Germany (sort of) Declares War!

[snake]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-21/german-press-was-no-presidential-speech-was-declaration-war

America first?

Looks like the globalists are going to fight back.

[ToTheNines]

Protectionism only hurts consumers, ultimately. Pinch those pennies.

[CyberCubed]

There are no major wars until Crazy Kim launches Nukes from North Korea.

There will be wars in the middle east until the end of time. They've been killing each other for the last 10,000 years there, they'll be killing each other for the next 10,000 years too.

[Candy Kappa]

Crazy Kim

Someone have been affected by the Trump tweets in the other thread :lol:

[snake]

Someone have been affected by the Trump tweets in the other thread :lol:

Lyin' Cubed will deny it. Sad!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

There will be wars in the middle east until the end of time. They've been killing each other for the last 10,000 years there, they'll be killing each other for the next 10,000 years too.

This is so ignorant. The Middle East was much more peaceful and prosperous than Europe during the middle ages. It wasn't always like what it is today.

[Prowler]

What makes the ME so unstable nowadays? It all goes back to the Treaty or Versailles. And ofc the creation of the state of Israel didn't help matters either.

[Andrew NDB]

So I'm genuinely curious. The media sphere is lighting up about this "far right party" in Germany taking power. What about it makes it "far right," exactly?

[Barkworm]

So I'm genuinely curious. The media sphere is lighting up about this "far right party" in Germany taking power. What about it makes it "far right," exactly?

You've misread whatever you've been reading. They have not taken power, they have won the most votes in the state elections of Saxony-Anhalt (a sparsely populated state in the east) yesterday. Since they don't have a majority and other parties refuse to work with them, it remains to be seen what this win will mean for the state.
Think of them as Germany's Republicans. And by Republicans, I mean modern day Republicans, not 1980s Republicans. Deportation, anti-immigration, pro-Russia, ties to Neo-Nazi groups etc.


International and national media are going nuts over this because it's the AfD's biggest win yet but it is not without precedent in the last couple of years.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean no disrespect I just want to understand. What are these "ties to Neo-Nazi groups," for example?

[Barkworm]

There's a full Wikipedia page devoted to that. It's often stuff like candidate X is friends with a convicted Skinhead or candidate Y coincidentally lives in a mansion that hosted a party for a Neo-Nazi group who brought their Nazi memorabilia and so on.

[Prowler]

You've misread whatever you've been reading. They have not taken power, they have won the most votes in the state elections of Saxony-Anhalt (a sparsely populated state in the east) yesterday. Since they don't have a majority and other parties refuse to work with them, it remains to be seen what this win will mean for the state.
Think of them as Germany's Republicans. And by Republicans, I mean modern day Republicans, not 1980s Republicans. Deportation, anti-immigration, pro-Russia, ties to Neo-Nazi groups etc.


International and national media are going nuts over this because it's the AfD's biggest win yet but it is not without precedent in the last couple of years.

There's a full Wikipedia page devoted to that. It's often stuff like candidate X is friends with a convicted Skinhead or candidate Y coincidentally lives in a mansion that hosted a party for a Neo-Nazi group who brought their Nazi memorabilia and so on.

Funny enough, when I first heard of the AfD several years ago, a lot of people didn't consider it a far-right group. Did the party's ideology shift with time?

The closest thing to a Nazi party in Germany for a long time was, I believe, the NDP, which is now called Die Heimat. But it's quite an irrelevant party, isn't it?

From what I gather based on things I've seen Germans say online, Sachsen/Saxony is the most backwards of all German states. Dunno if Saxony-Anhalt is put in the same bag as well.

Interestingly, I follow a Bavarrian who votes AfD on Twitter and he follows me back. We're both fans of the same 80s anime series. The guy is definitely not a Nazi by any means, though. He strongly condemns the Holocaust, likes Jewish people, and is pro-Israel. He seems to be a proud Catholic, he doesn't like Muslims much and is not too keen on the "woke" approach to trans people, however. He's a conservative guy, but that's it.

[Vegita-San]

You've misread whatever you've been reading. They have not taken power, they have won the most votes in the state elections of Saxony-Anhalt (a sparsely populated state in the east) yesterday. Since they don't have a majority and other parties refuse to work with them, it remains to be seen what this win will mean for the state.
Think of them as Germany's Republicans. And by Republicans, I mean modern day Republicans, not 1980s Republicans. Deportation, anti-immigration, pro-Russia, ties to Neo-Nazi groups etc.


International and national media are going nuts over this because it's the AfD's biggest win yet but it is not without precedent in the last couple of years.


so, the good guys. no maga republicans like neo nazis. stop watching cnn.

[Vegita-San]

What makes the ME so unstable nowadays? It all goes back to the Treaty or Versailles. And ofc the creation of the state of Israel didn't help matters either.

islam. when you have insane people with power and money, was is inevitable.

Saw a islam woman toss a dog into a raging river because dogs are 'haram'. religion is a blight on the world.

[Prowler]

islam. when you have insane people with power and money, was is inevitable.

Saw a islam woman toss a dog into a raging river because dogs are 'haram'. religion is a blight on the world.

You're replying to a post I made in 2017, for the record. :)

I still maintain the same opinion, more or less. But there's also Saudi Arabia supporting Wahhabism, although I don't think they do it that much anymore? But they're also bombing Yemen. As for UAE, I believe they're also involved in that, plus Sudan, which is in Africa and not the ME.

As for Israel, its creation angered a ton of Muslims, as we all know. But we shouldn't scapegoat it as the culprit of all issues in hat hornet's nest.

[Vegita-San]

simply breathing angers them.


vlad the impaler had the right idea.

[Prowler]

simply breathing angers them.


vlad the impaler had the right idea.

Wallachia, which is Romania nowadays, borders the Balkans. The Balkans definitely don't miss Ottoman rule.

Funny story time: I once asked a Romanian of Hungarian ancestry what he thought of Vlad the Impaler, and he said: "Ah Vlad was not a bad man. He just liked to impale people." :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Vlad is still a hero to this day in Romania. This is not a secret.

[Prowler]

Vlad is still a hero to this day in Romania. This is not a secret.

Wait until you see how much Mongolians revere Genghis Khan.

[Andrew NDB]

And by Republicans, I mean modern day Republicans, not 1980s Republicans. Deportation, anti-immigration, pro-Russia, ties to Neo-Nazi groups etc.

Wait, there were no deportations and anti-illegal immigration sentiment in the 80s amongst Republicans? That wasn't even something you'd hear any debate about on the news because both the Republicans and Democrats were pretty united on it. And I wouldn't say Republicans are any more pro- or anti- Russia than they were in the 80s, minus the threat of the Cold War back then. If Russia plays nice then we play nice.

So that just leaves these tenuous "ties to Neo-Nazi groups" in this "Far Right" party in Germany, I guess? To explain how they're "Far Right"?

[Barkworm]

Andrew, I know you have this obsession that people should call right wing radicals "conservatives" because you don't like to be called a radical. But instead of going for terms that don't apply to you and other supporters of the Republicans, just embrace it. That's what has been going on on a worldwide scale anyway.

The German Federal Office for Protection of the Constitution (that's a thing here) has classified several branches of this party as "right-wing extremist" based on party goals that don't fit our constitution or are believed to undermine our democracy. So that's an official classification. Just like in the US, this sort of classification seems to make people vote for these radicals all the more so there's that.

[Andrew NDB]

I wish you'd just posted the second paragraph, though I get it. But thank you for the clarification.

In that case I am more mad at our own media in the US for latching onto "far right" stuff when discussing your country as if it means exactly the same thing in ours. Which is nothing. Not "essentially" nothing, but nothing at all.

[Barkworm]

I wish you'd just posted the second paragraph, though I get it
Why exactly? It wasn't even meant as an insult or anything. People on the left are sometimes called radicals for supporting social security or a two-state solution in Israel. Whatever. Let's all be radicals!


In that case I am more mad at our own media in the US for latching onto "far right" stuff when discussing your country as if it means exactly the same thing in ours. Which is nothing. Not "essentially" nothing, but nothing at all.
Again, Republicans and the AfD are basically the same. There's a reason why Trump and Vance have been supporting them for a while now.

[Andrew NDB]

Why exactly? It wasn't even meant as an insult or anything. People on the left are sometimes called radicals for supporting social security or a two-state solution in Israel. Whatever. Let's all be radicals!

I understand. But no, let's not. Let's be normal human beings. No "Far" anything unless it is justified. Which I guess in terms of your particular country if those are the parameters then OK. But in my country... the parameters have become nonsense. Particularly even in your comparison to us in the 80s, when stuff like "Should illegal immigrants be illegal?" being asked in said 80s or even 90s or even 2000s would have been a resounding "YES! Get'em out!" By both parties. Literally, it was never a question at all until maybe around the 2010s. Now it's like a "Are you on the LEFT or RIGHT?" litmus test. Which is ridiculous.

[Barkworm]

Rhetorics and methods make all the difference.

[Vegita-San]

Why exactly? It wasn't even meant as an insult or anything. People on the left are sometimes called radicals for supporting social security or a two-state solution in Israel. Whatever. Let's all be radicals!


Again, Republicans and the AfD are basically the same. There's a reason why Trump and Vance have been supporting them for a while now.

I know you are classically anti trump and left leaning, but trump doesn't associate with neo nazis

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I know you are classically anti trump and left leaning, but trump doesn't associate with neo nazis

Trump doesn't associate with Neo-Nazis larping as a German movement that died in 1945, that's true.

But he does associate with Zionist Nazis today who are carrying out a Genocide in the name of Jewish Racial Supremacy.

[Vegita-San]

Trump doesn't associate with Neo-Nazis larping as a German movement that died in 1945, that's true.

But he does associate with Zionist Nazis today who are carrying out a Genocide in the name of Jewish Racial Supremacy.

when you live next to maniacs who think everything is 'haram'....once again, vlad had the right idea.

[Barkworm]

when you live next to maniacs who think everything is 'haram'....once again, vlad had the right idea.
As usual, you don't have any grasp of what you are talking about but you calling for mass murder (however witty you think you framed it) has happened for the last time here.

[Vegita-San]

when I See such an emotional response, I know I'm on the right track.

if you think the 'gazans' are so correct in their ways, live with them and among them for a while.

and make sure to say hi to the queers for palestine group as they are being lead to the tallest building.

FYI, I'm also an atheist. I hate ALL organized religion... I'm no fan of Judaism or Christianity, either.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

when I See such an emotional response, I know I'm on the right track.

if you think the 'gazans' are so correct in their ways, live with them and among them for a while.

and make sure to say hi to the queers for palestine group as they are being lead to the tallest building.

FYI, I'm also an atheist. I hate ALL organized religion... I'm no fan of Judaism or Christianity, either.

Palestinians are lovely people, the one's who I've met.

On topic though, calling for mass murder deserves an emotional response.

It's not normal to remain stoic in the face of saying Palestinians deserve the Vlad treatment.

[Barkworm]

when I See such an emotional response, I know I'm on the right track.

if you think the 'gazans' are so correct in their ways, live with them and among them for a while.

I'm not emotional. But intrigued! Apparently you have lots of experience with Gazans. Then please share what you have experienced that makes you condone murdering them. We heard the dog story (which you eye-witnessed I assume and didn't see on TikTok) which is terrible but maybe not enough for straight out genocide.

[Vegita-San]

Palestinians are lovely people, the one's who I've met.

On topic though, calling for mass murder deserves an emotional response.

It's not normal to remain stoic in the face of saying Palestinians deserve the Vlad treatment.

if they practice islam, then they are secretly smiling while plotting your demise.

look at mamdami, the first communist islamic mayor of nyc. he smiles at the press, and gives people 'free' things. then, in secret, goes to meetings where they shout 'death to america' and poses with photos with people who bomb twin towers. the number one rule in islam is lie to gain entry.

[Vegita-San]

I'm not emotional. But intrigued! Apparently you have lots of experience with Gazans. Then please share what you have experienced that makes you condone murdering them. We heard the dog story (which you eye-witnessed I assume and didn't see on TikTok) which is terrible but maybe not enough for straight out genocide.

it's called watching the news.

Apparently, you havn't seen them invade NYC by having a 'muslim call to prayer' right in the middle of times square. please note, they do not do this in their home area. they consider it rude. they only do it in places they invade, in order to assert dominance. hence, the muslim call to prayer 'song' blasting on speakers at 5AM in the morning.

but, looks like germany has it's own worries..

https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand
(https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand)

[Autbot_Benz]

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look at mamdami, the first communist islamic mayor of nyc. he smiles at the press, and gives people 'free' things. then, in secret, goes to meetings where they shout 'death to america' and poses with photos with people who bomb twin towers. the number one rule in islam is lie to gain entry.

You got any proof of this and by proof not right wing /alt right news drivel :roll:

[Barkworm]

it's called watching the news.

Apparently, you havn't seen them invade NYC by having a 'muslim call to prayer' right in the middle of times square. please note, they do not do this in their home area. they consider it rude. they only do it in places they invade, in order to assert dominance. hence, the muslim call to prayer 'song' blasting on speakers at 5AM in the morning.

but, looks like germany has it's own worries..

https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand
(https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand)
Did you even read that article? Don't play the "Get educated!"-card with me. I own that card.

[CyberCubed]

it's called watching the news.

Apparently, you havn't seen them invade NYC by having a 'muslim call to prayer' right in the middle of times square. please note, they do not do this in their home area. they consider it rude. they only do it in places they invade, in order to assert dominance. hence, the muslim call to prayer 'song' blasting on speakers at 5AM in the morning.

but, looks like germany has it's own worries..

https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand
(https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/why-islam-and-germany-go-hand-hand)

LOL, I live in New York, and I haven't seen any "muslims take over."

Vegita-san is saying some crazy disturbing things here. You sound like you get all your opinions from Fox News. Also thinly concealed racism and siding with Putin and suggesting genocide.

I didn't know stuff like that was allowed here.

[Barkworm]

It's not. If he keeps it up, he's done.

[ZariusTwo]

Nobody should wish death on anyone for colour, race or religion, this place isn't perfect, but it sure as hell isn't /pol/ either.

[Barkworm]

Nobody should wish death on anyone for colour, race or religion, this place isn't perfect, but it sure as hell isn't /pol/ either.
It's absolutely disgusting. Any sane person would be ashamed of themselves.

[Vegita-San]

You got any proof of this and by proof not right wing /alt right news drivel :roll:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVKc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_pro gressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdfb4836 d-eb2b-4333-bbe0-9b71e5d9ef24_675x900.jpeg

I don't watch fox news. I watch youtube for the truth.

You also apparently didn't see him and AOC smiling and laughing as the 9/11 names where being read.

islam is an invading army that needs to be stopped. they've already taken over things like the church of england. they don't want to co exist, they want to conquer.

and the left leaning people of the world who hate trump have decided it's best to make a deal with the devil.



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbISjV_N-52/?hl=en

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I watch youtube for the truth.

Wow. I don't know how you can say this with a straight face.

I'm sorry to everyone here who saw me saying I support Trump at one point in time.

I wanted Kamala to lose for supporting a Genocide, but I never should've said that I supported Trump.

I was wrong. What you've said and believe is the end result of the Trump Cult, and I want no part of it.

[Vegita-San]

how did I know that would be the reply?

New media is taking over, my friend. nick Shirley alone exposed many a fraud in a months time, that the media didn't even touch. 'The Learing Center' was a wealth of laughs.


If one supports islam, one does not want to be a part of the modern world, and is stuck in the dark ages. it's not a religion, it's a hate doctrine. against EVERYONE.

NYC also didn't forget about 9/11. they've slowly been replaced over time. that's how NYC got it's first communist mayor. and you'll notice that I'm just focusing on islam itself.

[Mayhem]

they've already taken over things like the church of england.
They haven’t. I’m here, I would see.

If you mean the fact King Charles entertained religious leaders and visited a mosque, while he is the head of the Church of England, he is also the ruler and represents everyone in the country, unlike a certain dementia ridden orange cankles mctacotits.. This does not preclude him from experiencing other faiths. Technically he wasn’t supposed to remarry, but he did it anyhow.

[Vegita-San]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSlir00WwAAqCk1?format=jpg&name=900x900

nope, I was talking about this rather disturbing image in particular.

How they had to take back an award for obvious reasons.

[sdp]

new media? this isn't 2010 :lol: who even uses the term new media anymore, it's been like more than ten years.

Also who says "I watch youtube", that's like saying "I watch TV", it's generic, there are thousands of channels, boomers don't get this.

[Vegita-San]

new media? this isn't 2010 :lol: who even uses the term new media anymore, it's been like more than ten years.

Also who says "I watch youtube", that's like saying "I watch TV", it's generic, there are thousands of channels, boomers don't get this.

I have a few dozen channels on my bookmarked list.
including everyone's favorite 'ClownFishTV', who, by the way, isn't right leaning.

[Andrew NDB]

I wanted Kamala to lose for supporting a Genocide,

Holy sh**... I never liked Kamala, but I never realized she supported Hamas. Is this true?

[Vegita-San]

Holy sh**... I never liked Kamala, but I never realized she supported Hamas. Is this true?

it wouldn't surprise me.

I've tried to block all details about 'The Cackler' from my memory. so nothing springs to mind at the moment.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Holy sh**... I never liked Kamala, but I never realized she supported Hamas. Is this true?

You're a Gaza Genocide Denier.

If it was Holocaust Denial, it would've been an instant ban.

But Denying Israel's Genocide is not bannable, it seems.

[Vegita-San]

You're a Gaza Genocide Denier.

If it was Holocaust Denial, it would've been an instant ban.

