Brie Larson the frontrunner for Captain Marvel [Archive] - Page 3

Leo656

03-08-2019, 01:55 PM

I'm pretty sure Batman v Super-man was a financial success despite it being mediocre/bad.

This movie looks like it is going to be a financial success. So essentially this movie is going to be the Batman v Superman of the MCU

It was one of the Top 20 Highest-Selling Blu-Rays of all time upon its physical release, and even now (last I bothered to check) was still in the Top 50. Which as I've pointed out, illustrates that lots of people liked it just fine, they just don't like to talk about it out loud because they don't care for being yelled at or called names.

I do agree that Captain Marvel should go on to make a lot of money in spite of the mixed reviews. People don't skip Marvel movies, and they only pay attention to critics when they agree with them, otherwise "they're all idiots". But in that regard, yes, it's similar to BvS in that people will go see it regardless of reviews, and they'll probably still buy the disc as well.

As I've said before, I just find it very strange that this is the first MCU movie that a lot of people actually noticed wasn't very good, because they've done plenty that weren't very good. It's kind of unfortunate, because any genuine criticism is being shouted down amidst the "woman-hating trolls" defense, when in truth, it just sounds like they whiffed.

It would be very nice if people could set politics aside when discussing these things. BUT, to be fair, Disney/Marvel set themselves up for it by openly positioning this film as a political statement in the first place. Wonder Woman COULD have been political, or man-bashing, but it wasn't. It was an extremely even-handed film that wasn't preachy nor condescending, and people liked it. This stuff really shouldn't be so difficult. But as we've seen with "The Last Jedi" and now this movie, if you stick your neck out, someone may take a swipe and you may need to suffer the consequences.

I still expect it to do fine, though. It would just be nice if people were allowed to discuss it without all the political finger-pointing and assumption of ulterior motives.

Andrew NDB

03-08-2019, 02:03 PM

I skimmed over a... version of the movie and can confirm the "I'm Just a Girl" fight scene.

neatoman

03-08-2019, 02:06 PM

I skimmed over a... version of the movie and can confirm the "I'm Just a Girl" fight scene.

I would recommend "a version" over this movie if you actually want to see it, because it isn't really worth it otherwise.

Leo656

03-08-2019, 02:08 PM

I don't think that scene was meant to be a secret, it was reported on in many of the reviews.

Part of why I dislike Marvel movies is that their "humor" isn't just "on the nose", they smash you square in the face with a bat.

Storm Eagle

03-08-2019, 02:25 PM

I don't see why guys shouldn't like, it's more a blokes film than one for girls and it has blokes in it.

Of course. I was just thinking about how there was nonsense spouted out about how guys won't like it since it's "not for them". I might enjoy it too, although there are even women who didn't.

ZariusTwo

03-08-2019, 02:32 PM

Of course. I was just thinking about how there was nonsense spouted out about how guys won't like it since it's "not for them". I might enjoy it too, although there are even women who didn't.

Yeah, total nonsense born out of insecurity. Anyone reading Marvel's intent is to be as noninclusive as possible is really looking to tether their cause to the film without actually checking it out.

Like I said, the usual boys action film with females front and centre. Up to you if you think that's a deal breaker.

Allio

03-08-2019, 02:49 PM

I don't see why guys shouldn't like, it's more a blokes film than one for girls and it has blokes in it.

I'd hardly call it a blokes film as it is just a film for Cyberpunk lover, granted I suppose you get the obligated "Blokes" because there really hasn't been a "Cyberpunk for girls"

ZariusTwo

03-08-2019, 02:53 PM

I'd hardly call it a blokes film as it is just a film for Cyberpunk lover, granted I suppose you get the obligated "Blokes" because there really hasn't been a "Cyberpunk for girls"

Are you talking about Alita? Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Xav

03-08-2019, 03:32 PM

'Captain Marvel': Rotten Tomatoes Purges Over 50,000 Reviews After Review Bombing (https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/08/captain-marvel-review-bombed-hard-rotten-tomatoes-opening/)

Vegita-San

03-08-2019, 03:35 PM

'Captain Marvel': Rotten Tomatoes Purges Over 50,000 Reviews After Review Bombing (https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/08/captain-marvel-review-bombed-hard-rotten-tomatoes-opening/)

is it really review bombing, or are people just not happy with this movie?

I see that positive spam bots are fine :)

Candy Kappa

03-08-2019, 04:01 PM

is it really review bombing, or are people just not happy with this movie?

I see that positive spam bots are fine :)

If the mods here can check the IP address for Goku's 1823738237th account, I'm sure RT can discern bots from people

Storm Eagle

03-08-2019, 04:15 PM

Yeah, total nonsense born out of insecurity. Anyone reading Marvel's intent is to be as noninclusive as possible is really looking to tether their cause to the film without actually checking it out.

Like I said, the usual boys action film with females front and centre. Up to you if you think that's a deal breaker.

If it were a dealbreaker for me, I wouldn't bother checking it out, and I've already said that I'm game.

I've even seen women express their displeasure, since they also believe that a female protagonist can just do their thing without being condescending towards males. They don't believe in achieving female empowerment by such means, and don't think they need a female protagonist to make them feel validated, for they can relate to a character in certain ways even if it's a guy.

Leo656

03-08-2019, 04:30 PM

I've even seen women express their displeasure, since they also believe that a female protagonist can just do their thing without being condescending towards males.

I guess they must have watched Wonder Woman. :)

My wife and I were just last night discussing how that movie was a lot more even-handed than it had any right to be. I'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with how it was received.

Sumac

03-08-2019, 04:33 PM

Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.
So what will happen if people on this forum won't leave her alone? :roll:

By the power of sexist trolls ...

Captain Marvel will never experience a drop; it will spring forward forever.
Everyone are sexist trolls!!
No exception!! :lol:

Prowler

03-08-2019, 04:59 PM

Nobody's making fun of Britney!

Haha came in to say this.

Whatever happened to the guy from that video, anyway?

Leo656

03-08-2019, 05:08 PM

He is now a She, and last I heard was still a loony-tune.

Galactus

03-08-2019, 09:51 PM

The early reviews indicate otherwise. Looks like DC have a big hit on it's way

https://www.nme.com/news/film/damn-near-perfect-the-first-reactions-to-shazam-are-in-2459029

I know it's being very well received by these early screenings but then so was Captain Marvel.

I actually want Shazam to do well but I'm not seeing the same amount of interest from the general public. Yeah that's because Captain Marvel is part of a popular cinematic universe that has became a huge machine of it's own and Shazam is...not but that's where we are.

I do agree that Captain Marvel should go on to make a lot of money in spite of the mixed reviews. People don't skip Marvel movies, and they only pay attention to critics when they agree with them, otherwise "they're all idiots". But in that regard, yes, it's similar to BvS in that people will go see it regardless of reviews, and they'll probably still buy the disc as well.

As I've said before, I just find it very strange that this is the first MCU movie that a lot of people actually noticed wasn't very good, because they've done plenty that weren't very good. It's kind of unfortunate, because any genuine criticism is being shouted down amidst the "woman-hating trolls" defense, when in truth, it just sounds like they whiffed.

It would be very nice if people could set politics aside when discussing these things. BUT, to be fair, Disney/Marvel set themselves up for it by openly positioning this film as a political statement in the first place. Wonder Woman COULD have been political, or man-bashing, but it wasn't. It was an extremely even-handed film that wasn't preachy nor condescending, and people liked it. This stuff really shouldn't be so difficult. But as we've seen with "The Last Jedi" and now this movie, if you stick your neck out, someone may take a swipe and you may need to suffer the consequences.

I still expect it to do fine, though. It would just be nice if people were allowed to discuss it without all the political finger-pointing and assumption of ulterior motives.

It's not really similar to Batman v Superman. That movie starred a number of cultural icons who many people have waited their entire lives to not only see together on film but do the exact things the movie had them doing. People were always going to turn out for that no matter how bad the reviews were or how bad the movie itself looked.

By contrast both Carol Danvers and Marvel's own Captain Marvel brand has had a small but cult following among the niche audience of comic book readers. Even with Marvel's recent knack for taking lesser known characters and making them modern icons there's a reason why the people against this movie on ideological grounds took the tactic of saying this would be Marvel's first commercial failure and bring down the whole MCU.

I pointed out on another thread that a while ago that no matter how much money the movie made detractors would spin the narrative it wasn't enough but now the kind of money it looks likely to make is going to make that hard to argue they've hit on using reviews which is bull****. This is getting a lot of objectively good reviews. The fact that it's not getting 100% glowing praise for being some flawless masterpiece and people using that to attack it is disingenuous.

If it seems strange to you that reviewers are pointing out out flaws in a Marvel movie they otherwise think is good I don't think you've been paying attention. That's basically how all Marvel movies review go down, the particularly high ceiling only started in Phase 3.

The idea that flaws in MCU movies don't get pointed out is born out this conspiracy thinking that either reviewers are all paid Disney shills or all have a social justice agenda to push Marvel as they are seen being pro-diversity even though the movies haven't been that good in that regard up until recently. Captain Marvel has been a lightning rod for this since it was announced before any casting or marketing had happened. Not that any of this matters to the regular public as far as I can see tonight reactions have been very positive.

snake

03-08-2019, 10:46 PM

Well, I just saw it. It's okay.

It's very unpolished, and doesn't really "feel" like an MCU movie. The film feels like a random draft of the script, except it's a fully realized production. There's so much that they could've done with the story, and I'm just like- "This is what they went with?". S.H.I.E.L.D never had contact with extraterrestrials, or even knew of them before? Okay? Why does this have to take place on Earth? Why is the Kree-Skrull war explained so poorly to the point where neither side feels sympathetic or unsympathetic? It's a very meh story overall, but I guess it gets the job done- introduce Captain Marvel. Sadly, it fails at giving her character, or making her remotely likeable. This is the biggest problem with the film- Captain Marvel herself.

