Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

[TigerClaw]

Thought I start this thread so that we can discuss anything involving Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, the 1st Star Wars spinoff movie, btw that's the official title of the spinoff movie.
http://www.starwars.com/films/rogue-one

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[Zak The Neutrino]

Awesome. I know we only have rumors to go on at the moment.

I saw that news that Vader is in it and is supposed to be ruthless. I'm definitely looking forward to that! :D

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Not interested in this at all. A theatrical Star Wars spin-off is not something I have ever thought was a good idea.

[snake]

Not interested in this at all. A theatrical Star Wars spin-off is not something I have ever thought was a good idea.

So you don't want to explore a rich and expansive universe in ways that were only avalible in books and comics before this?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Not really, no. Star Wars to me has always been an episodic thing and the spin-offs take that away from the series.

Didn't Disney say they were doing a new Star Wars every year? Doesn't that cheapen the idea of a new Star Wars coming out as a big deal?

[CyberCubed]

They also have plans for a Yoda film, a young Han Solo spinoff, a Boba Fett film, and rumors about an Obi-wan film too.

We'll be getting annual Star Wars movies for the next 10 years most likely.

[snake]

They also have plans for a Yoda film, a young Han Solo spinoff, a Boba Fett film, and rumors about an Obi-wan film too.

We'll be getting annual Star Wars movies for the next 10 years most likely.

Only the Han film is confirmed. Get your sh*t together cubed.

[CyberCubed]

The rest is bound to be confirmed eventually. Trust me, its all happening.

[Coola Yagami]

So let's run Star Wars into the ground until noone gives a **** anymore or wants it to go away? Yeah, sure. Why not? Great plan.

[CyberCubed]

So let's run Star Wars into the ground until noone gives a **** anymore or wants it to go away? Yeah, sure. Why not? Great plan.

Well they want to make the most money they can while the hype is at its highest, why not? After Episode 9 they probably won't make any mainline movies for at least another decade.

They'll always have the comics, toys and other merch anyway.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

After Episode 9 they probably won't make any mainline movies for at least another decade.

You really think that? You think Disney would go to the trouble of hiring all these new actors and actresses for the franchise and not use them excessively?

[CyberCubed]

You really think that? You think Disney would go to the trouble of hiring all these new actors and actresses for the franchise and not use them excessively?

I mean Rey, Finn, Poe, etc. I'm sure there will be Star Wars spinoffs after Episode 9.

I'd be very surprised if we see Rey for more than just 3 movies. I mean I suppose its possible, but I don't think they'll break status quo and leave it as a trilogy.

[sdp]

SW being a yearly franchise sucks, I think this whole Disney revival is a mistake. I mean do they not see the damage this will do to the brand? Sure they'll make tons of money in the next say 8 years or so but people are going to get tired. It'd be a much smarter to have kept it as a 3 year episode movie "event" that everyone has to watch. Instead each spin-off and episode will continue to make less and less money. After they got done with Ep. IX they could've made some spin-off films and then after a while start again with new episodes again getting people excited for them. This whole "new episode every two years with a spin-off in between" isn't going to work for the long term. People are already complaining about Marvel and the same will happen here. I already read an interview that it's not a "new trilogy" but that episodes will continue after IX...I mean I just got off my SW high of Episode VII, I'm not excited at all about VIII yet, let alone this spin-off film of something I never asked to see.

[CyberCubed]

If people get sick of them they'll stop making them, simple as that.

They already crossed the point of no return when they made the cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels, making hundreds of Star Wars episodes on a weekly basis. The movies are the same thing just in live action.

[Coola Yagami]

If people get sick of them they'll stop making them, simple as that.

They already crossed the point of no return when they made the cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels, making hundreds of Star Wars episodes on a weekly basis. The movies are the same thing just in live action.

Except the movies are the real deal. The cartoons and crap don't really matter. Especially when the movies just carry on and don't acknowledge them, nor does one have to watch every episode of the Clone Wars before watching The Force Awakens. This movie series didn't need spin-offs, plain and simple. It's a trilogy. With a prequel trilogy. And now a sequel trilogy. Don't tarnish that with needless spin-offs that risk bombing or making people get sick of the franchise.

[CyberCubed]

The cartoons and comics all "count" and if Star Wars was just a movie franchise none of this stuff would be made. The universe is a lot bigger than the 2 hours of screentime each movie gets.

[NinjaPug]

I'm not really excited for origin stories on characters like Han but I'm all on board with a story like Rogue One.

[Coola Yagami]

The cartoons and comics all "count" and if Star Wars was just a movie franchise none of this stuff would be made. The universe is a lot bigger than the 2 hours of screentime each movie gets.

Not really no. As long as the movies don't acknowledge them and carry on as if those cartoons, comics and other such things never happened, it's not official canon in my book. It's just extra Star Wars stuff to wet kids appetites or to maintain overall awareness until the next big movie.

[CyberCubed]

Everything counts. I don't even read the comics and I haven't watched the cartoons yet, but I know they count.

The moment they made a Star Wars cartoon instead of just having the movies they passed the point of no return. Star Wars now has hundreds of adventures not seen in the films.

[NinjaPug]

I really hate it when people says things like "I don't count that as canon" when it clearly is. Lucasfilm formed a Story Group for that purpose.

[Krutch]

*gasp* Is that another female lead?! :lol:

I'm sure this will be fun. I don't mind these little one-off adventure movies so long as they leave the Episodic movies alone. I really wish they'd drop this Han Solo movie thing.

A Boba Fett movie about him hunting down bounties would be cool.

A kids movie about a youngling going through Jedi academy could be fun if done right.

I don't know. Its a big fun universe to play in. And they can't avoid the prequels forever. There's a huge chunk of the audience that grew up with those movies and like them more than the OT.

[ProactiveMan]

The movie will probably be fine, but that image doesn't do anything for me. A lot of people were griping about The Force Awakens feeling like a big budget fan film; I don't agree, but that image of Rouge One looks like a fan film... or a SyFy original show: The Adventures of Drab Squad in the Olive Green Dimension.

It is just a still however, so I'm not going to read too much into it at this stage.

[Foombamaroom]

Rogue One's the only one of the spin-off's I'm actually excited for. I'm a huge Star Wars fan who's dived into the EU more than most, so it makes me sad that they haven't thought of an Old Republic movie. Hell, MULTIPLE Old Republic movies would be great. With them making everything before Phantom Menace non-canon, it doesn't make sense for them NOT to do 'prequels to the prequels.'

[snake]

Rogue One's the only one of the spin-off's I'm actually excited for. I'm a huge Star Wars fan who's dived into the EU more than most, so it makes me sad that they haven't thought of an Old Republic movie. Hell, MULTIPLE Old Republic movies would be great. With them making everything before Phantom Menace non-canon, it doesn't make sense for them NOT to do 'prequels to the prequels.'

C'mon man, you KNOW an Old Republic trilogy is in the works. It's too popular for it to not happen.

[snake]

Except the movies are the real deal. The cartoons and crap don't really matter. Especially when the movies just carry on and don't acknowledge them, nor does one have to watch every episode of the Clone Wars before watching The Force Awakens. This movie series didn't need spin-offs, plain and simple. It's a trilogy. With a prequel trilogy. And now a sequel trilogy. Don't tarnish that with needless spin-offs that risk bombing or making people get sick of the franchise.

I think when you bring back Darth Maul or give Anakin a padawan they do start to matter.

[Coola Yagami]

I think when you bring back Darth Maul or give Anakin a padawan they do start to matter.

In the actual movies or what? And also why give Anakin a padawan when nothing is hinted to him every having one in between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. It's stupid. Even in Revenge of the Sith, he looked nowhere ready to be training anyone.

I know Star Wars is big, but a lot of movies get comics and cartoons and whatnot. Then the next movie comes out and ignores all that and continues right after the previous movie left off.

Small example. Ghostbusters. Cartoons and comics. Then came Ghostbusters 2. Completely ignores anything that happened in the cartoons and comics and continues after the first movie left off.

[NinjaPug]

I know Star Wars is big, but a lot of movies get comics and cartoons and whatnot. Then the next movie comes out and ignores all that and continues right after the previous movie left off.

Small example. Ghostbusters. Cartoons and comics. Then came Ghostbusters 2. Completely ignores anything that happened in the cartoons and comics and continues after the first movie left off.

This is why Lucasfilm started the Story Group. Everything counts and isn't contradicted by the movies.

