Disney's Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016)

[ranger_scout]

I've brought up this film in a few threads, so I might as well create a topic about it here. On May 27, 2016, Disney will be releasing a sequel to their 2010 blockbuster, Alice in Wonderland. The film, Alice Through the Looking Glass, which will be based on Lewis Caroll's second story, Through The Looking Glass. The majority of actors who played the live-action roles in the previous film will return including Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, Mia Wasikowska as Alice, Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen, and Anne Hathaway as the White Queen. The actors who did the voices for the CGI characters are expected to come back as well. Sacha Baron Cohen has also joined the film as Father Time and Rhys Ifans will be playing the Mad Hatter's Father.

D23 also debuted these posters today.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMYoFFVUcAAZpxM-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMYoFFiUAAAz-Kf-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2015/08/photos-first-alice-through-the-looking-glass-posters-released-from-walt-disney-studios/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I've brought up this film in a few threads, so I might as well create a topic about it here. On May 27, 2016, Disney will be releasing a sequel to their 2010 blockbuster, Alice in Wonderland. The film, Alice Through the Looking Glass, will be based on Lewis Caroll's second story, Through The Looking Glass. The majority of actors who played the live-action roles in the previous film will return including Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, Mia Wasikowska as Alice, Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen, and Anne Hathaway as the White Queen. The actors who did the voices for the CGI characters are expected to come back as well. Sacha Baron Cohen has also joined the film as Father Time and Rhys Ifans will be playing the Mad Hatter's Father.

D23 also debuted these posters today.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMYoFFVUcAAZpxM-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMYoFFiUAAAz-Kf-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2015/08/photos-first-alice-through-the-looking-glass-posters-released-from-walt-disney-studios/

I despise Lewis Carroll and this particular incarnation of the story, but those are pretty slick posters. Very artistic, I approve. :tsmile:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Not like Lewis Carroll? Why? I mean, opium habit aside....

[PangolinFeets]

I used to love Wonderland and Neverland stories but Christ, am I sick of them.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Hmm, wouldn't it be interesting if they were both part of the same "world"- but just different parts of it? Ah, my inner writer is popping in to say hi again, it seems.

[PangolinFeets]

I read a comic called Lullaby a while back that had that basic concept. It was really cool, but it got canned.

Like I said, I used to love these stories but there have been so many movies, books, comics, plays, shows, etc... I just want them to move on.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Not like Lewis Carroll? Why? I mean, opium habit aside....

Pedophilic undertones plus I'm convinced Carroll is the man who discovered LSD.

And finally, I loathe a man who fills an entire book with no plot, no characterization, and no sense. There is no logical plot progression or anything, just a bunch of random $hit going on.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I think we can blame that on the opium. And no, he wasn't the one to discover LSD- though he might have eaten an ergot-infected loaf of rye bread once or twice. It is the main "ingredient" in LSD. Caused a lot of the hallucinations in Salem, so maybe that's his reason?

Never noticed any pedophilic undertones in his work, myself, though. Might as well hate John Dunne, too. Some of his poems are pretty nonsensical, too.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think we can blame that on the opium. And no, he wasn't the one to discover LSD- though he might have eaten an ergot-infected loaf of rye bread once or twice. It is the main "ingredient" in LSD. Caused a lot of the hallucinations in Salem, so maybe that's his reason?

Never noticed any pedophilic undertones in his work, myself, though. Might as well hate John Dunne, too. Some of his poems are pretty nonsensical, too.

:tlol: I haven't been able to reread his stuff long before I was hearing people label it as having "pedo undertones", and I'll fully admit I'll be quite hostile in describing his stuff (mainly because it drives my sister up the wall).

But an author who writes nothing but pointless literary anarchy without real structure or purpose... that's not something I forget or forgive. There are only three books I've ever written that were an absolute waste of time and paper, and Carroll wrote two of them. (Yes, somehow I had managed to convince myself that Through the Looking Glass would be different.)

