Brie Larson the frontrunner for Captain Marvel

[ZariusTwo]

I probably will still see this movie, if there's any box-ticking/feminist agenda, I'll be right here pointing it out. Black Panther managed to make things seamless and fun, and is one of the few Marvel movies I like, so hopefully this one can pull something similar.

Still, I can't help but smile at the flack Marvel are taking. Their films with some exception have always been either complete garbage, passable, or underwhelming, it's nice to see something like this is making me people realise just how naked the emperor is with his clothes.

[Spike Spiegel]

I hope this generates enough brand recognition or whatever to merit a Marvel Omnibus edition for the mid-2000s run of Ms. Marvel comics that started after "House of M". They just released a compilation of Carol's original series from the late 70s, so it seems logical to do that run next.

[Papenbrook]

You make it sound so easy :lol:
Marvel does have a great track record, but they have produced a couple duds and quite frankly are probably due for one.



... and, how did you come to that conclusion?


I am mostly in the dark about this movie, I have not been following the movie or Brie Larson too closely. I have seen the trailers and it doesn't look like a good movie imo.



Okay, I'm trying to understand you.

You don't think this will be a good movie - based on what (in the trailers) exactly?


Captain Marvel to my knowledge does not have the fan base to prop up a bad movie like Spider-man, Batman, TMNT ect......



Black Panther didn't have the fan-base either; it was still able to outperform and surpass expectations.


Basically we will have to wait and see.



So, you think that this film will flop, yet you want to "wait and see" it's performance/reception?

That ... doesn't make any sense ...

[Leo656]

They're Too Big To Fail at this point. Every single criticism that average keyboard warriors sling at other companies' super-hero films, be it WB or Sony or Fox, apply in equal or even GREATER measure to the MCU projects sometimes, but people, in general, don't care. People who get paid a lot more than me write numerous articles pointing out whatever flaws do exist, and every time, they're met with a flood of comments accusing them of "hating", if not simply making things up.

The audience likes the formula. They want it to be the way it is, and they don't like people pointing out that something maybe could have been done better. They're bulletproof, immune from even the slightest bit of criticism.

I don't think this one will get as much excitement as Black Panther, but it will be close.

Real Talk, though: NOBODY should be giving a single f*ck about what Rotten Tomatoes says in the first place.

[Prowler]

Real Talk, though: NOBODY should be giving a single f*ck about what Rotten Tomatoes says in the first place.
I've never cared about that place. When the first Bay Turtles movie came out, someone made a thread in the Platinum Dunes section titled "What do you think the Rotten Tomatoes' score for this movie will be?" or something like that... that was THE LEAST of my concerns with that awful movie. I hadn't even given any thoughts to Rotten Tomatoes' possible rating of the movie before that thread was made. :lol:

[Leo656]

I get the reasoning - "I only have so much time and money, I wanna know in advance if something's Good or Bad" - but you can't figure that out for YOU by seeing what a bunch of OTHER people say. Especially of all you look at is a number, and don't actually READ the reviews, which nobody does.

A lot of critics take issue with RT because, if they personally don't assign Stars or a letter grade, RT will "assume" one for them based on what they infer from the review's text. Or one person will give something ** and 1/2 out of *****, and RT will round the score down to a "D" while the author themselves will say that, had they been asked, they'd say that star rating equals a C, but they weren't asked. It's an extremely flawed system.

There's simply no "at a glance" way to know if any film/TV show/game/album/etc. will be Good, Bad, Great, or Terrible based on your personal tastes, if all you do is skim what other people think. Some people say, "Well, MOST people say it's _____, so I defer to Consensus." Well, "Consensus" made Justin Bieber, the Kardashians, and the Spice Girls extremely rich and famous. Even if the majority of peoples' opinions occasionally align, sometimes it's mass hysteria. You can't put any faith in Consensus. All it does is tell you which way the wind is blowing, not if it's a foul wind or a soothing one. That's on you to figure out.

I like movie reviews a lot. Even ones I don't agree with, are generally fun to read and often they'll give me a lot to think about or hadn't considered. "Food for thought", as it were. And that's great, but at the end of the day, nobody can predict in advance what I'll like or dislike, so telling me what they think is simply Raw Data to consider and nothing more.

People don't like to admit it, but predetermining their own opinion based on other peoples' aggregate review scores is the ultimate example of "letting other people tell you what to think." Which every single person swears up and down that they don't do. And yet, if they're ever forced into a debate about a movie's quality, at SOME point, they'll say, "Well, EVERYONE on RT said it's ________," as if that actually means anything at all. I think it's telling that actual movie critics talk more about how useless RT scores are than anyone else.

I love movie reviews, but at the end of the day, like movies themselves, they're just entertainment. Aggregate scores are fountains of misinformation. It's so ridiculous that they've become so important to a movie's bottom line that we have situations like this happening, with people manipulating these websites trying to skew the narrative. It's so silly.

This movie will do Just Fine with or without RT, thank you very much. But at the same time, it's a very telling situation.
------------

On the subject of reviews, I realized some time ago that I'm much more apt to read reviews that I don't agree with, versus ones that I do agree with. I generally figure if there's an angle I hadn't already thought of, I'm not going to find it by reading the thoughts of someone I already agree with. If I like a movie, I generally skip most of the reviews saying they liked it and focus on reading the ones from people who didn't, or vice-versa. Even if the person won't change my mind, I always find it interesting to see what we disagreed on, and whether they're full of sh*t or actually saw something I didn't. Does anyone else do this often? Just curious.

[snake]

I'm starting to think all of the backlash for this movie exists solely on the internet. Everybody I know interested in Marvel is generally anticipating the movie because it looks like just another Marvel movie. Nothing drastic is being changed, no one is being killed off- it just looks like another slightly above average comic book film proven to satisfy audiences. When Ghostbusters 2016 was coming out, the hate against it was real. I heard the backlash from real people I knew, and not just words on a screen. With Captain Marvel, I think it's different.

The feminist/SJW stuff is marketing. It's all it is, and it's all it was ever intended to be. I'm not surprised that it's getting slammed online, like most things are, but I think you guys are seriously exaggerating the effect it's going to have on the movie. Both sides are acting extremely retarded, for lack of a better term. One for taking stronk wymn marketing to heart, and the other for further suppressing freedom of speech in relation to f*cking funny book movies by censoring reviews in advance. Not everything is an identity politics showdown, and especially not a movie that will be relatively harmless in the long run. We're not getting a feminist propaganda film, we're getting the run-of-the-mill Marvel movie that's guaranteed to make a billion dollars just like every other run-of-the-mill Marvel movie that's made a billion dollars. Captain Marvel would be the same film whether it was made in 2009 or 2019.

Pick your battles, folks. Save all that ammo for Episode IX when it comes out. I'm all for laying out on Disney when that sh*tshow hits theaters.

[Leo656]

IX almost HAS to be better than VIII, unless they left the goddamn lens cap on for half of shooting and had to replace 2/3s of it with stock footage of a lizard sunning itself on a rock. And that would actually probably be more engaging than VIII. And it would still make $1.6 billion.

[Redeemer]

... and, how did you come to that conclusion?



Just looking at box office numbers. If you look at Marvel's hulk movie or Captain America: The first avengers. Rule of thumb is that for a movie to be successful it must make double its budget at the box office and neither of those movies did that.



Okay, I'm trying to understand you.

You don't think this will be a good movie - based on what (in the trailers) exactly?

Thats why I have little interest in the movie. There is nothing in the trailers that pop out and make me want to go see the movie. I think it maybe bc of how saturated the super-hero market has been the last few years, but like I said the trailers have not been able to grab my interest. Now if we look at the new avengers infinity war part 2 trailer and I see Ronin....well now you have my interest.



Black Panther didn't have the fan-base either; it was still able to outperform and surpass expectations.


But Black Panther was a good movie and it had a lot of cultural drive behind it...Being seen as the first black super-hero movie (Which isn't even true :lol: )
But despite that it was just a good movie so it didn't need the fan base to hold it up, it stood on its own merit.

If Captain Marvel is a good movie then it will do well in the box office like any other marvel movie. My point was that it can't be like Iron Man 3. (Be a terrible movie and still do well at the box office bc of its fan base.)


So, you think that this film will flop, yet you want to "wait and see" it's performance/reception?

That ... doesn't make any sense ...

I think this movie Could flop just bc how unknown Captain Marvel is. In fact Captain Marvel is more well known for being a copy right infringement than its own character :lol:

My point is I don't know I this movie could be a flop, but I can also see it doing very well given that it have direct ties to the next avengers movie and that there is a cultural push behind this movie as well.

[snake]

IX almost HAS to be better than VIII, unless they left the goddamn lens cap on for half of shooting and had to replace 2/3s of it with stock footage of a lizard sunning itself on a rock. And that would actually probably be more engaging than VIII. And it would still make $1.6 billion.

I'll give you a special, time-travel assisted review of IX from future-me: "Eh."

The franchise is so dead to me at this point that IX is going to be the most by-the-books, generic trash and it's not even going to garner that much of a disappointment from me. In fact, I'm just going to be content that the franchise can remain somewhat dormant after this, at least on the big screen. The TV shows still have some momentum behind them, and depending on whether Disney cheaps out or not, I might even like them. Star Wars needs a break, and not from overexposure- but from mismanagement. I'm still in shock over how they sunk a once unsinkable ship to the point where the old fans have stopped caring. I'm not fighting, no one's fighting, I'm just apathetic. It's almost therapeutic, in a way, to stop caring about Star Wars. I stick to what I like- the toys, the Original Trilogy, and the Clone Wars cartoon. I'm fine with keeping it that way.

[Xav]

I think Rotten Tomatoes is doing the right thing. a lot of the times and not just with Captain Marvel but other movies. There are fake reviews or posts. and its usually by trolls. There's no way of knowing what is real and what isn't.

Some are arguing that they are silencing the critics. But in reality. They are trying to remove the fake reviews which are usually from trolls who are review bombing. and you see that almost everywhere.

The movie is not going to suffer because of this. Rotten Tomatoes isn't really relevant any more. Most of that stuff come from people who are members in that site. and not the average moviegoer. I doubt they go to Rotten Tomatoes for anything.

Some people are overeacting over comments from Brie Larson. Which are completely taken out of context.

This is over supposed comments that she said. That she hates white males. Which isn't true. People see that. and then lose there **** over comments taken out of context.They aren’t review bombing they are posting their interest or lack thereof for a movie. They are removing the Want to See score and that has to do with those saying if they want to see it or not. So stop lying and trying to make it out like these people are posting a review for a movie that isn’t out yet. People have a right to say if they want to see a movie or not. Just because it doesn’t go with your agenda doesn’t give you the right to put them down and try to silence them or make them look insignificant.

[Leo656]

Yooooo, I heard TigerClaw's favorite rapper was MARKY MARK. :tcool::tcool::tcool:

#whatamark
#wrestlerhumor
#nobodygetswrestlerhumor
#idonthavetwitterits4f@gs

[TigerClaw]

They aren’t review bombing they are posting their interest or lack thereof for a movie. They are removing the Want to See score and that has to do with those saying if they want to see it or not. So stop lying and trying to make it out like these people are posting a review for a movie that isn’t out yet. People have a right to say if they want to see a movie or not. Just because it doesn’t go with your agenda doesn’t give you the right to put them down and try to silence them or make them look insignificant.
Those people are losing their **** over comments taken out of context. Do your research before jumping into conclusions. 😉

[Vegita-San]

imagine if someone said a movie wasn't made for a black man.

can you imagine how many people would rightly loose their crap then?

it's just appropriate to trash white males these days and that is what everyone of all races and genders are tired of.

[Andrew NDB]

So the "Want to See" score on Rottentomatoes got in the way of social justice? Is that what I'm hearing?

[Xav]

Do your research before jumping into conclusions. 😉I did do my research, and again there are no "reviews" being posted, merely people selecting whether or not they intend to see the movie.

[neatoman]

So the "Want to See" score on Rottentomatoes got in the way of social justice? Is that what I'm hearing?

Possibly? They are trying to hype up that this is a superhero movie with a female lead as some kind of monumental achievement.
Even though Wonder Woman only came out two years ago, was a massive hit at the box office, featured an historically more popular/relevant character than Carol Danvers and it's not hard to point to earlier action movies starring women. Plus the fact that this movie only exist because Marvel has literally been pushing Mar-Vell and his derivates for over half a century, just to make sure they can keep a damn trademark. Because the comics starring Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel are not popular, like at all, they get cancelled after less than a year and are only getting shorter. Using her, especially this version of her, for a movie would otherwise be seen as a bad idea. But let's just pretend Captain Marvel is somehow unique enough to be considered important for social justice.
Though the official reason is that they think the poll is confusing.