[CyberCubed]

The thing is you can ignore everything but the main movies if you really want to, but by watching the spinoffs it adds to the universe. Not to mention it doesn't really matter.

How many people never read the old expanded universe in the 90's and 2000's but watched the movies? Countless people, so what's the difference now?

[ProactiveMan]

Nothing counts any more. These movies are all being written and directed by cranky old Star Wars fans, and as far as I can tell, they all hate the prequels.

A lot of them seem to dislike Return of the Jedi too, which is a little distressing to me, but what'ch gonna do?

[CyberCubed]

Star Wars is basically "pick your own canon."

You can watch/read whatever you want and ignore whatever you want.

[Coola Yagami]

The thing is you can ignore everything but the main movies if you really want to, but by watching the spinoffs it adds to the universe. Not to mention it doesn't really matter.

How many people never read the old expanded universe in the 90's and 2000's but watched the movies? Countless people, so what's the difference now?

Because everyone seems to make such a big deal out of it now, or get all upset if someone dare says said comic book isn't canon with the movies. It kinda wasn't like that before. Again, Ghostbusters. People liked the movie and the cartoon. Noone got upset that Ghostbusters 2 completely ignored the cartoon.

Though I do give credit that they have a studio dedicated to making sure nothing contradicts the movie, even when they really didn't have to.

All I'm saying is noone should have to read a comic or watch a cartoon series to see the movies. We don't need Obi Wan and Anakin to reference some event that only people that read that one comic or that one cartoon episode would understand and leave everyone in the dark. Or have them 'bring back' some cartoon-exclusive character that was never in the movies, leaving half the audience happy, and the other half scratching their heads. As long as they don't pull nonsense like that, then more power to em.

[sdp]

The new EU of SW is already a small mess and it has only been out for barely a year. The reboot didn't really matter in the end since most of the audience who will buy the new EU is basically the same as the old, casuals who pick up a story here and there and the super hardcore who pick up everything regardless. I already go by the "pick your own canon" route and will continue. Anyone who thinks the EU actually has any say in the movies is lying to themselves.

[CyberCubed]

Doesn't Han Solo have a black wife in the new comics? All of a sudden we find out Han was married in the middle of Episode 4-5 storywise when there was no mention of her before.

[ProactiveMan]

You literally cannot pick your own canon; it's a contradiction in terms, so why worry about it. Star Wars is always going to be a mess, because of the sheer volume of content produced. It's a cash cow and they have to feed the machine, but there is no way to produce that much fiction without farming it out to a lot of people, and that makes it very hard to maintain synergy.

[snake]

Nothing counts any more. These movies are all being written and directed by cranky old Star Wars fans, and as far as I can tell, they all hate the prequels.

A lot of them seem to dislike Return of the Jedi too, which is a little distressing to me, but what'ch gonna do?

Only JJ was an OT pandering purist. Rian likes both trilogies.

[CyberCubed]

You literally cannot pick your own canon; it's a contradiction in terms, so why worry about it. Star Wars is always going to be a mess, because of the sheer volume of content produced. It's a cash cow and they have to feed the machine, but there is no way to produce that much fiction without farming it out to a lot of people, and that makes it very hard to maintain synergy.

Hence why you can pick your own canon.

If you just like the movies, that's all you need to watch and you can ignore everything else. Some people ignore the prequels and pretend they never happened. Hell I'm willing to bet there's some 50+ year old guy out there who hates Episode 7 and doesn't want to admit it exists because Han solo died.

Then there are others who watch the cartoons and comics and take that with the movies. Some ignore the cartoons and only read the comics. Some will like this new movie and the other spinoffs and others not.

Star Wars is "pick your own canon." You don't have to watch/read all of it.

[ProactiveMan]

You can do that, and it's a good idea... but it's not canon by definition.

[NinjaPug]

You can pick what you watch or read but you can't determine what is or isn't canon. It doesn't matter if you like something or not - it's still a part of canon.

[Foombamaroom]

I haven't really dived into the comics because they've added a bunch of unnecessary plotholes (Luke having a confrontation with Vader, Han being married etc.).

I get that these things 'are' canon, but I just don't like to think about them too much. It just makes me get more frustrated at Disney than I should be.

[sdp]

You guys are missing the point he's trying to make. Not even hardcore SW fans have read all of the old EU and few have read all of the new EU, there's so much media released that it's basically impossible. Everyone chooses to enjoy what they want. Many will continue to enjoy and love the stories that they like and ignore the rest. Hell many have chosen to not care for the new EU and enjoy the old one since there's still so much to consume from it. I personally will continue reading the best SW stories out there regardless of it being old or new EU and enjoy them, of course if they outright contradict a new movie I won't fit it in my headcanon or find a clever way to make it fit in but when you have a bunch of books/stories that will never be contradicted that are great why worry about it?

I and many people take the same approach when reading comics, I mean what is canon in Marvel/DC? Not even the writers seem to know.

[snake]

I haven't really dived into the comics because they've added a bunch of unnecessary plotholes (Luke having a confrontation with Vader, Han being married etc.).

I get that these things 'are' canon, but I just don't like to think about them too much. It just makes me get more frustrated at Disney than I should be.
Han wasn't married. The girl (Sana) was just doing it for recognition and attention. The vader confrontation thing is ehhhhhh but I don't mind it.

[TigerClaw]

a teaser trailer for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will debut tomorrow on Good Morning America.

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[Foombamaroom]

Yes!!!!

♫ I'M SO EXCITED ♫

♫ AND I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT ♫

[CyberCubed]

I have apathy for this movie, although a good trailer could change my mind.

[Foombamaroom]

I have apathy for this movie, although a good trailer could change my mind.

I kinda get that. I'm like that with the Bobba Fett and Han Solo movies.

These movies feel kinda unnecessary 'cause they keep wanting to make the anthology films set in the time period between RotS and ANH, when going back before the prequels (Old Republic) would be the best place to make an anthology series.

Rogue One's the only one I'm very interested in, though, since it's going to have a darker tone and be an actual war movies.

[NinjaPug]

Same here. Rogue One is the only anthology film I'm excited for.

[TurtleTitan97]

Yes!!!! :D

[ProactiveMan]

I'm looking forward to the movie, but that teaser for the teaser is very, very silly. If all you are prepared to show is a wonky Storm Trooper turning his head, then don't release anything.

[NinjaPug]

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[TonySiegel]

it looks ok... more girl power stuff... more toys to sell...

everything sucks... :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

Looks gritty and lacks the SW Magic.

Perfect for people that think they get this franchise, but don't.

[TonySiegel]

Looks gritty and lacks the SW Magic.

Perfect for people that think they get this franchise, but don't.

we need George Lucas back... surely he can save us from another movie, with another death star!

watch episode 8 be an empire strikes back remake! :cry:

[PangolinFeets]

I am mostly excited because it's finally a story without ****ing Jedi. Thank yoooou.

[TigerClaw]

It looks amazing, can't wait to see it.

[Spike Spiegel]

it looks ok... more girl power stuff... more toys to sell...

everything sucks... :lol:

Pretty much what I was thinking.

This is a generic action movie, but with Star Wars locations and sets.

[Mayhem]

Great to see Mon Mothma will be there, on Yavin. She looks a little young though compared to how Caroline Blakiston looked in RotJ (there's presumably only a handful of years difference between Rogue One and RotJ here, given the thought R1 must be set not too long before ANH). Blakiston was 38 when filming her role.

I am mostly excited because it's finally a story without ****ing Jedi. Thank yoooou.
Vader will be in the film so... there won't be a complete lack of lightsabres heh.

[TigerClaw]

Great to see Mon Mothma will be there, on Yavin. She looks a little young though compared to how Caroline Blakiston looked in RotJ (there's presumably only a handful of years difference between Rogue One and RotJ here, given the thought R1 must be set not too long before ANH). Blakiston was 38 when filming her role.


Vader will be in the film so... there won't be a complete lack of lightsabres heh.
I wonder if Emperor Palpatine will make an appearance as well?

There has got to be a scene of Emperor Palpatine giving Darth Vader some orders, maybe via the hologram kind of like in Empire Strikes Back.

[TurtleTitan97]

Nice trailer. Can't wait for more.

[Foombamaroom]

Jesus, that was incredible.

