Wait, What?

*snake* · 01-19-2015, 07:37 PM

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Episode 10 description:

S03, E10 Serpent Hunt
As the Turtles search for Karai, they are forced to deal with a city filled with Kraangdroids as well as Zeck and Steranko.
2/01/2015

I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

*CyberCubed* · 01-19-2015, 07:39 PM

Because the writers will treat it like no time has passed since the Turtles left. When in reality if NYC was ever taken over by aliens the entire U.S. government would be there on lockdown.

*snake* · 01-19-2015, 07:40 PM

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Because the writers will treat it like no time has passed since the Turtles left. When in reality if NYC was ever taken over by aliens the entire U.S. government would be there on lockdown.

Does the rest of the world know about the invasion? It's pretty hard to cover something like this up.

*BabyTurtles* · 01-19-2015, 07:40 PM

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I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

*ssjup81* · 01-19-2015, 07:44 PM

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My theory is that the EPF has some how quarantined the city off, preventing people from entering and exiting somehow and the Kraang can't get out, or either their mutagen isn't all that perfected after all and they're working on it, or either Leatherhead is thwarting their plans from expanding and conquering other areas along with what this incarnation's version of the "Mutanimals" might be, which may include Slash and the Newtralizer. This could also be the case as to why no news reports about the Kraang have been mentioned on TV. EPF covering it up. Who knows.

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Ya that's what I mean. Even if Leatherhead or anyone else was fighting back I assume the Kraang could unleash an army big enough to out do anybody. Like they don't have the ability to open portals anywhere else in the world or at least country?

I always like to give the benefit of the doubt and suspension of disbelief to a certain point but it's just weird they're bound to NY. Well we will seen next week.

How's this for a convoluted theory. Kraang Prime was knocked out when Casey hit him..her? with the party wagon. Maybe Kraang Prime is unconscious and the other Kraang are too stupid to do anything on their owns without Kraang Prime's instructions and leadership and Gilber Godfrey Kraang was killed...so maybe there isn't a third in command to take over and give instructions if Roseanne and Gilbert Kraang aren't around. The last instructions they received was to Kraangify the inhabitants of NYC and that's why they haven't gone beyond that point.

*victory_angel* · 01-19-2015, 07:46 PM

In order to prevent a nation wide panic the Government would use any bull that the general public is willing to swallow.

*snake* · 01-19-2015, 07:47 PM

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*quotes self*

Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.

*BabyTurtles* · 01-19-2015, 07:47 PM

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....you don't think they would have helped Kraang Prime??

3 months of letting Krrang Prime just lay there on the street?? No...I don't think so....XD

*IndigoErth* · 01-19-2015, 07:49 PM

Most humans are pretty incapable in the Turtles' world? I suppose they could have been taken down before fully understanding what they were up against, but that's kinda stupid of them.

*victory_angel* · 01-19-2015, 07:49 PM

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Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.

Maybe the EPF that went to New York have been Kraangitized. So they just have a Government Quarantine.

*JTH* · 01-19-2015, 07:58 PM

The EPF are meant to stop other human forces.

The alien forces are supposed to be left to the Men In Black...

*ssjup81* · 01-19-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

Still doesn't explain how the EPF can't take them out.

No, it doesn't, but that's just a theory. Don't know how much weight or what weaponry or technology the EPF or gov't has at its disposal. They could have a lot of hidden technology kept from the public that they'd been working on in secret. That's plausible...likely...who knows, but plausible.

Who knows, maybe even Kurtzman helped them. He has way too much knowledge to the Kraang, imo, for someone not actually directly connected to them in some way.

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....you don't think they would have helped Kraang Prime??

3 months of letting Krrang Prime just lay there on the street?? No...I don't think so....XD

The keyword there was "convoluted".

I didn't say they didn't try to help him...her...it...but that he/she/it has been knocked out for these past few months and the Kraang are too stupid to think or do anything on their owns without receiving further instructions from Kraang Prime.

Personally, back in season 1, I found it ironic how they're a bunch of brains, yet they aren't too bright...and for the life of me, I can't remember what happened for me to get that impression.

*NinjaPug* · 01-19-2015, 08:17 PM

Eh, New York will probably be in the same state it was when the Turtles fled. My guess is that the EPF has kept the Kraang in check to a certain degree so they weren't able to complete their worldwide invasion. Basically, they've been fighting each other for 3 months with no progress on either side.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-19-2015, 09:16 PM

Because this show....