[Andrew NDB]

I did do my research, and again there are no "reviews" being posted, merely people selecting whether or not they intend to see the movie.

Apparently this is not allowed anymore because Disney didn't like the way it was looking for Captain Marvel?

This seems like when Sony got IMDB to shut all of their message boards down because people were hating on the all-female Ghostbusters remake. We can't have... y'know... discussion about a thing, unless it suits the agenda.

[Autbot_Benz]

guess I am a "review bombing troll per the media " because i have no interest in Captain Agenda.

Shazam can't come fast enough

[Papenbrook]

It doesn't matter.

Captain Marvel will still make over a billion in revenue. It will still be held up as a groundbreaking work for critics. I guarantee that it will even be considered for prestigious awards.

So, stop making this the next BvS.

[Krutch]

The movie will by no means bomb. Though, there's a real chance it might get off to a slower start than expected. I suspect a lot of people taking a pass at this movie will begin hearing that it's required viewing for Infinity War part 2 and inevitably throw in the towel and just go see it.

[Autbot_Benz]

It doesn't matter.

Captain Marvel will still make over a billion in revenue. It will still be held up as a groundbreaking work for critics. I guarantee that it will even be considered for prestigious awards.

So, stop making this the next BvS.

https://i.imgur.com/UZNmSmx.gif

[TigerClaw]

I did do my research, and again there are no "reviews" being posted, merely people selecting whether or not they intend to see the movie.
There's more to it then that. There are a group of people who took offense to comments Brie Larson made completely out of context. So they are intentionally lowering the Want To See It Score.

Rotten Tomatoes have dealt with these kinds of people before when Black Panther came out. And it did not affect its performance at the box office. So I applaud Rotten Tomatoes for finally dealing with these issues.

Its so crazy that. Somebody created a site just to vote Not Interested or Want To See it for Captain Marvel.
https://biograffi.com/potatometer

[Leo656]

I don't see how anything she said could be taken out of context. She's just ignorant.

Lucky for her, she's pretty hot, so we forgive that kinda thing.

[Papenbrook]

Its so crazy that. Somebody created a site just to vote Not Interested or Want To See it for Captain Marvel.
https://biograffi.com/potatometer



:lol: What the hell?! :lol:

These people are ... just so pathetic! Like, to take it this far is just ...

It just goes to show you how insecure they are.

[Andrew NDB]

She will defeat Thanos... in court for sexual assault.

[TigerClaw]

:lol: What the hell?! :lol:

These people are ... just so pathetic! Like, to take it this far is just ...

It just goes to show you how insecure they are.
Its going to die down once the movie comes out next weekend. And it will make billions at the box office. But be weary though. They might intentionally try to spoil the movie for everyone. So you may have to avoid the social media when you go see it.

[neatoman]

She will defeat Thanos... in court for sexual assault.

Ah, I see. An adaptation of Avengers #200 with Thanos replacing Marcus. A bold move indeed... ;)

I mean it sounds like it would be even more horrible than the comic and if expressed disinterest can cause hyperbolic accusations of misogyny, then such a thing would be like nuking the internet. But that actually would be something unique and worth talking about.

https://www.geekinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/geek_insider_msmarvelsex.png

[Xav]

There's more to it then that. There are a group of people who took offense to comments Brie Larson made completely out of context. So they are intentionally lowering the Want To See It Score.

Rotten Tomatoes have dealt with these kinds of people before when Black Panther came out. And it did not affect its performance at the box office. So I applaud Rotten Tomatoes for finally dealing with these issues.So lowing the Want To See It Score did not affect Black Panther performance, yet this is somehow a issue that has to be dealt with? :roll:

[Autbot_Benz]

So lowing the Want To See It Score did not affect Black Panther performance, yet this is somehow a issue that has to be dealt with? :roll:

agreed hell Ghostbusters 2016 didn't even cause something this big and tons of people hated it

[Papenbrook]

Its going to die down once the movie comes out next weekend. And it will make billions at the box office. But be weary though. They might intentionally try to spoil the movie for everyone. So you may have to avoid the social media when you go see it.


Oh, I know it will.

It's just too hilarious to witness the fallout among sexist fanboys who are too insecure to accept that the new phase will be headlined by the very first, female-led Marvel flick. So insecure, that they will intentionally ruin this flick for others.

Don't worry, though. Even through the silent screams of online fanboys, it's success will be inevitable. Capt.- Marv. will rise through it all! :D

[Autbot_Benz]

It really is Ghostbusters 2016 again If you don;t like or want to see Captain Marvel your a sexist misogynistic fanboy

https://www.cnet.com/news/rotten-tomatoes-president-we-didnt-change-site-to-protect-captain-marvel/ :roll:

Rotten Tomatoes President we didn't change site to protect Captain Marvel

https://i.imgur.com/zXco1bZ.gif

[Leo656]

Its going to die down once the movie comes out next weekend. And it will make billions at the box office. But be weary though. They might intentionally try to spoil the movie for everyone. So you may have to avoid the social media when you go see it.

Woah, optimistic much homeboy?

It might make around 1.2 if it does extremely well with all demographics, but I doubt it'll hit that 2 Bills mark.

Also, it's "wary". I can't stand when people do this.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Woah, optimistic much homeboy?

It might make around 1.2 if it does extremely well with all demographics, but I doubt it'll hit that 2 Bills mark.

Also, it's "wary". I can't stand when people do this.

I dunno 'bout you, but I'm WEARY of all this nonsense. :tlol:

[Leo656]

ACCEPTABLE!

See, this guy gets it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

ACCEPTABLE!

See, this guy gets it.

My fault for having surpassed a sixth-grader's vocabulary and understanding of homonyms.

[Leo656]

How the f*ck dare you. Do you even Internet, bruh?

So... you say you like "homonyms"? Or do you prefer the HOMO spin? :tgrin:

I love Robot Chicken. Best ever.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

How the f*ck dare you. Do you even Internet, bruh?

So... you say you like "homonyms"? Or do you prefer the HOMO spin? :tgrin:

I love Robot Chicken. Best ever.

Inferior hominids have difficulty with homonyms, homo or no homo.

Robot Chicken is essential to a healthy sense of humor. Unicorn mayo, kids.

[Leo656]

Inferior hominids have difficulty with homonyms, homo or no homo.

Robot Chicken is essential to a healthy sense of humor. Unicorn mayo, kids.

That is the gayest unicorn ever. :lol: Somethin' wrong with that boy. I love unicorns but I personally never met one that was such a fruit loop.

If it's a common condition, that might explain why they're so rare.

[TigerClaw]

I just came across this on Twitter. Its a list of rules and canned responses for dealing with trolls over Captain Marvel.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/105WHXjq_UvYjv8OPgSTV9AnzVN2P0t4TnVhzGdgVuwU/edit

[Leo656]

I just saw a short trailer on TV. What's the canned response for, "That shot of her flying is some PS3 ish"?

[Turo602]

Why do Social Justice Warriors feel the need to argue with people even if they're just so-called "trolls?" Whatever happened to not engaging them? How emotionally weak and sad do you have to be to seek out arguments to use on trolls about a movie?

[Jester]

I see a lot of Articles claiming that a lot of the backlash towards Captain Marvel is a bunch of whiny Fanboys who don't like women in their Clubhouse but I forget was there this much hatred for Wonder Woman when it was releasing.
I'm pretty sure fans were excited about Wonder Woman coming out I don't remember there being this kind of immediate angry nerd rage so what is it? Is it a bunch of angry fanboys who arebjust plain misogynist, who hate women in superhero movies or is it just the Marvel has done a really crappy job of marketing this movie?

[Allio]

Pretty much what this guy says

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[Andrew NDB]

It'd be the equivalent, if this was 1996... the media and the marketing machine scouring the internet and finding, like, 2 guys' Geocities pages where they talk bad about Captain Marvel... and then make big stories about angry fanboys on the internet.

Most of this is largely manufactured. Or exaggerated. I mean, if I could, part of me would want to go and mark "Not going to see" on the Captain Marvel Rottentomatoes just to be a heckler. I fully intend to see the movie opening weekend, regardless of eyeball rolling press stuff from Brie or the marketing campaign.

It's just not a "real" problem.

[neatoman]

By the way, six days. I don't know about the rest of the world but this movie comes out in six days over here. I got some free time then, so I'll probably see it opening day. If I do then I'll tell everyone here wheter it's a masterpiece of feminist achievements or a horrible pile of **** that ought to be retconned out of the series. (Or just mediocre, that works too).

[Jester]

I probably won't see it theatrically and that's only because I'm broke and I have two children to try either find a sitter for or take to a movie theater and try and deal with them screaming and carry it on so yeah. My wife and I don't go to the movies much it has to be something we're both really excited to see before we take the time to go see it in the theaters.

[Vegita-San]

I see a lot of Articles claiming that a lot of the backlash towards Captain Marvel is a bunch of whiny Fanboys who don't like women in their Clubhouse but I forget was there this much hatred for Wonder Woman when it was releasing.
I'm pretty sure fans were excited about Wonder Woman coming out I don't remember there being this kind of immediate angry nerd rage so what is it? Is it a bunch of angry fanboys who arebjust plain misogynist, who hate women in superhero movies or is it just the Marvel has done a really crappy job of marketing this movie?

Wonder Woman was smart. they avoided the femenist marketing agenda so many movies with a woman lead tend to fall into these days.

the movie itself may have been nothing special, but it was well done and fun.

Captain Marvel is declared as a femenist movie by Disney, IIRC, and is acting like it right out of the publicity gate.

that is what everyone is so pissed off about. and are planning to boycot the movie.

[Papenbrook]

So ..., don't watch it, then ...?

There will be plenty of others who would want to watch and enjoy the film.

[Andrew NDB]

There is apparently an actual scene in the movie where a male tells her that she needs to smile more:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_marvel/captain-marvel-brie-larson-weighs-in-on-the-smiling-controversy-and-reveals-how-the-movie-addresses-it-a166807?fbclid=IwAR10uwdWP5W7mY2av930AqvVxa6vuX2Ys RCScDiIK-CefD2FpOGJglOd2Ik

Anyone care to wager whether or not that ends up being a white male?

[Papenbrook]

Okay. Now y'all just lookin' for any reason to pick on this flick. :mad:

Just ... stop. :flaming: :roll:

[Candy Kappa]

Is it a bunch of angry fanboys who arebjust plain misogynist, who hate women in superhero movies or is it just the Marvel has done a really crappy job of marketing this movie?

It's probably the same handful of gatekeeping neckbeards who raged about Carol not being fappable enough cause she had a defined jawline and was drawn proportionally like a real muscular woman in the comics.

[Andrew NDB]

It's probably the same handful of gatekeeping neckbeards who raged about Carol not being fappable enough cause she had a defined jawline and was drawn proportionally like a real muscular woman in the comics.

Are we sure those people exist?

[Candy Kappa]

Are we sure those people exist?

oh, they do. I'm sure they're a small minority, but they where loud as **** during CWII


Which probbaly was also the same jackwagons that didn't think Brie was pleasing enough to look at, casue she wasn't smiling on the posters. So they ran pictures of her as CM through FaceApp to make her smile.

[Autbot_Benz]

Brie everytime she opens her mouth she becomes that much more unlikeable

[Andrew NDB]

Which probbaly was also the same jackwagons that didn't think Brie was pleasing enough to look at, casue she wasn't smiling on the posters. So they ran pictures of her as CM through FaceApp to make her smile.

OK, so one guy on the internet...

[Turo602]

There is apparently an actual scene in the movie where a male tells her that she needs to smile more:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_marvel/captain-marvel-brie-larson-weighs-in-on-the-smiling-controversy-and-reveals-how-the-movie-addresses-it-a166807?fbclid=IwAR10uwdWP5W7mY2av930AqvVxa6vuX2Ys RCScDiIK-CefD2FpOGJglOd2Ik

Anyone care to wager whether or not that ends up being a white male?

Didn't people bitch about Henry Cavill's Superman not smiling enough?

[Andrew NDB]

Didn't people bitch about Henry Cavill's Superman not smiling enough?

They did, come to think of it. If it'd been a woman and a few years later, there would probably be dozens of ire articles written about it.

[Vegita-San]

Didn't people bitch about Henry Cavill's Superman not smiling enough?

they ABSOLUTELY did. along with him being too murdery and not acting supermanery enough.