Honestly, I'm so happy that they're not playing off of nostalgia. They're just making the movie set in that time period between Revenge and Hope. They're not trying to paint this out as, "Oh hey, original Stormtroopers," they're making it its own story. And I can't appreciate them enough for that. That was one of my biggest concerns about this movie, and it's nice to see that they're doing this movie correctly.

About this female lead crap, who cares? As long as she's a likable character, that's all that matters.

[TigerClaw]

Its been confirmed that Mon Mothma is being played by the same actress, who played her in a Revenge Of The Sith deleted scene.

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[Autbot_Benz]

I agree this movie looks good. Finally a star wars movie that isn't retelling an existing star wars movie just with different characters.

[Mayhem]

Its been confirmed that Mon Mothma is being played by the same actress, who played her in a Revenge Of The Sith deleted scene.
You know, I was actually wondering if it might be Genevieve O'Reilly, but I haven't seen her in anything recently. IMDB says she's the same age as Caroline was when she filmed RotJ, but she doesn't look it (makeup heh), hence my comment.

[snake]

No aliens. Trailer was cool but I'm pissed about no aliens.

[TigerClaw]

No aliens. Trailer was cool but I'm pissed about no aliens.
I bet there are aliens, we just don't see them cause this is just a teaser trailer, so who knows, maybe we'll see them in a 2nd trailer a few months later.

[ToTheNines]

Looks ok I guess. Cool to see Mon Mothma.

My main problem is the main character is just so cheesy. Honestly can't tell if it's bad dialogue or poor acting... admittedly, I only know her from her small role in Amazing Spider-Man

[TigerClaw]

Here's two videos talking about the Easter Eggs in the Rogue One teaser trailer.

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[snake]

So, like, you guys know why Donnie Yen is playing a literal space samurai in this, right?


Just look at TFAs preformance in china

[Andrew NDB]

So, like, you guys know why Donnie Yen is playing a literal space samurai in this, right?


Just look at TFAs preformance in china

Donnie Yen is a BEAST.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Holy crap. An original Star Wars film!? Not the greatest hits of sci-fi from JJ Abrams, ripper-off of The Wrath of Khan and A New Hope?

Wow. Felicity Jones looks great, this movie feels serious and a little darker, not just all "wheeeeeeeeeeeeee Star Wars!"

Still haven't bothered to see The Force Awakens even though it's on Redbox, but this. THIS. I may see this in theaters, honestly, if it keeps this up. It's pushing all my good buttons. :tcool:

[CyberCubed]

You still haven't seen Episode 7 after 5 months? Why?

[chrisdude]

So stoked to see Donnie Yen in Star Wars.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You still haven't seen Episode 7 after 5 months? Why?

#1. Star Wars has never been a particular favorite of mine. I understand others' ravenous love for the original trilogy, but for me it's just "eh."

#2. The only Star Wars that really interests me in the Extended Universe novels. Knowing that the Disney-owned Star Wars are completely sidestepping and overwriting all of that... "meh."

#3. I hate JJ Abrams, and I hate what he did with Star Trek. "Into Darkness" was just a retooled "Wrath of Khan" and "Force Awakens" is just a retooled "A New Hope." Only difference is, apparently he did a much better job with Star Wars.

So, while I'll see it, I don't really want to actually spend money on it. Daisy Ridley, John Bodega, and Oscar Isaacs are all phenomenal actors and actresses, so I do want to see them in action. Waiting to see if Netflix will offer it eventually...

[snake]

Donnie Yen is a BEAST.

Oh totally. I'm happy about it but it's pretty funny how Dosney is trying to get back China.

[CyberCubed]

http://i.imgur.com/EsqiWvx.png

LOL.

[sdp]

I have extremely mixed feelings about the teaser.

On one hand it was awesome and I really want to see it. On the other hand how much will Disney be pandering to the OT? I mean that's the only thing that has got my interest in this, seeing awesome "modern OT" action on the big screen, its a dream come true but SW can just be so much more than that. No one asked for a story about how they got the plans to the death star.. This is fan fic level of storytelling, and we know every awesome character from this movie will die since they are neveer seen in the OT, this isn't like the PT where at least you knew they had plenty of time to die. These type of stories while cool should be saved for books, comics or videogames to fill in the gaps, not a movie. The Spin-Off films should focus on entirely different things.

This movie also makes me even more mad with the direction they went with for Episode VII. I mean this teaser could very well have taken place in The Force Awakens, you have the bad ass looking different colored Stormtrooper, Imperial Troops kicking ass, the Death Star, awesome looking General etc. Why rehash everything from the OT in Episode VII if there were going to be Spin-Off films rehashing the same ideas.

I'm also still not over the whole SW being a yearly franchise, not sure if I'll see it in theaters. But ranting aside as far as the teaser (why is it called a teaser if its 2 minutes?) its awesome.


I'm so happy that they're not playing off of nostalgia.
Tell me you're not serious.

[Andrew NDB]

I have extremely mixed feelings about the teaser.

On one hand it was awesome and I really want to see it. On the other hand how much will Disney be pandering to the OT? I mean that's the only thing that has got my interest in this, seeing awesome "modern OT" action on the big screen, its a dream come true but SW can just be so much more than that. No one asked for a story about how they got the plans to the death star.. This is fan fic level of storytelling, and we know every awesome character from this movie will die since they are neveer seen in the OT, this isn't like the PT where at least you knew they had plenty of time to die. These type of stories while cool should be saved for books, comics or videogames to fill in the gaps, not a movie. The Spin-Off films should focus on entirely different things.

This movie also makes me even more mad with the direction they went with for Episode VII. I mean this teaser could very well have taken place in The Force Awakens, you have the bad ass looking different colored Stormtrooper, Imperial Troops kicking ass, the Death Star, awesome looking General etc. Why rehash everything from the OT in Episode VII if there were going to be Spin-Off films rehashing the same ideas.

I'm also still not over the whole SW being a yearly franchise, not sure if I'll see it in theaters. But ranting aside as far as the teaser (why is it called a teaser if its 2 minutes?) its awesome.



Tell me you're not serious.

I'm kind of in the same boat as you on your thoughts. OT: the re-fappening. But this one in particular might be all right, if unnecessary.

[CyberCubed]

Almost everything nowadays is nostalgia based, simply because the people working in the industry now were the original kids 20-30 years ago who grew up with this stuff in the first place, and now that they're in charge they want to bring it back to how it was in their childhood.

[ProactiveMan]

It looks a bit bland, and the dialogue seems a bit half-assed, but I won't write it off based on a teaser. A couple of lines are really grated on me though. "This is a rebellion isn't it?!" is supposed to be funny I guess, but it felt painfully self-aware to me, like it’s something someone would only say if they were aware they were a character in a popular film franchise.

I have a theory: You hear constantly from pundits and high profile fanboys, that Harrison Ford played Han Solo like he was aware of how silly the movies were, and was playfully poking fun at them. I don't see it myself, but someone said it once and a bunch of people have adopted the opinion. These are the same pundits and fanboys who are writing the new movies, so they try to write Han Solo-like characters, who are self-aware, and poking fun, and it feels out of place in the end, because Han Solo was never really like that in the first place.

The other line was the list of charges, read out seemingly against the lead character. Surely in a crazy, sci-fi space opera, you can do better than aggravated assault and resisting arrest. It’s not Law & Order for Pete’s sake.

[TurtleTitan97]

#2. The only Star Wars that really interests me in the Extended Universe novels. Knowing that the Disney-owned Star Wars are completely sidestepping and overwriting all of that... "meh."



DUDE. You have to check out Star Wars Rebels if you haven't already. It's the greatest!

[TigerClaw]

Here's the teaser poster.

http://i.imgur.com/bdNsdcl.jpg

[Foombamaroom]

Tell me you're not serious.

Re-watch the teaser compared to the trailers of the Force Awakens. The stuff shown here is just there. There's not some sort of heavily emphasized feeling of, "OH HEY, LOOK, IT'S STAR WARS, X-WINGS, TIE-FIGHTERS, MILLENNIUM FALCON."

I should've phrased it as they're not playing off the nostalgia like Force Awakens was. This looks like they're trying to just be painstakingly close to the originals because of continuity, which makes sense.

Force Awakens is a nostalgia fest because it's a rehash of what you've seen before. It's a good rehash, in my opinion, but still a rehash. This looks new and fresh, just set in the same time period with props you've already seen before.

Obviously everyone's going to feel nostalgic about this movie, but it doesn't seem like they're using it as their primary factor to market the film. The Force Awakens did.