[drgon78]

It's about time they got started on this one. I loved the first one, can't wait to see it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno, I've never had a problem with em. I guess it's because I get stream of conciousness writing, which is essentially what they were. Sort of like "A rose is a rose is a rose..." type stuff. Studied the style in high school, and found it interesting, if not always easy to grasp. Carroll was just a bit ahead of his time, I guess.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I dunno, I've never had a problem with em. I guess it's because I get stream of conciousness writing, which is essentially what they were. Sort of like "A rose is a rose is a rose..." type stuff. Studied the style in high school, and found it interesting, if not always easy to grasp. Carroll was just a bit ahead of his time, I guess.

I think there's a difference between stream-of-consciousness and what Carroll wrote.

To contrast, look at Douglas' Adams' style of writing: the plot and characters messily go all over the place, sometimes nowhere, sometimes somewhere... but there's always something at the end of the road.

For me, Carroll's works are the equivalent of driving through a strange city, wanting to go somewhere but not knowing how to get there or even where you're going. You drive and drive past bizarre sights and landmarks, and at the end of the journey, you've emerged on the other side of the city with nothing to show for your effort and time.

That's how I feel about him, anyway; and since none of you are my sister whom I love to tease, I'll try not to piss on anyone's cookies while I'm here. :tlol:

[Allio]

it's sad I'm more looking forward to Zombie Wonderland than this movie

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[ranger_scout]

When I was a little kid I would watch scenes from the 1951 Walt Disney film on Disney Sing-Along Songs videos. However, I did not see the whole film until I was in fourth grade. After watching all of it I was not crazy about the movie, but over the years it has become my favorite adaptation of this story. I know the 2010 film got mixed reviews but I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a completely different take on the story and it was also a visual treat.

Today, Johnny Depp was also named a Disney Legend for his contributions to the company such as being a part of this film franchise, the Pirates of the Caribbean film series, and Into the Woods.

http://variety.com/2015/scene/news/johnny-depp-disney-george-lucas-disney-legend-honorees-1201569849/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I think there's a difference between stream-of-consciousness and what Carroll wrote.

To contrast, look at Douglas' Adams' style of writing: the plot and characters messily go all over the place, sometimes nowhere, sometimes somewhere... but there's always something at the end of the road.

For me, Carroll's works are the equivalent of driving through a strange city, wanting to go somewhere but not knowing how to get there or even where you're going. You drive and drive past bizarre sights and landmarks, and at the end of the journey, you've emerged on the other side of the city with nothing to show for your effort and time.

That's how I feel about him, anyway; and since none of you are my sister whom I love to tease, I'll try not to piss on anyone's cookies while I'm here. :tlol:


Mmm, actually I was thinking more along the lines of Gertrude Stein, and other purveyors of nonsensical literature, ie-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_nonsense

The nursery rhyme Hey, Diddle Diddle is a prime example, and many limericks are as well. It's literary nonsense drivel, but that's the point. It's not really supposed to make sense, because it throws the conventional rules of language and literature, and throws them out the window. There have been many other writers who used the same ideas in their writing, and Carroll was simply one of them- though certainly it's been around much longer.

As for Carroll's personal tendencies, I will leave these, which may or may not clear up the question of reputation....

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/lewis-carrolls-shifting-reputation-9432378/?no-ist=&amp=&amp=&page=1

http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/carroll/dreamchild/dreamchild5.html

http://www.wakeling.demon.co.uk/page3-real-lewiscarroll.htm

[drgon78]

I do love those posters.