.... is Stupid.

I've given it a chance. It peaked really early in Season 1, and now it's just swishing around. Their focus is all over the place, but never where it should be, they don't even pretend there's any logic to anything, "Because It's A Kids' Show, Yo", and... it's just really really dumb. There's good stuff IN it but it's not a "good show". Sometimes it's downright maddening.

"Good Enough" for little, little kids, but it's just getting ridiculous now.

*Electric* · 01-19-2015, 09:26 PM

ill throw in my 2 cents, as in, i have 2 thoughts:

1. we'll see scenes of the epf fighting the kraang. as the turtles return, theyll see barricades of epf soldiers, tanks or whatever, maybe see battles going on.

2. we'll see the epf mutated, like mutated epf soldiers, tanks etc, showing that the kraan were too strong for them

*ssjup81* · 01-19-2015, 09:29 PM

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ill throw in my 2 cents, as in, i have 2 thoughts:

1. we'll see scenes of the epf fighting the kraang. as the turtles return, theyll see barricades of epf soldiers, tanks or whatever, maybe see battles going on.

2. we'll see the epf mutated, like mutated epf soldiers, tanks etc, showing that the kraan were too strong for them

On your second point there, if that is the case, then the Kraang should've been able to expand to other places quite easily.

CaliperCat · 01-19-2015, 09:45 PM

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Eh, New York will probably be in the same state it was when the Turtles fled. My guess is that the EPF has kept the Kraang in check to a certain degree so they weren't able to complete their worldwide invasion. Basically, they've been fighting each other for 3 months with no progress on either side.

This seems like a really plausible concept to me. The Kraang invasion occurred so quickly that it's pretty possible that they managed to Kraangify all of New York before anyone could do much about it. It's quite possible the government has been trying to fight against the Kraang, and every force they send to fight them ends up getting Krangified. Thus, they contain the invasion, but don't actually make any headway in stopping it.

Gunstar_Red · 01-19-2015, 10:17 PM

This sounds vaguely like Raccoon City in the Resident Evil series. It took the government about 4 months to find that the city was unsalvagable before they blew it off the map. But that's after they threw special military teams in the "fire" (not to mention Umbrella also had disastrous results in their efforts in whatever they were doing there). During those 4 months, the government was lying to the rest of the country and world saying it was just a quarantined area because of nothing more than radiation.

Then again, it's easy to cover up an infestation of a small city than a large, well-known one. But what am trying to say is, while it's reaching to think a city that has so much going on under the world's nose didn't get found out sooner by the public or that the government failed miserably in controling an outbreak (or in this case, an invasion), this isn't the first franchise that did this. Raccoon's story didn't turn out that bad for holding a bit of disbelief, did it?

In summary, as mentioned before, the EPF has been barely keeping the Krang in check until now. For the past 3-5 months, NYC has become a battlefield or (at "best") a no mans land.

*ssjup81* · 01-19-2015, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunstar_Red

This sounds vaguely like Raccoon City in the Resident Evil series. It took the government about 4 months to find that the city was unsalvagable before they blew it off the map. But that's after they threw special military teams in the "fire" (not to mention Umbrella also had disastrous results in their efforts in whatever they were doing there). During those 4 months, the government was lying to the rest of the country and world saying it was just a quarantined area because of nothing more than radiation.

Then again, it's easy to cover up an infestation of a small city than a large, well-known one. But what am trying to say is, while it's reaching to think a city that has so much going on under the world's nose didn't get found out sooner by the public or that the government failed miserably in controling an outbreak (or in this case, an invasion), this isn't the first franchise that did this. Raccoon's story didn't turn out that bad for holding a bit of disbelief, did it?

In summary, as mentioned before, the EPF has been barely keeping the Krang in check until now. For the past 3-5 months, NYC has become a battlefield or (at "best") a no mans land.

This makes sense too. That's probably what happened, or something similar.

Tarris Vaal · 01-20-2015, 02:37 AM

Given that the EPF has barely appeared, let alone been mentioned it could be simply justified that they dont yet exist (or have only just come into existence).

The technodrome is the only large scale attack prior to New York's invasion that the government would have definitely noticed, and it was 'mysteriously' defeated without their intervention. It seems fair to assume they have noticed Kraang beforehand, but have kept it small scale and in the hands of existing intelligence services (or even a specialised one, but probably not one toting private armed forces)

That gives them 1 year to find the funding to decide to create an organisation specifically to fight aliens/The Kraang on a large scale. I find that unlikely anyone's government is that efficient when they have perfectly good normal armies to try first.