Carol Danvers as a character is supposed to be a bitch. That's fine, she's like that in the comics too. I never feel like I'm watching Carol Danvers, though. I feel like I'm watching a bored Brie Larson completely fail to land jokes. Jesus Christ, she's awful. Make her a bitch, that's at least a f*cking character. You never get anything from her in this. It's like she's autistic or something in some of these scenes. The f*cking child actors who played Carol in the flashback scenes have more conviction and ambition then Brie. Her charisma vacuum sucks in everyone around her, with Samuel L. Jackson just barely managing to avoid the black hole that is Brie Larson's resting bored face.

It's okay though. It's not a crazy feminist movie like the internet expected- it's just boring. Bottom-tier Marvel movie. I liked it? It's not an abomination like Suicide Squad, but it's not that great either. See it, maybe? I liked it.

Papenbrook

03-08-2019, 11:19 PM

Did they really play "Just A Girl" during the fight scene?

How was it?

Allio

03-08-2019, 11:44 PM

Fight scene had no tensiion. As soon as Marvel got her powers she went into god mode and the entire third act slogged.

Andrew NDB

03-08-2019, 11:44 PM

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

sdp

03-08-2019, 11:50 PM

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f89881acd0b30049a29af8bed01846df/tenor.gif

oldmanwinters

03-08-2019, 11:54 PM

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

Lesser pay for equal work?

Galactus

03-09-2019, 12:01 AM

I have no idea about Captain Marvel, really. Does she have any weaknesses? Anything?

Her current powers in the comics are similar to the X-Men's Bishop. She can absorb various forms of energy to utilize her strength, flight and energy blasts etc. How strong her powers are depends on how much energy she has stored up. She's had trouble absorbing magic energy.

However the movie might give her a slightly different powers based on some slight spoilers I've read...

the movie version gets her powers from the Tesseract/space stone so her powers might work differently

Xav

03-09-2019, 12:43 AM

YouTube fought Brie Larson trolls by changing its search algorithms (https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/8/18255265/brie-larson-youtube-captain-marvel-mcu-algorithm-review-bomb-trolls)

Papenbrook

03-09-2019, 12:48 AM

Fight scene had no tensiion. As soon as Marvel got her powers she went into god mode and the entire third act slogged.

... umm, alrighty then ...

ZariusTwo

03-09-2019, 01:46 AM

his is getting a lot of objectively good reviews.

The reviews are objectively mixed. The only high percentages are coming from comic book sites and fanboys that like pretty much everything Marvel churns out, it's brand loyalty, not objectivity.

Storm Eagle

03-09-2019, 02:09 AM

I guess they must have watched Wonder Woman. :)

And Alita.

Andrew NDB

03-09-2019, 02:14 AM

Lesser pay for equal work?

Posts like these make me wish there was the Like button. Not enough to comment on, but enough to say "Yes!"

Ninjinister

03-09-2019, 02:33 AM

The reviews are objectively mixed. The only high percentages are coming from comic book sites and fanboys that like pretty much everything Marvel churns out, it's brand loyalty, not objectivity.

Says the guy who wouldn't know objectivity if it had a physical form which was currently biting his ass.

snake

03-09-2019, 06:02 AM

I think I physically cringed when Come as You Are started playing for no reason.

ZariusTwo

03-09-2019, 07:08 AM

Says the guy who wouldn't know objectivity if it had a physical form which was currently biting his ass.

Micheal and I settled out of court.

And it's 2019, not 2003, grow up, take your internet tough guy/playground insults and shove them, all you're doing is proving my point

Leo656

03-09-2019, 10:00 AM

Lesser pay for equal work?

That was wonderful.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-09-2019, 12:40 PM

We are about to see it, so I'll be back in a bit to talk about my thoughts. Super stoked for this, since she us where my user name came from, and my fave Marvel heroine!

ZariusTwo

03-09-2019, 02:22 PM

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Autbot_Benz

03-09-2019, 06:51 PM

I know it probably won't happen in Endgame but I hope Thanos Bitchslaps Captain Marvel so hard she is sent through buildings like in Dragonball Z :lol:

drgon78

03-09-2019, 08:27 PM

I would love something like that to happen Autbot_Benz.

Jester

03-09-2019, 08:35 PM

Turo602

03-09-2019, 09:43 PM

lol
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TigerClaw

03-09-2019, 10:12 PM

Saw it today. It was pretty good. Goose is the real MVP of the movie.

snake

03-09-2019, 11:46 PM

Just read the wikipedia article on the 2nd (and 1st female) Captain Marvel, flippin Monica Rambeau, who is a kid in this movie. Why is she not as well know as Carol? She seems like an interesting character

Monica is pretty well known to comic fans. I remember her more than the other Captain Marvels (besides Kamela).

Papenbrook

03-09-2019, 11:58 PM

Does anyone have a grasp on Capt. Marv's current box-fice numbers?

Redeemer

03-10-2019, 12:04 AM

Does anyone have a grasp on Capt. Marv's current box-fice numbers?

Yeah its doing really well despite the reviews.

150 MILLION in North America.

Andrew NDB

03-10-2019, 01:22 AM

Saw "Captain Marvel." Pretty good, not great. A lot of... interesting choices with regard to how they told the story (it's not linear, exactly). All of the characters had a good amount to do, even Sam Jackson. Probably 80% of the jokes fell flat, though I'm not quite sure if it's because they just plain weren't funny or if it was because of Brie Larson's fairly dry delivery. It's really impressive the amount of de-aging work done here... I don't think there's been a movie yet where it's there from beginning to end like this. The 3D was also particularly impressive. Always good (and rare!) to come out of a 3D movie and say, "That was worth it!" Because you never know. I remember watching "Tron: Legacy" expecting it to be tailor made for 3D and the 3D was lame as all can be.

I agree that anyone worried about it being a super feminist agenda thing shouldn't worry. I also appreciated that while there was jokes (if again, only about 20% landed... the theater I was in was packed but it was dead silent for the other 80%) the movie itself wasn't trying to be jokey. If "Thor: Ragnarok" is a 10 on the jokey/campy side of things and "Guardians of the Galaxy" is like an 8... "Captain Marvel" is like a 4 or a 3. And that's good.

I would agree with others that it's hard to worry too much about her when...

... she unlocks her full powers. Apparently, yeah, she is full-on God Mode... invulnerable with powerful arm blasts and flight able to punch through the hulls of ships, yet she seems to wince with pain when a normal, non-powered person hits her? And she still needs her mask to breathe/survive in space... but only sometimes? I'm not sure what to make of it, but I know that nothing was really presented at the end to make us concerned for her well-being. She just slices up the bad guy fleet with ease and that's that.

An interesting -- very strange? -- choice to make the Skrulls into sympathetic refugees when what little I know of them in everything else, they're usually anything but. That makes me think that the next time we see them, they'll be the opposite... and will have had 25 years (in our present) to develop plans to prevent what happened to them from happening ever again ("Secret Invasion" or whatever shape it will take).

Between Fury, Coulson, and Ronan I was worried we might have been misled as to how much we'd get to see any of them in the movie (except maybe Fury, I remember seeing an article affirming he'd be in the whole movie). Lots of Fury, maybe... a minute or two of combined footage of Coulson, and what barely registers as a cameo for Ronan -- but it's effective.

Papenbrook

03-10-2019, 03:03 PM

Captain Marvel DEFEATED the trolls!!!! (https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/10/captain-marvel-rakes-in-455-million-in-worldwide-weekend-haul/)

Candy Kappa

03-10-2019, 03:08 PM

Captain Marvel DEFEATED the trolls!!!! (https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/10/captain-marvel-rakes-in-455-million-in-worldwide-weekend-haul/)

They're called Skrulls :P

neatoman

03-10-2019, 03:29 PM

Captain Marvel DEFEATED the trolls!!!! (https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/10/captain-marvel-rakes-in-455-million-in-worldwide-weekend-haul/)

So I guess this means Marvel Studios learns they can get away with not trying to make decent movies anymore?

Jester

03-10-2019, 03:36 PM

Autbot_Benz

03-10-2019, 03:39 PM

ZariusTwo

03-10-2019, 03:47 PM

So I guess this means Marvel Studios learns they can get away with not trying to make decent movies anymore?

They made decent movies to begin with?

(I'm only half-joking)

Leo656

03-10-2019, 07:11 PM

They made decent movies to begin with?

(I'm only half-joking)

I like a few of 'em. I liked the first Iron Man, Captain America and Avengers movies okay. I saw a lot of potential but I wasn't thrilled with the follow-up when everything became a quip-fest with no stakes. After Age of Ultron I just see them on DVR if I'm interested, but too many of them are similar.
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Jester mentioned the Supergirl movie, and frankly I'm shocked that it still has such a poor reputation. It certainly isn't very good, but it's extremely goofy and cheesy. I figured that by now people who like that kind of thing would have embraced it, since that kind of adaptation has become fashionable.

I own it, but it's a slog. :lol: Could've been alright. They really didn't try very hard but the pieces were there.

ranger_scout

03-10-2019, 08:15 PM

I saw the film last night and I thought it was pretty good. I don't think it was the strongest chapter in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but it was still a solid one. I liked that this was a film set in the 90's since my entire childhood took place during that decade.

Since I am not avid comic-book reader I was not one of the people who the people who was surprised to find out that the Skrulls would be the good guys. I might have seen them once in the 1967 Fantastic Four cartoon series, but that was so long ago that I just didn't remember them.

raph27

03-11-2019, 12:05 AM

thankfully someone uploaded the Stan Lee Tribute to youtube. Its the Marvel 10 years logo but filled with all of Stan's Cameos. Don't worry Captain Marvel will be forgotten like dust once Endgame Month comes out that will be the talk of the town.