[ranger_scout]

Here is some of the stuff that was teased at D23 Expo.

http://photos.mouseinfo.com/Events/D23-EXPO-2015/D23-EXPO-2015-Day-1-Friday/i-bvjQr44/0/L/IMG_0169-M.jpg

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http://photos.mouseinfo.com/Events/D23-EXPO-2015/D23-EXPO-2015-Day-1-Friday/i-TqBvNtc/0/L/IMG_0230-M.jpg

http://photos.mouseinfo.com/Events/D23-EXPO-2015/D23-EXPO-2015-Day-1-Friday/i-89KvVDH/0/L/IMG_0231-M.jpg

http://www.mouseinfo.com/new/2015/08/pics-alice-through-the-looking-glass-teased-at-d23expo/

[drgon78]

I wonder if any of those outfits will be for Alice herself or just various characters.

[Leo656]

I've always said some things work better in animation than live action, and I'm pretty sure Alice stuff is a pretty good example. I like the old Disney animated one fine but I've never seen a live-action interpretation of it that I really liked. I really don't care much for the Depp one at all. Not surprised they're doing another one, though, the first one made money. And it's a good excuse to use bad, excessive CGI everywhere like they love to do nowadays, so of course.

Meh. Pass.

[ranger_scout]

Here is a brief interview that Mia Wasikowska did at D23.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/472783-d23-interview-mia-wasikowska-on-alice-through-the-looking-glass#/slide/1

[ranger_scout]

First footage has been released.

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http://comicbook.com/2015/08/11/alice-through-the-looking-glass-trailer-released/

[Amaranthus]

Never noticed any pedophilic undertones in his work, myself, though. Might as well hate John Dunne, too. Some of his poems are pretty nonsensical, too.

Ahem.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Hatch%2C_Beatrice_%28Lewis_Carroll%2C_30.07.1873%2 9.jpg/800px-Hatch%2C_Beatrice_%28Lewis_Carroll%2C_30.07.1873%2 9.jpg

[drgon78]

I wish it was more then 10 seconds but still interesting none the less.

[Commenter 42]

...

For me, Carroll's works are the equivalent of driving through a strange city, wanting to go somewhere but not knowing how to get there or even where you're going. You drive and drive past bizarre sights and landmarks, and at the end of the journey, you've emerged on the other side of the city with nothing to show for your effort and time.

That's how I feel about him, anyway; and since none of you are my sister whom I love to tease, I'll try not to piss on anyone's cookies while I'm here. :tlol:

You kind of did, and your drastically misreading the narrative. It's not pedophilic, but it does addresse adolescence, and the emotions tied up with entering that phase of life.

Then here, let me piss on your cookies;

The Prestige
Inception
Dark Knight Rises
MOS
Interstellar

All pointless, baseless, narratives, in love with how smart they think they are.

Awful strange how you dump on Carroll, but defend Nolan. The guy is guilty of essentially the same thing, but with more "smug".

[ranger_scout]

Teaser #2 is here.

http://comicbook.com/2015/11/02/alice-through-the-looking-glass-teaser-2-released/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You kind of did, and your drastically misreading the narrative. It's not pedophilic, but it does addresse adolescence, and the emotions tied up with entering that phase of life.

Then here, let me piss on your cookies;

The Prestige
Inception
Dark Knight Rises
MOS
Interstellar

All pointless, baseless, narratives, in love with how smart they think they are.

Awful strange how you dump on Carroll, but defend Nolan. The guy is guilty of essentially the same thing, but with more "smug".

You're trying to chase me off like Leo but it's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

No pseudopedo or LSD in any of Nolan's stuff. And I will not continue discussing unrelated movies on this thread.

[ranger_scout]

Inside the Magic believes that the film's box office performance could decline due to James Bobin taking over as director and facing competition from X-Men: Apocalypse, Angry Birds, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II.

However, most fans will be unhappy to hear that Burton did not return to direct the Alice sequel. That duty instead fell to James Bobin. Bobin is most known for his work as the director of “The Muppets” and “Muppets Most Wanted”, making his choice an interesting one. His work is mostly based in comedy, and given the types of gags used in the first film, this might be a solid choice. The footage in the teasers looks to be on par with some of the visuals in the original film, so one could argue that Bobin will not represent a drop off from Burton.

