Wait, What?

[snake]

Episode 10 description:

S03, E10 Serpent Hunt
As the Turtles search for Karai, they are forced to deal with a city filled with Kraangdroids as well as Zeck and Steranko.
2/01/2015

I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

[CyberCubed]

Because the writers will treat it like no time has passed since the Turtles left. When in reality if NYC was ever taken over by aliens the entire U.S. government would be there on lockdown.

[snake]

Because the writers will treat it like no time has passed since the Turtles left. When in reality if NYC was ever taken over by aliens the entire U.S. government would be there on lockdown.

Does the rest of the world know about the invasion? It's pretty hard to cover something like this up.

[BabyTurtles]

I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

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[ssjup81]

*quotes self*
My theory is that the EPF has some how quarantined the city off, preventing people from entering and exiting somehow and the Kraang can't get out, or either their mutagen isn't all that perfected after all and they're working on it, or either Leatherhead is thwarting their plans from expanding and conquering other areas along with what this incarnation's version of the "Mutanimals" might be, which may include Slash and the Newtralizer. This could also be the case as to why no news reports about the Kraang have been mentioned on TV. EPF covering it up. Who knows.

Ya that's what I mean. Even if Leatherhead or anyone else was fighting back I assume the Kraang could unleash an army big enough to out do anybody. Like they don't have the ability to open portals anywhere else in the world or at least country?

I always like to give the benefit of the doubt and suspension of disbelief to a certain point but it's just weird they're bound to NY. Well we will seen next week.How's this for a convoluted theory. Kraang Prime was knocked out when Casey hit him..her? with the party wagon. Maybe Kraang Prime is unconscious and the other Kraang are too stupid to do anything on their owns without Kraang Prime's instructions and leadership and Gilber Godfrey Kraang was killed...so maybe there isn't a third in command to take over and give instructions if Roseanne and Gilbert Kraang aren't around. The last instructions they received was to Kraangify the inhabitants of NYC and that's why they haven't gone beyond that point. :P

[victory_angel]

In order to prevent a nation wide panic the Government would use any bull that the general public is willing to swallow.

[snake]

*quotes self*

Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.

[BabyTurtles]

*quotes self*

....you don't think they would have helped Kraang Prime??

3 months of letting Krrang Prime just lay there on the street?? No...I don't think so....XD

[IndigoErth]

Most humans are pretty incapable in the Turtles' world? I suppose they could have been taken down before fully understanding what they were up against, but that's kinda stupid of them.

[victory_angel]

Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.

Maybe the EPF that went to New York have been Kraangitized. So they just have a Government Quarantine.

[JTH]

The EPF are meant to stop other human forces.

The alien forces are supposed to be left to the Men In Black... :P

[ssjup81]

Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.No, it doesn't, but that's just a theory. Don't know how much weight or what weaponry or technology the EPF or gov't has at its disposal. They could have a lot of hidden technology kept from the public that they'd been working on in secret. That's plausible...likely...who knows, but plausible.

Who knows, maybe even Kurtzman helped them. He has way too much knowledge to the Kraang, imo, for someone not actually directly connected to them in some way.....you don't think they would have helped Kraang Prime??

3 months of letting Krrang Prime just lay there on the street?? No...I don't think so....XDThe keyword there was "convoluted". :lol:

I didn't say they didn't try to help him...her...it...but that he/she/it has been knocked out for these past few months and the Kraang are too stupid to think or do anything on their owns without receiving further instructions from Kraang Prime.

Personally, back in season 1, I found it ironic how they're a bunch of brains, yet they aren't too bright...and for the life of me, I can't remember what happened for me to get that impression.

[NinjaPug]

Eh, New York will probably be in the same state it was when the Turtles fled. My guess is that the EPF has kept the Kraang in check to a certain degree so they weren't able to complete their worldwide invasion. Basically, they've been fighting each other for 3 months with no progress on either side.

[Leo656]

Because this show....

.... is Stupid.

I've given it a chance. It peaked really early in Season 1, and now it's just swishing around. Their focus is all over the place, but never where it should be, they don't even pretend there's any logic to anything, "Because It's A Kids' Show, Yo", and... it's just really really dumb. There's good stuff IN it but it's not a "good show". Sometimes it's downright maddening.

"Good Enough" for little, little kids, but it's just getting ridiculous now.

[Electric]

ill throw in my 2 cents, as in, i have 2 thoughts:

1. we'll see scenes of the epf fighting the kraang. as the turtles return, theyll see barricades of epf soldiers, tanks or whatever, maybe see battles going on.

2. we'll see the epf mutated, like mutated epf soldiers, tanks etc, showing that the kraan were too strong for them

[ssjup81]

ill throw in my 2 cents, as in, i have 2 thoughts:

1. we'll see scenes of the epf fighting the kraang. as the turtles return, theyll see barricades of epf soldiers, tanks or whatever, maybe see battles going on.

2. we'll see the epf mutated, like mutated epf soldiers, tanks etc, showing that the kraan were too strong for themOn your second point there, if that is the case, then the Kraang should've been able to expand to other places quite easily.