Just like everyone forgot about Black Panther after Infinity War?

I don't think it's too overblown about this being the first female MCU movie. As you said, the other female-led movies have either been fairly bad or pretty obscure. The Supergirl movie, in particular, is never mentioned outside of niche circles.

As for the movie:
What was the final scene with Ronan supposed to imply? When he said he was going to come back for her, presumably to use as a weapon? Was that sequel setup or is that something referencing a storyline in the comics?

Overall I liked the film, though it could have been better. I liked Brie as Danvers a lot, though I will admit she didn't have a very fleshed out character arc. Young Nick Fury was great the whole way through, along with just enough bits of Coulson to not feel overdone but still fun to see him again. Yon-Rogg was my favorite new character of the bunch honestly. My biggest disappointments are 1) the climax seemed half-baked, and 2) Ronan was way underused from what I was expecting.

Autbot_Benz

03-11-2019, 01:16 AM

I love when people say on twitter. Why don't people get mad at Mark Ruffalo and Chris Evans they have the same Political stance as Brie.

Simple Mark Ruffalo and Chris Evans don't use their MCU Press Junkets to push their political agendas like Brie did.

Papenbrook

03-11-2019, 02:37 AM

I know it probably won't happen in Endgame but I hope Thanos Bitchslaps Captain Marvel so hard she is sent through buildings like in Dragonball Z :lol:

.... are you serial?

Saw it today. It was pretty good. Goose is the real MVP of the movie.

Lol, what?! :lol:

Andrew NDB

03-11-2019, 03:15 AM

Am I alone in finding the "1st MCU movie to have a female headliner" a bit overdone? Sure, it's true, but there are female led superheroe movies, though to be fair, none but Wonder Woman were actually any good (looking at you Supergirl, Electra, and Catwoman.)

If anything, it seems an embarrassing thing to tout. "MCU 10 Years (11 now)... and we just now did a female-led movie! And it's none of the potential female leads we've introduced to you in the past 10 years!"

I would think they'd want to just avoid that angle altogether.

TigerClaw

03-11-2019, 05:42 AM

Lol, what?! :lol:
If you see it. You know what i mean.

Allio

03-11-2019, 05:54 AM

Am I alone in finding the "1st MCU movie to have a female headliner" a bit overdone? Sure, it's true, but there are female led superheroe movies, though to be fair, none but Wonder Woman were actually any good (looking at you Supergirl, Electra, and Catwoman.)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1700e5974bc55c662fea0a886c3afd88/tumblr_po7763xb7k1tigjc8o1_500.png

Comicbook fans when seeing Captain Marvel: FINALLY, FEMALE REPRESENTATION!

Anime/Manga/Sci-fi/Horror/many other genres of entertainment with lists of strong female representation: Took you long enough, peasant.

Jester

03-11-2019, 10:16 AM

If anything, it seems an embarrassing thing to tout. "MCU 10 Years (11 now)... and we just now did a female-led movie! And it's none of the potential female leads we've introduced to you in the past 10 years!"

I would think they'd want to just avoid that angle altogether.
That never really occurred to me either. Good point.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-11-2019, 10:33 AM

That never really occurred to me either. Good point.

Same.

Marvel does a female-led CBM! No, not Black Widow. No, not Wasp. No, not Scarlet Witch.

...

If those are the only interesting main female characters they've even introduced in 10 years, that's a little sad.

Jester

03-11-2019, 10:56 AM

oldmanwinters

03-11-2019, 11:03 AM

Sif?

I was never really sure what to think after the end of Ragnarok and the beginning of Infinity War, but is Sif among the dead Asgardians? There can't be many left besides Thor at this point.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-11-2019, 11:35 AM

Sif? Oh...Gamora, Nebula, and Mantis.

They're the only female Avengers, but theres also Peggy Carter (she got a show...but no movie). Many of the other women are side characters or love interests. Pepper, Jane Foster and Darcy, Hill and Sharon Carter...any others?

Marvel's TV is probably better with May, Quake, Simmons, Mockingbird, Jessica Jones, Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, Karen Page...

Okay, I did totally blank on the female Guardians. :tlol:

I was never really sure what to think after the end of Ragnarok and the beginning of Infinity War, but is Sif among the dead Asgardians? There can't be many left besides Thor at this point.

I've seen a rumor that Sif could get a show on Disney+ or whatever, but I haven't been able to find that rumor again, unfortunately... should've bookmarked the article.

Jester

03-11-2019, 12:37 PM

I've heard that about the Sif series also I think they were also planning a Loki and Scarlet witch series if I'm not mistaken.

Oh and Adam according to feige Sif be dead.

oldmanwinters

03-11-2019, 12:51 PM

Oh and Adam according to feige Sif be dead.

Killed off camera is the worst way to go!

"Sif was among the many who died when Thanos completed the Infinity Gauntlet and wiped out half the life in the universe."
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Sif
https://i.imgur.com/fKWJ28g.jpg

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-11-2019, 12:54 PM

I've heard that about the Sif series also I think they were also planning a Loki and Scarlet witch series if I'm not mistaken.

Oh and Adam according to feige Sif be dead.

I'm pretty sure the Loki and Scarlet Witch series are actually confirmed, not just rumored.

Man, that sucks...

Killed off camera is the worst way to go!

At least Thor's Three Stooges got to die on camera. Waste of a talented actress and a character with a ton of potential.

But nah, let's keep Padme in those movies talking about sea bass.

oldmanwinters

03-11-2019, 12:58 PM

At least Thor's Three Stooges got to die on camera. Waste of a talented actress and a character with a ton of potential.

At this point, characters eliminated through the Thanos finger snap have a far better chance of getting second life than anyone killed through more traditional means like the Stooges Three.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-11-2019, 01:08 PM

At this point, characters eliminated through the Thanos finger snap have a far better chance of getting second life than anyone killed through more traditional means like the Stooges Three.

Still my favorite part of Thor 3. They dead. :tlol:

Jester

03-11-2019, 01:25 PM

Still my favorite part of Thor 3. They dead. :tlol:

This is mine:
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Autbot_Benz

03-11-2019, 02:17 PM

They should change the name of the movie from Captain Marvel to Captain Mehvel

Andrew NDB

03-11-2019, 06:39 PM

Has anyone heard the "Fury theory"?

In Captain Marvel he tells Captain Marvel something unique to him. He says he never eats diagonally cut toast.

Apparently he ate diagonally cut toast in Age of Ultron. Thus maybe is a Skrull.

Leo656

03-11-2019, 07:13 PM

I can see that being the kind of thing that was a simple continuity error, BUT, now that people notice it, may very well be woven into the story so they can pretend that it was always planned.

I've lost count of all the stuff like that they've done, but thankfully there are literally dozens of articles out there that keep track of it all. :trazz: To be fair, the producers have usually been pretty candid about going "Yeah, that was a goof, BUT, it worked out in the end" when called upon about these sorts of things. It would be annoying if they insisted that every single "oops" was indeed just part of the larger scheme from the beginning, rather than something they later retrofitted to make sense.

So yeah, it probably meant nothing BUT now it'll probably mean something.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-11-2019, 08:55 PM

Weeeeell, we DO have a possible tie-in to Secret Invasion, due to

Carol helping the Skrulls find a new homeworld after the Kree destroyed theirs. Their Queen finds a prophecy that she thinks leads them to Earth as a new home.
The Skrull Queen could very well be Talos's little girl, since the movie takes place 25 years before the rest of the MCU.

Ok, so my thoughts- as a fan of the character and Marvel heroes in general, I thoroughly enjoyed it. For all the detractors who claimed Brie didn't show enough emotion? Actually, her plot arc actually revolved around her doing exactly the opposite, letting her emotions take over and losing control. So she was trying to keep them in check- and mostly failing. Saw her smile, laugh, and get angry plenty of times. So much for that bs.

Ok so.... I have a theory now. It involves Goose and
the Tesseract. So we know SHIELD had it since Howard Stark found it at the bottom of the ocean while looking for Cap's plane. But then somehow Lawson had it aboard her laboratory ship. But Project PEGASUS was housed in the very same facility Loki later infiltrated, so it is likely she and Stark knew each other. Also, there was an arc reactor aboard her ship- evidence they worked together at some point. My thinking is that she borrowed it, or was keeping it safe, up until the Kree found out about her engine and tried to take the piwer source. Since she was helping the Skrulls, she had to keep it away from them, and had Carol destroy the engine, which caused her powers. Enter the cat. He was loose in the facility, probably because Lawson beought him with her. He attatched to Carol, and later to Fury. And he ate the Tesseract during the events of the movie. But then later (we don't know when, but it was the last end credit scene, AFTER the one with the Avengers scanning the death toll from the Snap, and it happened to be in Fury's strangely EMPTY office) he hocks it back up. And given that we don't know how long Flerkens live, it is possible that he did it after the Snap. So it could have been in his stomach the whole time, in temporal paradox with everything else that happened. What if Strange used the Time stone to snag it at some point in the past, and send it to the 1990's to get swallowed by the cat? Interesting trivia about flerkens, their stomachs are pocket dimensions in SPACE and TIME. That's why they can swallow such large objects whole. It would have protected the stone until it could be used again to help undo what Thanos did.

Andrew NDB

03-12-2019, 12:53 PM

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neatoman

03-12-2019, 04:42 PM

Might be a good idea to bring this up. Remember how Batman vs Superman was a huge hit but the second week drop was 70%, with the first monday drop being 55%?