On the other hand, Bobin’s style is obviously very different from what Burton has represented. While he can likely imitate Burton well, the movie may struggle because Bobin will not be able to take his own spin on the characters. Considering that many Burton favorites, such as Helena Bonham Carter, Sacha Baron Cohen, and Alan Rickman will all be starring in the film, its hard to imagine that Bobin will be given too much license.

Another potential issue that stands in the way for the film is the release date. It’s been six years since the first film, which is certainly not ideal when trying to build a franchise. Also, while the original film released in the doldrums of March, this iteration releases on May 27th, in the middle of a summer of blockbusters. In fact, it shares the same weekend as 20th Century Fox’s “X-Men: Apocalypse”. The two can likely co-exist as there shouldn’t be too much audience cross-over, but with “Angry Birds” releasing the weekend before and “Teenage Mutant Turtles 2” releasing not long after, box office returns might be slightly lower than the last film.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2015/11/alice-through-the-looking-glass-gets-new-teaser-trailer/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Ahem.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Hatch%2C_Beatrice_%28Lewis_Carroll%2C_30.07.1873%2 9.jpg/800px-Hatch%2C_Beatrice_%28Lewis_Carroll%2C_30.07.1873%2 9.jpg

First off, I was referring to his writing, not any artwork that may be used in any edition of the books. Secondly, any pedophilic rep he may have gained is in retrospect regarding his photography work, NOT his writing. Also, photographing children "au naturel" was a common theme at the time, and was considered an artform akin to paintings of naked cherub babies. Apparently, his attachment to the children of a friend has retroactively labeled him as a pedo, though whether it was true or not has long been up for debate. And the real-life "Alice" was 14 at the time the first book was written, which would have been considered old enough to marry in many places.

[Commenter 42]

You're trying to chase me off like Leo but it's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

No pseudopedo or LSD in any of Nolan's stuff. And I will not continue discussing unrelated movies on this thread.

Only pointing out the hypocrisy. Lot's of folks bang on about how this or that has short comings, when the thing they praise is just the same. I find it amusing to be honest, because it lays bare the societal bias. You don't like Nolan so much as you've been told to like him - He helps to define your personal brand as an individual - and that's totally cool, but he's a hopelessly feeble storyteller, guilty of the exactly the same crimes as Carroll.

But I'm telling tales out of school again.

Personally, I think you're mis-interpreting the subject matter, but that's me.
It's a classic for a reason. It's difficult subject matter for sure, but pedo it sure isn't.

That said, I think Burton missed the mark, and yeah, I've yet to see a live action version that does what it should with the story. Too bad really.
But I'm biased against Burton, so maybe it's better than I'm giving it credit for.

I take that back, I'm really not biased against burton - I'm just sick of his over use of stripes, gothic everything, Helena Bonham Carter, and Johnny Derp.

And the real-life "Alice" was 14 at the time the first book was written, which would have been considered old enough to marry in many places.

^Bingo^

The story at it's root is more about the expectations of a young girl who comes of age, and her flat out rejection of those realities. I think most of us can relate to not wanting to grow up.

[ranger_scout]

The time has come to return to Wonderland. The trailer is here.

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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/629633-its-time-the-alice-through-the-looking-glass-trailer-is-here#/slide/1

[Vicky82]

The time has come to return to Wonderland. The trailer is here.

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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/629633-its-time-the-alice-through-the-looking-glass-trailer-is-here#/slide/1

Doesn't appeal to me.

I'm surprised the Civil War trailer isn't out yet but I'm guessing it's coming out with Star Wars.

[Allio]

reminds me i need to work on my "Wonderland vs Oz" book

[Commenter 42]

It's really hard to know who they're making this for. I know the last one made over a billion, but I'd be surprised if this one does half that.

Not my cup of tea, at all.