[CaliperCat]

Eh, New York will probably be in the same state it was when the Turtles fled. My guess is that the EPF has kept the Kraang in check to a certain degree so they weren't able to complete their worldwide invasion. Basically, they've been fighting each other for 3 months with no progress on either side.

This seems like a really plausible concept to me. The Kraang invasion occurred so quickly that it's pretty possible that they managed to Kraangify all of New York before anyone could do much about it. It's quite possible the government has been trying to fight against the Kraang, and every force they send to fight them ends up getting Krangified. Thus, they contain the invasion, but don't actually make any headway in stopping it.

[Gunstar_Red]

This sounds vaguely like Raccoon City in the Resident Evil series. It took the government about 4 months to find that the city was unsalvagable before they blew it off the map. But that's after they threw special military teams in the "fire" (not to mention Umbrella also had disastrous results in their efforts in whatever they were doing there). During those 4 months, the government was lying to the rest of the country and world saying it was just a quarantined area because of nothing more than radiation.

Then again, it's easy to cover up an infestation of a small city than a large, well-known one. But what am trying to say is, while it's reaching to think a city that has so much going on under the world's nose didn't get found out sooner by the public or that the government failed miserably in controling an outbreak (or in this case, an invasion), this isn't the first franchise that did this. Raccoon's story didn't turn out that bad for holding a bit of disbelief, did it?

In summary, as mentioned before, the EPF has been barely keeping the Krang in check until now. For the past 3-5 months, NYC has become a battlefield or (at "best") a no mans land.

[ssjup81]

This sounds vaguely like Raccoon City in the Resident Evil series. It took the government about 4 months to find that the city was unsalvagable before they blew it off the map. But that's after they threw special military teams in the "fire" (not to mention Umbrella also had disastrous results in their efforts in whatever they were doing there). During those 4 months, the government was lying to the rest of the country and world saying it was just a quarantined area because of nothing more than radiation.

Then again, it's easy to cover up an infestation of a small city than a large, well-known one. But what am trying to say is, while it's reaching to think a city that has so much going on under the world's nose didn't get found out sooner by the public or that the government failed miserably in controling an outbreak (or in this case, an invasion), this isn't the first franchise that did this. Raccoon's story didn't turn out that bad for holding a bit of disbelief, did it?

In summary, as mentioned before, the EPF has been barely keeping the Krang in check until now. For the past 3-5 months, NYC has become a battlefield or (at "best") a no mans land.This makes sense too. That's probably what happened, or something similar.

[Tarris Vaal]

Given that the EPF has barely appeared, let alone been mentioned it could be simply justified that they dont yet exist (or have only just come into existence).

The technodrome is the only large scale attack prior to New York's invasion that the government would have definitely noticed, and it was 'mysteriously' defeated without their intervention. It seems fair to assume they have noticed Kraang beforehand, but have kept it small scale and in the hands of existing intelligence services (or even a specialised one, but probably not one toting private armed forces)

That gives them 1 year to find the funding to decide to create an organisation specifically to fight aliens/The Kraang on a large scale. I find that unlikely anyone's government is that efficient when they have perfectly good normal armies to try first.

Its the Xcom effect again. Don't bother funding anything useful until after you already need it.

If you want a really cynical excuse, maybe its an election year and congress blocked EPF's funding to make the current president look bad. (perhaps the Kraang infiltrated them? If anyone can filibuster it has to be the Kraang)

[Zulithe]

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

[DarkFell]

Thanks for the spoiler. :b I never got around to seeing the third movie. Even my city's current events magazine razzed that movie

So Nick TMNT hit some skids huh? I think they might have some issues to deal with when the Turtles & Friends return. New York overrun by Kraang sounds too similar to what was used in I Am Legend, so I'm hoping that won't happen.

[newhire13]

The EPF could just as easily be the only reason the Kraang haven't spread any further. They could be in a stalemate with The Kraang or may have been defeated. It could be any number of reasons. Should probably just wait till the episodes air before panicking.

[Shiro Kame]

I have to agree that it is most likely that the EPF didn't exist until a year ago. The Kraang attack last year didn't cause as much devastation as this year's, so that's why the EPF couldn't stop them. They didn't fully know what they were capable of until the second invasion. Plus, the Kraang have the advantage of advanced technology and mutagen that can cause the soldiers to turn on each other, so that could be it.

[The Big Bad]

Given that the EPF has barely appeared, let alone been mentioned it could be simply justified that they dont yet exist (or have only just come into existence).

The technodrome is the only large scale attack prior to New York's invasion that the government would have definitely noticed, and it was 'mysteriously' defeated without their intervention. It seems fair to assume they have noticed Kraang beforehand, but have kept it small scale and in the hands of existing intelligence services (or even a specialised one, but probably not one toting private armed forces)

That gives them 1 year to find the funding to decide to create an organisation specifically to fight aliens/The Kraang on a large scale. I find that unlikely anyone's government is that efficient when they have perfectly good normal armies to try first.