Well Captain Marvel has a first Monday drop of 71%. Don't get me wrong Batman vs Superman was still a big hit and Captain Marvel has already made a profit, it's just that the latter made half it's domestic box office in one weekend. It's kind of like if Infinity War or Black Panther is a bonfire, then BVS is a fireworks show. It's not exactly a dissappointment but it is a rather quick success that might not be as desired.

If Captain Marvel follows in BVS footsteps, then it could risk a 90% second weekend drop (though I consider that a worst case scenario, 90% would be cartoonishly bad).

Leo656

03-12-2019, 04:46 PM

Nah.

People forget how large the built-in audience for MCU films really is. It'll keep racking up the numbers, no sweat.

Andrew NDB

03-12-2019, 04:50 PM

Monday drops are pretty meaningless.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-12-2019, 11:03 PM

Spring break also starts this week in a lot of places, so numbers for the week may still be decent.

Papenbrook

03-13-2019, 11:22 AM

Andrew NDB

03-13-2019, 11:45 AM

That doesn't mean anything. The movie still made back it's budget ( marketing incl. )

*peeks at B.O.* At the moment it looks like it has just now broke even.

Papenbrook

03-13-2019, 11:54 AM

*peeks at B.O.* At the moment it looks like it has just now broke even.

How did you analyze its break-even point?

Andrew NDB

03-13-2019, 12:01 PM

How did you analyze its break-even point?

152 million production budget. At least 100 million marketing budget. That's 252 million that's needed to be made up.

179 domestic off of weekend #1, that's about 120 million profit after the theaters' cut, give or take (probably less). It made 325 million overseas, so the studio only gets 25% of that... that's 81 million.

That's a profit of 201 million against a cost of 252. But guaranteed the 2nd weekend and onward will be gangbusters, at this rate.

Shinigami

03-13-2019, 02:08 PM

Papenbrook

03-13-2019, 02:13 PM

152 million production budget. At least 100 million marketing budget. That's 252 million that's needed to be made up.

179 domestic off of weekend #1, that's about 120 million profit after the theaters' cut, give or take (probably less). It made 325 million overseas, so the studio only gets 25% of that... that's 81 million.

That's a profit of 201 million against a cost of 252. But guaranteed the 2nd weekend and onward will be gangbusters, at this rate.

I hope it is. :)

raph27

03-13-2019, 03:05 PM

He in fact does NOT eat diagonal toast. He picks up a rectangle.

Yeah, but he cuts it diagonally. Why not just cut it in half straight down then?

Andrew NDB

03-13-2019, 04:18 PM

"Captain Marvel takes a jab at sexist True Lies movie."

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/captain-marvel-true-lies-blockbuster-james-cameron.html

I didn't even realize that was a jab. Maybe it was.

Warhorse

03-13-2019, 05:58 PM

*peeks at B.O.* At the moment it looks like it has just now broke even.

Has it though? I always thought a movie is supposed to bring in at least 2.5x it's budget in the domestic office, but if that fails, then 3.5x international to break even.

Andrew NDB

03-13-2019, 06:03 PM

Has it though? I always thought a movie is supposed to bring in at least 2.5x it's budget in the domestic office, but if that fails, then 3.5x international to break even.

I was wrong. By this weekend for sure.

Alita deserved this kind of box office 400% more.

Xav

03-13-2019, 06:49 PM

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Andrew NDB

03-13-2019, 06:52 PM

9pQNYeOEFJc

I saw that. Brings up a good point... Nick Fury had a far more legitimate character arc in the movie than Carol Danvers did.

Sumac

03-13-2019, 07:13 PM

"Captain Marvel takes a jab at sexist True Lies movie."

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/captain-marvel-true-lies-blockbuster-james-cameron.html

I didn't even realize that was a jab. Maybe it was.
Everything is a jab and a statement (if you squint hard enough).
:lol:

Xav

03-13-2019, 10:56 PM

drgon78

03-14-2019, 06:20 AM

I agree with you Andrew NDB, Alita deserves this kind of box office 400%.

neatoman

03-14-2019, 08:00 AM

I saw that. Brings up a good point... Nick Fury had a far more legitimate character arc in the movie than Carol Danvers did.

And how sad is that?

Vegita-San

03-14-2019, 09:19 AM

russo brothers apparently didn't want this. kevin feige did. he's apparently 'woke' now. oy.

bjqzgEyfDao

neatoman

03-14-2019, 09:47 AM

"He has been secretly disguised for all of these years"

I find it funny that he chose to describe Feige's situation in a way that makes him sound like vampire or something.

Anyway, about the Kree blood transfusion. Something I thought was weird when watching the movie (and that I still don't get a week later) is that she still has blue blood, six years after the tranfusion. How does that work? Does she constantly get new transfusions or did it mess with her metabolism?

drgon78

03-14-2019, 09:50 AM

He is a Skrull.:lol:

Andrew NDB

03-14-2019, 10:50 AM

Anyway, about the Kree blood transfusion. Something I thought was weird when watching the movie (and that I still don't get a week later) is that she still has blue blood, six years after the tranfusion. How does that work? Does she constantly get new transfusions or did it mess with her metabolism?

Presumably the latter.

Though it's interesting... wasn't it Kree blood that brought Coulson back to life? Yet he bleeds red.

neatoman

03-14-2019, 11:09 AM

Presumably the latter.

Though it's interesting... wasn't it Kree blood that brought Coulson back to life? Yet he bleeds red.

I stopped watching AoS after season 3 and I remember surprisingly little of the series. I remember that but don't they also imply Inhumans are part Kree as well in that show (rather than simply just their experiment)? I think that some character's reaction to finding out they're an Inhuman was something like "You mean I'm an alien?". Maybe they did some advanced form of Inhuman genetic engineering on her?

Andrew NDB

03-14-2019, 11:22 AM

I stopped watching AoS after season 3 and I remember surprisingly little of the series. I remember that but don't they also imply Inhumans are part Kree as well in that show (rather than simply just their experiment)?

No. I mean, not exactly. The Kree experimented on a % of the population on Earth eons ago so that now, 0.0001% has a tiny bit of Kree DNA. They put a terragenesis chemical in fish oil so that anyone who takes some who has the Kree DNA becomes an Inhuman.

Basically.

LeotheLateBloomer

03-14-2019, 12:52 PM

This movie was all right. Neither amazing nor terrible. I know some people behind me complained about Nick's eye at the end but I thought it was pretty funny.

Andrew NDB

03-14-2019, 02:24 PM

russo brothers apparently didn't want this. kevin feige did. he's apparently 'woke' now. oy.

bjqzgEyfDao

He's the SJW master... the one that we've been looking for!

Autbot_Benz

03-14-2019, 03:43 PM

I might see Captain Marvel next week. If I am gonna complain about it I should at least see it. Since my Theater does 6 dollar tix its not like I am spending a lot.

Papenbrook

03-14-2019, 09:14 PM

Deadline is claiming that it needs $750M to break even.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/captain-marvel-tuesday-box-office-record-1202574950/

It will reach ( and surpass ) that goal in no time. :wink:

Capt. Marv. can do it!

TigerClaw

03-14-2019, 09:16 PM

russo brothers apparently didn't want this. kevin feige did. he's apparently 'woke' now. oy.

bjqzgEyfDao
I wouldn't trust anything from Geeks + Gamers. They are pretty much trolls.

Leo656

03-14-2019, 09:19 PM

"Anyone who says things I don't want to hear is either a troll or a Nazi. Only people I happen to agree with could ever possibly speak the truth."

People are so f*cking precious. :lol:

Autbot_Benz

03-14-2019, 10:03 PM

I wouldn't trust anything from Geeks + Gamers. They are pretty much trolls.

wow way to insult an entire group of people when its a small % of them that ar trolls you :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

https://i.imgur.com/6Ok2R2Q.gif

AT-Man

03-15-2019, 06:34 AM

Why would anyone click on a video called "Kevin Feige Secretly An SJW All This Time"? Stop validating dumb behavior.

Vegita-San

03-15-2019, 07:13 AM

cause with how crazy hollywood is, it just might be true?

rumor has it that disney is buying up tons of captain marvel tickets to inflate sales. yet people are showing empty theaters. or theaters half full.

hmm, getting feigbuster vibes here...

Diorm

03-15-2019, 10:28 AM

Andrew NDB

03-15-2019, 04:27 PM

Rottentomatoes not done looking at ways to shore things up, as a result of Captain Marvel trolls:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/rotten-tomatoes-may-tighten-audience-guidelines/

Vegita-San

03-15-2019, 04:42 PM

So, is rotten tomatoes owned by WB? and is it headed by someone who used to work for disney?

want to get all my facts straight before I counter argument elsewhere :)

Andrew NDB

03-15-2019, 04:43 PM

So, is rotten tomatoes owned by WB?

No. At least, not exactly. It's owned by Fandango, which Comcast owns 70% and WB owns 30%.

Vegita-San

03-15-2019, 04:45 PM

hmm, that info was posted by a SJW and wanted to make sure I Had my facts straight before responding :)

Candy Kappa

03-15-2019, 04:53 PM

Didn't WB buy the company that used to own RT and then like a couple of years ago sold it to Fandago?

Andrew NDB

03-15-2019, 04:56 PM

Didn't WB buy the company that used to own RT and then like a couple of years ago sold it to Fandago?

Apparently not?

Candy Kappa

03-15-2019, 05:01 PM

From the wiki
Since January 2010, Rotten Tomatoes has been owned by Flixster, which was in turn acquired by Warner Bros. in 2011. In February 2016, Rotten Tomatoes and its parent site Flixster were sold to Comcast's Fandango. Warner Bros. retained a minority stake in the merged entities, including Fandango
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten_Tomatoes

So I guess that's where people have from that RT is owned by WB

Xav

03-16-2019, 01:37 AM

Rottentomatoes not done looking at ways to shore things up, as a result of Captain Marvel trolls:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/rotten-tomatoes-may-tighten-audience-guidelines/Honestly, I can't think of any good way to prove that someone has seen a movie.