[ranger_scout]

Here are the character images.

http://i1.wp.com/photos.mouseinfo.com/photos/i-hNQjtms/0/XL/i-hNQjtms-L.png?w=400

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http://www.mouseinfo.com/new/2015/11/first-look-of-character-images-from-alice-through-the-looking-glass/

[ranger_scout]

Comingsoon.net listed it as one of the big films to look forward too in 2016. They released this description and screenshot.

When Mia Wasikowska's Alice Kingsleigh finds an enchanted piece of glass, she's magically whisked back to the fantastical realm of Underland, where all her old friends (White Rabbit, Cheshire Cat, Johnny Depp and his many weird hats) are waiting for her to help them literally save time itself. The Muppets helmer James Bobin takes over from Tim Burton with the promise of much more practical sets and effects than the previous film.

http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/the-big-2016-movie-preview/alice-through-the-looking-glass-trailer-1.jpg

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/644367-the-big-2016-movie-preview?slideshow=126919#/slide/9

[ranger_scout]

A brand new TV spot debuted.

http://comicbook.com/2016/02/01/alice-through-the-looking-glass-tv-spot-released-/

[ranger_scout]

Entertainment Weekly listed the film as one of the twenty most anticipated book-to-movie adaptations this year.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2016/01/21/through-the-looking-glass.jpg

The lesser-known sequel to Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland sees our curious heroine slipping not down a rabbit hole, but through to the other side of the mirror, landing in a topsy-turvy new world. Mia Wasikowska reprises her role in Tim Burton’s remake.

http://www.ew.com/gallery/2016-most-anticipated-adaptations/2454013_through-looking-glass-lewis-carroll

[Leo656]

There's 20 of those this year? Wow. :lol:

Article was being a piece of sh*t so I didn't get to see what the other ones are.

[ranger_scout]

And it's a good excuse to use bad, excessive CGI everywhere like they love to do nowadays, so of course.

Meh. Pass.

Mia Wasikowska (Alice) talked about the differences between this film and its predecessor in an interview last summer. Some of the changes include less CGI and more sets than the last film.

CS: Is “Alice Through the Looking Glass” finished or do you still have reshoots to do?

Wasikowska: No, we finished that last year in November. I guess they’ll be in post on that forever and it’ll resurface when I’m 39 and I’ll go do a press tour.

CS: How is James Bobin changing the equation from what Tim did on the first one?

Wasikowska: Oh he’s great, he has a very different… the emotion of the characters is very important to him, he sort of pushed us in a different way, which was great. Also we had a lot more sets on this one so that was really fun to have more interactive sets. The first “Alice” was 90% green screen so it was quite fun to be part of a world.

CS: Tom Hardy remarked while he made “The Dark Knight Rises” that it was like working at Starbucks. Big sets can feel very impersonal, so how do you engage yourself in something as big and corporate like “Alice 2″ the same way you would on something like “Madame Bovary?”

Wasikowska: They are slightly different environments but I engage myself in other things! (laughs) As long as you’re prepared for when they start filming. I like to read books and talk to people. I guess the main difference is it’s just a little slower. On “Madame Bovary” you’re rushing to get all the shots in a day, and on “Alice” it’s the same, you’re rushing to get shots but if you don’t get them it doesn’t matter as much ’cause they can add another day.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/449087-interview-mia-wasikowska-puts-the-corset-back-on-for-madame-bovary#/slide/1

There's 20 of those this year? Wow. :lol:

Article was being a piece of sh*t so I didn't get to see what the other ones are.

If you click the left arrow on the picture, you can see the other films. That slide was the last one.

[drgon78]

I do like the look of the film though I wish the villain of the story was a evil Alice, or at least you think is evil. Maybe she would have to except both her light and dark selves to become a whole person.

