Disney's Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016)

[ranger_scout]

I've brought up this film in a few threads, so I might as well create a topic about it here. On May 27, 2016, Disney will be releasing a sequel to their 2010 blockbuster, Alice in Wonderland. The film, Alice Through the Looking Glass, which will be based on Lewis Caroll's second story, Through The Looking Glass. The majority of actors who played the live-action roles in the previous film will return including Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, Mia Wasikowska as Alice, Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen, and Anne Hathaway as the White Queen. The actors who did the voices for the CGI characters are expected to come back as well. Sacha Baron Cohen has also joined the film as Father Time and Rhys Ifans will be playing the Mad Hatter's Father.

D23 also debuted these posters today.





http://www.insidethemagic.net/2015/0...isney-studios/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Spoiler:

I've brought up this film in a few threads, so I might as well create a topic about it here. On May 27, 2016, Disney will be releasing a sequel to their 2010 blockbuster, Alice in Wonderland. The film, Alice Through the Looking Glass, will be based on Lewis Caroll's second story, Through The Looking Glass. The majority of actors who played the live-action roles in the previous film will return including Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, Mia Wasikowska as Alice, Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen, and Anne Hathaway as the White Queen. The actors who did the voices for the CGI characters are expected to come back as well. Sacha Baron Cohen has also joined the film as Father Time and Rhys Ifans will be playing the Mad Hatter's Father.

D23 also debuted these posters today.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-con...xM-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/wp-con...Kf-405x600.jpg

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2015/0...isney-studios/

I despise Lewis Carroll and this particular incarnation of the story, but those are pretty slick posters. Very artistic, I approve.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Not like Lewis Carroll? Why? I mean, opium habit aside....

[PangolinFeets]

I used to love Wonderland and Neverland stories but Christ, am I sick of them.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Hmm, wouldn't it be interesting if they were both part of the same "world"- but just different parts of it? Ah, my inner writer is popping in to say hi again, it seems.

[PangolinFeets]

I read a comic called Lullaby a while back that had that basic concept. It was really cool, but it got canned.

Like I said, I used to love these stories but there have been so many movies, books, comics, plays, shows, etc... I just want them to move on.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not like Lewis Carroll? Why? I mean, opium habit aside....

Pedophilic undertones plus I'm convinced Carroll is the man who discovered LSD.

And finally, I loathe a man who fills an entire book with no plot, no characterization, and no sense. There is no logical plot progression or anything, just a bunch of random $hit going on.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I think we can blame that on the opium. And no, he wasn't the one to discover LSD- though he might have eaten an ergot-infected loaf of rye bread once or twice. It is the main "ingredient" in LSD. Caused a lot of the hallucinations in Salem, so maybe that's his reason?

Never noticed any pedophilic undertones in his work, myself, though. Might as well hate John Dunne, too. Some of his poems are pretty nonsensical, too.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I think we can blame that on the opium. And no, he wasn't the one to discover LSD- though he might have eaten an ergot-infected loaf of rye bread once or twice. It is the main "ingredient" in LSD. Caused a lot of the hallucinations in Salem, so maybe that's his reason?

Never noticed any pedophilic undertones in his work, myself, though. Might as well hate John Dunne, too. Some of his poems are pretty nonsensical, too.

I haven't been able to reread his stuff long before I was hearing people label it as having "pedo undertones", and I'll fully admit I'll be quite hostile in describing his stuff (mainly because it drives my sister up the wall).

But an author who writes nothing but pointless literary anarchy without real structure or purpose... that's not something I forget or forgive. There are only three books I've ever written that were an absolute waste of time and paper, and Carroll wrote two of them. (Yes, somehow I had managed to convince myself that Through the Looking Glass would be different.)