Andrew NDB

03-16-2019, 01:51 AM

Honestly, I can't think of any good way to prove that someone has seen a movie.

Right? It's just pretense so that they can zap away reviews they "think" are fake with no accountability.

RaphaelinSTL

03-16-2019, 10:53 AM

Girlfriend and I saw it last night.

Fun sci-fi comic book movie, but needed about 99.9% more Goose the Cat.

Papenbrook

03-16-2019, 11:15 AM

Captain Marvel is set to make over a billion (https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/03/14/captain-marvel-on-track-to-fly-past-1-billion-at-worldwide-box-office/), as it should.

neatoman

03-16-2019, 12:33 PM

Captain Marvel is set to make over a billion (https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/03/14/captain-marvel-on-track-to-fly-past-1-billion-at-worldwide-box-office/), as it should.

Well, I guees people really like seeing a movie in which a woman takes an explosive load to the face from a large and hard cylindrical object.

ZariusTwo

03-16-2019, 12:48 PM

Captain Marvel is set to make over a billion (https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/03/14/captain-marvel-on-track-to-fly-past-1-billion-at-worldwide-box-office/), as it should.

Ridiculous. Idiot fems weaponizing this movie have made a mediocre entry some cultural phenom.

Papenbrook

03-16-2019, 01:17 PM

Okay, what is wrong with you guys?

Captain Marvel is an amazing film with a very strong, very capable, and very likable female protagonist.

What's the beef?

neatoman

03-16-2019, 01:31 PM

Okay, what is wrong with you guys?

Captain Marvel is an amazing film with a very strong, very capable, and very likable female protagonist.

What's the beef?

A flimsy script for starters.

Allio

03-16-2019, 01:49 PM

Okay, what is wrong with you guys?

Captain Marvel is an amazing film with a very strong, very capable, and very likable female protagonist.

What's the beef?

It's an average Marvel film at best, nothing really amazing.

drgon78

03-16-2019, 02:11 PM

It is a bellow average marvel movie, with a flimsy script, tries to rewrite the MCU, has one of the biggest Mary Sues I have seen for a while that has no personality at all. Why in the world did they not start with an already established female character as a solo outing instead of one of the most unpopular Marvel characters is beyond me.

Leo656

03-16-2019, 04:06 PM

The moral of the last few posted replies is, "Never ask a question you don't actually want an answer to." Just FYI, Paps.

Autbot_Benz

03-16-2019, 04:28 PM

oh boy can't wait to see this average movie this Tuesday. rather blow 6 bucks to see it in theater than 30 on blu ray

joe-eyeball

03-16-2019, 04:52 PM

oh boy can't wait to see this average movie this Tuesday. rather blow 6 bucks to see it in theater than 30 on blu ray

Save your 6 bucks because this thing sucked horribly! I have now fallen asleep for the third time in my life in a movie theater. I missed the last 20 minutes of the movie. I was told by my wife that that part sucked too!. I will say what I saw of it even though terrible, the fem talk has been a bit overstated. The film certainly could have pushed the feminist agenda even more. Don’t get me wrong it was still present but the over the top woman loving levels it has been brought up to is just SJW’w online convincing themselves this movie is world changing for women! It’s just a bad comic book movie and nothing more!

Autbot_Benz

03-16-2019, 04:56 PM

but the over the top woman loving levels it has been brought up to is just SJW’w online convincing themselves this movie is world changing for women! It’s just a bad comic book movie and nothing more!

I have seen all the Phase 3 movies so might as well see this one. I like Nick Fury and I hear the cat is cool

joe-eyeball

03-16-2019, 05:04 PM

I have seen all the Phase 3 movies so might as well see this one. I like Nick Fury and I hear the cat is cool

Fair enough. I went for the same reason and I gotta say that Endgame might be it for me! I thought Black Panther was soooo boooring and Antman and Wasp was kind of boring and then Infinity War redeemed it all for me and then Captain Marvel came along and dropped the MCU back into the toilet!

Jester

03-16-2019, 05:08 PM

Okay, what is wrong with you guys?

Captain Marvel is an amazing film with a very strong, very capable, and very likable female protagonist.

What's the beef?
Well....2 out of 3 ain't bad...

I mean to say, she was far from likeable. It was an ok movie, but Carol was not likable at all.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-16-2019, 05:47 PM

Flimsy script rewriting the MCU? I think some of you guys weren't paying enough attention. MOST of the supposed "rewrite" material actually goes back to Captain America First Avenger, or to Avengers 1. In case anyone missed it, Project Pegasus was in the same facility Loki invaded in the Avenhers, and Howard Stark apparently knew Lawson, since she had an arc reactor on her ship and was allowed to use the Tesseract after Stark found it. Seriously, it all makes sense if you just dig a little into the background. The only question is really how/when she took it up to her ship, and if anyone knew about it....

neatoman

03-16-2019, 06:21 PM

Well....2 out of 3 ain't bad...

I mean to say, she was far from likeable. It was an ok movie, but Carol was not likable at all.

Well, "likable" compared to the comic book version at least but it's kind of hard to make a less likable character than one who wants to throw innocent children in prison...
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2016/09/Miles-Carol.pnghttp://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Civil-War-II-6-Marvel-Now-2016-Spoilers-4.jpg

Though at least an unlikable trait is still one that invokes emotion, so that still makes comic Carol a better character.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-17-2019, 09:48 AM

Well, "likable" compared to the comic book version at least but it's kind of hard to make a less likable character than one who wants to throw innocent children in prison...
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2016/09/Miles-Carol.pnghttp://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Civil-War-II-6-Marvel-Now-2016-Spoilers-4.jpg

Though at least an unlikable trait is still one that invokes emotion, so that still makes comic Carol a better character.

Wow, talk about taking something out of context. There is clearly more to that scene than is shown, but her doing her job- while clearly also not liking the fact that it is "necessary" to arrest a teenager- hardly qualifies as "unlikable". He's a powered individual who may or may not have done something warranting his arrest. Heck, TONY tried to arrest Peter himself for not complying with the SHRA in Civil War! When he knew damn well what the consequenses would be to both Peter and his family for first outing him, then making him into a fugitive after he realized his mistake in backing Tony and the SHRA. In truth, I find Tony's reaction to her arresting Miles FAR more unlikable here, as it shows what a hypocrite he is.

Jester

03-17-2019, 02:22 PM

Or....you know....he learned from past mistakes.

MsMarvelDuckie

03-17-2019, 06:35 PM

You do realize this is Tony frigging Stark we are talking about, right? You know, massive ego to go with his enormous bankroll and IQ?

Galactus

03-17-2019, 07:45 PM

"Anyone who says things I don't want to hear is either a troll or a Nazi. Only people I happen to agree with could ever possibly speak the truth."

People are so f*cking precious. :lol:

I find this argument hilarious given the kind of crap we're supposed to buy from the other side.

I mean we were supposed to believe every professional critic was paid off by Disney to give positive reviews of Marvel movies but now we're expected to also believe that this particular movie's financial success is all one elaborate hoax and Disney have infiltrated every organisation that tracks box office to disguise that the movie is playing to empty theaters.

We're at flat earth territory and it's born out of insecure need from people to refuse to accept anything they don't like as being successful or popular. These same people also think CBS is lying about Star Trek: Discovery's ratings and throwing money at a third season, improved budget and a direct spin off to a promote a PC agenda...because that's what corporations do.:roll:

While there's plenty of idiots that are stupid enough to believe things like this I find it hard to think the original sources really believe this and just made it up to make trouble for a project they politically disagree with so yes I would call that trolling. (Remember the white people who were supposedly being beaten up Black Panther screenings) The fact that on balance you're likely to find many of them have connections to legit neo nazis shouldn't just be dismissed either.

Why in the world did they not start with an already established female character as a solo outing instead of one of the most unpopular Marvel characters is beyond me.

Why? Marvel have a track record of making a success out of new characters and clearly Captain Marvel is no exception.

Carol Danvers has retained a loyal cult following since her original series.

Her original Captain Marvel series had pretty good sales as does her current relaunch. I imagine the character has picked up more than a few fans due to the movie.

Well, "likable" compared to the comic book version at least but it's kind of hard to make a less likable character than one who wants to throw innocent children in prison...
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2016/09/Miles-Carol.pnghttp://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Civil-War-II-6-Marvel-Now-2016-Spoilers-4.jpg

Though at least an unlikable trait is still one that invokes emotion, so that still makes comic Carol a better character.

You're taking a shock cliff hanger very literal here. If I remember correctly the opening of the very next issue had Carol say she wouldn't arrest Miles if he would agree to come with her willingly.

I've always maintained that the first comic Civil War (a not very good story) did wonders for Iron Man. He's pretty much the villain of the story but it gave him a much bigger spotlight than the character ever had, catapulted him to the top tier character that people cared about. There was no shortage of people saying stuff like "sure his methods were bad but his motivation was good" etc.

I've always found it strange that Civil War II (also not a very good story) didn't do the same for Carol. She didn't do anything anywhere near as bad a Stark did in the first crossover and her motivations are just as valid. Even the example you give isn't exactly some irredeemable crime I mean law enforcement in real life take people into custody or arrest them on suspicion they will commit a crime and in the context of the story at that point there was solid evidence Miles was going to do something pretty bad.

I imagine readers who might have sided with Carol on this (like people who sided with Tony during the first Civil War) were put off by...shall we say superficial things.