[chrisdude]

Re-watch the teaser compared to the trailers of the Force Awakens. The stuff shown here is just there. There's not some sort of heavily emphasized feeling of, "OH HEY, LOOK, IT'S STAR WARS, X-WINGS, TIE-FIGHTERS, MILLENNIUM FALCON."

I should've phrased it as they're not playing off the nostalgia like Force Awakens was. This looks like they're trying to just be painstakingly close to the originals because of continuity, which makes sense.

Force Awakens is a nostalgia fest because it's a rehash of what you've seen before. It's a good rehash, in my opinion, but still a rehash. This looks new and fresh, just set in the same time period with props you've already seen before.

Obviously everyone's going to feel nostalgic about this movie, but it doesn't seem like they're using it as their primary factor to market the film. The Force Awakens did.There were so many of those moments in the movie. As someone who likes Star Wars, but isn't nostalgic for it, it's painful at times. It's weird when a sequel is so aware of how much time has passed.

[Mayhem]

Deja vu... one scene reminded me of Canary Wharf tube station, a station I've been to many times when travelling. Apparently said thought may not have been so mad after all...

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/07/star-wars-rogue-one-london-jubilee-line-tube-station

[TigerClaw]

The filmmakers for Rogue One will be judging some Star Wars fan films.

WMcAGYP3EjI

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

DUDE. You have to check out Star Wars Rebels if you haven't already. It's the greatest!

Does it air on Wednesday nights? My Wednesday nights are now wide open. :tlol:

I don't think I really want to dive back in to the Star Wars universe just yet. I've come close to checking out some EU novels from the library, but I know that if I get hooked, that's just less time to write...

Rebels is what replaced The Clone Wars, right?

[CyberCubed]

Just watch Episode 7 for now. Its worth watching for the main cast, Daisy Ridley, etc. and Harrisson Ford alone.

[TurtleTitan97]

Does it air on Wednesday nights? My Wednesday nights are now wide open. :tlol:

I don't think I really want to dive back in to the Star Wars universe just yet. I've come close to checking out some EU novels from the library, but I know that if I get hooked, that's just less time to write...

Rebels is what replaced The Clone Wars, right?

It does air on Wednesday, actually.

Yeah, it takes place in-between the time period after Revenge of the Sith and before A New Hope, with some characters and references to Clone Wars popping up. I'd highly recommend it, it's a great show.

What EU books have you checked out in the past? I've got a bunch recently like Kenobi, X-Wing, Darth Plagueis, Thrawn Trilogy, etc.

[The Deadman]

Ridley: Rogue One's Jyn Erso Not Rey's Mom
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/11/star-wars-daisy-ridley-says-rogue-ones-jyn-erso-is-not-reys-mom?abthid=570c352a3dae22c012000025


Daisy Ridley has put one Star Wars: Rogue One fan rumor to rest for now.

When the Rogue One trailer dropped last week, there were rumblings that rebel fighter Jyn Erso, played by Felicity Jones, could be Rey's mother.

According to MTV, Ridley said, "I'm not being funny you guys, but just because she's white and got brown hair... it doesn't mean she's my mom."

The actress does confirm in that same chat that she knows who Rey's parents are, and that she learned that information while making The Force Awakens.

"I think the amazing thing about [Episode VII] is that Finn and Rey don't come from anywhere, and they find a place," Ridley told MTV. "So to me, it's funny that people think it's so important because I don't really think it is."

One thing Ridley isn't sure about is whether Rey is a Jedi. "“I don’t know if I am a Jedi… I don’t think I am.”

[NinjaPug]

Only morons actually thought she was Rey's mother

[CyberCubed]

The new female lead has no hope of getting as popular as Daisy Ridley.

[ProactiveMan]

"I think the amazing thing about [Episode VII] is that Finn and Rey don't come from anywhere, and they find a place," Ridley told MTV. "So to me, it's funny that people think it's so important because I don't really think it is."

To be fair, I think people 'think it's so important' because Episode 7 implies that it is important, and it's Star Wars, so everyone is someone's son or daughter.

[Andrew NDB]

Only morons actually thought she was Rey's mother

While it's certainly the brain dead kneejerk response, I wouldn't call it moronic. Star Wars is very famous for being very... connected with itself. We can't rule her out being Rey's mother or Luke's eventual love interest.

The new female lead has no hope of getting as popular as Daisy Ridley.

Sure she does. She's the only one starring in a mostly-new Star War movie and not a remake.

[CyberCubed]

Sure she does. She's the only one starring in a mostly-new Star War movie and not a remake.

Isn't she only going to be in this one movie? Rey's the star of the new trilogy, the main hero, and is the "Luke" of a whole new younger generation of fans.

There's no comparison. Not to mention Rogue One is obviously not going to make as much money in the box office as Episode 7 did.

[Andrew NDB]

Isn't she only going to be in this one movie? Rey's the star of the new trilogy, the main hero, and is the "Luke" of a whole new younger generation of fans.

There's no comparison. Not to mention Rogue One is obviously not going to make as much money in the box office as Episode 7 did.

Episode 7 is resting on its laurels because it's Episode 7... Rey or no Rey, it would be gangbusters regardless. Whatever happens with this new character in "Rogue One," if she earns accolades, it'll be earned.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It does air on Wednesday, actually.

Yeah, it takes place in-between the time period after Revenge of the Sith and before A New Hope, with some characters and references to Clone Wars popping up. I'd highly recommend it, it's a great show.

What EU books have you checked out in the past? I've got a bunch recently like Kenobi, X-Wing, Darth Plagueis, Thrawn Trilogy, etc.

Mostly the Jacen/Jaina stuff. Really liked their character arcs...

[ToTheNines]

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/04/star-wars-exclusive-rogue-ones-darth-vader-casting-revealed/

Guess the Hayden rumors were false.

[TigerClaw]

There's a Force for Change thing going on for Rogue One, the winner will get a Rogue One Stormtrooper helmet signed by the cast.

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[snake]

Felicity Jones is pretty qt

Her>Ridley IMO

[Mayhem]

So Mads has apparently accidentally revealed he's Jyn's father in Rogue One. Implications and rumour mill at full standby heh...

[snake]

accidentally

It wasn't an accident. They've said we'll actually know about the characters before the movie debuts this time because Jar Jar Abrams isn't running the show.

[Spike Spiegel]

It wasn't an accident. They've said we'll actually know about the characters before the movie debuts this time because Jar Jar Abrams isn't running the show.

That "mystery box" sh*t works great for TV shows, but for film, it interferes with good and proper storytelling.

[snake]

That "mystery box" sh*t works great for TV shows, but for film, it interferes with good and proper storytelling.

Yep. It doesn't help that all jj is used to is early 2000s tv shows, which explains why all his movies look as un-cinematic as possible. TFA had some weird ass cinematography. Some shots were beautiful and looked straight out of ANH where others looked like they decided to film in someones backyard.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Yep. I can't believe they handed him something as big as Star Wars when he doesn't have the level of talent to go along with such a big franchise. But his name is popular, so I guess that's what they were going for.

One shot in TFA trailer that got me excited was this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE&t=1m17s), where we saw the familiar jump-to-lightspeed effect, before it panned out to something new and exciting. I was hoping so much of TFA would be like that, where it referenced the OT in little ways like that but was also its own thing.

Turns out, it was pretty good at ripping off the original trilogy, but really bad at having its own merits.

[Spike Spiegel]

I am sure some fans are having a bit of deja-vu and thinking back to when they first critically evaluated Episode I without all the hype that surrounded it. Then, when they saw trailers for Attack of the Clones, they were probably all like, "this one will surely be better..."

[snake]

I am sure some fans are having a bit of deja-vu and thinking back to when they first critically evaluated Episode I without all the hype that surrounded it. Then, when they saw trailers for Attack of the Clones, they were probably all like, "this one will surely be better..."

I have actual hope for RO and EP8. Rian is actual a fan of both sets of movies as well as the books and tv shows. RO seems like an EU novel come to life and I like that.

[NinjaPug]

I have more faith in Ep VIII simply because Rian is a much better filmmaker and storyteller than JJ. I didn't dislike TFA but it's a very weak movie overall and gets weaker upon repeat viewing just like everything JJ does.

[The Deadman]

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[Andrew NDB]

I have more faith in Ep VIII simply because Rian is a much better filmmaker and storyteller than JJ. I didn't dislike TFA but it's a very weak movie overall and gets weaker upon repeat viewing just like everything JJ does.