[drgon78]

It's about time they got started on this one. I loved the first one, can't wait to see it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno, I've never had a problem with em. I guess it's because I get stream of conciousness writing, which is essentially what they were. Sort of like "A rose is a rose is a rose..." type stuff. Studied the style in high school, and found it interesting, if not always easy to grasp. Carroll was just a bit ahead of his time, I guess.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I dunno, I've never had a problem with em. I guess it's because I get stream of conciousness writing, which is essentially what they were. Sort of like "A rose is a rose is a rose..." type stuff. Studied the style in high school, and found it interesting, if not always easy to grasp. Carroll was just a bit ahead of his time, I guess.

I think there's a difference between stream-of-consciousness and what Carroll wrote.

To contrast, look at Douglas' Adams' style of writing: the plot and characters messily go all over the place, sometimes nowhere, sometimes somewhere... but there's always something at the end of the road.

For me, Carroll's works are the equivalent of driving through a strange city, wanting to go somewhere but not knowing how to get there or even where you're going. You drive and drive past bizarre sights and landmarks, and at the end of the journey, you've emerged on the other side of the city with nothing to show for your effort and time.

That's how I feel about him, anyway; and since none of you are my sister whom I love to tease, I'll try not to piss on anyone's cookies while I'm here.

[Allio]

it's sad I'm more looking forward to Zombie Wonderland than this movie

Spoiler:

[ranger_scout]

When I was a little kid I would watch scenes from the 1951 Walt Disney film on Disney Sing-Along Songs videos. However, I did not see the whole film until I was in fourth grade. After watching all of it I was not crazy about the movie, but over the years it has become my favorite adaptation of this story. I know the 2010 film got mixed reviews but I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a completely different take on the story and it was also a visual treat.

Today, Johnny Depp was also named a Disney Legend for his contributions to the company such as being a part of this film franchise, the Pirates of the Caribbean film series, and Into the Woods.

http://variety.com/2015/scene/news/j...es-1201569849/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I think there's a difference between stream-of-consciousness and what Carroll wrote.

To contrast, look at Douglas' Adams' style of writing: the plot and characters messily go all over the place, sometimes nowhere, sometimes somewhere... but there's always something at the end of the road.

For me, Carroll's works are the equivalent of driving through a strange city, wanting to go somewhere but not knowing how to get there or even where you're going. You drive and drive past bizarre sights and landmarks, and at the end of the journey, you've emerged on the other side of the city with nothing to show for your effort and time.

That's how I feel about him, anyway; and since none of you are my sister whom I love to tease, I'll try not to piss on anyone's cookies while I'm here.

Mmm, actually I was thinking more along the lines of Gertrude Stein, and other purveyors of nonsensical literature, ie-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_nonsense

The nursery rhyme Hey, Diddle Diddle is a prime example, and many limericks are as well. It's literary nonsense drivel, but that's the point. It's not really supposed to make sense, because it throws the conventional rules of language and literature, and throws them out the window. There have been many other writers who used the same ideas in their writing, and Carroll was simply one of them- though certainly it's been around much longer.

As for Carroll's personal tendencies, I will leave these, which may or may not clear up the question of reputation....

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-c...p=&amp=&page=1

http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/...eamchild5.html

http://www.wakeling.demon.co.uk/page...wiscarroll.htm

[drgon78]

I do love those posters.

[ranger_scout]

Here is some of the stuff that was teased at D23 Expo.













http://www.mouseinfo.com/new/2015/08...ed-at-d23expo/

[drgon78]

I wonder if any of those outfits will be for Alice herself or just various characters.

[Leo656]

I've always said some things work better in animation than live action, and I'm pretty sure Alice stuff is a pretty good example. I like the old Disney animated one fine but I've never seen a live-action interpretation of it that I really liked. I really don't care much for the Depp one at all. Not surprised they're doing another one, though, the first one made money. And it's a good excuse to use bad, excessive CGI everywhere like they love to do nowadays, so of course.

Meh. Pass.

[ranger_scout]

Here is a brief interview that Mia Wasikowska did at D23.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/new...glass#/slide/1