Its the Xcom effect again. Don't bother funding anything useful until after you already need it.

If you want a really cynical excuse, maybe its an election year and congress blocked EPF's funding to make the current president look bad. (perhaps the Kraang infiltrated them? If anyone can filibuster it has to be the Kraang)

Except...the turtles have managed to keep the Kraang at bay since episode one, armed with nothing but basic martial arts weaponry. Given that, there's no reason why even conventional military weaponry shouldn't be effective against the Kraang.

[snake]

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

"You're a big guy!"

[Ninturtle]

I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

April and The turtles can take on Kraang droilds but not a ton of Kraang walkers and ships and a ton of Kraang tech.

[newhire13]

Except...the turtles have managed to keep the Kraang at bay since episode one, armed with nothing but basic martial arts weaponry. Given that, there's no reason why even conventional military weaponry shouldn't be effective against the Kraang.

Except we saw that the invasion is twice as big and that The turtles, April and Casey couldn't stop it.

[The Big Bad]

Except we saw that the invasion is twice as big and that The turtles, April and Casey couldn't stop it.

What does that have to do with anything? In no universe does "Turtles can't stop X" mean "no one can stop X". We've seen that cloaked Kraang ships can be spotted with conventional technology, and destroyed with conventional explosives. We've seen that Kraangdroids can be destroyed by the simplest of bladed weapons. We've seen that they have no sense of tactics and have been unable to take over the Earth in millions of years. The only reason why the Kraang are in any way a threat is because the series writers wouldn't know what consistency is if it were beating them on the head with a Merriam-Webster's.

[Luckyday]

Maybe it feel out of place if the EPF is the only organization out of those other three factions that is big and competent. I mean even Shredder has idiot ball moments plus he's a delusional loose cannon. The Hamato clan while being a little competent in their missions, are at a huge disadvantage because their group is just too small to spread out.

If I were Splinter, the next thing that I would do is to start an army. Find other mutants and train them, maybe even to select two turtles to act as lieutenants.

It's not the matter of having power like the Shredder, it's a matter of personal security, the greater good and efficiency.

[Bitsy83]

I can see why people are pointing out the flaws in this, but I'm just going to suspend my disbelief here and assume that the EPF evacuated the city of the non-Kraangified people and the Kraangified people were abducted by the Kraang to Dimension X for further experiments.

Also, this is going to sound really dark, but what if the EPF was responsible for taking out the infected people? Like maybe they handled them the way people handle zombies in movies and just....exterminated them? Sounds a bit rough for a kids show, but it's a possible theory.

[victory_angel]

I can see why people are pointing out the flaws in this, but I'm just going to suspend my disbelief here and assume that the EPF evacuated the city of the non-Kraangified people and the Kraangified people were abducted by the Kraang to Dimension X for further experiments.

Also, this is going to sound really dark, but what if the EPF was responsible for taking out the infected people? Like maybe they handled them the way people handle zombies in movies and just....exterminated them? Sounds a bit rough for a kids show, but it's a possible theory.

Or since this is a kids show...round up the mutated and put them in a facility so they can be experimented on all in the name of finding a cure to return them to normal.

And if worse comes to worse...euthanize all of them and cover it up saying that these people were part of the alien threat.

[Ninturtle]

What does that have to do with anything? In no universe does "Turtles can't stop X" mean "no one can stop X". We've seen that cloaked Kraang ships can be spotted with conventional technology, and destroyed with conventional explosives. We've seen that Kraangdroids can be destroyed by the simplest of bladed weapons. We've seen that they have no sense of tactics and have been unable to take over the Earth in millions of years. The only reason why the Kraang are in any way a threat is because the series writers wouldn't know what consistency is if it were beating them on the head with a Merriam-Webster's.

There's a ton of Kraang ships and walkers not just a few that's why they're a threat during this invasion.

[Konchadunga]

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

At least they tried to explain that, in that he was threatening the city with a bomb. Not exactly great explanation, but it's there.

The Kraang invasion is stupid no matter how it's skewed. If the Turtles can defeat them easily, the conventional military should be able to, but even if that military couldn't, that means the Kraang would start advancing elsewhere, which there's no evidence that they've done, either. The Turtles are also pretty irresponsible in that since they've been in Northampton, I don't remember them trying to learn what's happening elsewhere at any point.

[Tarris Vaal]

The Kraang have shown themselves to be adaptable and to throw around increasingly powerful technology to make up for the fact they cant hit a barn door at 2 paces. It may be that while conventional tech has been initially effective, they are adapting quickly and the EPF has only been able to contain them rather than eradicate them.

[The Big Bad]

There's a ton of Kraang ships and walkers not just a few that's why they're a threat during this invasion.

To the turtles. That doesn't mean they're a threat to a conventional army, of which there is also, by the by, quite a lot of. The U.S. is kind of famous for it, in fact. Remember how the turtles went to quite a bit of trouble to get a rocket launcher? Not a problem, for the army.