JJ is probably a better director than Rian. Most of the problems with VII are strictly of a script nature. Which he co-wrote... so yeah... just keep JJ off the script and it's more likely to be decent.

"JJ, how do you respond to criticisms that TFA was basically a ripoff of 'A New Hope' with different characters?"

JJ: "Oh, what people don't understand, is that it was always intentional! That was the plan!"

Um, that doesn't somehow make you less of a hack, sir.

[CyberCubed]

So the honeymoon period for Episode 7 has worn off now? Now people dislike it like the prequels? That was fast.

[TonySiegel]

star wars is becoming a tired ass franchise to me...

[TonySiegel]

So the honeymoon period for Episode 7 has worn off now? Now people dislike it like the prequels? That was fast.

the grace period is over!

[Spike Spiegel]

the grace period is over!

To me, it's a little worse than TPM.

[plastroncafe]

There truly is no accounting for taste.

[CyberCubed]

I've only seen Episode 7 once so far, but my only main problem with it was how underdeveloped the villains were. But again, this is the first movie and I know they'll appear in the next 2 movies, so I can't judge them too harshly yet when I know we'll see more of them next time.

So far though, not to keen on any of the villains. Snoke looks awful and out of place, the female Storm Trooper didn't even do anything for how hyped she was, and I still need to see more of Han's son before I form a full opinion on him. Again though, I'll wait till Episode 8 and 9 come out before I decide fully.

[NinjaPug]

Lots of info on the movie has been released via a preview of the Visual Dictionary book.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-character-names/

http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ51CBA145.jpg

[Foombamaroom]

So, does this confirm Vader's going to be in the movie? Oh boy, I can't wait.

[Spike Spiegel]

Lots of info on the movie has been released via a preview of the Visual Dictionary book.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-character-names/

http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ51CBA145.jpg

That little creature on the far left--can any of the old EU fans tell me if that is a new species or not?

[CyberCubed]

Is it just me or does the main female look like someone else from some other movie?

[plastroncafe]

Jane Hawking, from "The Theory of Everything?"

[Foombamaroom]

Is it just me or does the main female look like someone else from some other movie?

What do you mean?

Like, she looks like a character that she's already played, or she looks like a different actress?

[The Deadman]

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[TigerClaw]

Take this with a grain of salt, but, it appears that Disney is not happy with how Rogue One is turning out, so they are gonna be doing some reshoots in July.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/disney-reportedly-unhappy-with-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-a142162

[snake]

Take this with a grain of salt, but, it appears that Disney is not happy with how Rogue One is turning out, so they are gonna be doing some reshoots in July.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/disney-reportedly-unhappy-with-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-a142162

God that bit about "making the best movie possible" makes me cringe

[ProactiveMan]

Take this with a grain of salt, but, it appears that Disney is not happy with how Rogue One is turning out, so they are gonna be doing some reshoots in July.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/disney-reportedly-unhappy-with-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-a142162

Not enough synergy probably. There's still time to put Spider-Man in this thing.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd like to think this isn't true...?

[NinjaPug]

Every big movie like this has reshoots but, if true, 4 weeks is pretty extensive and means there is a definite problem with the movie. I hope it's not true but with Gareth Edwards directing this it doesn't surprise me.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Monsters, Godzilla 2014, Monsters: Dark Continent...

Huh. Not a huge filmography to boast about. I liked Godzilla...

[NinjaPug]

Wait, the pseudo tabloid Page Six is the one originating this report? And they weren't the first to break the Han Solo casting like that site claims - Deadline did that a month before Page Six reported it was a done deal.

[ZariusTwo]

God that bit about "making the best movie possible" makes me cringe

Well Hope Awakens was far from the best movie possible and that did gangbusters

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, and "One source tells the site that the film simply falls short of the 'high bar set by The Force Awakens'"? Huh?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

TFA had the lowest bar possible. It was almost a scene-by-scene remake, and the only original scene - the Rathtar one - was boring as ****.

This is what's going to happen every year with these Star Wars movies. Every year they're probably going to be mediocre at best, and in the end they'll scramble to do reshoots. Of course Disney is unhappy with how Rogue One is turning out - they're churning these out as if it's a factory, they're not taking the time to flesh them out.

That's why we got The Hobbit movies that we did: half-baked.

[CyberCubed]

From what I'm reading on other sites, Disney is unhappy because the movie is too "dark" and "serious" and Disney wants Star Wars to be a family-centric franchise. Disney wants to sell toys and cute robots (droids), and fuzzy animals (ewoks), with heroic leads like Rey and Finn, but this movie is apparently too brooding.

In a way it makes sense. Disney is trying to target kids with Star Wars, but release a dark brooding Star Wars movie mostly aimed at adults and its probably not going to do as well.

[TigerClaw]

From what I'm reading on other sites, Disney is unhappy because the movie is too "dark" and "serious" and Disney wants Star Wars to be a family-centric franchise. Disney wants to sell toys and cute robots (droids), and fuzzy animals (ewoks), with heroic leads like Rey and Finn, but this movie is apparently too brooding.

In a way it makes sense. Disney is trying to target kids with Star Wars, but release a dark brooding Star Wars movie mostly aimed at adults and its probably not going to do as well.
Just like how Nickelodeon sees TMNT, Disney sees Star Wars for kids.

[NinjaPug]

From what I'm reading on other sites, Disney is unhappy because the movie is too "dark" and "serious" and Disney wants Star Wars to be a family-centric franchise. Disney wants to sell toys and cute robots (droids), and fuzzy animals (ewoks), with heroic leads like Rey and Finn, but this movie is apparently too brooding.

In a way it makes sense. Disney is trying to target kids with Star Wars, but release a dark brooding Star Wars movie mostly aimed at adults and its probably not going to do as well.

Just like how Nickelodeon sees TMNT, Disney sees Star Wars for kids.

This is BS. Disney doesn't operate like that anymore with Eisner gone.

Disney suggested to Marvel that they should've had Cap and Iron Man team up at the end of Civil War against the super soldiers instead of the somber ending we got. Marvel didn't want to end it that way but you didn't see Disney force anything on them.

[Andrew NDB]

Disney suggested to Marvel that they should've had Cap and Iron Man team up at the end of Civil War against the super soldiers instead of the somber ending we got.

That would've been a terrible ending. Like an even lamer version of the end of Iron Man 3 with that army of super soldiers. And these ones wouldn't even breath fire.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is BS. Disney doesn't operate like that anymore with Eisner gone.

Disney suggested to Marvel that they should've had Cap and Iron Man team up at the end of Civil War against the super soldiers instead of the somber ending we got. Marvel didn't want to end it that way but you didn't see Disney force anything on them.

Source, please?

[NinjaPug]

Source, please?

It's not that hard to google.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-russos-explain-why-captain-america-civil-war-had-to-end-the-way-it-did

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's not that hard to google.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-russos-explain-why-captain-america-civil-war-had-to-end-the-way-it-did

Eh. I'm lazy. Thank you!

[MikeandRaph87]

Take this with a grain of salt, but, it appears that Disney is not happy with how Rogue One is turning out, so they are gonna be doing some reshoots in July.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/disney-reportedly-unhappy-with-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-a142162

I saw a source citing it failed to match the tone of A New Hope. Too dark. The Suicide Squad reshoots were said to be done for the same reason but the cast called b.s. on that. So we can take it with a grain of salt and hope for a quality product. The reshoots are said to take several weeks. It appears more often than not that potential blockbusters have reshoots.


https://www.yahoo.com/movies/disney-orders-reshoots-star-wars-stand-alone-rogue-004710690.html

[TigerClaw]

Here's another update.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/rogue-one-update-no-test-screenings-apparently-the-a142197

There was no test screenings, the reshoots are for a cameo of a very important character.

The 1st cut was pretty serious, and the new stuff they are shooting will add some fun.

[snake]

Not everything has to be f*cking fun and lgihthearted for the reddit audience

[CyberCubed]

There was no test screenings, the reshoots are for a cameo of a very important character.

The 1st cut was pretty serious, and the new stuff they are shooting will add some fun.

Yes, I can't wait for the triumphant return of Jar Jar Binks!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yes, I can't wait for the triumphant return of Jar Jar Binks!

Shut your mouth.

Podracing is where it's at. Sebulba is a mean BAMF.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I hope the reshoots regarding injecting "fun" are false, because every joke in TFA sucked. Really badly.

