[Rise of the TMNT] Who has your favorite (or least favorite) character design? [Archive]

Papenbrook

03-19-2018, 02:31 PM

As I've examined all of the artwork that have been unveiled so far, I've noticed that I can't really decide which character has, in my opinion, the best overall character design, as they all have certain aspects that look visually unappealing, at least to me.

However, out of all the characters, the character with my least favorite design is ...

Whenever I look at Donnie's swollen cranium or Leo's red marks, it unsettles me.

*My apologies, Mr. Suriano, but I must confess.*

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Leonardo_Charcter_Art.jpg

Um ... WHAT?!

I agree with the part in bold. Leo's red marks (above his eyes, yet under his mask) make him look mysteriously mischievous. He looks like someone who's out to do heinous deeds.

That's somewhat ... disturbing, at least to me. o_o

Maybe it's because of his head shape (pointy on the top, angled at the bottom), but I find Leonardo's overall facial structure to be extremely jarring to look at. He has the face of a creepy jester/ clown. (Although, his default expression [a smirk] may be the underlying cause of that.) It ... just doesn't look pleasant to me. I'm sorry.

Hopefully, it'll get rounded out in the future.

Sorry. I just don't like his design. :(

In your opinion, who has your favorite (or least favorite) character design?

Discuss your thoughts and opinions below.

Vicky82

03-19-2018, 02:35 PM

In order

Favourite design is Mikey, he just looks a mix of 2k3 Mikey and Nick Mikey.

Then it's

April
Leo
Raph
Donnie

Least favourite design is Splinter.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

03-19-2018, 02:37 PM

Donatello.

Stop with the "weak nerd turtle with glasses" crap.

FredWolfLeonardo

03-19-2018, 02:40 PM

My most to least favourites are:

Raph
Mikey/Donnie (tied)
Splinter
April
Leonardo

I don't think Leos design is bad by any means, but I agree that he is a bit too lanky/angular looking and the combination of his red marks and creepy expression doesn't help things.

Rise Raph I absolutely love. His design and voice keep on reminding me of Maui from Moana for some strange reason :lol:

Aaronardo

03-19-2018, 02:51 PM

Mikey looks pretty good from certain angles, but Raph probably has my favorite overall design.

Whoever decided that design for Donnie needs to be slapped at least twice. All the tech bull all over his back didn't look good at all in Bayturtles, why would it look good now? And the swollen head... just, what a disaster.

newfan

03-19-2018, 03:10 PM

Mikey is my most liked design.
Splinter is the least, the angry expression he was pulling on that image didn't help him, will have to see a calmer face.

As for comments I've seen on Donnie's head shape, I do look at it and think it's missing a bolt, sorry, I'm not trying to troll, but that comes to mind when I look at the shape.

CyberCubed

03-19-2018, 03:50 PM

Probably Splinter.

Donatello.

Stop with the "weak nerd turtle with glasses" crap.

But...Don's not wearing glasses. He has goggles, but those are the same things 2k3 Don wore in a lot of episodes.

Xiewin

03-19-2018, 03:57 PM

Leo
Mikey
Raph
Donnie.

I like them all, except for Donnie. Why is his head shaped like a box? And he has too much tech, goggles are fine but why make his entire shell electronic?

And Raphael would be higher on this list if it wasn't for his enormous size. He's bigger than all his brothers combined.

IndigoErth

03-19-2018, 03:59 PM

Worst... Splinter is a given. (Christ what the heck happened there. Is this the Yoshi who was mutated with a mix of rat and candle wax? He mutated then immediately half melted?)

No best... others are just some improvement over Splinter to some degree or another.

Powder

03-19-2018, 04:04 PM

Not sure whose look I like best. There are new qualities about each that appeal to me. Maybe I lean ever so slightly in Raph's favor? I can't say for sure.

Donnie is definitely the worst, for me. Long dome, eyebrows, tech-junk, bleh. I really like the others, though!