You have no idea how nice it was to see Superman smile on Supergirl. about the only good thing to come out of that mess of a series.

[Candy Kappa]

OK, so one guy on the internet...

sure :lol:

[neatoman]

I wonder, since Disney is about to obtain the X-Men and if this movie does end up underperforming, do you think?...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f89881acd0b30049a29af8bed01846df/tenor.gif?itemid=5056826

[Candy Kappa]

I doubt it, Carol hasn't been Ms. Marvel for a long while.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I know, and it's a little disappointing. That's the name I've known her as the longest, and the one I grew up with.

[Krutch]

I wonder, since Disney is about to obtain the X-Men and if this movie does end up underperforming, do you think?...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f89881acd0b30049a29af8bed01846df/tenor.gif?itemid=5056826

The sooner the better! :P

Nah I'm just messin. Though I hope that happens eventually. It's one of my favourite defining moments of Rogue's history.

[neatoman]

I doubt it, Carol hasn't been Ms. Marvel for a long while.

No not that, I mean Rogue permanently draining her powers. If this movie really does end up being a disappointment, then that would be a convenient way to get rid of Carol. You know like how the Hulk movie didn't do so well, so they just kind of ignore it and turned the Planet Hulk adaptation into a Thor sequel.

[Candy Kappa]

No not that, I mean Rogue permanently draining her powers. If this movie really does end up being a disappointment, then that would be a convenient way to get rid of Carol. You know like how the Hulk movie didn't do so well, so they just kind of ignore it and turned the Planet Hulk adaptation into a Thor sequel.

ah, Yeah. That's a possibility

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder, since Disney is about to obtain the X-Men and if this movie does end up underperforming, do you think?...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f89881acd0b30049a29af8bed01846df/tenor.gif?itemid=5056826

The sooner the better! :P

Nah I'm just messin. Though I hope that happens eventually. It's one of my favourite defining moments of Rogue's history.

I bet it happens. They will definitely be looking at ways to "handshake in" the new X-Men with the existing MCU movies, properties. That would be one way right there.

[Leo656]

they ABSOLUTELY did. along with him being too murdery and not acting supermanery enough.


You have no idea how nice it was to see Superman smile on Supergirl. about the only good thing to come out of that mess of a series.

More like, "Behaving appropriately within the context of the story he was in," which didn't afford many Happy Sunshine moments. He smiled when it was appropriate, and displayed other emotions when appropriate. That's not improper. Nor did be "murder" anyone. :roll:

I can't believe there's an arbitrary "Smile Counter" for super-hero movies now. These things aren't important. Some people just want to complain.

I agree that Supergirl is terrible. I disagree about Tyler; he is also terrible. That show wouldn't still be on if not for the current climate of gender politics.

Hopefully this film won't be as heavy-handed as some of the marketing. And I say "some" because, while I have seen a few ads that were definitely slanted, I've also seen several that were neutral. It doesn't look interesting to me personally, but it doesn't look any different from the standard MCU fare. I think anyone who has already enjoyed the others but is dismissive of this one because of gender politics is jumping the gun a bit. It's probably fine.

[Jester]

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/FB_IMG_1551384436970.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/EW%20cover.png

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/EW%20cover%2002_3.png

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/EW%20cover%2003_1.png

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/EW%20cover%2004.png

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1955532/thumbs/1507861645157.gif

[Andrew NDB]

Well... that's not very reassuring. Last cover it was "The Future is Female" and now they're literally telling us she's coming to fight sexism?

WB owns EW, doesn't it? Maybe they're trolling Marvel...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Damn. I wanna see this movie, but I'm so sick of all the hype/hate surrounding it.

It's a fvcking Marvel movie, people. We know exactly how it's gonna play out. Make money (a billion, of course), audiences like it, plays it safe.

[Jester]

I'm just getting tired of people patting themselves on the back for inclusion which is something that movie should do regardless of brownie points and the media making it seem like if you don't want to see X/Y movie than you are a bad person.

[Krutch]

I'm just getting tired of people patting themselves on the back for inclusion which is something that movie should do regardless of brownie points and the media making it seem like if you don't want to see X/Y movie than you are a bad person.
This.

Into the Spider-Verse had a black Spider-Man in theatres for the first time ever and no one made a fuss about it because it wasn't being spun into an agenda by news or marketing. Nor did it have a single scene about "what it's like being black" or something like that. It just... was. And it was stronger for it.

[Papenbrook]

Here's the thing, though -

Sometimes, you need to show/display scenes and dialogue that showcase what it's like to be a woman/ person of color/ etc. It provides helpful analogies to those who view mainstream media as an important part of society. It helps them understand the views of individuals who don't fit into the idealized view of mainstream representation.

Plus, it helps a certain subset of individuals (who are often underprivileged/marginalized) by guiding them towards a more confident version of themselves. It makes them understand what they need to do if they ever deal with the situations/views presented in the medium(s) they consume.

That's pretty important, for the most part.

[Jester]

You're posting on a forum for people who relate to a group of mutated animals we live in a sewer right? We can relate to anything pretty much regardless of gender, race things like that.

[Papenbrook]

If every piece of media were like that, then we would have trouble communicating our grievances/ thoughts explicitly/ openly.

It would all just be subtext and metaphor, and we would never understand our issues with our society.

[Krutch]

Here's the thing, though -

Sometimes, you need to show/display scenes and dialogue that showcase what it's like to be a woman/ person of color/ etc. It provides helpful analogies to those who view mainstream media as an important part of society. It helps them understand the views of individuals who don't fit into the idealized view of mainstream representation.I understand where you're coming from, I just don't subscribe to that philosophy.
The sooner we stop celebrating our differences the sooner we'll stop seeing them.

[Andrew NDB]

You're posting on a forum for people who relate to a group of mutated animals we live in a sewer right?

If I didn't like you, I would be obligated to point out something (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Crisler%27s%20Law)...

[Prowler]

You're posting on a forum for people who relate to a group of mutated animals we live in a sewer right? We can relate to anything pretty much regardless of gender, race things like that.

Not to mention I, at least, watch anime and play Japanese video games often. And can relate to the characters fine. So I don't buy it when someone pulls the "I need characters to look like me so I can relate to them!". If that was the case why do kids all over the world love Japanese animation and video games? Or american cartoons, despite the characters in said toons being from a different country/culture from theirs?

I mean, I guess I can see why a kid who belongs to a minority group likes to see good role models on TV, but on the other hand, I don't remember kids I know back in the day, even ones who belonged to ethnic minorities, giving a damn about this kind of stuff on tv. They liked white and Japanese characters just fine, so I don't think it's as big of a deal as people online make it out to be. Just like I had no problems liking characters of different "races" and cultures or liking football players from different parts of the world in my football squad.

[Vegita-San]

i'm as white as they get and had no problem enjoying the hell out of fat albert and other shows like the cosby show growing up. I didn't care that there where little to no white people on them. I just enjoyed them for the good entertainment they where.

I don't see why the reverse wouldn't be true.

it's just hollywood being stupid hollywood... and thankfully, people of all races and creeds are starting to tire of this SJW culture to the point of boycotting.

[Prowler]

i'm as white as they get and had no problem enjoying the hell out of fat albert and other shows like the cosby show growing up. I didn't care that there where little to no white people on them. I just enjoyed them for the good entertainment they where.

I don't see why the reverse wouldn't be true.

it's just hollywood being stupid hollywood... and thankfully, people of all races and creeds are starting to tire of this SJW culture to the point of boycotting.

Yeah. I don't watch anime or a Kurosawa film asking myself every 5 minutes "why are there no White people in this?!" I doubt, let's say, black people or Indians ask themselves something like that either.

I feel like we're getting to a point where the American media wants it to be mandatory for every single piece of fiction to have every minority group represented in it just for the sake of it. That's absurd. Honestly, if someone can't relate to characters from different walks of life then they're the ones who might be prejudiced, just saying. Complaining about there not being any Black people in The Witcher games, a POLISH video game series based on Slavic mythology is just stupid, seriously. :lol:

[Turo602]

I never understood this narcissistic view that kids can only relate to characters that look like them or that somehow we're gonna like those characters more out of some bias. That feels like it's dividing more than it is bringing people together. I grew up liking Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and the X-Men because they were awesome. I'm not gonna suddenly discover Blue Beetle and think he's the greatest ever because he's Mexican.

What does bother me though, is that we live in a society that wants to push for diversity, but that diversity never means Hispanic. It means make so and so character black or female. It's like they're the two biggest cry baby race and gender, so white people and males have to support it out of some past guilt.

This is just like that racist flag episode in South Park. People keep paying too damn much attention to our differences for absolutely no reason, and it creates tension between people, just like this movie.

[Leo656]

Some really good posts in here. What else needs to be said?

Representation is nice, but not every character that represents a minority group deserves a parade just for existing.

I'm old enough to remember Milestone Comics, aka "Super-heroes For Black People", as if black people couldn't be bothered to like Superman and Batman. They "needed" their own characters "just for them", I guess. They had a "black variant" of just about every super-hero archetype... And in the end, black people kept buying Superman and Batman anyways, and the line that was created BY a group of minorities, FOR a group of minorities, went under in about a year. Which tells me that "representation" doesn't matter as much as 1. Good characters, and 2. Good stories. Out of the entire Milestone line, only Static had any measure of success. They even tried to bring it back a few years ago as part of the DCU proper, and people STILL don't care about Milestone. That speaks volumes.

People shouldn't be trying to win Bonus Points for inclusion; just tell good stories and keep it real, so to speak, and the rest takes care of itself. People can often recognize when they're being pandered to, and they generally don't like it.

[Storm Eagle]

I enjoyed Freaks and Geeks, and even though I was thinking the other day that it could have stood to have minorities in the cast, I still manage to enjoy it.

As for this movie, I'd like to see it too. I'd most likely end up having to wait out the home video release so I can rent it though, because, life. Still, I hope I can enjoy Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel as a character without the message of girl power jackhammered into my head.

[Voltron]

Yeah. I don't watch anime or a Kurosawa film asking myself every 5 minutes "why are there no White people in this?!" I doubt, let's say, black people or Indians ask themselves something like that either.

Truth.

I feel like we're getting to a point where the American media wants it to be mandatory for every single piece of fiction to have every minority group represented in it just for the sake of it.

Preach.

That's absurd. Honestly, if someone can't relate to characters from different walks of life then they're the ones who might be prejudiced, just saying. Complaining about there not being any Black people in The Witcher games, a POLISH video game series based on Slavic mythology is just stupid, seriously. :lol:

This belongs in a logic museum.

[Papenbrook]

Still, I wish people would stop ragging on this movie so hard.

It's unnecessary.

[Candy Kappa]

Complaining about there not being any Black people in The Witcher games, a POLISH video game series based on Slavic mythology is just stupid, seriously. :lol:

Sure, if you look past that Europe was diverse even back in the medieval times, and we're talking about a fantasy world where it's based off Europe in a certain time period, yet the game have potatoes in it which did not exist in Europe at that time.

And the whole "historically accurate/mythological accurate" is just lazy an unimaginative in a fantasy world.

But Witcher got Azar Javed, so it's fine.

[Papenbrook]

Captain Marvel 's ticket sales are already outpacing (https://www.cbr.com/captain-marvel-advance-ticket-sales/) the tickets sales of both Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

:D It's gonna rock this world come International Women's Day! :D

Your move ...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yeah. I don't watch anime or a Kurosawa film asking myself every 5 minutes "why are there no White people in this?!" I doubt, let's say, black people or Indians ask themselves something like that either.

I feel like we're getting to a point where the American media wants it to be mandatory for every single piece of fiction to have every minority group represented in it just for the sake of it. That's absurd. Honestly, if someone can't relate to characters from different walks of life then they're the ones who might be prejudiced, just saying. Complaining about there not being any Black people in The Witcher games, a POLISH video game series based on Slavic mythology is just stupid, seriously. :lol:

Getting to a point? More like reached it a few years back.

[newfan]

DC haven't done as well as Marvel with recent movies, I did like Wonder Woman though so I'm am more interested in that upcoming movie than this one. I know it ties in with Avengers but I don't think it's a must see before the next Avengers movie, less I am mistaken and there is a big story plot I shouldn't miss? Obviously she is in it so it might help become familiar with the character (as I'm not) but I can live with that.

[Storm Eagle]

Captain Marvel 's ticket sales are already outpacing (https://www.cbr.com/captain-marvel-advance-ticket-sales/) the tickets sales of both Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

:D It's gonna rock this world come International Women's Day! :D

Your move ...