I generally don't like "dark" movies - or at least ones that are physically dark, like the later Harry Potters, where you can't even see what's going on onscreen. I do enjoy movies have a dark atmosphere - it communicates danger and fear on a level a dark screen never could.

Man, screw Disney. I still maintain that the prequels were far better than TFA. People say George Lucas ruined Star Wars but the damage Disney will probably do will be much worse to the franchise. If this is how they think Star Wars movies should be made, then there will never be another Empire Strikes Back.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Shut your mouth.

Podracing is where it's at. Sebulba is a mean BAMF.

I hope this is the only podracing scene in a new Star Wars movie.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RVbkEe6JgCM/VStW24Qj2dI/AAAAAAABCXE/zaXW0_ZJyRo/w400-h188/its-working--135206.gif

[ProactiveMan]

Here's another update.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/rogue-one-update-no-test-screenings-apparently-the-a142197

There was no test screenings, the reshoots are for a cameo of a very important character.

The 1st cut was pretty serious, and the new stuff they are shooting will add some fun.

I knew it... Spider-Man.

[CyberCubed]

Is the main female lead of this film a relative unknown like Daisy Ridley was before Episode 7 came out? Maybe Disney is nervous people won't like the new female lead as much as Rey.

Probably doesn't matter as much since she's likely only going to be in this one film, since this takes place in the Episode 4 era and she'd be way too young to reprise her role in any other movie in the timeline.

[snake]

Is the main female lead of this film a relative unknown like Daisy Ridley was before Episode 7 came out? Maybe Disney is nervous people won't like the new female lead as much as Rey.

Probably doesn't matter as much since she's likely only going to be in this one film, since this takes place in the Episode 4 era and she'd be way too young to reprise her role in any other movie in the timeline.

No. Felicity Jones is a pretty well known actor. She's way more attractive and a better actor than Ridley so she'll do fine.

[raph27]

Not everything has to be f*cking fun and lgihthearted for the reddit audience

I've seen you say this multiple times and I'm confused. The majority of Reddit seems to want darker movies as much as most people do.

Anyway, I hope it still stays dark. I'm afraid they're trying to take the safe route. I liked TFA, but they played it way too safe in that one.

[NinjaPug]

I think this is the closest we'll get to what's going on with the reshoots. Breznican has the in with Lucasfilm.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/03/rogue-one-reshoots

[NinjaPug]

EW is about to drop some articles on the movie. Although it was the worst kept secret out there, Darth Vader is confirmed for the movie.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2016/06/21/000a3r54324-r2d2-ew1421.jpg

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/star-wars-rogue-one-cover?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Is James Earl Jones going to be voicing Vader? I know he has dementia now, but I don't know to what extent it impairs him.

[NinjaPug]

I'm sure he will be since he currently voices Vader in the Rebels TV show

[CyberCubed]

I hope this movie is good. It sets the precedent for all future Star Wars spinoff movies.

[NinjaPug]

Breakdown of the new characters:

http://www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-rogue-one-characters

Really curious who Forest Whitaker is playing now.

[Andrew NDB]

Really curious who Forest Whitaker is playing now.

"This character has a past that Star Wars completists will recognize immediately when they see his name, even if he looks very different than the way they've seen him elsewhere."

Huh. I... really have no idea. Maybe some guy from the old EU stuff who they're bringing in, but differently?

Can't think of any super old black guys in TFA, black guys Whittaker's age in the OT, or any super young black guys in the prequel trilogy.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Oh, no... please don't let it be Mace Windu.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh, no... please don't let it be Mace Windu.

If they were going to do that they would just bring back Jackson. Although I'm not convinced he really died... there's a million ways a Jedi -- even one without hands -- can slow or stop his own fall.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

If they were going to do that they would just bring back Jackson.

You're probably right. But I thought Disney dumped the whole EU - it would look a bit silly if they were to incorporate elements from it into their films. Having already been criticized for copying the first Star Wars scene-by-scene for TFA, it'd look kind of bad for them if they copied an EU character.

[Andrew NDB]

You're probably right. But I thought Disney dumped the whole EU - it would look a bit silly if they were to incorporate elements from it into their films. Having already been criticized for copying the first Star Wars scene-by-scene for TFA, it'd look kind of bad for them if they copied an EU character.

I think they've been pretty vocal at times about "some aspects of the EU may or may not 'come back' in some form, the fun is we get to pick, blah blah" down the road.

[NinjaPug]

Yeah, I definitely think Whitaker is a character from the non-canon EU (Legends)

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, I definitely think Whitaker is a character from the non-canon EU (Legends)

I tend to think it may be something relevant to the obtaining of the Death Star plans in the EU. Maybe he's playing a black-washed Kyle Katarn? This movie does feel, in many ways, like a recreation of the original "Dark Forces" game. That game even had "Dark Troopers."

[Andrew NDB]

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3859966

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Hey, what if he's Captain Panaka? Anyone remember him?

[TigerClaw]

Hey, what if he's Captain Panaka? Anyone remember him?
That would be cool if he turns out to be him.

[Andrew NDB]

Hey, what if he's Captain Panaka? Anyone remember him?

That would be cool if he turns out to be him.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW2yG6lWcAEdBwI.jpg

Huh. It's possible, he more or less could be a younger version of an older Forest Whittaker. There was a lot of EU stuff with him becoming a Colonel and then a Moff in the Empire or something, but obviously all of that is out the window.

I don't think it's him, though. And it kind of comes back to... if Gareth really, really wanted that character, why didn't they just ask the actor back to reprise it? He'll have aged just about the perfect # of years since the prequels to play the character when it is set right before ANH.

[NinjaPug]

Why all the suspense if it was just Panaka?

[Andrew NDB]

Think I'm going to stick with my bet that Whittaker is Kyle Katarn.

[NinjaPug]

Saw Gerrera - from the Clone Wars

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/star-wars-rogue-one-forest-whitaker-character

[TigerClaw]

Saw Gerrera - from the Clone Wars

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/star-wars-rogue-one-forest-whitaker-character
I haven't been watching the Clone Wars series, but he appeared in Season 5, Here's what he looked like as a young person.

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2016/06/21/acw_ia_100194.jpg

[snake]

F*cking awesome. Love that they're using TCW characters

[NinjaPug]

Gotta think Gerrera shows up in Season 3 of Rebels now. Now I need to go back and watch his arc of episodes from TCW.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Wow! The writers were doing their homework for that one. That's a good sign.

[TigerClaw]

Filn82qphCA

The newest episode of the Star Wars Show talks about Saw Gerrera

[ProactiveMan]

I tend to think it may be something relevant to the obtaining of the Death Star plans in the EU. Maybe he's playing a black-washed Kyle Katarn? This movie does feel, in many ways, like a recreation of the original "Dark Forces" game. That game even had "Dark Troopers."

Haha, I hope he is Kyle Katarn, that would make me happy. He probably isn't though.

[NinjaPug]

Article on Darth Vader in Rogue One:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/23/darth-vader-rogue-one-star-wars?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

[ToTheNines]

Is James Earl Jones going to be voicing Vader? I know he has dementia now, but I don't know to what extent it impairs him.

You're mistaken, David Prowse is struggling with dementia. As far as I know, Jones is in good health.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

You're mistaken, David Prowse is struggling with dementia. As far as I know, Jones is in good health.

Ah! My mistake.

Prowse and George Lucas haven't had a good relationship in a long while.

[CyberCubed]

So James Earl Jones can voice Vader here but he couldn't voice him in Battlefront or any of the recent Star Wars games. Why

[TheSkeletonMan939]

So James Earl Jones can voice Vader here but he couldn't voice him in Battlefront or any of the recent Star Wars games. Why

EA probably didn't want to pay big bucks for his voice.

[NinjaPug]

Bunch of new photos from EW:

http://www.ew.com/gallery/rogue-one-first-look-photos

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1466597109/46853684651777000.jpg

[TheCanadiandrome]

You're mistaken, David Prowse is struggling with dementia. As far as I know, Jones is in good health.

Yeah I remember when Jeremy Bulluch was at Fan Expo last year, he said that Prowse wasn't in the best of health, which makes me wonder who will be in the iconic Vader suit

[sdp]

Well I hate to say it but even after the rehash of Episode VII and the oversaturation of Star Wars and yearly SWs films I'm starting to get hyped :lol:

-Still think it's dumb we're filling in all these stories I don't care for in film in time periods I prefer not to have expanded on (at least not on video).