If you mean overall rather than just between the 4 turtles, April either ties with or surpasses Donnie. Mostly for her hair/glasses, which I wish they'd have picked different styles for, & the fact she's bat-wielding now (that counts as part of the design in my book).

neatoman

03-19-2018, 05:40 PM

I'm fine with how April, Meat Sweats, Leo and Mikey look. Donnie, Raph, Splinter and Draxum look a little too weird.

I actually have somewhat mixed feelings on Splinter to be honest. I like that he's back to being short and grey. However, I don't like the flat face and I don't get why he's fat, did they want to combine him with the ancient one? It does kinda look like a mash-up of the two.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xD58FN8IxMo/hqdefault.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/9/90/Splinterbtts.png/revision/latest?cb=20130624195821
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/d/da/Rise_splinter.png/revision/latest?cb=20180201091918

And I'm not really a fan of the top knot returning from the PD movies. Same issue I have with Raph and Don, I don't want to be reminded of OotS.

IndigoErth

03-19-2018, 06:27 PM

The difference between those two versions... :ohwell:

It's like Splinter 25 years later, having given up on the training and become out of shape, and is presently suffering from a case of rabies they naturally lack any ability to cure. (So the Turtles keep him locked out once it progresses and fear for the lives. Until he croaks from it. edit: Actually that would make a fun TMNT horror story. lol Cujo meets The Shining, plus martial arts. )

Wildcat

03-20-2018, 12:19 AM

Least would be Don for the same reason of the head which I mentioned when they were first revealed.

I don’t hate it overall. It’s just the head looks too much like Frankenstein’s monster. If they brought it a tad down it would make a huge difference.

I like all of them. The Don thing is just one minor flaw. Which probably wasn’t intentional. Just made it a bit too tall/square.

Shellington

03-20-2018, 01:48 PM

For me the worst esigns are Leo, Donnie and Splinter.

Leo for his red marks, Splinter for his nonathletic look and Donnie for his swollen skull.

(Ironically, I enjoy Donnie carrying his tech/goggles with him.)

neatoman

03-20-2018, 02:50 PM

Donnie for his swollen skull.

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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

03-20-2018, 03:36 PM

Splinter is the worst (yet).

TheJ-manTurtleMan

03-21-2018, 12:17 AM

Donatello is the least appealing to me. Don't care for his weird looking head. I love Leo's design though, he looks smarmy and sarcastic, and with Ben Schwartz voicing him, I'm sure he will be. I also love his red eye marks, all the turtles seem to have natural marks on them which I like.

Papenbrook

03-21-2018, 04:29 AM

I don't know. Donatello's head appears to resemble a rectangle, not a square ...

Rooish

03-22-2018, 08:49 PM

I like Donatello's outfit, but there is something very wrong with his face.

Mikey's design is the least offensive?

And April is fine.

KillCrites

03-23-2018, 05:58 AM

I really have no problem with Donatello tbh, besides his huge eyebrows he has for some reason. My favorite is Leo and my least favorite is Splinter, but I'm sure even his design will grow on me after we see him in action.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

03-23-2018, 06:04 AM

Coola Yagami

03-28-2018, 09:34 AM

I just noticed Mikey has like... pizza tattoos and other weird nonsense all over his shell and plastron. Overkill much?

I'm indifferent to all the designs but accept it as just a brand new show and take on the characters. It's not the classic characters, and it's not meant to be.

Between the Bay films and this one I don't want future creators to think the turtles don't work unless they have tons of extra crap all over them. The fact they're murated turtles that can fight and exist in a normal human world should be all the gimmick you need.

Papenbrook

03-28-2018, 10:54 AM

Well, I've seen the teaser, and let me just say, I ... still don't like Leonardo's design. I don't like it at all.

In fact, I think his design looks even worse in animation. I don't know how to accurately describe it, so I'll just say this:

"When it's in motion, it tends to look somewhat inconsistent and sloppy. Consequently, it has an uncanny feel to it."

That's all I can really say, at least at the moment.

Chris

03-30-2018, 11:32 PM

From favourite to least;

Mikey
Leo
April (not fond of her hair style or glasses but overall ok)
Raph
Don
Splinter

Leonardo2003

03-31-2018, 04:09 PM

My Top 3:
Donnie
Raph
Leo

Two worst are definitely splinter and Mikey.