Xav

03-17-2019, 08:43 PM

While there's plenty of idiots that are stupid enough to believe things like this I find it hard to think the original sources really believe this and just made it up to make trouble for a project they politically disagree with so yes I would call that trolling.So you really think Empire magazine just made up a Kevin Feige quote because they are secretly right-wing trolls?

Galactus

03-17-2019, 08:56 PM

So you really think Empire magazine just made up a Kevin Feige quote because they are secretly right-wing trolls?

Gonna need more on this.

If it's the quote from the video linked earlier about how Feige is an 'SJW' I don't know what that has to do with anything, Feige is describing a minor plot point from the movie. What does that to do with the weird conspiracy theories about Disney buying what is likely to be a billion dollars worth of tickets in every country to Captain Marvel to hide that it's playing to empty theaters?

If that's not what you're referring to then you're gonna have to help me out because I'm at a loss.

Autbot_Benz

03-19-2019, 11:35 AM

I have seen all the Phase 3 movies so might as well see this one. I like Nick Fury and I hear the cat is cool

I changed my mind again I just have no wanting to spend 2 hours watching an average movie and watching Brie "sourpuss" Larson for that long

joe-eyeball

03-19-2019, 11:46 AM

I changed my mind again I just have no wanting to spend 2 hours watching an average movie and watching Brie "sourpuss" Larson for that long

I’m jealous! They already got my money from two tickets and that sucks! Bravo to you👏

Andrew NDB

03-19-2019, 12:37 PM

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-19-2019, 01:05 PM

neatoman

03-19-2019, 01:38 PM

This is a little bit illuminating:

https://www.thelist.com/52300/stunning-transformation-brie-larson

So she was home-schooled, never missed the high school experience, and feels an obligation to activism.

2005 Brie Larson: "The one that really bugs me is that I'm told I'm too smart to make it in this industry." "For me, I would love to have a stamp. I know it's a weird answer, but I was at the post office and saw all the people who had stamps: Elvis Presley and Mother Theresa. Everyone changed the world in some way through music, movies, or even charity. I think it would be awesome to have a stamp because you know you did something to change the world and change people's opinion or mind." "I guess I was always an outsider and some kind of anarchist."

Yikes!

... So this woman thinks A Wrinkle in Time flopped because too many critics weren't part of (what she thought was) it's target demographic, she responded to Stan Lee's death with what seemed like sarcasm and she thinks stamps are a mark of Mother Teresa's success...

I'm not going to go into detail about why movies actually flop, why it's a bad idea to semmingly disrespect the death of a man who wrote the source material for much of your presumed future work or why claiming stamps are a signifigant measurement of success is bizarre.

Suffice it to say... Maybe her character in the movie should have been alien after all? Because she sure as hell comes across as one in real life...

joe-eyeball

03-19-2019, 03:39 PM

So basically in her own words she is an anarchist but not very rebellious. OK!

Xav

03-20-2019, 01:34 AM

Carol Danvers’ Co-Creator, Roy Thomas, Watches the Captain Marvel Movie (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/12/carol-danvers-co-creator-roy-thomas-watches-the-captain-marvel-movie/)

Vegita-San

03-20-2019, 06:23 AM

... So this woman thinks A Wrinkle in Time flopped because too many critics weren't part of (what she thought was) it's target demographic, she responded to Stan Lee's death with what seemed like sarcasm and she thinks stamps are a mark of Mother Teresa's success...

I'm not going to go into detail about why movies actually flop, why it's a bad idea to semmingly disrespect the death of a man who wrote the source material for much of your presumed future work or why claiming stamps are a signifigant measurement of success is bizarre.

Suffice it to say... Maybe her character in the movie should have been alien after all? Because she sure as hell comes across as one in real life...

It's amazing how some of the fans of this movie react as well.

Well, I guess they got their feminist win..so they can be as nasty and goofy as they want.

Redeemer

03-20-2019, 07:38 AM

Carol Danvers’ Co-Creator, Roy Thomas, Watches the Captain Marvel Movie (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/12/carol-danvers-co-creator-roy-thomas-watches-the-captain-marvel-movie/)

It's awesome to see when creators can be transparent. It sounds like he isn't a sell out or an elitist, but very well grounded.

Papenbrook

03-20-2019, 07:51 AM

( Just, please talk about the film, for the love of ... )

Andrew NDB

03-20-2019, 10:50 AM

( Just, please talk about the film, for the love of ... )

This thread really isn't healthy for you. Like, at all. Not even a little bit.

drgon78

03-20-2019, 11:04 AM

The film itself isn't worth talking about, now everyone and everything going on around it is.:lol:

neatoman

03-20-2019, 11:42 AM

( Just, please talk about the film, for the love of ... )

Watching that movie is like eating a boiled potato while observing paint dry, it's dull and forgetable.

Now let's get back to what a weirdo Brie is.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-20-2019, 12:01 PM

( Just, please talk about the film, for the love of ... )

If one does not want to be wet, one should step inside out of the rain.

Ancient Kree proverb.

Andrew NDB

03-20-2019, 12:32 PM

Now let's get back to what a weirdo Brie is.

I never meant to dig into her as much as I have but... sheesh. And I mean sheesh. The more I read about her the more it's just fascinating, in the worst possible way. Like, she really is proudly like the personification of everything that's wrong with the current generation and "popular" thinking, brought to life completely unabashed.

Like the Golgotha in Dogma.

Allio

03-20-2019, 12:33 PM

Papen has some split personality going on between this thread and sonic

Andrew NDB

03-20-2019, 12:35 PM

Papen has some split personality going on between this thread and sonic

We all love Papen, but we all know she (it's she, right?) has a healthy dusting of... something.

drgon78

03-20-2019, 07:37 PM

Brie is a SUPER FREAK..SHE IS SUPER FREAKY...

snake

03-20-2019, 08:00 PM

We all love Papen, but we all know she (it's she, right?) has a healthy dusting of... something.

A tiny touch of the ‘tism, perhaps?

Leo656

03-20-2019, 08:07 PM

I'm going with "Performance Artist" until proven otherwise.

neatoman

03-25-2019, 03:37 PM

OK, now I have an actual thing to say about the movie. Do you think it would have sucked less if the main character wasn't Carol with a convoluted version of her backstory, but rather a Mar-Vell/Carol combo? You know, basically just a female Mar-Vell using the Carol Danvers name in her human disguise. I know we'd lose out on wonderful parts like the "cockpit" flashback and the misleading statements about the US air force, but you would get a more focused plot and a stronger character (even if that doesn't fix the lead actress).

Autbot_Benz

04-03-2019, 01:11 PM

Cap passes 1 Billion.....

Big whoop Infinity War passed 2 Billion and 5 other MCU Movies passed 1 Billion too

neatoman

04-03-2019, 01:30 PM

Cap passes 1 Billion.....

Big whoop Infinity War passed 2 Billion and 5 other MCU Movies passed 1 Billion too

Not to mention TLJ and Star Wars fans just can't stop treating that movie like cats treat a litter box.

Candy Kappa

04-03-2019, 01:36 PM

and the misleading statements about the US air force, but you would get a more focused plot and a stronger character (even if that doesn't fix the lead actress).

What was misleading?

Isn't it correct that while women could earn their wings in the 70's, they where limited to non-combat pilot roles until 1993?

neatoman

04-03-2019, 02:17 PM

What was misleading?

Isn't it correct that while women could earn their wings in the 70's, they where limited to non-combat pilot roles until 1993?

It is correct but the way it's presented in the movie makes it seem as if women were only allowed to be test pilots, while the reality is that it was specifically just combat they were barred from. The example wikipedia lists is women piloting tankers. It's also worth noting that experienced combat pilots are generally prefered to test new models, which you know, just makes everything about this scenario kind of weird. If Carol never piloted a combat vehicle, how would she know if it'd be good for combat? That's why test pilots exists. If anything she'd be the last option. The movie is technically not wrong in what it's stating, it's how it's presented that bugged me.

Candy Kappa

04-03-2019, 02:51 PM

Women pilots, trained men to be combat ready, so why not test pilot? Is it any weirder the Steve going from Private to Captain in tank purely on getting the serum?

neatoman

04-03-2019, 03:17 PM

Women pilots, trained men to be combat ready, so why not test pilot? Is it any weirder the Steve going from Private to Captain in tank purely on getting the serum?

I assume you're talking about First Avenger and not any comic here. I'd have to rewatch it to be sure but from what I remember, he was only granted the title as a publicity stunt because he ended upbeing a gloryfied mascot before taking charge. It wasn't like "Here's some sci-fi 'roids, now go kick some nazi ass!".

Candy Kappa

04-03-2019, 03:26 PM

He's still a captain in rank though, stunt or not. Carter does refer to Steve as Captain Rogers when he went missing

Papenbrook

04-04-2019, 12:26 AM

I knew that it would!

Welcome to the official billion dollar club, Capt'n Marv! :D

ProactiveMan

04-04-2019, 02:24 AM

I don't understand how the energy thing works. What happens to the potential energy when it's not shooting out of her hands and stuff? Is it produced by her cells? Does she need to eat a lot to prevent her body from consuming itself?

I guess the writers thought they were making magic powers seem more plausible by bestowing them with pseudoscience, but ironically I think it would have been more believable if it were a case of "I'm a magic wizard, and I'm giving you my magic wizard powers Carol Danvers".

neatoman

04-18-2019, 12:39 PM

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Papenbrook

04-18-2019, 08:12 PM

It still made over a billion.

Sexist critics couldn't stop the train.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

04-18-2019, 08:26 PM

It still made over a billion.

Sexist critics couldn't stop the train.

The train didn't need to be stopped; I don't think any of us even wanted to ruin a train on Brie. We're all gentlemen here.