-Darth Vader being in the movie is awesome but I still think a solo Darth Vader movie should've been the way to go and I'm against character movies.

-I hope the rumors about the reshoots to make it more like "family friendly" TFA are all false, I wouldn't mind a more serious SW story to have some sort of contrast between the yearly films instead of the cookie cutter formula Marvel uses in all their films. Just because it's good and works doesn't mean it should be used all the time.

-I'd be way more excited if this wasn't about the Death Star plans.

[NinjaPug]

It was assumed we were getting a new Rogue One trailer at Celebration. It's confirmed now - ABC is airing a special on TFA that includes the trailer on July 15th (same day as the Celebration panel). Now the question is if they will release the trailer online after the panel (6-7 hours before this special)


Secrets of the Force Awakens: A Cinematic Journey

The making of ``Star Wars: The Force Awakens''; a 3-minute trailer for ``Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.'
8:00 - 9:01 PM

http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-force-awakens-a-cinematic-journey/EP02457982?aid=tvschedule

[TurtleTitan97]

Alright!!! :D

[CyberCubed]

I'm oddly interested in this movie again, for some reason I think this movie might surprise us all.

[NinjaPug]

What made you lose interest? The BS rumors from Page Six.

[NinjaPug]

Good news - they're streaming Celebration live again this year. The Rogue One panel is confirmed. Hopefully the Rebels and Future Filmmakers panels will be as well.

The Star Wars Show LIVE, streaming from Star Wars Celebration Europe beginning Friday, July 15, through Sunday, July 17, will feature celebrity guests, interviews with Star Wars creators, must-see panels, and much more. Andi Gutierrez and Peter Townley of The Star Wars Show are set to host, bringing you all the action as it happens. Also livestreaming is the special Rogue One: A Star Wars Story panel (July 15, 11 a.m. ET / 8 a.m. PT), presented by Verizon, in which director Gareth Edwards will join Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy and special guests for a discussion on the highly-anticipated film.

[TigerClaw]

Check out the new Poster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnamfi0XgAAgOd4.jpg:large

[retr0pia75]

I absolutely loved The Force Awakens, so I'll be sure to check this out when it lands. It looks like it could be a far better prequel than the ones we got years ago, that's for sure.

[TigerClaw]

Here the new Rogue One Behind the Scenes video that was shown today at Star Wars Celebration.

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[The Deadman]

Check out the new Poster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnamfi0XgAAgOd4.jpg:large

Thats a drastic departure from the overall dark tone of the trailer. People are gonna get confused as to whether the movie is dark or has light elements to it.

[NinjaPug]

Thats a drastic departure from the overall dark tone of the trailer. People are gonna get confused as to whether the movie is dark or has light elements to it.

Depicting a battle on the poster would confuse people about the tone?

[NinjaPug]

New Rogue One trailer coming this Thursday during the Olympics

[Cure]

During the Olympics? I guess no one's gonna see it according to CyberCubed.

[CyberCubed]

People'll see it on youtube, not the TV.

[ToTheNines]

I didn't realize youtube was still popular.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the new trailer

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[Raph's Girl]

Oh look a new droid character that's no C-3PO yet kinda acts like him. I'll probably get the vinyl of him...and various other memorabilia. :P

[CyberCubed]

Looks pretty decent. I'm far more interested in this than that Han Solo movie or whatever else comes.

[sdp]

This trailer got me less on board.

[snake]

Y'all are crazy. This movie looks better than TFA.

[ProactiveMan]

Should be good. That last shot is ultra-cheese though.

[Spike Spiegel]

Good trailer. I hope Jyn Erso is a more interesting protagonist than Rey.

[snake]

Good trailer. I hope Jyn Erso is a more interesting protagonist than Rey.

I fully expect her to be the same Mary Sue with some 2KOOL4SKOOL characteristics. If she doesn't survive the movie I'll stand corrected.

[Autbot_Benz]

Y'all are crazy. This movie looks better than TFA.

agreed of course this movie looks better. Its not a new hope redux

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer is more of a teaser than the last one was, kind of.

[Andrew NDB]

It's definitely playing in a sandbox I have no real interest in revisiting timeline-wise, though I'm sure there isn't suddenly, simply a movie about Rebels getting the Death Star 1 plans because they decided there should be a movie where Rebels get the Death Star 1 plans. I think there's a higher purpose to things and they're planting seeds now for future stuff and that's awesome.

New trailer is less compelling than the last trailer. But I was already on board before I even saw trailer #1. I hope the war grit isn't compromised in the final product. If they really want to draw a line between the actual episode SW and the non (and they should) then they shouldn't be so anal about this movie feeling like everything else. I worry about that.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Bad so so bad:cry::x

[Commenter 42]

I'm not a fan. It feels... like just another movie?

Strange. shot composition is... really vanilla.

[CyberCubed]

Because its a "safe movie." Its just the rebels fighting familiar Storm Troopers, Tie Fighters, Death Star, etc.

I'm guessing this movie will make or break it depending on how likeable the new main characters are.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Looks like it's all flash with no substance.

I hope this is of a "Tora, Tora, Tora!" type film where the viewer is expected to be more invested in the matter itself than the characters. Because I don't care what her backstory is, I'm not going to give a damn about this character Felicity Jones is playing.

[thundermaster612]

fuk dis sheit

[snake]

fuk dis sheit

Hoping on the bandwagon as usual, Mewtwo?

[plastroncafe]

I liked the teaser more than this trailer.
They had me at, "Hello." There's no reason for them to give me more than that taste. Which pretty much means I'll just be avoiding any other trailers/marketing from here until release.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the international trailer, it has some new footage.

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[AT-Man]

The new trailer is better than all the rest of Star Wars.

[TheCanadiandrome]

-Darth Vader being in the movie is awesome but I still think a solo Darth Vader movie should've been the way to go and I'm against character movies.



lol no way Vader needs a solo movie after eps 1-3 came out bro :lol: :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

lol no way Vader needs a solo movie after eps 1-3 came out bro :lol: :lol:

Well, you're not wrong but I can kind of see the frustration of looking forward to finally getting to see Darth Vader, but only actually getting like a minute and a half of it at the end of Episode III.

"A Star Wars Story: PURGE" could be pretty great.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well, you're not wrong but I can kind of see the frustration of looking forward to finally getting to see Darth Vader, but only actually getting like a minute and a half of it at the end of Episode III.

"A Star Wars Story: PURGE" could be pretty great.
purge?? why purge?

[snake]

purge?? why purge?

Look up the Jedi Purge

[TheCanadiandrome]

Look up the Jedi Purge
Gotcha now

[The Deadman]

A New Droid from Rogue One Revealed!
(http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/762953-a-new-droid-from-rogue-one-revealed#/slide/1)

[TigerClaw]

A New Droid from Rogue One Revealed!
(http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/762953-a-new-droid-from-rogue-one-revealed#/slide/1)
a Black Astromech name C2-B5, who happens to be an Imperial Droid.

http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/08/14115564_626865210828205_877708313954439517_o-2.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Michael Giacchino is doing the score for Rogue One now. He's no John Williams but I'm a big fan of Giacchino's work.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rogue-one-replaces-929387

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I'm very blasé about Giacchino.
On the one hand he was really good at handling Williams's theme for Jurassic World. And I effing love The Incredibles.
On the other hand... it's rare that a Giacchino score jumps out at me. He's not mediocre, but he's close.
This movie is being massacred in the editing room. Desplat hadn't even spotted the film yet (i.e. seen a rough cut with the director).

NinjaPug, I think you and I are the only guys who care about film music here!

[snake]

Disney completely killed my hype with this movie because of the complete lack of new footage, as well as the missed oppertunies regarding Vader.

Sometimes less is NOT more. That's a bullsh*t saying that false intellectuals and film critics say to think they're being sophisticated and smart. Luke being in TFA for 2 seconds was not a smart move. But it was done because J.J is a hack and le less is more.

We're also getting completely human main characters with the exception of minor characters Pao and Bistan (who aren't even getting promoted). All with the idea of being "diverse", I think Disney forgot that aliens are what makes Star Wars different than other bland sci fi with only humans. These motherf*ckers can't even act from what we've seen in the trailer.