[ranger_scout]

Disney debuted two new TV spots. Both of them focus on Helena Bonham Carter's character, Iracebeth of Crims AKA The Red Queen.

http://comicbook.com/2016/02/14/valentines-day-tv-spots-for-disneys-alice-through-the-looking-gl/

[ranger_scout]

Brand new poster and trailer have debuted.

http://cdn3-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/alice-through-the-looking-glass/alicettlg_payoff_1-sht_v13_sm.jpg

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/657313-alice-through-the-looking-glass-poster#/slide/1

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http://comicbook.com/2016/02/16/alice-through-the-looking-glass-second-trailer-released/

[drgon78]

The Cheshire Cat looks a lot younger.

[plastroncafe]

"Go Ask Alice" is an interesting choice of song to use in a trailer for a kid's movie.

[drgon78]

They should have switched Alice and the Hatters locations on the poster since Alice is supposed to be the main character.

[Utrommaniac]

They should have switched Alice and the Hatters locations on the poster since Alice is supposed to be the main character.

This is exactly my biggest problem with these movies! It even happened on the original.

Granted, I'm not really into Tim Burton's style, which was something of a push away from it initially, but putting the wrong character in the center didn't help at all.

And then they put Sascha Baron Cohen with Helena Bohham Carter a second time? I have a feeling that Les Mis was just the start for them as a duo.

It's so hard not to use the Nostalgia Critic song about them...

[drgon78]

Actually now that you say that I think they did do the same with the last movie poster.

[ranger_scout]

Disney released a new TV spot today.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/665931-where-does-the-time-go-the-new-alice-through-the-looking-glass-spot-is-here#/slide/1

[drgon78]

Well now we know what happened to the Knave of Hearts.

[ranger_scout]

Disney debuted a brand new trailer.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/671021-the-new-alice-through-the-looking-glass-trailer

[ranger_scout]

Pink will be releasing a new song "Just Like Fire" for the film's soundtrack.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/04/alice-through-looking-glass-pink-just-like-fire

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I know the first film was like marmite, people seem to either love or hate it. I think it was great, and I am looking really forward to this.

[ranger_scout]

Here is the director talking about Sacha Baron Cohen's character.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/07/alice-through-looking-glass-time

[ranger_scout]

Helena Bonham Carter reveals her favorite part about filming this movie.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/11/alice-through-looking-glass-helena-bonham-carter

[ranger_scout]

If any of you are planning on visiting Disney Parks in the next couple of months, you can catch 10 minute preview of the film.

Guests visiting Disney’s Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World and Disney’s California Adventure at Disneyland Resort on May 6th can take an early trip with Alice to Underland. Both parks will feature a 10 minute sneak peek of the new movie ‘Alice Through the Looking Glass’, a sequel to the first Alice in Wonderland movie.

At Disney California Adventure park, the preview of “Alice Through the Looking Glass” will be presented in 3D with special in-theater effects at the Sunset Showcase Theater (formerly Crown Jewel Theater). Guests at Disney’s Hollywood Studios will get to see this advance look at clips from the film as part of the One Man’s Dream attraction.

The preview will run from May 6th to June 12th.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/04/new-alice-through-the-looking-glass-preview-coming-to-disney-parks-on-may-6th/

[ranger_scout]

Disney has released the final trailer for the film. Plus, there are some new posters as well.

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http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/04/video-final-trailer-for-alice-through-the-looking-glass-released-with-new-character-posters/

[ranger_scout]

Here is a clip of Alice meeting the younger Mad Hatter.

http://www.etonline.com/movies/188225_alice_meets_the_mad_hatter_alice_through_th e_looking_glass_sneak_peek/

[drgon78]

I don't need more clips, previews, posters, etc. because I was already sold on this when it was announced. Though I do wish they didn't take so long to release a sequel.

[THGhost]

It looks good. I paid to see the first one and enjoyed it, so I'm looking forward to this one.

"Go Ask Alice" is an interesting choice of song to use in a trailer for a kid's movie.

I really like the song (it's actually called "White Rabbit" FYI), have no clue what it's about though. Why an "interesting" choice?