One of my friends told me about that.

[Andrew NDB]

Well, it is "Avengers: Endgame: The Lead-in," if nothing else.

[Autbot_Benz]

This month is Women's History Month so know wonder Captain Marvel is out in march

[Redeemer]

Captain Marvel 's ticket sales are already outpacing (https://www.cbr.com/captain-marvel-advance-ticket-sales/) the tickets sales of both Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

:D It's gonna rock this world come International Women's Day! :D

Your move ...

Good to hear, maybe the trailers don't do the movie justice.

Do you have a link or the numbers? Curious to see if this movie will be able to break any records.

[Autbot_Benz]

According to this random broad who writes for The Mary Sue website(Which is a super SJW Feminist Site) Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't for men or women just for little kids to look up too


rachel leishman
‏Verified account @RachelLeishman

To all the men who complain about Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, it isn't for you. Hell, as much as I love them and cry, they aren't for me either. They're for the little girls and boys who get to look up and see these heroes and know they can do it too.

[Papenbrook]

According to this random broad who writes for The Mary Sue website(Which is a super SJW Feminist Site) Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't for men or women just for little kids to look up too


rachel leishman
‏Verified account @RachelLeishman

To all the men who complain about Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, it isn't for you. Hell, as much as I love them and cry, they aren't for me either. They're for the little girls and boys who get to look up and see these heroes and know they can do it too.

... and, what's wrong with that?

[Autbot_Benz]

... and, what's wrong with that?

https://i.imgur.com/dAR8dug.gif

[Jester]

Shouldn't art try to appeal to as large an audience as possible?

[Turo602]

... and, what's wrong with that?

It's ridiculous to write off these movies as "just for kids" when they're PG-13 and have been appealing to the mainstream audience for years now. It's as stupid as saying video games are just for kids. She's just hiding behind children to protect her agenda by trying to invalidate criticism with her nonsense.

[neatoman]

... and, what's wrong with that?

Seems... Strangely contradictory to dismiss concerns about the potential quality of the movie or questionable statements coming from the star, with the excuse that children are the target audience and as long as they (who haven't seen the movie yet either) like it then it's fine. Which of course brings up the question, what if children don't end up liking it? Then what? Who is the movie for if the alleged target audience responds negatively?

That and does anyone seriously consider Wonder Woman a children's movie or thinks Captain Marvel will be a children's movie? Both movies are rated PG-13 in the US, an age rating movies officially get because:
"Parents are urged to be cautious. Some material may be inappropriate for pre-teenagers." or "Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13"
And it's not even like Hollywood movies are made according to the director's vision and given whatever rating it happens to be in line with. Studios spefically aim for whatever rating they think will earn them the best income, they'll even go out of their way to reshoot and edit movies to fit the requirements. These movies, at least officially, meant for people above the age of 13. Not small children.

And maybe the made up half-alien space hero or the also made up literal goddess might seem like something a small child would look up to in a naive sort of sense, but 13 year olds? At that age you'd probably try to find more realistic role models and just think of fiction as entertainment, but more than that your number 1 priority is to masturbate as much as possible.

[ProphetofGanja]

Wow, a bunch of white guys decided that representation in media doesn’t matter
*eyes roll so hard they pop out of my f#cking head*

This place is a serious trip sometimes

[ProphetofGanja]

...At that age you'd probably try to find more realistic role models and just think of fiction as entertainment, but more than that your number 1 priority is to masturbate as much as possible.

Thank you for the laugh, neatoman, you’re definitely not wrong :lol:

[Turo602]

Wow, a bunch of white guys decided that representation in media doesn’t matter
*eyes roll so hard they pop out of my f#cking head*

This place is a serious trip sometimes

I'm not white. What has been said here isn't wrong either. Doesn't matter who said it.

[Redeemer]

Wow, a bunch of white guys decided that representation in media doesn’t matter
*eyes roll so hard they pop out of my f#cking head*

This place is a serious trip sometimes

:lol: You realize all of us are not white or guys right???? :lol:

I do agree this place is a trip. This place has quite frankly become a political arena. :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

Representation is fine... it's this notion that representation in film > quality that is pretty problematic. If you have a vision and your vision is for four friends going on an adventure, you shouldn't be bullied into making one of them black, one of them Chinese, and one of them a trans man... or conversely, you shouldn't get "bonus points" for doing that on your own (unless their racial/identities somehow fuel the plot). It seems like right now a lot of bonus points are being awarded to run of the mill movies that wouldn't be given a second thought if they weren't built up as "important" movies. That's not right.

And I'm not white either.

[Sumac]

If every piece of media were like that, then we would have trouble communicating our grievances/ thoughts explicitly/ openly.

It would all just be subtext and metaphor, and we would never understand our issues with our society.
Only if you have mental capacity of a brick.

And no, specifically saying: "this is what its like to be Black, woman, e.t.c." in a work, which has nothing to do with them is not a good idea, since it will be tacky and out of place and sometimes even offensive.

Complaining about there not being any Black people in The Witcher games, a POLISH video game series based on Slavic mythology is just stupid, seriously. :lol:
Last year there was a game called Kingdom Come: Deliverance. A rather good (or so I've heard) RPG about medieval Czech, developed by team from Czech itself, which attempted to stick as close to the history as possible in a video game.

Well, some "progressives" naturally were pissed off that in there were no "people of color" in the middle of a central Europe in Medieval times. "Progressive" game journalists attempted to make this story big, but since they have writing abilities of college drop-outs, which most likely they are, it had never picked up and the game was an enormous success.

Sure, if you look past that Europe was diverse even back in the medieval times
Sure, Jan.gif.

And the whole "historically accurate/mythological accurate" is just lazy an unimaginative in a fantasy world.
Not really, if that's a specific fantasy world based on the tales of specific region.
But I take it, you probably would be OK if a movie about Indian mythos included black people and Asians, since otherwise it is lazy and unimaginative. :lol:

According to this random broad who writes for The Mary Sue website(Which is a super SJW Feminist Site) Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't for men or women just for little kids to look up too


rachel leishman
‏Verified account @RachelLeishman

To all the men who complain about Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, it isn't for you. Hell, as much as I love them and cry, they aren't for me either. They're for the little girls and boys who get to look up and see these heroes and know they can do it too.
I can understand criticism of the men who dislike movie on the basis that it is about female superhero, but what else is there to criticize? You've wanted movie about female superhero - there you go!!
I swear, some SJWs just unpleasable bunch, if you give the movie that 100% aligned to their ideology, they still would rise a stink about something.

[Leo656]

Representation is fine... it's this notion that representation in film > quality that is pretty problematic. If you have a vision and your vision is for four friends going on an adventure, you shouldn't be bullied into making one of them black, one of them Chinese, and one of them a trans man... or conversely, you shouldn't get "bonus points" for doing that on your own (unless their racial/identities somehow fuel the plot). It seems like right now a lot of bonus points are being awarded to run of the mill movies that wouldn't be given a second thought if they weren't built up as "important" movies. That's not right.

And I'm not white either.

Wisdom and Truth.

[Xav]

According to this random broad who writes for The Mary Sue website(Which is a super SJW Feminist Site) Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't for men or women just for little kids to look up too


rachel leishman
‏Verified account @RachelLeishman

To all the men who complain about Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, it isn't for you. Hell, as much as I love them and cry, they aren't for me either. They're for the little girls and boys who get to look up and see these heroes and know they can do it too.Um, what men were complaining about Wonder Woman?

[Turo602]

Um, what men were complaining about Wonder Woman?

I know right? Wasn't it the feminists complaining about her armpits or some sh*t?

[Autbot_Benz]

Um, what men were complaining about Wonder Woman?

good question I never saw any

[ZariusTwo]

Wow, a bunch of white guys decided that representation in media doesn’t matter
*eyes roll so hard they pop out of my f#cking head*

This place is a serious trip sometimes

Representation is a just a forum weapon and/or buzz word these days, it's lost all meaning.

[Sumac]

I know right? Wasn't it the feminists complaining about her armpits or some sh*t?
Pssst! Don't mention it - you're breaking "progressive narrative" that only white men can be picky retards! :lol:

[Prowler]

Some really good posts in here. What else needs to be said?

Representation is nice, but not every character that represents a minority group deserves a parade just for existing.

I'm old enough to remember Milestone Comics, aka "Super-heroes For Black People", as if black people couldn't be bothered to like Superman and Batman. They "needed" their own characters "just for them", I guess. They had a "black variant" of just about every super-hero archetype... And in the end, black people kept buying Superman and Batman anyways, and the line that was created BY a group of minorities, FOR a group of minorities, went under in about a year. Which tells me that "representation" doesn't matter as much as 1. Good characters, and 2. Good stories. Out of the entire Milestone line, only Static had any measure of success. They even tried to bring it back a few years ago as part of the DCU proper, and people STILL don't care about Milestone. That speaks volumes.

People shouldn't be trying to win Bonus Points for inclusion; just tell good stories and keep it real, so to speak, and the rest takes care of itself. People can often recognize when they're being pandered to, and they generally don't like it.
Indeed. It's just like when a guy shows way too much interest in a chick. She'll be turned off by it, because the guy will come across as desperate.

Getting to a point? More like reached it a few years back.
I had a feeling it did already, but I wasn't 100% sure since I'm rather out of touch :lol:

Representation is fine... it's this notion that representation in film > quality that is pretty problematic. If you have a vision and your vision is for four friends going on an adventure, you shouldn't be bullied into making one of them black, one of them Chinese, and one of them a trans man... or conversely, you shouldn't get "bonus points" for doing that on your own (unless their racial/identities somehow fuel the plot). It seems like right now a lot of bonus points are being awarded to run of the mill movies that wouldn't be given a second thought if they weren't built up as "important" movies. That's not right.

And I'm not white either.
Exactly! That's how I feel as well.

[neatoman]

Come to think of it, wouldn't arguing "childhood role model" work better for the other Captain Marvel? You know, since he's actually a child.

[Andrew NDB]

Here's Michelle Yeoh on diversity in movies:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/2/crazy-rich-asians-star-michelle-yeoh-lets-not-nominate-movies-for-awards-based-on-gender-or-diversity

Good on her.

[Autbot_Benz]

Here's Michelle Yeoh on diversity in movies:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/2/crazy-rich-asians-star-michelle-yeoh-lets-not-nominate-movies-for-awards-based-on-gender-or-diversity

Good on her.

Finally someone who makes sense

[Papenbrook]

Yeah, for people with a disregard for gender/ racial representation, it makes sense.

[Jester]

You heard it here first folks, Michelle Yeoh, star of a movie with an all Asian cast, has a disregard for gender/racial representation.

[Turo602]

You heard it here first folks, Michelle Yeoh, star of a movie with an all Asian cast, has a disregard for gender/racial representation.

cAzGx53o_4I

[Autbot_Benz]

Brie wants to be a Jedi Now

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2019/03/03/star-wars-celebration-official-art-for-the-chicago-con-revealed/


Star Wars
✔
@starwars

"I got to hold his [@SamuelLJackson's] lightsaber! He brought it to me on set on May the 4th, and I cried. It was so cool. I wanna be a Jedi.’-@brielarson via @EW’s #CaptainMarvel cover story.

The Force is definitely with you, Captain. 💪

[Sumac]

Yeah, for people with a disregard for gender/ racial representation, it makes sense.
Yeah, because, everyone with different opinion are "disregarding" it.

How does it feel to live in the world where you are considering everyone to be an enemy? Must be pretty exhausting.

[Warhorse]

Yeah, for people with a disregard for gender/ racial representation, it makes sense.

Let me guess, you would be the kind of person signing a petition to turn one of the TMNT into a female just for representations sake?

[ZariusTwo]

Brie wants to be a Jedi Now

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2019/03/03/star-wars-celebration-official-art-for-the-chicago-con-revealed/


Star Wars
✔
@starwars

"I got to hold his [@SamuelLJackson's] lightsaber! He brought it to me on set on May the 4th, and I cried. It was so cool. I wanna be a Jedi.’-@brielarson via @EW’s #CaptainMarvel cover story.

That's cool, could you care to convey any of this emotion in the movie?

[Autbot_Benz]

That's cool, could you care to convey any of this emotion in the movie?

you want Emotion from Brie Larson in a movie :lol:

the best you will get is this

https://i.imgur.com/JvHnwJ2.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

you want Emotion from Brie Larson in a movie :lol:

the best you will get is this

https://i.imgur.com/JvHnwJ2.jpg

:ohwell::ohwell::ohwell:

:P

[Papenbrook]

... sexist and demeaning ...