This was such a big chance to make a Dark Times era movie, which fans would appriciate. Instead we get more of the same. Boring humans, boring planets, and executive meddling so it can appeal to women, children, pets, priests, minorities, and your f*cking grandmother because it's STARRRRR WAARRRRRSSS.


F*ck Disney and f*ck new star wars. I'm more excited for rebels season 3 next week (which has better writing than TFA) than this movie.


Who knows, maybe my opinion will change when the movie comes out, but I know one thing for certain- Disney f*cked up with the marketing. Most people I know don't even know this is coming out, let alone it ISN'T episode 8.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Disney completely killed my hype with this movie because of the complete lack of new footage, as well as the missed oppertunies regarding Vader.

Sometimes less is NOT more. That's a bullsh*t saying that false intellectuals and film critics say to think they're being sophisticated and smart. Luke being in TFA for 2 seconds was not a smart move. But it was done because J.J is a hack and le less is more.

We're also getting completely human main characters with the exception of minor characters Pao and Bistan (who aren't even getting promoted). All with the idea of being "diverse", I think Disney forgot that aliens are what makes Star Wars different than other bland sci fi with only humans. These motherf*ckers can't even act from what we've seen in the trailer.

This was such a big chance to make a Dark Times era movie, which fans would appriciate. Instead we get more of the same. Boring humans, boring planets, and executive meddling so it can appeal to women, children, pets, priests, minorities, and your f*cking grandmother because it's STARRRRR WAARRRRRSSS.


F*ck Disney and f*ck new star wars. I'm more excited for rebels season 3 next week (which has better writing than TFA) than this movie.


Who knows, maybe my opinion will change when the movie comes out, but I know one thing for certain- Disney f*cked up with the marketing. Most people I know don't even know this is coming out, let alone it ISN'T episode 8.

The movie doesn't come out until December. It's still 3 months out. You don't think we will get more trailers before then?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Disney completely killed my hype with this movie because of the complete lack of new footage, as well as the missed oppertunies regarding Vader.

The reason they haven't released any new footage is because they're sweating bullets in the editing room. Desplat hadn't even spotted a ****ing ROUGH CUT of the film before he left. Do you know how long in advance John Williams spotted The Phantom Menace with George Lucas? Long enough for Lucas to fully re-cut the film like three times! How much of a rush job must this film be?

2016 is a horrible year for films and ROGUE ONE will likely be no exception!

I bet the reason Giacchino was hired is because Desplat's schedule is too unpredictable. They want a new go-to composer for the series and this is Giacchino's trial run.

Sometimes less is NOT more. That's a bullsh*t saying that false intellectuals and film critics say to think they're being sophisticated and smart. Luke being in TFA for 2 seconds was not a smart move. But it was done because J.J is a hack and le less is more.

In certain instances less is more in the sense that you're asking your audience to fill in blanks (i.e., the "Clone Wars" in the 1977 Star Wars films. What were they? They sound awesome!) But TFA really skimped out on all the interesting parts (like Luke) to the point that it felt empty!

[NinjaPug]

I'm very blasé about Giacchino.
On the one hand he was really good at handling Williams's theme for Jurassic World. And I effing love The Incredibles.
On the other hand... it's rare that a Giacchino score jumps out at me. He's not mediocre, but he's close.
This movie is being massacred in the editing room. Desplat hadn't even spotted the film yet (i.e. seen a rough cut with the director).

NinjaPug, I think you and I are the only guys who care about film music here!

Totally understand that opinion. Giacchino has had his share of mediocre scores (the Apes movies and Tomorrowland immediately come to mind) but I'm a fan of him overall based on LOST, Up and Inside Out. I also love his main Star Trek theme.

I'm curious to hear what he does with Dr Strange. I hope it's not going to be another generic Marvel score.

The movie doesn't come out until December. It's still 3 months out. You don't think we will get more trailers before then?

Yeah it's a little too early to complain about the marketing of this movie especially since they've released two trailers already.

I get his other complaints though and he's definitely right about folks not realizing this isn't the sequel to TFA. Disney has their work cut out for them to get that message out to the general audience.

In certain instances less is more in the sense that you're asking your audience to fill in blanks (i.e., the "Clone Wars" in the 1977 Star Wars films. What were they? They sound awesome!) But TFA really skimped out on all the interesting parts (like Luke) to the point that it felt empty!

There is absolutely no substance to TFA just like all of JJ's other films.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I'm curious to hear what he does with Dr Strange. I hope it's not going to be another generic Marvel score.

I guess you've seen that "Marvel Symphonic Universe" vid that's been going around?
The guy making the video missed the point completely, but it was interesting nonetheless.

[ZariusTwo]

The final trailer for this will drop around the time of Doctor Strange's release. and will come attached to that movie

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/09/final-rogue-one-trailer-to-be-attached-to-doctor-strange.html

[TigerClaw]

Check out the new poster, The final trailer will be released tomorrow.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/darth-vader-looms-in-new-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-a145944

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CumLRfqW8AABApx.jpg

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The proportions are all so weird! I get that they were trying to mimic the old, actually artistic posters for the original trilogy but something just looks off here.
Good effort though.

[CyberCubed]

How big is Darth Vader's role in this movie? I had thought he would get nothing more than a short cameo scene, but he's apparently in a large chunk of the film?

[Andrew NDB]

How big is Darth Vader's role in this movie? I had thought he would get nothing more than a short cameo scene, but he's apparently in a large chunk of the film?

If he wasn't before, he is now.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Or maybe he really is in the film for only a few moments, but they're making a big deal out of it in the marketing. Although since the reshoots probably f*cked up the movie we won't know until December.

[Andrew NDB]

This will probably be like a less bad "Suicide Squad." We'll get the movie and it'll be a bit polarizing, and then everyone will start wondering how much better the original film would have been.

[CyberCubed]

I'm still not even quite sure how this movie is going to play out. The plot sounds pretty straight forward, I guess it just depends on if the characters have more depth than plywood or the action scenes. Granted I'm sure all the big action scenes will be great to watch either way.

[ProactiveMan]

The proportions are all so weird! I get that they were trying to mimic the old, actually artistic posters for the original trilogy but something just looks off here.
Good effort though.

I think having Darth Vader's face on the top-right is throwing off the visual flow. If he were on the left, your eye would move across the design in a comfortable left to right motion that would make it seem more harmonious. Right now, the focus is the unhappy woman, then you’re draw to the Death Star/Vader combo and your eye gets trapped in the top right.

It’s kind’a cool, but it’s not very exciting.

[sdp]

I've been very critical and still agree with all the points I've made over the past few months/year but what can I say I'm a sucker and I'm already getting all hyped on Star Wars again and it's only going to get worse as we get closer to release. I'm already planning my SW marathon. I'm thinking of skipping the main movies and this time do a spin-off film marathon, watch Rebels and a few video game "movies".

[Spike Spiegel]

Here's the final trailer.

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I don't really have any particular feelings about it one way or the other. This is probably better than the Farce Awakens, but it looks like a generic space action movie.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Is this chick the only Star Wars character who actually knows who her father is?
Anakin didn't, Luke didn't (for two out of three films), Rey didn't. Seems Rogue One is shaking things up by not only having Jones know her dad but also meeting him. Wow, this movie will be so different from what we've seen before in STAR WARS.

[Shark_Blade]

I like how the leads are girls now.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the final trailer.

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I don't really have any particular feelings about it one way or the other. This is probably better than the Farce Awakens, but it looks like a generic space action movie.
Galen Erso has something to do with the creation of the Death Star.
http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/13/13268448/star-wars-rogue-one-galen-erso-mads-mikkelsen

[ZariusTwo]

The lead female's father built the Death Star? And she's not a mary sue because....?

[TMNTInsighter]

It looks pretty good but I'm STILL waiting for an adaptation of KOTOR! I mean how awesome would it be to finally have Darth Revan and his story on the big screen?

[Andrew NDB]

The lead female's father built the Death Star?

Wow, must have been hard work. And I thought Episode II revealed the Geonosians built the Death Star?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Oh, yeah... that's weird. Maybe Count Dookie had the original concept for the Death Star and Felicity Jones's dad translated it to actual schematics?

[TigerClaw]

Wow, must have been hard work. And I thought Episode II revealed the Geonosians built the Death Star?
The Geonosians had the plans to built the Death Star, But they didn't built it themselves, Perhaps Galen Erso was the person who created the super weapon that's on the Death Star itself, But not the entire thing.

and I believe he's the one who knows it from the ground up, its weaknesses and so forth.