Its the Xcom effect again. Don't bother funding anything useful until after you already need it.

If you want a really cynical excuse, maybe its an election year and congress blocked EPF's funding to make the current president look bad. (perhaps the Kraang infiltrated them? If anyone can filibuster it has to be the Kraang)

01-19-2015, 07:46 PM	#6
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	In order to prevent a nation wide panic the Government would use any bull that the general public is willing to swallow. __________________

01-19-2015, 09:26 PM	#15
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	ill throw in my 2 cents, as in, i have 2 thoughts: 1. we'll see scenes of the epf fighting the kraang. as the turtles return, theyll see barricades of epf soldiers, tanks or whatever, maybe see battles going on. 2. we'll see the epf mutated, like mutated epf soldiers, tanks etc, showing that the kraan were too strong for them __________________

01-19-2015, 10:17 PM	#18
Gunstar_Red Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Satellite of Love Posts: 225	This sounds vaguely like Raccoon City in the Resident Evil series. It took the government about 4 months to find that the city was unsalvagable before they blew it off the map. But that's after they threw special military teams in the "fire" (not to mention Umbrella also had disastrous results in their efforts in whatever they were doing there). During those 4 months, the government was lying to the rest of the country and world saying it was just a quarantined area because of nothing more than radiation. Then again, it's easy to cover up an infestation of a small city than a large, well-known one. But what am trying to say is, while it's reaching to think a city that has so much going on under the world's nose didn't get found out sooner by the public or that the government failed miserably in controling an outbreak (or in this case, an invasion), this isn't the first franchise that did this. Raccoon's story didn't turn out that bad for holding a bit of disbelief, did it? In summary, as mentioned before, the EPF has been barely keeping the Krang in check until now. For the past 3-5 months, NYC has become a battlefield or (at "best") a no mans land. __________________ "Things change and life is, at best, bittersweet." "Surrender to the fact that life isn't fair."

01-19-2015, 07:39 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,831	Because the writers will treat it like no time has passed since the Turtles left. When in reality if NYC was ever taken over by aliens the entire U.S. government would be there on lockdown.

01-19-2015, 07:49 PM	#9
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Most humans are pretty incapable in the Turtles' world? I suppose they could have been taken down before fully understanding what they were up against, but that's kinda stupid of them.

01-19-2015, 07:58 PM	#11
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	The EPF are meant to stop other human forces. The alien forces are supposed to be left to the Men In Black...

01-19-2015, 08:17 PM	#13
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Eh, New York will probably be in the same state it was when the Turtles fled. My guess is that the EPF has kept the Kraang in check to a certain degree so they weren't able to complete their worldwide invasion. Basically, they've been fighting each other for 3 months with no progress on either side.

01-19-2015, 09:16 PM	#14
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Because this show.... .... is Stupid. I've given it a chance. It peaked really early in Season 1, and now it's just swishing around. Their focus is all over the place, but never where it should be, they don't even pretend there's any logic to anything, "Because It's A Kids' Show, Yo", and... it's just really really dumb. There's good stuff IN it but it's not a "good show". Sometimes it's downright maddening. "Good Enough" for little, little kids, but it's just getting ridiculous now.

01-20-2015, 02:37 AM	#20
Tarris Vaal Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cullompton, Devon Posts: 505	Given that the EPF has barely appeared, let alone been mentioned it could be simply justified that they dont yet exist (or have only just come into existence). The technodrome is the only large scale attack prior to New York's invasion that the government would have definitely noticed, and it was 'mysteriously' defeated without their intervention. It seems fair to assume they have noticed Kraang beforehand, but have kept it small scale and in the hands of existing intelligence services (or even a specialised one, but probably not one toting private armed forces) That gives them 1 year to find the funding to decide to create an organisation specifically to fight aliens/The Kraang on a large scale. I find that unlikely anyone's government is that efficient when they have perfectly good normal armies to try first. Its the Xcom effect again. Don't bother funding anything useful until after you already need it. If you want a really cynical excuse, maybe its an election year and congress blocked EPF's funding to make the current president look bad. (perhaps the Kraang infiltrated them? If anyone can filibuster it has to be the Kraang)