EDIT: Researched it a little - drug references. Well, the original story of Alice in Wonderland contained lots of those too. So I think White Rabbit is somewhat appropriate, not to mention that it heavily references Alice in Wonderland itself. :P Plus the song is about following your curiosity, which isn't always a bad thing.

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Comicbook.com posted a new clip along with the one I shared the other day.

http://comicbook.com/2016/05/08/2-alice-through-the-looking-glass-clips-released/

[Vicky82]

Still early days yet but Alice is getting bad reviews.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alice_in_wonderland_through_the_looking_glass/

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I don't care what reviews this gets, still looking forward to it.

[THGhost]

Still early days yet but Alice is getting bad reviews.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alice_in_wonderland_through_the_looking_glass/

So did the last one. I couldn't care less, this isn't exactly the kind of film that critics are meant to like.

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Johnny Depp surprised fans at Disneyland recently by playing the Mad Hatter in an interactive billboard with a hidden camera.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/11/johnny-depp-surprise-disneyland-alice-through-looking-glass

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Disney has released a new clip of Father Time with the Mad Hatter, the March Hare and the Dormouse has been released.

http://comicbook.com/2016/05/21/new-alice-through-the-looking-glass-clip-is-right-on-time/

[ranger_scout]

Still early days yet but Alice is getting bad reviews.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alice_in_wonderland_through_the_looking_glass/

It's score has actually improved to 48% and this is the critical consensus for it:

Alice Through the Looking Glass is just as visually impressive as its predecessor, but that isn't enough to cover for an underwhelming story that fails to live up to its classic characters.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alice_in_wonderland_through_the_looking_glass/

[ranger_scout]

I saw it this afternoon and honestly it wasn't all that great. It's score at Rotten Tomatoes is actually now at 28% and I can see why. The film was pretty to look at since there wasn't as much CGI and Wonderland/Underland looked really nice. However, the story wasn't interesting at all.

The main problem is that its screenwriter, Linda Woolverton, did something that she did two years ago in Maleficent. She tries to make us feel sorry for Iracebeth, the Red Queen like she did with Maleficent. In this film, its revealed that the reason why she hates her younger sister Mirana, the White Queen is because as children, she lied and got her into trouble. One night, the two sisters were having tarts and Iracebeth practically ate all of them while Mirana got very little. Their mother said they could have anymore after that. Mirana later sneaks the last tart and its it, but she gets crumbs on the floor. She kicks them under Iracebeth's bed. I'm not sure if she purposely put them there since it was her sister's bed. Later the mother sees the crumbs under the bed and thinks Iracebeth ate the tart. Iracebeth says Mirana did it and the mother asks her. She says no and Iracebeth gets into trouble. Iracebth later cries and runs out of the castle and slips on the icy ground and bumps her head. That is why it became so bulbous. When it came time for her coronation, the crown didn't fit her head and the hatter and everyone laughs at her. She then has a gigantic outburst and because of this her father says that even though she's the oldest, she will not become queen. She publicly blames Mirana for all of this because if she had never lied when they were children, none of this would have happened. Towards the end, Mirana admits to her that everything that was happening was all her fault and she didn't deserve to be queen. Iracebeth even forgives her.

If she Woolverton really wanted us to feel bad for Iracebeth, then she should have done this in this first film because it really doesn't help her character all that much. Everyone always assumed that she was evil and psychotic from the start, which was why she probably why her sister became queen of Underland instead of her. Her backstory really kind of ruined the film for me.

The film is under-performing this weekend because of X-Men: Apocalypse and an article from Deadline makes really good points about why it was not smart to go up against that film.