Autbot_Benz

04-18-2019, 08:27 PM

The train didn't need to be stopped; I don't think any of us even wanted to ruin a train on Brie. We're all gentlemen here.

I still can't stand Brie she comes off as smug and thinks she is gods gift to feminism :lol:

Leo656

04-18-2019, 08:28 PM

Anyone who didn't think "Captain Marvel" was brilliant is a Sexist. Anyone who didn't think "Black Panther" was brilliant is a Racist. Anyone who thought "The Last Jedi" sucked is both Sexist AND Racist.

What a f*cking fantastic time to be alive.

Also, I'd pay at least $3 to see someone run a train on Brie Larson. Just sayin'.

Redeemer

04-18-2019, 09:29 PM

It still made over a billion.

Sexist critics couldn't stop the train.

I really don't think its sexiest to call her a bad actor or to say it was a bad movie...... Literally I have not seen a single person IRL or on this forum condemn this movie bc of Brie Larson's sex......

Unfortunately the sad truth is I am sure there are people out there who wanted this movie to fail just bc of her politics or ideals which is disappointing.... But I feel like this narrative that you and others are pushing "Support Captain Marvel or you are a bigot" is being blown way out of proportion....

I am glad to see another Female lead movie succeed, hopefully this will lead to more and more. Hopefully we eventually get a solo Spider-Gwen movie in the near future!!

I am disappointed in the fact that this movie was not great in terms of quality, but I am glad to see that it was a financial success and will probably lead to more Female solo movies like I sad up above.

This movie was pretty much Batman v Superman 2.0 Financially a boom, but bad quality.

Papenbrook

04-19-2019, 01:39 AM

People are allowed to dislike/abhor Captain Marvel. They're allowed to not recommend this film. They are even allowed to criticize the direction that Disney/Marvel is taking the MCU.

Basically, I've got no issue with any of their critiques if said critiques happen to center around/relate to any of the above propositions.

With that in mind, the vast majority of watchers/reviewers are being unnecessarily critical towards not only this film, but also towards Brie Larson herself. Saying things like, "Brie Larson hates white men!", or "Brie Larson is sexist/racist towards white men!", has absolutely nothing to do with the film itself; they're just basically saying that they can't even bother to have a mature conversation/review. Those/These specific set of individuals have a "serious" issue with Brie Larson herself, and the insecurity/immaturity that surrounds their critiques reflect their overall close-mindedness towards ... people with different views/perspectives than they themselves. That's ... just pathetic.

Rating/Review-bombing a film, just because of what a person said in an interview ( that doesn't even relate to its universe, let alone the film itself ), is, quite frankly, just laughable. Because that speaks volumes about what their tolerance/acceptance level is. ( I know they wouldn't do that with a white male lead that headlined a particular movie, or even a male lead that shared the same, or similar views [ as/with Brie Larson ]. )

That's why I called them sexist critics, because they just hate anything/anyone that doesn't share the same mindset/reality as them. They just can't handle something different; if Marvel even thinks about hiring an outspoken feminist to headline their film, the vast majority of reviewers would lose it. That, again, speaks more about them than it does about Brie Larson.

I have absolutely zero respect for grown men who go on and harass/belittle people ( in this particular case, women ) who think that media should be judged fairly within reasonable merits, and/or who think that media should expand narratives that don't align with what they ( toxic male critics ) think is "acceptable" ( I.e., "mainstream" ); that just shows how intolerant they are.

That's why I hoped that the film would prove their efforts ineffective, and it certainly did. :D

Voltron

04-19-2019, 01:55 AM

You can also save yourself a headache by not jumping into that cesspool. I loved Black Panther. I thought it was a really fun movie with a relevant story.

Captain Marvel was fun, but it was more a spectacle than anything else. The story wasn't Shakespeare, but I wasn't expecting that. I just wanted to see someone use laser beams to blow up aliens.

That's exactly what I got.

Why people think these movies are targeted specifically at them on a personal level is beyond me.

Leo656

04-19-2019, 02:40 AM

Most "white male leads" would have the awareness not to say things in interviews like, "I don't care if women or black people care about this movie, it isn't for them."

I'm pretty "meh" about Brie Larson because I've only seen her in "Kong", and she was fine in that. But she says stupid stuff in interviews and invited ALL of the criticism upon herself. People were right to either roll their eyes and/or call her an idiot, because the things she says are stupid. And if it makes them not care about her movie(s), that's also their prerogative. I agree, it's childish, but them's the breaks. I was never gonna see this one anyway, but seeing her bury herself in interview after interview definitely made it a much easier decision to not care. She's just as childish and immature as anyone. Don't put your neck out if you don't don't want people to take a swipe at it. Common sense.

There was no "conspiracy". She said dumb stuff about who "deserved" to have an opinion and people rightfully got pissy with her for it. That was it. Hopefully she learned something, but I doubt it, because her movie made a lot of money, so I doubt she'll speak any differently going forward. The rule of thumb is, "If you can't flip the race or gender without making a statement horrible, don't say it." But Straight White Males are presently "Evil", and thus anyone can say any stupid thing about them without repercussions. I don't think that's very fair, and I do think it's fine for people who say those things to be given a hefty amount of sh*t. It's not like anyone was stalking Brie Larson or leaving dead animals on her doorstep; they said snarky sh*t on message boards and claimed they weren't going to see her movie, which most of them probably did anyway. This is a non-story. Brie Larson is neither a crusader nor a victim, she's a spoiled brat and a mediocre actress who gets roles based on her admittedly-good looks and simply shouldn't talk so much. Anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Good for her that her movie made money. So did "Avatar", and like "Avatar", everyone seemingly moved right on to the Next Thing very quickly, so I'm not sure this film will ultimately have the cultural impact they were hoping for. In 10 or 20 years we'll know for sure whether they made a Modern Classic or just got lucky and managed to capitalize on the "Endgame" hype. Not being personally involved as I'm not a fan of these movies, I'll say this: I definitely heard a lot more people still buzzing about "Black Panther" after this much time had passed. Seems to me like people really, really just couldn't wait to see another Marvel flick before "Endgame". I could be wrong but that's my observation. I think any film given that release date and "You MUST see this movie before you see 'Endgame'!" advertising push would have done just as well. I don't think the quality of the film or the power of feminism had anything to do with it. Maybe a little bit but not to an extreme degree. People are extremely loyal to the Marvel brand; she's merely lucky enough to be along for the ride.

At the very least, I hope she realizes that the movie didn't make a billion because of anything she did; it had nothing to do with her and everything to do with the marketplace. But she does seem like the type to believe it was all thanks to her, so... yeah. Anyways, people rushing to her "rescue" makes me laugh. Not necessary. She doesn't need defenders, she needs someone to coach her how not to come off like a snot.

Papenbrook

04-19-2019, 03:52 AM

On a slightly different, but nonetheless relevant, note, Brie Larson has just made history! (https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/tessa-thompson-brie-larson-systemic-change-in-hollywood-1202059537/) :D

Congrats, Brie! :D

neatoman

04-19-2019, 01:57 PM

It still made over a billion.

Sexist critics couldn't stop the train.

And yet videos such as that one came out well after and the audience score on RT is still actively dropping. Strange ain't it? It's almost as if people don't actually like this movie and mainly watched it because it was marketed as the all-important bridge between the fourth highest grossing movie of all time and it's direct sequel... Or something...

Redeemer

04-19-2019, 08:01 PM

Rating/Review-bombing a film, just because of what a person said in an interview ( that doesn't even relate to its universe, let alone the film itself ), is, quite frankly, just laughable. Because that speaks volumes about what their tolerance/acceptance level is. ( I know they wouldn't do that with a white male lead that headlined a particular movie, or even a male lead that shared the same, or similar views [ as/with Brie Larson ]. )

:lol: James Gunn..... Literally James Gunn :lol: The head of the Guardians of Galaxy franchise got removed from the project, a freaking director got removed. Forget about being a lead, the freaking director got removed. :lol: I think Hollywood has become pretty open and overall better in terms of Gender equality, but they still have more room for improvement.

I think the problem is that Brie Larson was trying to be vocal about the inequality female leads, but instead of trying to be inclusive she was exclusive as previous post have indicated her comment of "This movie is not for men" speaks of exclusion, not inclusion.

I also agree that it is ridiculous that people would try or want a movie to fail solely bc of comments an actor made.... You think they would have something better to do than to review bomb a movie. :ohwell:

Vegita-San

04-19-2019, 08:03 PM

not to get into this whole mess again with people who've already made up their minds about stuff ....

But you ABSOLUTELY can judge an entire project based on one actors comments. chances are they are favored by the people making the project, and THAT is why people bomb a movie before it's release.

case in point, feigbusters, star wars.

Papenbrook

04-20-2019, 01:29 PM

No, you can't, as they have virtually nothing to do with the film(s) itself/themselves.

Ask Chris Evans if he received this sort of harassment during his "CA: CW" tenure.

Leo656

04-20-2019, 03:51 PM

Chris Evans is actually really good at his job, though.

That's kind of a variable.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

04-21-2019, 02:05 PM

No, you can't, as they have virtually nothing to do with the film(s) itself/themselves.

Ask Chris Evans if he received this sort of harassment during his "CA: CW" tenure.

I don't remember Chris Evans trumpeting his movie as a triumph for men everywhere and that, if women didn't like the movie, their opinions don't matter.

Chris Evans is actually really good at his job, though.

That's kind of a variable.

:tlol:

Papenbrook

04-21-2019, 10:41 PM

Brie never said nor implied that the movie "wasn't made for men in mind", or that it was a "triumph for women everywhere".

And even if she did, that wouldn't ever be used as an excuse for the harassment.

Xav

04-23-2019, 01:28 AM

You're acting like Brie Larson is the first person to ever be insulted on the internet.

