there lol. So yes; I am a fan of the Next Mutation and I remember that day when I was about 10/11 years old, excited and anxiously waiting for it to come on.

OA
12-19-2014, 11:43 AM
I'm sorry but there is just nothing I liked about the show. The toys I loved actually but the show was such a power ranger rip that I just couldn't stomach it.

Leo656
12-19-2014, 11:48 AM
Yeah, that bothered me at the time too. I hated Power Rangers, so seeing TMNT go that route was not at all what I wanted to see at that point in time.

Like I said, I've warmed up to it since then, but at the time, I detested it.

Aaronardo
12-19-2014, 01:34 PM
Wouldn't call myself a fan. I never really cared for the Power Rangers myself, and seeing TMNT go that route... just... ugh.
It was extremely cheesy (not the good kind, either), only had a few good jokes, obviously catered to the younger crowd, yeah, there's a reason it never lasted more than a season. I can see why people like it though :P

ZariusTwo
12-19-2014, 01:59 PM
I'm a big PR fan, but I never felt the Turtles fit into the same kind of mold. A pity too, because the Dragon Lord had loads of potentia

CyberCubed
12-19-2014, 02:00 PM
The show itself is very bad and grating at times, and not in the good cheesy way. It had some good concepts in the villains that could have been interesting, but it just wasn't handled well.

Prowler
12-19-2014, 02:04 PM
I'm sorry but there is just nothing I liked about the show. The toys I loved actually but the show was such a power ranger rip that I just couldn't stomach it.
Did the Power Rangers phenomenon even last for long? Because I was in elementary school when PR were on and I don't really recall other kids talking about it much. Most talked about Pokémon, some Cartoon Network cartoons of the time like Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, etc. and EVERYONE was obsessed with DBZ.

I had a green PR as a kid, but don't recall ever watching a single episode of the show.

Leo656
12-19-2014, 02:10 PM
I guess that depends on how old you are. I think it was like, '93/94, I was in 6th/7th grade, and kids just would NOT shut up about F'n Power Rangers. At that particular point in time, yeah, it was huge.

Prowler
12-19-2014, 02:12 PM
I guess that depends on how old you are. I think it was like, '93/94, I was in 6th/7th grade, and kids just would NOT shut up about F'n Power Rangers. At that particular point in time, yeah, it was huge.
Ah, makes sense then. I got into school in 1996. I guess by the time the popularity had waned out a bit. A few kids still talked about it, though.

Leo656
12-19-2014, 02:24 PM
I watched it a little, but literally only for Amy Jo Johnson. I had it bad for her. BAD.

I recall that '96 was, I think, the year she left the show, and also the kids my age were all entering high school, so yeah, the primary audience was pretty much outgrowing it by then. At least the ones who started watching it when it began.

I mean c'mon, no Freshman is gonna stroll the halls wearing a Power Rangers shirt. Might as well just stuff yourself in a locker and save the Seniors some trouble. :lol:

Prowler
12-19-2014, 02:27 PM
I watched it a little, but literally only for Amy Jo Johnson. I had it bad for her. BAD.

I recall that '96 was, I think, the year she left the show, and also the kids my age were all entering high school, so yeah, the primary audience was pretty much outgrowing it by then. At least the ones who started watching it when it began.

I mean c'mon, no Freshman is gonna stroll the halls wearing a Power Rangers shirt. Might as well just stuff yourself in a locker and save the Seniors some trouble. :lol:
Power Rangers just looked corny and cheap to me even as a little kid. The cartoons of my childhood are Cartoon Network's classics from Hanna-Barbera stuff to 90s stuff such as Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Lab. And, ofc, the original NT cartoon(re-runs).

Wesley
12-19-2014, 02:32 PM
Did the Power Rangers phenomenon even last for long? Because I was in elementary school when PR were on and I don't really recall other kids talking about it much. Most talked about Pokémon, some Cartoon Network cartoons of the time like Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, etc. and EVERYONE was obsessed with DBZ.

I had a green PR as a kid, but don't recall ever watching a single episode of the show.

I remember other people at school talking about Power Rangers around 1993/1994, but they stopped sometime after that. I never watched MMPR because I thought it was silly at the time. I did watch In Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue and Time Force, as those shows had a more serious tone and they were enjoyable. Most people at school preferred to talk about adult live-action shows, comedies and films like the X Files, Friends, Coronation Street, etc.

Guitar_Raph
12-19-2014, 02:47 PM
This series had some cool moments!

4). The sashes & costumes.

3). Mikey doing the Sewer Hour.

2). The debut of Raph driving a motorcycle.

The #1 answers; When Mikey played the organ in The Good Foot + the music video promo of the series where they played as a band! Mikey rocked the drums!

Birdman37
12-19-2014, 06:55 PM
A big thing with the hate is it's the first very real change to the franchise. Excluding the jump from comics to the cartoon show which was drastic. But The Next Mutation went and did it's own thing. It's own villians and allies. A twist on the story but still keeping true to the movies. I loved it all. I don't understand why it's the general consensus that this was supposed to be some dark gritty show and that it sucks because it wasn't.

The villains were great, had some of the best archs within the franchise with unchain my heart. There's just so much good in this series. And it comes no where near the crap we got in the 2014 film and 2012 series!!!!