“X-Men isn’t doing it any favors at the box office,” said one distribution chief. And even though X-Men is reaping alice 2the spoils, I’m sure Fox would be happier if that hag Alice and her kooky friends weren’t standing around, stealing their cash. And with all the family product in the market —Angry Birds with $20.1M FSS, -47%, as well as Disney’s own Jungle Book with $10.2M over FSSM– the question begged is why Disney kept Alice 2 on Memorial Day weekend? Yes, they were looking to get the biggest audience possible, but that’s not the case with all this competition in the holiday marketplace. In regards to marketing, Disney certainly didn’t bail on Alice 2. That’s not Disney’s way. And you can’t blame the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard feud; glossy woes do not factor into the B.O.. If this sequel meant anything, Disney should have found another date when there was less competition which would cut into its till. Granted, they chose May 27 first back in November 2013 before Fox staked the same date out for X-Men a month later. “I would have moved Alice,” asserted our rival distrib exec about keeping the sequel alive, “but that’s not Disney’s way. They’re not reactive. Their record is 88 to 2 and they never lose. They probably said to themselves when X-Men moved on the date, ‘We’ll figure it out'”.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/x-men-apocalypse-alice-through-the-looking-glass-memorial-day-weekend-box-office-1201763668/

[drgon78]

I saw it Friday and I really enjoyed it.

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Hollywood Reporter believes that Johnny Depp's divorce proceedings hurt the film's opening weekend at the box office.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/box-office-did-johnny-depps-legal-woes-help-sink-153700835.html

[Vicky82]

Hollywood Reporter believes that Johnny Depp's divorce proceeding hurt the film's opening weekend at the box office.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/box-office-did-johnny-depps-legal-woes-help-sink-153700835.html

Oh please, they just using that as an excuse. :roll: The biggest mistake was releasing it the same day as X-Men and Alice was getting bad reviews aswell.

[ranger_scout]

Oh please, they just using that as an excuse. :roll: The biggest mistake was releasing it the same day as X-Men and Alice was getting bad reviews aswell.

Obviously going up against X-Men: Apocalypse wasn't the smartest move. There are plenty of other details here about why this film was doomed.

Could Alice 2 have been saved? Apparently not.

I’m told that early test screenings didn’t indicate in the least that the James Bobin sequel was headed to a rabbit hole. Following the 2010 installment’s $1 billion, most of the talent was contracted to show up for part 2. One non-Disney executive who was close to the project, criticized Linda Woolverton’s script as “half-baked” and that “everyone had to go through the motions.” But mostly, time is what expired on Alice 2. The excitement for the property disappeared among its initial fans, not to mention as we wrote all weekend, the first Alice in Wonderland benefited from being the second 3D awe that moviegoers boarded post Avatar (the Tim Burton film generated 71% of its domestic B.O. from 3D). Add in a director who unfortunately doesn’t have the mystique of Burton, Depp’s drooping star and you’re left with a situation where no amount of potions or pills could make Alice 2 10 feet tall.

As Disney tried to reignite interest among millennials and young folk in Alice 2, the property didn’t benefit from a cast that’s as socially engaged as say a Furious 7. Depp, given how much of a star he is, isn’t the type of actor who organically speaks to his fans like Dwayne Johnson, Emma Watts or Vin Diesel does. In addition, his press opps were unfortunately limited by the death of his mother. I understand he did one late night appearance. Many like to blame Depp’s recent domestic turmoils as the slowdown in his grosses, however, specific glossy matters don’t weigh on the brows of moviegoers. But what Deadline sources do criticize about Depp’s wattage is his entire being; his overall aura in public appearances that is gradually off-putting to Joe Consumer. “Fans want their stars to be magnetic, and to the people in Middle America, Johnny Depp is just weird,” said one rival studio executive about his antics. That tipsy guy seen at the Hollywood Awards two years ago is unfortunately catching up with Depp. As a barometer of popularity, CinemaScore reported over the weekend that 35% bought tickets to see Alice 2 because of Depp versus 51% back in 2010

http://deadline.com/2016/05/x-men-apocalypse-alice-through-the-looking-glass-memorial-day-weekend-box-office-1201763668/

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