Papenbrook

04-23-2019, 03:44 AM

It's the ferocity and frequency of the harassment that just makes it both indefensible and inexcusable.

It's disgusting.

Jester

04-23-2019, 10:03 AM

https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/gettyimages-617348650.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

Leo656

04-23-2019, 04:48 PM

It's not "harassment", it's Commentary.

You know that "Let people enjoy things" meme? Well it works in reverse, too. People are allowed to express a negative opinion if it's how they truly feel. So long as they don't go overboard.

I mean, we probably have a much different idea of what constitutes "overboard". But the point still stands.

Vegita-San

04-23-2019, 05:38 PM

Leo656

04-23-2019, 08:58 PM

Everybody has a right to an opinion. Just don't be a piece of sh*t.

Should be simple.

Shinigami

04-23-2019, 10:02 PM

Everybody has a right to an opinion. Just don't be a piece of sh*t.

Should be simple.

Also, I'd pay at least $3 to see someone run a train on Brie Larson. Just sayin'.

Should be.

Andrew NDB

04-23-2019, 11:12 PM

It's not "harassment", it's Commentary.

You know that "Let people enjoy things" meme? Well it works in reverse, too. People are allowed to express a negative opinion if it's how they truly feel. So long as they don't go overboard.

No, because then you're a "gatekeeper," or whatever word the SJWs invent in the language this week to try and make their ship airtight.

Vegita-San

04-24-2019, 12:20 AM

oh noes! you said the word! the one word that some people around these parts just can't stand, cause reasons~

Andrew NDB

04-24-2019, 12:34 AM

oh noes! you said the word! the one word that some people around these parts just can't stand, cause reasons~

You're such an edgelord!

Leo656

04-24-2019, 03:39 AM

Should be.

My sh*t's hilarious, otherwise I'd never get away with half of it.

...Also, to be fair I said "At Least $3." That implies that I'd probably pay more. That's a sign of respect!

Papenbrook

04-24-2019, 10:00 AM

Um, I think that spamming the Twitter account she tweets with and review-bombing the film she stars in are just a few examples of going overboard, ... no?

Andrew NDB

04-24-2019, 10:43 AM

Um, I think that spamming the Twitter account she tweets with and review-bombing the film she stars in is going overboard, ... no?

People on the internet do dumb stuff everyday. Welcome to... 2003. Who cares? She shouldn't.

And the "review bombing" was FAKE news through and through. You can't review bomb a movie that hasn't come out yet. It was just an overwhelming number of people clicking "No" to the "Do you want to see this movie?" on the RT page.

Candy Kappa

04-24-2019, 12:52 PM

How dare Brie steal RDJ's shtick of being smug :lol:

ranger_scout

04-24-2019, 06:58 PM

With Avengers: Endgame being released this weekend, it only makes sense that the folks at HISHE should do this.

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Andrew NDB

04-25-2019, 01:10 AM

Sh**. They all hate her.

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Autbot_Benz

04-25-2019, 02:03 AM

Sh**. They all hate her.

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The Way Renner says he doesn't use his celebrity to do what Brie does is ****ing priceless and some awesome shade. Renner's body language and eyerolling says it all

Vegita-San

04-25-2019, 09:35 AM

You're such an edgelord!

you know me. I apparently crave attention. said by the people who tend to make bigger fusses :)

Papenbrook

04-25-2019, 10:26 AM

We don't know the cast, or what they experience on set.

So, we don't even know if they hate Brie or not.

Andrew NDB

04-25-2019, 12:14 PM

Brie Larson forgets meeting/already having worked on a movie with Scarlet Johansson.

https://www.etonline.com/brie-larson-hilariously-forgets-how-she-and-scarlett-johansson-first-met-124015

oldmanwinters

04-25-2019, 12:55 PM

One of the Yahoo! headlines that caught my attention today:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/captain-marvel-apos-hair-real-150000295.html

:roll:

Autbot_Benz

04-25-2019, 03:01 PM

The Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score is 54% they can't blame the non existent review bombers for that one.

oldmanwinters

04-25-2019, 04:42 PM

The Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score is 54% they can't blame the non existent review bombers for that one.

I'll confess I don't understand how "Certified Fresh" badges are given out. A movie can have a score in the critical category 70-ish % and hold a badge while higher rated movies aren't guaranteed a badge.
http://i.imgur.com/NI6aamDl.jpg (https://imgur.com/NI6aamD)
http://i.imgur.com/hHJw34Cl.jpg (https://imgur.com/hHJw34C)
http://i.imgur.com/wrAus9ul.jpg (https://imgur.com/wrAus9u)
http://i.imgur.com/IjmQjIWl.jpg (https://imgur.com/IjmQjIW)

No politics at play, eh?

Cure

04-25-2019, 04:52 PM

Certified Fresh status is a special distinction awarded to the best-reviewed movies and TV shows. In order to qualify, movies or TV shows must meet the following requirements:

A steady Tomatometer score of 75% or higher.
At least five reviews from Top Critics.
Films in wide release must have a minimum of 80 reviews.
Films in limited release must have a minimum of 40 reviews.
Only individual seasons of a TV show are eligible, and each must have a minimum of 20 reviews.
A movie or TV show that reaches the requirements for Certified Fresh doesn't immediately receive the designation. Instead, it is automatically flagged for our staff's consideration. Once the team can determine that it's unlikely the score will drop below the minimum requirements, they will mark it Certified Fresh.

If the Tomatometer score drops below 70%, then the movie or TV show will lose its Certified Fresh status.

It's one click away on the website.

Candy Kappa

04-25-2019, 05:11 PM

It's one click away on the website.

Sounds like a lot of work, instead of just... assume stuff

oldmanwinters

04-25-2019, 05:15 PM

But who gets the privilege of being considered a "Top Critic?"

The RT scores basically favor some "critics" over others and give lower credibility to audience ratings.

Candy Kappa

04-25-2019, 05:44 PM

But who gets the privilege of being considered a "Top Critic?"

The RT scores basically favor some "critics" over others and give lower credibility to audience ratings.

A Top Critic is a
professional film critic at an outlet invited to join RT. Then, you have to establish a history of several years working at prominent outlets with significant readership/viewership, and be considered by the public, peers, and (especially) RT to be influential and providing high quality film reviews. In other words, be a well known critic who writes impressive reviews at a well-known outlet for a long period of time.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-can-i-become-a-top-critic-on-rotten-tomatoes_b_59ee3a6fe4b036b5fdb9e5e9

It ain't some conspiracy theory, it's standard RT.

Voltron

04-25-2019, 10:50 PM

I'm seeing less and less distinction between you guys and the SJWs you swear to abhor. Every time I come on here, you're bellyaching about someone disrespecting you and your masculinity.

Vegita-San

04-26-2019, 03:13 AM

trolling is not your forte. no one can be that clueless on what's being talked about here.

Andrew NDB

04-26-2019, 03:17 AM

I'm seeing less and less distinction between you guys and the SJWs you swear to abhor. Every time I come on here, you're bellyaching about someone disrespecting you and your masculinity.

Is this the part where anyone with a different viewpoint just needs to shut their mouth lest their posts be deleted or edited? Seems like it.

I mean, I'd love to actually respond to this post. But I know where the rabbit hole leads.

Vegita-San

04-26-2019, 05:42 AM

where is krang for de-modding when we need him? sometimes it's fun to take arrogant people down a notch or two.

Candy Kappa

04-26-2019, 06:25 AM

Is this the part where anyone with a different viewpoint just needs to shut their mouth lest their posts be deleted or edited? Seems like it.

Still mad that you can't post political bait threads anymore? :lol:

Voltron

04-26-2019, 07:15 AM

That banning hit hard. Though I do appreciate the attempt to sneak their whining into Everything Else, like no one would notice the continued pearl clutching.

And it's not the opposing opinions that offend. I've been clear about that time and again. The thing that gets you in trouble is the borderline extremism and political baiting.

Not to mention the links to white nationalist and alt-right websites.

I mean, I'd love to actually respond to this post. But I know where the rabbit hole leads.

Again, I'd love to have a conversation about it, but you typically just fall back on dismissing any point given with "so what?!" and "who cares?!" That's assuming you respond at all. Typically you just ignore the post and move on with the circlejerk.

Contrast this with some other members who lean right and actually back up their points with explanations, experiences, and other things that actually LEAD to a discussion.

Andrew NDB

04-26-2019, 10:47 AM

Contrast this with some other members who lean right and actually back up their points with explanations, experiences, and other things that actually LEAD to a discussion.

You mean the ones who feign to like you? :lol:

ZariusTwo

04-26-2019, 11:30 AM

And it's not the opposing opinions that offend.

Not to mention the links to white nationalist and alt-right websites.

So..exactly that then?:P

Refractive Reflections

04-27-2019, 08:40 AM

That banning hit hard. Though I do appreciate the attempt to sneak their whining into Everything Else, like no one would notice the continued pearl clutching.

And it's not the opposing opinions that offend. I've been clear about that time and again. The thing that gets you in trouble is the borderline extremism and political baiting.

Not to mention the links to white nationalist and alt-right websites.

Again, I'd love to have a conversation about it, but you typically just fall back on dismissing any point given with "so what?!" and "who cares?!" That's assuming you respond at all. Typically you just ignore the post and move on with the circlejerk.

Contrast this with some other members who lean right and actually back up their points with explanations, experiences, and other things that actually LEAD to a discussion.

I would to love to see 3 politically-heavy threads where you apparently welcome such contrary viewpoints where, 1) you didn't evoke sarcasm or politically bait others yourself, 2) didn't delete posts that had counterpoints to your arguments, 3) or the thread wasn't closed/deleted completely.