... and on Women's History Month no less ...

[Autbot_Benz]

... sexist and demeaning ...

... and on Women's History Month no less ...

how is saying Brie having the emotional range of a plank of wood is sexist?

https://i.imgur.com/w7K4MOY.gif

[Sumac]

That's cool, could you care to convey any of this emotion in the movie?
Given emotional range of Rey, she can easily play her long lost sister or something like that.

[Papenbrook]

how is saying Brie having the emotional range of a plank of wood is sexist?


You're basically saying that she has to smile.

She can choose to show any emotion. You can't impose your standards on her character.

[Sumac]

... sexist and demeaning ...

... and on Women's History Month no less ...
Yeah, because, when you are criticizing one woman, you are automatically criticizing all women in the world.
If I say something negative about acting range of the male actors, would it mean that I am criticizing all men in the world? Or you won't be triggered by it, miss Snowflake?

And why should I care what month is this?
If it was teadrinkers month, I wouldn't be able to criticize people who drink tea or something? :lol:

[Papenbrook]

I just know that it's ESPECIALLY rude and disrespectful that he decided to say that on a month that honors women for their achievements and virtues.

[Andrew NDB]

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Leo656]

She can choose to show any emotion.

Benz literally just posted a meme proving that NO, she really can't. :lol:

Also :lol: at "women" and "virtues" in the same sentence.

[Turo602]

The whole concept of blank History Month is stupid. History is history, everyone should know it, celebrate it, and learn from it every day, not just on a certain month. Also, I wasn't aware Brie Larson represented all women. Guess that's why it's okay for her to take the role of Captain Marvel rather than let some black woman take it.

[sdp]

Brie Larson is ugly. It seems odd for Marvel to market this movie so much on it being a girl superhero movie, sure it's the first MCU one but DC beat them to the punch so it'll be hard to replicate that. Then again the MCU brand alone should help the movie no matter what so I doubt it'll bomb.

I wish Shazam was premiering this month too, the REAL captain marvel. I'll care for the MCU one when she's called Miss Marvel and has her 90s outfit.

[Leo656]

I think Brie is pretty hot, but that's about all she's got going for her.

I'll catch hell for this, but I'm generally not a fan of women "actors". "Acting" often involves a wide emotional range and an ability to express that range, and requires people to contort their facial expressions into some rather "unattractive" looks. Women are inherently afraid of appearing "not attractive" and thus don't throw themselves as deeply into a role as your average Brando or Gary Oldman would.

Most women can play ONE role extremely well, and then just parlay that across many roles across a career. Many famous actresses have publicly admitted to all of this, so it seems like a tough point to argue with.

I wouldn't call Brie Larson a "bad" actress any more than I would call Gal Gadot a "good" actress. They're all pretty equal, if we're being honest.

[Sumac]

You're basically saying that she has to smile.
You are projecting.
Get some anti-paranoia management.

I just know that it's ESPECIALLY rude and disrespectful that he decided to say that on a month that honors women for their achievements and virtues.
Oh, no! Someone was disrespectful of a particular female actor during whatever month, in one particular topic on one particular forum!! The HORROR!! Now female movements will be compromised forever and they might even lose voting rights, because of this post!!
I AM LEGIT SHOOOOOOOOOOK!!! :roll:

I'll catch hell for this, but I'm generally not a fan of women "actors". "Acting" often involves a wide emotional range and an ability to express that range, and requires people to contort their facial expressions into some rather "unattractive" looks. Women are inherently afraid of appearing "not attractive" and thus don't throw themselves as deeply into a role as your average Brando or Gary Oldman would.
This problem exist because of patriarchal society and not because of women inability to act.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm a big fan of women actors. There are many that are beasts, that throw themselves into a part.

Brie seems perfectly serviceable as Captain Marvel. Right now she is somewhere around... Goldie Hawn, circa 1986. With less diverse parts and far less charisma.

Did not deserve an Oscar for "Room." I was excited to see that and I did, maybe 2 months ago. Played like a Lifetime movie... where, kind of like Captain Marvel, the direction seemed to have been to keep her emotions as muted as humanly possible. And that's fine, that makes sense for the part. But that's not like a leap in acting history or anything... it's just a study in doing basically nothing.

That said, she was a lot of fun in 21 Jump Street as kind of the plucky foil/love interest. Haven't seen her in anything else.

[snake]

It's not even that she's giving a blank stare. Mia Jovovich in those awful Resident Evil movies is an example of an actress giving a blank stare. Contrary to what some are saying about her being stiff, Brie is actually conveying an emotion here: complete and utter boredom. She looks genuinely unexcited to be involved in one of the biggest franchises of all time. Christ, it's not like she's even a bad actress, because she's shown that she can be likeable in other films, too.

You just know she's an uppity bitch in real life.

[Andrew NDB]

It's not even that she's giving a blank stare. Mia Jovovich in those awful Resident Evil movies is an example of an actress giving a blank stare.

I loathe those movies with an honest passion.

Contrary to what some are saying about her being stiff, Brie is actually conveying an emotion here: complete and utter boredom. She looks genuinely unexcited to be involved in one of the biggest franchises of all time. Christ, it's not like she's even a bad actress, because she's shown that she can be likeable in other films, too.

You just know she's an uppity bitch in real life.

I don't know about her in real life, but if I had to conjecture based on interviews and role choices... she seems like a blond, somewhat more attractive Daria come to life.

[Papenbrook]

You guys seem to be misunderstanding her role in the arc.

She's supposed to show little emotion; she's a stoic woman. She's doing her part perfectly.

[Andrew NDB]

Obviously a cheap shot, but... lol...

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/brie.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

Obviously a cheap shot, but... lol...

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/brie.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kKrCIqb.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Damn, there's a lot of Brie Larson hate in here right about now... :teek:

I've only seen her in one thing, I think. She was forgettable. We'll see how this goes.

[Sumac]

You guys seem to be misunderstanding her role in the arc.

She's supposed to show little emotion; she's a stoic woman. She's doing her part perfectly.
There is a difference between being stoic and being brickfaced.

Of course, I haven't watched the movie, as anyone else here, I assume, but in general, it looks like she is less of a first and more of a second.

[Redeemer]

Damn, there's a lot of Brie Larson hate in here right about now... :teek:

I've only seen her in one thing, I think. She was forgettable. We'll see how this goes.

Nah... Not really, it was pretty tame until Penbrook started to call other members sexist for not being excited for a movie, trying to start fights essentially. It literally started with a stupid rotten tomatoes comment.......
I swear this place is like a soap opera sometimes :lol:

[Vegita-San]

I swear this place is like a soap opera sometimes :lol:

some people think this place is the wild west.

I've seen the real wild west, and it'd split your cowboy spiked boots.

although the MO of Papenbrook is how it starts to get that bad.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Nah... Not really, it was pretty tame until Penbrook started to call other members sexist for not being excited for a movie, trying to start fights essentially. It literally started with a stupid rotten tomatoes comment.......
I swear this place is like a soap opera sometimes :lol:

Let me clarify; a lot of people hating on Brie Larson's performances, not calling her out as a horrible human being.

Which I entirely agree with, based on my limited viewing history of BL.

Although there are a few people criticizing her looks. And, well... she's an actress. People gonna like her looks or hate her looks. Either way, that's their right. Myself, I ain't no 10 but yeah, Brie doesn't do it for me either.

To sum, it's a shame this movie has to be so polarizing in its marketing. I don't remember a bunch of "White people, this movie isn't for YOU!" for Black Panther a year... wait, was it only a year? Damn. A year ago.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm definitely still going to see the movie and I'm definitely not telling anyone to not see it, it's just... unfortunate the angle they're taking to market it. And pretty much everything that comes out of Brie's mouth when there's a microphone in her face when prompted to talk about the movie.

Though I admit... given everything that's going on, I'll probably be a little upset if when she shows up out of left field in Avengers: Endgame -- you know, the culmination of 11 years of MCU movies -- and just smashes Thanos silly. It's not earned.

[neatoman]

Obviously a cheap shot, but... lol...

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/brie.jpg

Tom Holland: Hey, Brie, wanna hear a joke so funny you'll laught your ass off?
Brie: Sure!
Tom: Oh wait, never mind, I can see you already heard it!

[Papenbrook]

Alright, you know what?

You guys win. Enjoy ragging on Brie Larson.

I'm done.

[Autbot_Benz]

Alright, you know what?

You guys win. Enjoy ragging on Brie Larson.

I'm done.

https://i.imgur.com/ZQv7l3O.gif

[Candy Kappa]

Obviously a cheap shot, but... lol...

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/brie.jpg

This is how Captain Marvel is going to defeat Thanos.

All of the Avengers are dummy thicc and when they sneak their ass cheeks claps, alerting everyone. CM will be able to sneak right up on Purple Chin and choke him out.

[Leo656]

Alright, you know what?

You guys win. Enjoy ragging on Brie Larson.

I'm done.

WHOOOOOO, that took foreeeeeeeeever, guys. :lol:

Anyways, in the interest of fairness, I liked Brie alright in "Kong: Skull Island". However, working in her favor was the fact that 1. The role didn't ask a whole lot of her, and 2. Tank Top.

Right now she's playing a character I don't care about, in a movie I don't care about, in a series I generally care little for. So all I'm left with to comment on are her looks and her generally-salty attitude. Her looks are alright by me, but the few clips I've seen of her interviews don't make her seem like anyone I'd wanna sit and have coffee with.

I still say this movie's going to do much better than okay, and all this hoopla is just people getting a bunch of stuff out of their system. I agree, the marketing is questionable, but anyone expecting it to under-perform are underestimating the Marvel Machine. Unless anyone seriously expects it to make $2 billion, in which case, they might wanna curb their enthusiasm a bit.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

WHOOOOOO, that took foreeeeeeeeever, guys. :lol:

Anyways, in the interest of fairness, I liked Brie alright in "Kong: Skull Island". However, working in her favor was the fact that 1. The role didn't ask a whole lot of her, and 2. Tank Top.

What was there to even like of her in that movie!? :tlol:

Seriously, man, I don't remember the tank top being that good. She was just "eh". "I'm gonna photograph all this and wear a baseball cap."

I think she wore a baseball cap? Man, who else was even in that movie?

John Goodman, Samuel Motherfvcking Jackson, John C. Reilly. Was anyone else in it? Besides Captain Marvel, self-appointed goddess-queen of the MCU?

[Candy Kappa]

I do not remember her in Skull Island...

[Andrew NDB]

For some reason I do remember her at the end of Skull Island, where she's in that room and they're talking about other monsters... but I don't remember even one thing she did during the core of the movie itself.

[Leo656]

An ad for the movie came up in my FB feed, so just for fun I decided to look at the comments. YIKES! :lol:

Almost every comment was in the vein of, "I'll just take my toxic masculinity and stay home, thanks", with the others taking them to task for not being more excited. It's like "Answer The Call" all over again. And those are the comments that have been allowed to stay up!

That got me thinking, though - and feel free to call this a "conspiracy theory" - but you remember how with "Answer The Call", Sony went out of their way to delete all the "regular" complaints about the movie - stuff like "I'm just not interested", "It just doesn't look funny," etc., and leave up all the Toxic Man-Rage comments, so as to insulate themselves and their film from any and all criticism, and create the narrative that EVERY single person who wasn't excited was a "hater" or "manchild"? Could this be a case of history repeating? Do you think Disney is "pruning" the comments on social media so they can mold the larger story to their liking, the way they did with "The Last Jedi"? I wouldn't put it past them.

It just jumped out at me because I really don't think there's THAT much hate against this film, NOR do I think all of the people saying they're going to skip it actually will. I fully expect 8 out of every 10 "I'm staying home" nerds to be there opening weekend. But going ONLY by what I see on social media, there seems to be a lot of anger and resentment and little else. Which is weird. That's why I think Disney is trying to craft their own narrative out of it.

As I've said before, if people paid good money - and lots of it - to see TWO Ant-Man flicks, then this movie has absolutely nothing to worry about. But the chatter surrounding it is... interesting.

They still might wanna put a "gag order" on Brie, though... just to be safe. :trazz:

[Autbot_Benz]

An ad for the movie came up in my FB feed, so just for fun I decided to look at the comments. YIKES! :lol:

Almost every comment was in the vein of, "I'll just take my toxic masculinity and stay home, thanks", with the others taking them to task for not being more excited. it's like "Answer The Call" all over again. And those are the comments that have been allowed to stay up!