I dont see why anyone would think Next Mutation was supposed to be gritty or dark, it was a kids show that came on Fox's block for kids. It was just a horrible show with horrible costumes, horrible dialogue, and horrible story. It was utter ****.

Your last line just blows my mind tho. I dont see how anyone could prefer Next Mutation over the new movie, thats insane to me. To each their own I guess tho.

Leo656
12-19-2014, 07:02 PM
Well, for one thing, Next Mutation only has to be endured for about 25 minutes at a time. That's one advantage it has over the movie.

snake
12-19-2014, 08:31 PM
A big thing with the hate is it's the first very real change to the franchise. Excluding the jump from comics to the cartoon show which was drastic. But The Next Mutation went and did it's own thing. It's own villians and allies. A twist on the story but still keeping true to the movies. I loved it all. I don't understand why it's the general consensus that this was supposed to be some dark gritty show and that it sucks because it wasn't.

The villains were great, had some of the best archs within the franchise with unchain my heart. There's just so much good in this series. And it comes no where near the crap we got in the 2014 film and 2012 series!!!!

You really aren't serious. You think this is better then the Nick show? I'm done, man.

Autbot_Benz
12-19-2014, 08:34 PM
You really aren't serious. You think this is better then the Nick show? I'm done, man.

glad someone agrees with me

DevilSpooky
12-19-2014, 09:05 PM
I watched it a little, but literally only for Amy Jo Johnson. I had it bad for her. BAD.


Who didn't? :trazz:

Leo656
12-19-2014, 09:26 PM
She still looks, like, almost exactly the same. She must drink a lot of water.

Davetello
12-19-2014, 09:27 PM
Yep, I like it. I don't mind telling people, not a single fvck is given.

Technically and objectively it's complete nonsense, but it's one of those guilty pleasures type things.

IndigoErth
12-20-2014, 12:45 AM
Was browsing through Amazon and stumbled across a listing for 'vintage' party napkins.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71RwHdV67UL.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-Turtles-Mutation-Napkins-Unique/dp/B00EUM150I/ref=sr_1_34?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1419060651&sr=1-34&keywords=ninja+turtles
:D

DevilSpooky
12-20-2014, 01:02 AM
She still looks, like, almost exactly the same. She must drink a lot of water.

That she does, time has been kind to that woman.

Leo656
12-20-2014, 01:03 AM
Day-um, Venus. :lol:

Seriously though that napkin artwork is the coolest thing to ever come out of that show. :lol:

Powder
12-20-2014, 01:04 AM
Was browsing through Amazon and stumbled across a listing for 'vintage' party napkins.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71RwHdV67UL.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-Turtles-Mutation-Napkins-Unique/dp/B00EUM150I/ref=sr_1_34?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1419060651&sr=1-34&keywords=ninja+turtles
:D
Gotta love that classic Dooney art! He & Farley did some awesome stuff for the show's promotion.

Leo656
12-20-2014, 01:07 AM
Too bad they couldn't just add some voice-overs to the still drawings and call it a show. :lol:

C'mon, Clutch Cargo did it.

Guitar_Raph
12-20-2014, 04:46 AM
Too bad they couldn't just add some voice-overs to the still drawings and call it a show. :lol:

C'mon, Clutch Cargo did it.

So did Space Angel.

Duke Nukem
12-20-2014, 05:23 AM
It was okay, the biggest downside is of course that it tried to be Power Rangers, the same way 2k14 turtles wants to be Transformers. I wasn't really a power rangers fan, I might have seen most of the first season before I considered myself too old to watch any more. I didn't like Next Mutation much when it came out a few years after that, but now that I have the DVDs and watched through the series a year or two ago, it's not that terrible. I consider it the worst of the 4 TV series, but not bad enough that it's not worth watching.

ZariusTwo
12-20-2014, 05:35 AM
I remember other people at school talking about Power Rangers around 1993/1994, but they stopped sometime after that. I never watched MMPR because I thought it was silly at the time. I did watch In Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue and Time Force, as those shows had a more serious tone and they were enjoyable. Most people at school preferred to talk about adult live-action shows, comedies and films like the X Files, Friends, Coronation Street, etc.

You win my internet for bringing Corrie up on a TMNT forum:)

TurtleMullet
12-20-2014, 05:38 AM
I've never been a huge fan of Next Mutation, but I was watching it earlier tonight on Netflix with my nephew and he seemed to be enthralled by it.

I've always felt like the budget was notoriously low, the costumes ridiculously cheap, and some of the storylines were a bit odd.

But I did enjoy watching Master Splinter play a heated game of chess with Morgan Freeman :)

snake
12-20-2014, 08:57 AM
Was browsing through Amazon and stumbled across a listing for 'vintage' party napkins.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71RwHdV67UL.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Ninja-Turtles-Mutation-Napkins-Unique/dp/B00EUM150I/ref=sr_1_34?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1419060651&sr=1-34&keywords=ninja+turtles
:D

This isn't the first time I wanted to frame a napkin.

TheCanadiandrome
12-20-2014, 02:56 PM
She still looks, like, almost exactly the same. She must drink a lot of water.

oh yeah! lol :lol::goof::embarass::rolling::nod: