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Misfit
10-29-2003, 06:28 PM
In the first TMNT, why is it that Raph's the one who's beaten to near-death by the Foot instead of Leo? It's always Leo who's beaten in every other version of that story, IE the comic and the new cartoon. Anyone know why they changed it and used Raph for that plot instead in the first movie? Thats something I've been pondering on for a while.
Reznorite420
10-29-2003, 06:42 PM
I'm guessing because Raph in that movie was the one who went into a tantrum and decided to leave instead of Leo? Also because if Leo was the one to go, it might have lost some effect with the kids watching it (would've been TOO tragic for them to watch at the time to see the leader get almost killed instead of another character).
Nturtle
10-29-2003, 07:13 PM
Yeah, they decided to develop Raph's character the most in the movie, so I gues thats why they had him pummeled to near death
Kid Icarus
10-29-2003, 10:23 PM
Yeah, they decided to develop Raph's character the most in the movie, so I gues thats why they had him pummeled to near death The price to pay for emotional growth :lol:
Oroku Nagi
10-30-2003, 01:31 AM
Indeed, Raph seemed to be the focus on the first movie more than the others, at least in the first half. In the beginning with the loss of the sai and the cursing, then his meeting April and Casey and bringing them into the Turtles world, his one on one with Splinter, and finally being beaten near to death and his recovery.
Tetsu Deinonychus
10-30-2003, 02:34 AM
I've noticed the TMNT movie Rap-song called Raphael "The Leader of the Group" when that's suppossed to be Leonardo.
Deathknight
10-30-2003, 09:07 AM
That was just because the singer was retarded, there was a topic about that a loooooooong time ago.
Reznorite420
10-30-2003, 11:01 AM
I've noticed the TMNT movie Rap-song called Raphael "The Leader of the Group" when that's suppossed to be Leonardo.I thought we went over this a long time ago...it's not referring to the turtles in the song, but SPLINTER!
"Splinter's the teacher and they are the students
(Leonardo Michelangelo, and Donatello...make up the team with other fella Raphael)
He's the leader of the group...."
The parentheses make all the difference there.
Bowser_Koopa
10-30-2003, 01:23 PM
no seriosuly, what moron, making songs about things he doesn't know about :x
Savanti Romero
11-02-2003, 06:04 PM
Raphael is the best Turtle so that's why he got the most focus! :D
Raphael is the best Turtle so that's why he got the most focus! :D
*cracks up at the joke* :D
Bowser_Koopa
11-03-2003, 07:55 AM
who says is a joke? ¬.¬ :roll:
J Legault
11-03-2003, 09:21 AM
I notice that Raph blames for himself in the movies. His charater is hot-head. Yeah the movie staff did focus on Raph a little too much. But atleast a good number of people like the first movie.
Savanti Romero
11-03-2003, 03:01 PM
I notice that Raph blames for himself in the movies. His charater is hot-head. Yeah the movie staff did focus on Raph a little too much. But atleast a good number of people like the first movie.
Focusing on Raph too much? Is that posseble? :D
Stone Ill
11-03-2003, 03:05 PM
Yes.
Bowser_Koopa
11-03-2003, 03:06 PM
its never too much :roll:
Machias Banshee
11-03-2003, 06:11 PM
I thought we went over this a long time ago...it's not referring to the turtles in the song, but SPLINTER!
"Splinter's the teacher and they are the students
(Leonardo Michelangelo, and Donatello...make up the team with other fella Raphael)
He's the leader of the group...."
The parentheses make all the difference there.
Ahh, I thank ye, Rez, I had not known that lil tidbit of information... :D I'd also always thought it was a typo. Now I can listen and be content....
RskimB
11-03-2003, 06:17 PM
I have a question about the 1st movie too but i'm too lazy too make a thread for it.
When the turtles are celebrating on the rooftop after Casey and April kiss what is it that Raph said the first time? It sounded like mitchin? or $itchin or something, not sure.
Stone Ill
11-03-2003, 07:13 PM
What's Sitchin?
Savanti Romero
11-03-2003, 07:17 PM
Yes.
Oh yeah right! :D
Misfit
11-03-2003, 09:10 PM
I have a question about the 1st movie too but i'm too lazy too make a thread for it.
When the turtles are celebrating on the rooftop after Casey and April kiss what is it that Raph said the first time? It sounded like mitchin? or $itchin or something, not sure.
He said Bitchin'.
Buslady
11-03-2003, 09:45 PM
Cause it made a good story. Heh...
I think it fits more, Raph stomping off the ngetting his butt kicked, it just seemed right than Leo.
Buslady
11-03-2003, 09:48 PM
I notice that Raph blames for himself in the movies. His charater is hot-head. Yeah the movie staff did focus on Raph a little too much. But atleast a good number of people like the first movie.
Focusing on Raph too much? Is that posseble? :D
Nope. Not at all, I wanted MORE Raph.
Bowser_Koopa
11-03-2003, 09:51 PM
i just tought the very same thing, what? there are 3 other turtles? :D
donnyman444
11-03-2003, 10:26 PM
don is obviously the best turtle
he fights just as good as the rest
he makes the best jokes
and hes way smarter thean the rest
J Legault
11-03-2003, 11:16 PM
Raph was the only turtle who wore the trench coat.
Passenger: What the heck was that?
Taxi Driver: It sorta look like a big turtle in a Trench coat.
RskimB
11-04-2003, 03:50 PM
thanks. I always thought it was but could never be absolutely sure.
tmntpower2003
11-04-2003, 04:51 PM
Raph was easier to identify w/ because he was a hot headed teenage rebel. We all like rebels cause they are hard asses. I noticed w/ the new show and generations the kids favorites have been Leo and Don....maybe a reflection on todays society :-? but what happened to the good old rebel being the coolest?
RskimB
11-04-2003, 05:00 PM
I notice that Raph blames for himself in the movies. His charater is hot-head. Yeah the movie staff did focus on Raph a little too much. But atleast a good number of people like the first movie.
Focusing on Raph too much? Is that posseble? :D
Nope. Not at all, I wanted MORE Raph.
Here here!
J Legault
11-04-2003, 05:22 PM
I notice that Raph blames for himself in the movies. His charater is hot-head. Yeah the movie staff did focus on Raph a little too much. But atleast a good number of people like the first movie.
Focusing on Raph too much? Is that posseble? :D
Nope. Not at all, I wanted MORE Raph.
Here here!
Never or less Raph was my favorite turtle anyway. I'm surprise alot of people like me like Raph so much. :o
Bowser_Koopa
11-04-2003, 05:36 PM
don is obviously the best turtle
he fights just as good as the rest
he makes the best jokes
and hes way smarter thean the rest
"don: Bossanova!!
Leo:bossanova?
don: ...chevynova....EXELLENT!!!!"
well it was something like that...he makes good jokes :)
RskimB
11-04-2003, 07:24 PM
Don was really funny in the 1st movie
Buslady
11-04-2003, 09:24 PM
Don was really funny in the 1st movie
yeah he was funny in 1, he was still cool in 2 but I liked Corey's voice as Don better. I missed Don's goofy jokes in 2, but I thought it was cool they added his little trait of using a pool cue thingy on the bo, like just before he whacks those 2 foot goons when they were rescueing Raphers.
don is obviously the best turtle
he fights just as good as the rest
he makes the best jokes
and hes way smarter thean the restDon sucks compared to the others
J Legault
11-05-2003, 09:08 AM
I thought Don was good in the movie. He's the smartest of the group and he tries to say a cool quote.
Notice his voice was pinching in Movie 1, then in Movie 2 his voice was more normal, Movie 3 his voice was back to pinching.
Different voice changes I can tell.
Meira-Bates
11-05-2003, 09:33 AM
don is obviously the best turtle
he fights just as good as the rest
he makes the best jokes
and hes way smarter thean the restDon sucks compared to the others
*tsks Duke and Donnyman444* Hey now....no turtle dissin'! -.- Though I have to say, while Donny is my fave, I wouldn't say he's the best turtle. I wouldn't say /any/ turtle is the best turtle. I have faves, but I don't see them as being better than the others, just what I see as more like able.
Misfit
11-05-2003, 11:26 AM
Aw man, that's harsh. Poor Don.
Donnie's pretty cool, if it weren't for him the turtles wouldn't have all those super cool techno gadgets and as others have already said, he can be funny. His double at with Mikey in the first movie was great.
J Legault
11-05-2003, 10:13 PM
Don did do a few good parts in the movie like him and Casey discussing about Gilgan's Island and don acusing Casey a Claustrophoic.
RskimB
11-06-2003, 01:13 PM
my sig! :D
Anarchistguy
11-06-2003, 01:49 PM
Donatello's moves in the first movie KICKED ASS since Ernie Reyes Jr. (Keno) did the fighting double the Don costume. Raph and Leo's moves were good too but Mikey's moves, besides when he used the nunchaku kinda sucked.
(I'm talking about the first movie, here)
HorseTechie
11-06-2003, 07:26 PM
Don was really funny in the 1st movie
yeah he was funny in 1, he was still cool in 2 but I liked Corey's voice as Don better. I missed Don's goofy jokes in 2, but I thought it was cool they added his little trait of using a pool cue thingy on the bo, like just before he whacks those 2 foot goons when they were rescueing Raphers.
Yeah.. Don was more natural as himself in the first movie. At least I thought so. In the second and third. it felt like the script writers were trying to hard making him funny.. and all the original charm was lost to me.
I think the only time he did seem real in TMNT2, was when Don was all upset about the fact that they were really just an 'accident'.
Leo656
11-06-2003, 08:03 PM
I never felt sorry for him. I was an accident too, never bothered me...
Course, when my Dad told me that my mom didn't speak to him for a week. So maybe it bothered HER...
But if about 70% of the world's population were conceived "by surprise", why should the TMNT be any different? I didn't see what there was to be upset about. Your "higher purpose" in life is what YOU make of it, not what destiny defines for you. I'd figure Don of all "people" would understand that.
Misfit
11-07-2003, 06:40 PM
Don did do a few good parts in the movie like him and Casey discussing about Gilgan's Island and don acusing Casey a Claustrophoic. Yeah I loved those moments. Casey's reaction to Don calling him a Claustrophobic still makes me laugh every time.
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