That got me thinking, though - and feel free to call this a "conspiracy theory" - but you remember how with "Answer The Call", Sony went out of their way to delete all the "regular" complaints about the movie - stuff like "I'm just not interested", "It just doesn't look funny," etc., and leave up all the Toxic Man-Rage comments, so as to insulate themselves and their film from any and all criticism, and create the narrative that EVERY single person who wasn't excited was a "hater" or "manchild"? Could this be a case of history repeating? Do you think Disney is "pruning" the comments on social media so they can mold the larger story to their liking, the way they did with "The Last Jedi"? I wouldn't put it past them.

It just jumped out at me because I really don't think there's THAT much hate against this film, NOR do I think all of the people saying they're going to skip it actually will. I fully expect 8 out of every 10 "I'm staying home" nerds to be there opening weekend. But going ONLY by what I see on social media, there seems to be a lot of anger and resentment and little else. Which is weird. That's why I think Disney is trying to craft their own narrative out of it.

As I've said before, if people paid good money - and lots of it - to see TWO Ant-Man flicks, then this movie has absolutely nothing to worry about. But the chatter surrounding it is... interesting.

They still might wanna put a "gag order" on Brie, though... just to be safe. :trazz:

For me its looks really boring and that Brie needs to shut her ****ing mouth on Press Junkets unless its about the movie

[Vegita-San]

there is no doubt about it.

it's disney's turn to take a call letter from the page of paul feig and amy pascal.

they don't care that even with one movie under her belt, captain marvel has not EARNED the right to defeat thanos in the last 5 minutes of a movie. this is their 'girl power' glass ceiling, progressive bullet point movie. and to hell with everything else.

Brie gets to say everything they wish they could, in public. and if it fails, she gets to take the fall while protecting her bosses.

[Leo656]

I simply haven't been bothered to drop a dime on any of their movies since "Age Of Ultron". Once upon a time, I was mildly curious for Thanos, but once I found out that they weren't even going to try telling the story correctly I checked out entirely. Plus the 100-year build over 87 movies was exhausting.

So that's why I'm personally not invested, but I'm surprised at the current chatter. I figured everyone would be doing cartwheels for this, same as Black Panther.

Do we really KNOW that she's gonna just pop in and wreck house at the end of the Avengers flick? Granted, it sure seems that way, and I agree, that's kinda lame if true, but has that been confirmed or are we just going by what it looks like might happen?

I don't know. I feel compelled to speak up and say that some people just don't care because We Don't Care, NOT because it's a chick-led super-hero flick. Like, I might be persuaded to go see a She-Hulk movie, for instance, depending on various things. And I like Wonder Woman more than most people seem to. So my personal hang-up isn't about "Grrl Power" or even Brie being who she is; I simply wasn't interested when they announced this a few years ago and I'm still not interested. That should be allowed, I think.

Either way, I predict... let's say $1.2 billion.

[ToTheNines]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6feaa447c537ca34bb70e69d8e0821583791b0af001ea8d8d 7cdc622a4c059f.jpg

[Warhorse]

there is no doubt about it.

it's disney's turn to take a call letter from the page of paul feig and amy pascal.

they don't care that even with one movie under her belt, captain marvel has not EARNED the right to defeat thanos in the last 5 minutes of a movie. this is their 'girl power' glass ceiling, progressive bullet point movie. and to hell with everything else.

Brie gets to say everything they wish they could, in public. and if it fails, she gets to take the fall while protecting her bosses.

This is part of what has me resenting the movie and the character to begin with. Mainly because Feige went to several comic cons and has let the fans know that she will be the new face of Marvel after Robert Downey Jr leaves the franchise, and I'm with you, she has not earned that throne! ONly thing she is good for is Rogue fodder when she comes into the picture.

[snake]

Nines, if there were a like button, I would've liked your post. Just letting you know that.

[neatoman]

By the way, Rotten Tomatoes have finally counted a review. It qualifies as rotten.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_marvel/reviews/
https://www.timeout.com/us/film/captain-marvel

Joshua Rothkopf's opinion basically boils down to this:

Carol Danvers is not a good or likeable character.
Brie is not good in the role.
None of the other characters are that great either.
The movie seems to rely more on 90's nostalgia and references to the other movies than it's own narrative.


I'm still going to watch this movie tomorrow but judging from this and some other opinions I've seen, I get the feeling we have another Hulk, Iron Man 3 or Thor 2 on our hands here.

[Vegita-San]

there was an interesting article I Saw, that showed that maybe the powers that be over at Marvel Studios MIGHT be ashamed of this movie.

they seem to think that it's being quietly promoted and the promotions are being buried where they might not get noticed.

which kind of leaves me to believe this is DISNEY's girl power movie, and Marvel proper wants nothing to do with it, as they seem to be the last classic story tellers left in hollywood that know how to do fun, entertaining movies like they used to be done.

[ZariusTwo]

Reviews are coming in

Jeremy Jahns hated it (but then, he liked Suicide Squad so, erm...)

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John Campea: One of the more solid stories of the MCU, but not a great film

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[Autbot_Benz]

Another female on twitter saying Captain Marvel isn't for men

https://twitter.com/courtenlow/status/1102936799910023168

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Another female on twitter saying Captain Marvel isn't for men

https://twitter.com/courtenlow/status/1102936799910023168

I remember the days when movies were for everyone to enjoy. Simpler times, those days...

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go see a movie made for white-collar suburban Caucasian dads who always wear flip-flops and drink coconut rum.

[Autbot_Benz]

I remember the days when movies were for everyone to enjoy. Simpler times, those days...

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go see a movie made for white-collar suburban Caucasian dads who always wear flip-flops and drink coconut rum.

man the women are ****ing triggered today


Jamie Righetti
‏Verified account @JamieRighetti

Unless they’re actually in an Avengers movie, not interested in what a single man thinks about Captain Marvel. Not a single ****ing one!

[Andrew NDB]

Shesus. They're gonna f**k around and make this movie toxic to half the world, just like Ghostbusters 2016.

[Autbot_Benz]

Shesus. They're gonna f**k around and make this movie toxic to half the world, just like Ghostbusters 2016.

agreed guess I will be a good white man and stay in my garage banging my tools like a neanderthal :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Shesus. They're gonna f**k around and make this movie toxic to half the world, just like Ghostbusters 2016.

Yeah, except the Ghostbusters movie was trash, from script to characterization to being an actual Ghostbusters movie.

Captain Marvel should be fine. Script will be fine, most of the acting should be fine (we'll see regarding Brie herself). Skrulls will be fun, Fury will be fun, looking forward to my main man Ronan...

Should be fine at worst, and can only go up from there.

[AquaParade]

There is so much pettiness surrounding the film from all sides. It's completely sad, lame, and quite frustrating. No matter what happened with today's reviews, it was bound to be a ****-show online.

It looks like what we have is less-than-stellar (yet still generally good) reviews. Since the hype was so large, this means the most vocal "Anti-SJW's" will be obnoxiously gloating like children. They'll be relieved to do it after all the oppression both sides have been pushing on each other.

On the other side, we have plenty of biased-folk ready to make the saddest, most lame, and pathetic excuses you could hope for. They'll be taking the idea that some movies "aren't for everyone" and twisting it to unrecognizable, and probably sexist degrees, while pretending to be perfectly polite and civil about it.

Then there is stuff that just sounds really stupid...I saw a tweet today that reads "A thoughtful feminist male critic who I really like and admire truly disliked Captain Marvel. And that's okay. And I respect him. And it's not that his opinion is invalid, but also this is a movie that has experiential womanhood baked into it".
I can respect the fact that she is being civil with her words, but this essentially boils down to "YOU DON't GET IT."
Which feels more like "gate-keeping" and trying to say others reviews aren't as valid as yours.

Sad state of affairs regarding this movie. Makes me not want to see it.

[Leo656]

So far, all the reviews I'm seeing are "Meh."

Apparently there's a fight scene set to "Just A Girl", and now I wish this movie had a physical form so I could punch it into a coma.

[Autbot_Benz]

Apparently there's a fight scene set to "Just A Girl", and now I wish this movie had a physical form so I could punch it into a coma.

if that's true oh brother

[Leo656]

If anyone I knew in real life used phrases like "Experiential Womanhood" unironically, I'd constantly walk my dog on their lawn.

[snake]

Apparently there's a fight scene set to "Just A Girl", and now I wish this movie had a physical form so I could punch it into a coma.

Jesus christ, seriously? That’s so goddamn tacky.

[ZariusTwo]

Van Scyver!

nq3D_bFWNCQ

[Sumac]

There is so much pettiness surrounding the film from all sides. It's completely sad, lame, and quite frustrating. No matter what happened with today's reviews, it was bound to be a ****-show online.

It looks like what we have is less-than-stellar (yet still generally good) reviews. Since the hype was so large, this means the most vocal "Anti-SJW's" will be obnoxiously gloating like children. They'll be relieved to do it after all the oppression both sides have been pushing on each other.

On the other side, we have plenty of biased-folk ready to make the saddest, most lame, and pathetic excuses you could hope for. They'll be taking the idea that some movies "aren't for everyone" and twisting it to unrecognizable, and probably sexist degrees, while pretending to be perfectly polite and civil about it.

Then there is stuff that just sounds really stupid...I saw a tweet today that reads "A thoughtful feminist male critic who I really like and admire truly disliked Captain Marvel. And that's okay. And I respect him. And it's not that his opinion is invalid, but also this is a movie that has experiential womanhood baked into it".
I can respect the fact that she is being civil with her words, but this essentially boils down to "YOU DON't GET IT."
Which feels more like "gate-keeping" and trying to say others reviews aren't as valid as yours.

Sad state of affairs regarding this movie. Makes me not want to see it.
There is nothing worse than when people bring their political zealotry into the art.

This is perfect illustration on why modern versions of left and right are idiotic and has become parodies of real ideologies rather than anything resembling serious thing.

[Redeemer]

When I first read this thread today about the reviews coming in and being a bomb. I checked out rotten tomatoes which gives it a score of 85% at the moment. But when I looked at the positive reviews I see comments like
"More of a solid-building block for the future, than a must see solo adventure"
:ohwell:

I guess I was correct in my earlier thinking about this may not be the best movie, but is a must watch for current(Avengers infinity war.) and future movies (Assuming more captain marvels.) I think this will be one of those 5$ movie day specials :)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

When I first read this thread today about the reviews coming in and being a bomb. I checked out rotten tomatoes which gives it a score of 85% at the moment. But when I looked at the positive reviews I see comments like
"More of a solid-building block for the future, than a must see solo adventure"
:ohwell:

I guess I was correct in my earlier thinking about this may not be the best movie, but is a must watch for current(Avengers infinity war.) and future movies (Assuming more captain marvels.) I think this will be one of those 5$ movie day specials :)

I know I'm only seeing it because she's in Avengers 4 and all the other MCU connective tissue (Skrulls, Ronan, Kree, Nick Fury, SHIELD).

As for Brie and the main character, well... I'm open to being impressed, but my opinion's a shrug and a "meh?"

[Leo656]

Jesus christ, seriously? That’s so goddamn tacky.

That's a giant ball of corn held together with generous gobs of cheese, that's what it is.

[Autbot_Benz]

Once again The Mary Sue a Super Feminist SJW site is trying to claim all negative reviews of Captain Marvel are all men.

https://twitter.com/themarysue/status/1102982518142320640

Turns out that too is a lie

[sdp]

Now that Disney has X-Men, do you think there's any chance of Rogue getting her powers from Captain Marvel happening? I guess if this movie is a hit that won't happen but maybe if it underperforms and they don't have much of a role for her, it could be a cool way to bring in an iconic x-men character like Rogue in a new way that wasn't in the originals. Any chance Pietro and Wanda can become Magneto's kids again? I guess that's for another thread though.

[Leo656]

A lot of men loved Wonder Woman. And just to account for all variables, Brie Larson is most often considered "hotter" than Gal Gadot by conventional beauty standards, so I'm pretty sure that the men who liked Wonder Woman did so sincerely, and not because Gal gave them a bigger boner. The criticism OF the criticism seems ridiculous.

Every "meh" review that I've seen comes off as sincere, with several people saying that they had hoped to like it more than they did. On the other hand, the reviews that glow, like in Rolling Stone, STARTS the review by claiming anyone who isn't excited is an "Incel Virgin", THEN repeats every flaw the other reviews pointed out, before dismissing it all because "Jokes about Blockbuster Video, beepers, and Chick Power." It's ludicrous.