But Denying Israel's Genocide is not bannable, it seems.


most mods tend to lean left(and not just on this sit, across all sites). lefties tend to support things like hamas these days.

as for Isreal, I'm no fan of netenyahoo. that guy needs to go. but, it should be pretty easy to see who attacked first and for what reason.

Although in this case, they've been fighting this battle for so freakin' long, I doubt they care what started it at this point. each wants the other gone at this point.

[Andrew NDB]

But Denying Israel's Genocide is not bannable, it seems.

Or is pretending it is real based within the realm of reality. Though if it was true it'd be literally the worst-constructed, most lame-brained and lazy "genocide" world history has ever seen.

as for Isreal, I'm no fan of netenyahoo. that guy needs to go. but, it should be pretty easy to see who attacked first and for what reason.

Although in this case, they've been fighting this battle for so freakin' long, I doubt they care what started it at this point. each wants the other gone at this point.

Though its true what they say. "What would happen if Hamas threw down their weapons tomorrow?" There would be peace. "What would happen if the Israelis threw down their weapons tomorrow?" They'd be wiped out within a week, and everyone knows it. So it's not quite "even stevens."

[Vegita-San]

Though its true what they say. "What would happen if Hamas threw down their weapons tomorrow?" There would be peace. "What would happen if the Israelis threw down their weapons tomorrow?" They'd be wiped out within a week, and everyone knows it. So it's not quite "even stevens."

as I said before, if you live next to maniacs, it's either wipe them out, or be wiped out. they do not want to compromise.

although I feel like netenyahu might be too fond of war these days and would continue to push.

[Andrew NDB]

although I feel like netenyahu might be too fond of war these days and would continue to push.

Maybe, but even if he were to step down tomorrow even the people on his "left" who might stand to take his place are mostly upset that he isn't doing MORE with Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis and all of that stuff.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Or is pretending it is real based within the realm of reality. Though if it was true it'd be literally the worst-constructed, most lame-brained and lazy "genocide" world history has ever seen.

as I said before, if you live next to maniacs, it's either wipe them out, or be wiped out. they do not want to compromise.

Disgusting. One denies a Genocide, and the other actively advocates for it.

Both of you should be banned.

[CyberCubed]

https://img.memerial.net/587/whats-going-on-in-this-thr.jpg

[ToTheNines]

Woooo! The Inceldrome is Inceldroming tonight, baby!

[Andrew NDB]

and the other actively advocates for it.

Hamas is not a race, last time I checked. It's a literal terrorist organization.

[Vegita-San]

Hamas is not a race, last time I checked. It's a literal terrorist organization.

I love facts.

part of what makes trumps america great :).

[sdp]

emergency thread theme:
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[FredWolfLeonardo]

Hamas is not a race, last time I checked. It's a literal terrorist organization.

Just stop.

You know very well what Vegita means when he said that all maniacs should be wiped out. You can't hide behind "they are Hamas". Vegita himself scapegoats anyone who practices Islam, which is almost all of Gaza.

Words have consequences, this kind of rhetoric contributes to Israel justifying the deaths of Tens of Thousands of Women and Children under "but Hamas".

[Andrew NDB]

Just stop.

You know very well what Vegita means when he said that all maniacs should be wiped out. You can't hide behind "they are Hamas". Vegita himself scapegoats anyone who practices Islam, which is almost all of Gaza.

Words have consequences, this kind of rhetoric contributes to Israel justifying the deaths of Tens of Thousands of Women and Children under "but Hamas".

You're not a very good gaslighter. You should probably stop trying to be.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You're not a very good gaslighter. You should probably stop trying to be.

You're just trying to get banned at this point.

[sdp]

you defend him but he's made comments like that about latinos in the past as well which you are :tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

You're just trying to get banned at this point.

For what? Are you trying to imagine up more crimes now, while you're at it? I guess since you're starting big you are working your way down to small now.

I have no quibbles with people who feel sorry for the people of Gaza but pretending there is a genocide there is neither supported by the definition of the word, common sense, or anyone outside of leftist media pundits, some celebrities and generally just nihilist types who want to see stuff torn down (or, you know, people who just really don't like Jewish people). There is nothing even close to this consensus you've dreamed up, no matter what Katy Perry or Billie Eilish might say on stage that you've heard in your tiny little bubble.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It's so obvious who made which Tags :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

It's so obvious who made which Tags :lol:

You're not wrong. I can identify exactly who posted each two.

It's fine, though. All in good fun.

[CyberCubed]

Criminals will pay for their crimes.

[Barkworm]

Okay guys, sorry. This was as terrible as usual.