Sounds like they just hit a foul tip. The word "generic" is getting thrown around a lot. Oh well.

[Andrew NDB]

Now that Disney has X-Men, do you think there's any chance of Rogue getting her powers from Captain Marvel happening?

100% odds. It may not go down exactly like in the comics, but you can bet the new Rogue will bump into Captain Marvel and there will be a power absorption.

Also, if they weren't already going to do so, I bet Quicksilver comes back to life and his origin somewhat gets retconned (or is it "un"-retconned?) to better usher in Daddy.

[ZariusTwo]

Now that Disney has X-Men, do you think there's any chance of Rogue getting her powers from Captain Marvel happening?

That one episode of X-Men: The Animated Series is the hero we deserve these days.

[AquaParade]

I'm a little salty that I won't be able to watch this movie at home before Endgame.

With all the speculation that it will have at least subtle ties to Endgame, and with how invested I am in the MCU, I feel like I have little choice but to go see this in theaters.

Don't get me wrong, I do want to see the movie, but not that bad.

[neatoman]

Alright I've just seen it and It's not good. It did not make me angry and it's not confusing but it is very unengaging.

The story is not very interesting and nobody gives a good performance, even Samuel L. Jackson is bad in this and that man normally oozes charisma. The action seems like it would have been cool in any other movie but kind of comes across like the action in a Michael Bay movie. It isn't abused like in a Michael Bay movie but it has that same overedited quality to it, as well as the lack of investment in the characters that would make it mean something. Then there's the obligatory Marvel humor/quips and none of them were funny, the closest this movie got to making me laugh was when Fury curiously took a look at a dead Skrull's genitals (which was more weird than funny).

Go see the movie if you want, I can imagine someone liking it because it's not really that bad. But I would be lying if I said this movie wasn't one of the weaker entries in the MCU, if not the weakest.

I was told by someone 'but you have to see it', because of endgame but I didn't think it was going to be massively tied to it. Easy to find out when you guys watch it (or I read the reviews), if I don't have to then I might skip it.

You probably don't. The only new things that might be relevant are the Skrulls and the cat. Even Carol's backstory can be explained away in a single line, so I doubt you'll be all that lost.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The funny thing is, my wife doesn't want to see this one but I do. (Because the MCU movies are Pokemon, and I gotta see them all.)

So I'm going with the guys instead this Sunday night. I'll post my thoughts after the fact.

[newfan]

You probably don't. The only new things that might be relevant are the Skrulls and the cat. Even Carol's backstory can be explained away in a single line, so I doubt you'll be all that lost.

I'll prob wait for Endgame then and just grab this later on when it eventually hits sky tv.

[ZariusTwo]

I'm going to see it, I've got nothing better to do on a Friday, I always watch these movies so I have an informed opinion, regardless if I like it or not. You shouldn't dislike something you haven't had experience tasting.

If I'm lucky, it'll be Iron Man 2 level underrated at best.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm going to see it, I've got nothing better to do on a Friday, I always watch these movies so I have an informed opinion, regardless if I like it or not. You shouldn't dislike something you haven't had experience tasting.

If I'm lucky, it'll be Iron Man 2 level underrated at best.

Iron Man 2 at best, Iron Man 3 at worst? :tlol:

[newfan]

I'm going to see it, I've got nothing better to do on a Friday, I always watch these movies so I have an informed opinion, regardless if I like it or not. You shouldn't dislike something you haven't had experience tasting.
.

It's not a matter of disliking for me, I just haven't felt like racing to see it either. I like a lot of these movies and have gone to watch them when they come out but I've missed a couple too.

[Andrew NDB]

lol...

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/cm1.jpg

And just gonna leave this here...

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[Autbot_Benz]

Man The Blu Ray Forums are not having any "political BS" aka anti Captain Marvel Talk. I just got banned for next week because I told a fellow person who wasn't excited for Captain Marvel that if he didn't like it when he saw it. he would be a misogynistic white male troll who should be locked in a dungeon:lol:

[ZariusTwo]

Stuckman didn't even like it

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STUCKMAN.

[Andrew NDB]

How long until they give Black Nerd an envelope and he tells us how the movie is the best thing ever?

[neatoman]

I forgot to mention this earlier but there is a rather weird line about the United States air force in the movie. Carol's old friend claims the reason Carol was a test pilot is because women weren't allowed to have combat positions in the air force in 1989, so therefore testing new craft was the only thing they were allowed to do that was "impressive".

I had to check on Wikipedia to see if that was true because it sounded strange.

It's partially true according to Wikipedia. Women had been allowed in the Air Force since 1948 and were given equal status in 1976. They did serve as pilots in 1986 on tanker planes, though for some reason they weren't allowed to be in combat until 1993.

So the line is technically true (depending on your definition of "impressive") but somewhat misleading.

[Warhorse]

Reviews are coming in

Jeremy Jahns hated it (but then, he liked Suicide Squad so, erm...)

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John Campea: One of the more solid stories of the MCU, but not a great film

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You got people now demanding the removal of all movie critics on youtube if they don't have a degree in film or something.

[Vegita-San]

How long until they give Black Nerd an envelope and he tells us how the movie is the best thing ever?

he was so much better before he became an untrustworthy corporate shill.

[Andrew NDB]

You got people now demanding the removal of all movie critics on youtube if they don't have a degree in film or something.

Anyone that doesn't tow the social justice line, for certain.

[ZariusTwo]

he was so much better before he became an untrustworthy corporate shill.

Guy's an official Power Ranger, he can't afford to disguise it now

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/dontlikeit.gif

Jesus... you guys gotta read the comments section of this video. And look at the likes vs. dislikes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTPhWGtr4vQ

"My wife's boyfriend recommends this movie."

"After watching this, I think I made a mistake booking the tickets early."

"She seems like someone who's always going to ask for the manager."

"Disney: Ok Brie we need some damage control. Go be friendly.
Brie: Does not compute."

"She is the complete opposite of likeable, funny, and witty."

"Not sure how someone can come across so unlikeable in an interview that was meant to make them more likable and relatable."

lol...

[ZariusTwo]

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[neatoman]

The more I think about it, the more I realise how this movie feels like a step backwards. It's kind of like if Man of Steel impregnated the first Thor, then the baby was raised by the first Ghost Rider and had Spider-Man 3 as a teacher.

[Leo656]

I'm just completely baffled by the response (having not seen the movie itself). I really figured this would be one of those "bulletproof" ones. I never expected that the first MCU film to get a middling critical response would be "Finally, Someone With A Vagina: The Super-Hero Movie". I mean "Black Panther" got the cover of TIME Magazine; I figured this one would get a parade.

People are saying this one is "Meh", but a lot of them have been "Meh" and this one is just the first time a bunch of people all noticed at once. Wonder why now and not before? It's weird.

I still predict huge bank, though. The reviews are a bit embarrassing but it won't stop anyone from going to see it. A lot of people are like CKD and they just go see these things ritualistically at this point.

[ZariusTwo]

People are saying this one is "Meh", but a lot of them have been "Meh" and this one is just the first time a bunch of people all noticed at once. Wonder why now and not before? It's weird.

"What have I been saying all these years Tony? What have I been saying all these years"-Bobby Hennan

[Leo656]

"What have I been saying all these years Tony? What have I been saying all these years"-Bobby Heenan
That bit never gets old. :lol:

Also: The jokes people are making about Brie Larson's butt double are very mean and very funny.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still predict huge bank, though. The reviews are a bit embarrassing but it won't stop anyone from going to see it. A lot of people are like CKD and they just go see these things ritualistically at this point.

I've actually got a funeral to go to this weekend so now I dunno when I'll see this. Whatever viewing I can line up on an off-time for a $5 ticket, I guess... :tlol:

[AquaParade]

I'm just completely baffled by the response (having not seen the movie itself). I really figured this would be one of those "bulletproof" ones. I never expected that the first MCU film to get a middling critical response would be "Finally, Someone With A Vagina: The Super-Hero Movie". I mean "Black Panther" got the cover of TIME Magazine; I figured this one would get a parade.

People are saying this one is "Meh", but a lot of them have been "Meh" and this one is just the first time a bunch of people all noticed at once. Wonder why now and not before? It's weird.

I still predict huge bank, though. The reviews are a bit embarrassing but it won't stop anyone from going to see it. A lot of people are like CKD and they just go see these things ritualistically at this point.

I know what you mean. I actually think the MCU has been on fire and deserving of (most of) the praise for the last handful of years now. The only one I don't feel like watching anymore is Guardians 2, but yeah, Guardians 2 received a ton of critical praise, so I am in the minority apparently. Oh, and Ant-Man 2, actually. I was terribly bored during that and it was heavily praised.

Before that, maybe the novelty of the shared universe thing was still in full-effect and bandaging any rougher aspects that were appearing. I'm just spitballin, I don't know. I can't remember the reception to films such as Thor 2, Iron Man 2, or Incredible Hulk. Did critics eat those up?

I feel sort of sadistic saying this, but as a big fan of the MCU, I'm glad to see them take a hit. That;s because I love so much of what they do, but I want to see them tighten up their weaknesses and be kept on their feet, creatively.

[Vegita-San]

Is Disney really so desperate that they are monitoring live streams via third parties to silence opinions?



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[Andrew NDB]

I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:

https://twitter.com/brielarson/status/916072035268333568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E916072035268333568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboundingintocomics.com%2F201 8%2F11%2F14%2Fcaptain-marvel-actress-brie-larson-receives-backlash-over-instagram-tribute-to-stan-lee%2F

The horror! Stay safe, Brie!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:

https://twitter.com/brielarson/status/916072035268333568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E916072035268333568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboundingintocomics.com%2F201 8%2F11%2F14%2Fcaptain-marvel-actress-brie-larson-receives-backlash-over-instagram-tribute-to-stan-lee%2F

The horror! Stay safe, Brie!

:tlol:

Wow, she is really embracing this lifestyle, isn't she? She's on the attack...

[Papenbrook]

Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.

Nobody's making fun of Britney!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l46Co9ioieLMCeyQM/giphy.gif

[Leo656]

She's rich, she'll be fine.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

She's rich, she'll be fine.

She works for Disney, she'll be fine. She'll get her own TV show if the nerds don't like her because she saves the guy from a heroic sacrifice because "all we need is love."

Whoops, sorry. Wrong persecuted Disney actress.

[Warhorse]

I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:

https://twitter.com/brielarson/status/916072035268333568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E916072035268333568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboundingintocomics.com%2F201 8%2F11%2F14%2Fcaptain-marvel-actress-brie-larson-receives-backlash-over-instagram-tribute-to-stan-lee%2F

The horror! Stay safe, Brie!

And, we will be going from Robert Downy Jr/Ironman to this creature as the new face of the MCU. What was Kevin Feige thinking? I'm beginning to think it was with the other head.

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:

https://twitter.com/brielarson/status/916072035268333568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E916072035268333568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboundingintocomics.com%2F201 8%2F11%2F14%2Fcaptain-marvel-actress-brie-larson-receives-backlash-over-instagram-tribute-to-stan-lee%2F

The horror! Stay safe, Brie!

Why does Brie hate men so much? Like seriously I don't think Fegie could have choose anyone more Feminist SJW than her. Like out of all the actresses why her.

[Galactus]

And, we will be going from Robert Downy Jr/Ironman to this creature as the new face of the MCU. What was Kevin Feige thinking? I'm beginning to think it was with the other head.

The vast majority of people wont be paying attention to her twitter account.

Her politics isn't really all that different to RDJ's and Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo and most of the main MCU actors. If it's not a problem for them.

As something of aside why do you think Brie Larson will be the new face of Marvel and not Peter Parker or Black Panther or even Odinson if they make another Thor movie or someone else entirely? Is RDJ really the face of Marvel anyway? Sure Iron Man was the most popular but you could argue Captain America has kinda overtaken him and the whole point of the MCU anyway it's a big ensemble.

[Autbot_Benz]

welp

https://cosmicbook.news/captain-marvel-mcu-doubt-avengers-unhappy

A new rumor has landed online that echoes my own concerns about the Captain Marvel movie and Brie Larson, but this is claimed to be coming from on top -- as high as Disney CEO Bob Iger.

The rumor claims that the Avengers cast, or certain members of the Avengers cast, is unhappy with Brie Larson being the face of the MCU going forward. It's said one particular actress - hinted at it being Elizabeth Olsen - feels that they are getting pushed aside, that they are getting treated differently.

Film Gob on YouTube offers that Marvel is worried and that Disney CEO Bob Iger is unhappy with Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, as Feige is the only who has been backing Brie Larson all this time. Iger is said to be "unhappy with the direction of Captain Marvel," and also "there is now an uncertainty about Captain Marvel's future in the MCU." The YouTuber further claims that Brie Larson and Captain Marvel could get killed off earlier than Larson's Marvel contract due to the potential fallout.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The rumor claims that the Avengers cast, or certain members of the Avengers cast, is unhappy with Brie Larson being the face of the MCU going forward. It's said one particular actress - hinted at it being Elizabeth Olsen - feels that they are getting pushed aside, that they are getting treated differently.

I am definitely on Olsen's side in that. She's gotten about thirty minutes of development across all of her film appearances. I want a frickin' Scarlet Witch movie, and I want Magneto to be her damn father!

Film Gob on YouTube offers that Marvel is worried and that Disney CEO Bob Iger is unhappy with Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, as Feige is the only who has been backing Brie Larson all this time. Iger is said to be "unhappy with the direction of Captain Marvel," and also "there is now an uncertainty about Captain Marvel's future in the MCU." The YouTuber further claims that Brie Larson and Captain Marvel could get killed off earlier than Larson's Marvel contract due to the potential fallout.

Laughable and will never happen. I'd bet on Gabriel Iglesias being cast for Batman in Reeves' new film before I'd bet on that.

[Galactus]

^^^

That from a comicsgate pandering site that not long ago said that Disney was completely shutting down Marvel's publishing.

The above is made up ******** by some youtuber.

[Redeemer]

I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:

https://twitter.com/brielarson/status/916072035268333568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5E tweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E916072035268333568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboundingintocomics.com%2F201 8%2F11%2F14%2Fcaptain-marvel-actress-brie-larson-receives-backlash-over-instagram-tribute-to-stan-lee%2F

The horror! Stay safe, Brie!

Even though its off putting and does not paint her very well to say the least, but I have seen celebrities say far worse. Big whoop honestly.

Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.

I thought you left??? :lol:

I am going to be like CK and probably just go see it just bc it will play a part in endgame and its a super-hero movie. Me being a TMNT fan my standards are not that high :lol:

Don't judge me. :lol:

[Leo656]

I definitely can believe there's some resentment - Captain Marvel has been absent and not even mentioned (in-story) for ten years' worth of films, and NOW she's The Most Important Thing Ever and set to be the torch-bearer for the NEXT 5+ years worth of films, while everyone who already put in work to establish the franchise is either getting killed off or pushed into the background. And I can also believe that the producers are gobsmacked and probably at least a little bit nervous about the first batch of reviews being mixed. They obviously thought that they had "Wonder Woman On Steroids", and people surprisingly aren't reacting to it as expected.

One thing I will say, is that it's a good example of why working in an echo chamber isn't a good idea if you're producing commercial entertainment. Disney, as a rule, has always been the industry leader in "progressive" flag-waving, and clearly they figured that marketing this as an "important" movie and "anyone who isn't excited can Suck It" was the way to go. Now we're seeing that it's important to consider that not everyone shares the same values, or wants to be told they "have" to like something or else they're a _______. But in defense of Disney/Marvel, every single person in the room at those creative meetings thinks exactly the same, and they're openly dismissive of anyone who feels differently. Obviously, that goes a long way to explaining how tone-deaf the marketing - and their reaction to the fan backlash - has been. When you're sequestered away in an ivory tower with people who all agree with you, you lose touch with the "common rabble".

But I don't think they're going to hit the panic button. They're committed to their plan and have made a ton of noise about it; it would be a humiliating setback if they had to scramble, and pushed Captain Marvel to "Just Another Character" after all the hype about her "taking over" so to speak. Although if they HAD to pivot to a new direction, it would be super easy; they have X-Men waiting in the wings, and a straight comics-inspired reboot of that is going to be the single easiest project that they undertake over the next few years. If they seriously can't proceed with the original plan, they could simply let the Avengers simmer for a couple of years and have the X-Men lead the MCU. They'd have to rush it a bit, but again, it won't be too hard to get that off the ground if they're forced to scramble.

I don't think it'll come to that, though. I still expect this movie to make a lot of money, even if it's mostly from little girls and "casuals". They'll still stick to the original plan for the future of the MCU, but they'll probably not be so hostile with the marketing, and they'll probably have a stern talk with Brie Larson about her mouth as well. But I think the "sky is falling" stuff is overblown.

[sdp]

aTPhWGtr4vQ

:lol: I'm pretty sure half of the questions related to Captain Marvel were for the DC "Shazam" one and not the Marvel version but she plays it off as if Captain Marvel is important or people care.

[Galactus]

Thing is the idea that Elizabeth Olson specifically feels pushed out seems weak when she's never been an important character in these movies to begin with.

She may or may not be dissatisfied with her role in the MCU (although I've never gotten that sense from the actress) but it couldn't have started with casting of Brie Olson. Most of the MCU majors are bowing out anyway and only seem interesting in guest appearances in future movies so I doubt they feel pushed out either.

People tend to put way to much credence in what Feige says about captain Marvel. Of course he's going to hype her and the next wave as the second coming but honestly she isn't going to be the main character in Endgame or get the finishing blow against Thanos or whoever the bad guy ends up being.

The movie is still going to make a ton of money (more than were predicting a few weeks ago when everyone was smugly gloating about the possibility of under performing) and it's at 80 something RT score which is objectively good and a better score than some movies that are considered great...even previous MCU ones.

Incidentally the fact that reviewers are noticing flaws and it isn't at 100% on RT should actually do away with the stupid myth that all you have to do is make a movie "special" and the industry will hype it as the best thing ever. It wont because they are committed to the lie but it should.

Not that this matters. The general audience tends to be more forgiving about movies than critics whose job it is to be critical and idiots on youtube ranting about how Disney wants to kill straight white men. It will make a ton of money and will generally be liked and they'll go see Endgame.

Even if theoretically people walked up the aisle unimpressed they'd just retool the character. I personally have a soft spot for the Kenneth Branaugh Thor movie but it's fair to say it took them until Ragnarok to give us a good Thor movie. If the critics are correct none of the flaws are numerous or big enough that they couldn't be ironed out in the sequel or would require Ragnarok levels of change.

I'm pretty sure half of the questions related to Captain Marvel were for the DC "Shazam" one and not the Marvel version but she plays it off as if Captain Marvel is important or people care.

I don't know about that. Not to be mean but at the moment there doesn't seem to be that much interest in Shazam which is a shame because it looks okay and David Sandberg has been a class act about people trying to hijack his movie to attack this one.

[sdp]

I don't know about that. Not to be mean but at the moment there doesn't seem to be that much interest in Shazam which is a shame because it looks okay and David Sandberg has been a class act about people trying to hijack his movie to attack this one.

I'm not talking about the Shazam movie, they gave her some google questions when you type "Captain Marvel" and some of the questions are clearly about DCs Captain Maravel (Shazam) since its asking if he can beat superman which is a fight people love to see and has been done many times, the only question that is clearly meant for Marvel's Captain Marvel is the one complaining about her not having the black costume.

[Autbot_Benz]

U.S. Congressional Candidate Calls for Government Legislation in Response to Internet Trolls Attacking ‘Captain Marvel’


padV3jz4Ai4Jesus Christ

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/08/captain-marvel-online-backlash-internet-trolls-brianna-wu-government-legislation-technology/

WTF

[Papenbrook]

Yes (https://mobile.twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1103809051480260608), It will certainly become a history in the making. (https://mobile.twitter.com/FilmClickbait/status/1103812348546957313?p=v) :wink:

Woman, Ooouuuttt!!!

[Andrew NDB]

Yes (https://mobile.twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1103809051480260608), It will certainly become a history in the making. (https://mobile.twitter.com/FilmClickbait/status/1103812348546957313?p=v) :wink:

Woman, Ooouuuttt!!!

Putting it on a maximum number of screens does not denote that people will actually fill them. It only denotes that the studio/TPTB really, really wants it out there.

[Refractive Reflections]

(Looks like the meme I posted earlier, is already on this thread. :lol:)

I really can't believe the statements she's making about "sexism". Yeesh, too bad she can't actually use her voice toward a country that actually has legalized sexism (i.e. Saudi Arabia), but I'm sure that would affect the box office sales in the Middle East.

[Papenbrook]

Putting it on a maximum number of screens does not denote that people will actually fill them. It only denotes that the studio/TPTB really, really wants it out there.

... and, hundreds of millions of people would want to see this film.

It will gross a mass amount of money, and, unlike BvS, it will have the legs to leap past other, low-fare flicks.

It will instantly make back it's budget in its first week.

[Autbot_Benz]

Nothing in Captain Marvel will beat the awesome No Man's Land sequence from Wonder Woman

https://i.imgur.com/pgwGiZE.gif

[ZariusTwo]

I personally have a soft spot for the Kenneth Branaugh Thor movie but it's fair to say it took them until Ragnarok to give us a good Thor movie.

Ragnarok is terrible.

[Andrew NDB]

Ragnarok is terrible.

It's absolutely the movie it wants to be and I wouldn't call it terrible on its own right. Unfortunately, it's pretty horrible as Thor 3. Everything, every sideplot, every relationship that was set up in 1 and 2 was thrown away to make room for a camp romp.

[ZariusTwo]

I don't know about that. Not to be mean but at the moment there doesn't seem to be that much interest in Shazam.

The early reviews indicate otherwise. Looks like DC have a big hit on it's way

https://www.nme.com/news/film/damn-near-perfect-the-first-reactions-to-shazam-are-in-2459029

[drgon78]

Thor Ragnarok is the closest thing to a live action version of a Saturday morning cartoon from my childhood.:lol: So of course I enjoyed it, would have better if it was He-Man, Thundercats, etc.

[neatoman]

By the way, the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes... Wow. Not only is it the lowest audience rating for an MCU movie to date, it's the first one to get the toppled pop corn bucket. It's at 32% right now and just came out.

[Papenbrook]

It's getting bombed on Metacritic too ( The User Review, when averaged out, present an overall average score. The User Rating, however, oh boy ... )

It seems that trolls are obsessed with this particular film.

[Vegita-San]

By the way, the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes... Wow. Not only is it the lowest audience rating for an MCU movie to date, it's the first one to get the toppled pop corn bucket. It's at 32% right now and just came out.

last I saw it was at 50%. how did it get to 32 so fast?

It'll be interesting to see second week box office drop.

[Papenbrook]

last I saw it was at 50%. how did it get to 32 so fast?

It'll be interesting to see second week box office drop.

By the power of sexist trolls ...

Captain Marvel will never experience a drop; it will spring forward forever.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

By the power of sexist trolls ...

Captain Marvel will never experience a drop; it will spring forward forever.

I'm sure the porn parody that comes out afterwards will be amazing!

[ZariusTwo]

Just saw it. It's awful.

The Skrulls having accents is sort of explained by the twist with Mar-Vel hiding them out in a station above Earth and equipped with things from the planet like arcade games, presumably movies too, so I didn't mind that. This was such a waste of Samuel L Jackson anbd Gregg was just reduced to fleeting cameos. There were virtually no stakes the entire film. Everything was too cosy and perfect. Pure Hallmark cheese.

[Redeemer]

... and, hundreds of millions of people would want to see this film.

It will gross a mass amount of money, and, unlike BvS, it will have the legs to leap past other, low-fare flicks.

It will instantly make back it's budget in its first week.

I'm pretty sure Batman v Super-man was a financial success despite it being mediocre/bad.

By the way, the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes... Wow. Not only is it the lowest audience rating for an MCU movie to date, it's the first one to get the toppled pop corn bucket. It's at 32% right now and just came out.

I am shocked at that score. I find it really hard to believe that the movie is this bad. I suspect that people just don't like Captain Marvel as a fictional character, I doubt the movie is as bad as that score indicates bc that like fantastic 4 bad. I am also betting that Brie Larson being controversial right now is driving down the score a bit too.

Wow checked out the score and it is a measly 34%. The comments/rating indicate that some people are giving 5 stars just to spite those who don't like. I am sure the same can be said for the critics who give it 1 star.

This movie looks like it is going to be a financial success. So essentially this movie is going to be the Batman v Superman of the MCU

[Allio]

the movie was okay overall, started off decent and then found a good milddle (thanks to support cast) but after Carol got her powers the film fell apart as the tension was no longer there.

[Andrew NDB]

"Why would we give money to someone that hates us?"

https://www.ccn.com/captain-marvel-faces-boycott-backlash-over-brie-larsons-man-hating