CyberCubed

03-31-2018, 04:11 PM

Leo, Mike and Don all look fine to me. Raph is a little too big for my taste but I might get used to it as I see him in motion. Splinter is the worst though.

shihe

04-01-2018, 11:39 AM

LOVE
April
Leo

LIKE
Mikey
Meatsweats
Origami Ninja

GETTING USED TO...
Donatello
Raphael
Baron D.

DISLIKE
Splinter

Xiewin

04-01-2018, 12:31 PM

After seeing the teaser a few more times, I actually really like all of them, with Raph and Leo being my favorites.

ninjawolf10

04-02-2018, 02:12 PM

I think Mike's design is probably the best with Leo coming second.

Raph looks too big to me in comparison to the others, and like others have said Donnie has a very square head.

Splinter looks like someone stood on him, and the top knot is awful. I'm kind of sad really, cause he's my favourite. I don't get why it's hard to make him look decent :tcry:

2003 was the ultimate for me, but I didn't mind the 2012 look either. Hopefully they'll grow on me...

Papenbrook

04-02-2018, 09:27 PM

Yeesh ...

https://78.media.tumblr.com/be90be8bd1473f9eef018a94a626e0d8/tumblr_p62slxTvjs1wr7h21o5_1280.png

I hope that the animation will be smoothed out.

Powder

04-02-2018, 10:14 PM

Are you just complaining about the buffering on your PC? :tlol:

IndigoErth

04-02-2018, 10:45 PM

Yeesh ...

https://78.media.tumblr.com/be90be8bd1473f9eef018a94a626e0d8/tumblr_p62slxTvjs1wr7h21o5_1280.png

I hope that the animation will be smoothed out.
You know you want a piece of that... Like several seasons worth. :trazz:

Mostly I'm just laughing at Raph in that image. It's like he got run through a Photoshop filter that just turned him into simplified shapes. Moved the intensity a little too far to the right.

Papenbrook

04-03-2018, 07:41 PM

Regarding Splinter's character design, it appears that someone has voiced a few complaints about it.

Why Does Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Dip Into Racist Asian Stereotypes?

Posted by Brett

Nickelodeon‘s new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series, Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, has come under criticism for numerous reasons: changes to the dynamic of the Turtles, the stylized look of the series, and drastic difference in the Turtles’ depictions. I have no opinion, nor really care about all of that. Beyond all of that, the thing that stood out to me about the brand new trailer is the use of the Fu Manchu/Yellow Peril stereotype in the character of Splinter.

In the first official teaser released Friday, we get a look at what we can expect from the series and a better idea of the characters. We also get a look at Splinter who, with his “slanted/slit” eyes, buck teeth, and delivery of lines, is hard to not see a racist Asian stereotype. There’s even a top knot!

This ethnic stereotype (which has no place in a kids show, let alone modern society) has its roots in “Yellow Peril”, Western imperialism, racism, and led to exclusionary laws enacted against immigrants here in the United States. In entertainment, it's common and popularized in characters such as Fu Manchu and Charlie Chan, both of which tread in stereotypical looks that still persist today. One scratches their head and wonders why the creators of this show thought it was appropriate in 2018.

While there are movements and individuals fighting for better representation of Asians in entertainment, to see a kids’ animated show perpetuate this hurtful imagery for a new generation is not only misguided - it's downright regressive and has no place on television, let alone Nickelodeon, which has had a history of excellent children’s programming.

You can watch the video below and see the problematic speech patterns at the 44 second mark and 53 second mark.

Click for the source. (https://graphicpolicy.com/2018/03/24/why-does-rise-of-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-dip-into-racist-asian-stereotypes/)

Personally, I can understand what this individual was conveying, and I can empathize what this individual was venting.

Their concerns are valid. I hope that the creators take their time and consider possible unfortunate implications that they might depict within their work.

Powder

04-03-2018, 08:20 PM

I appreciate where this Well Intended White Guy is coming from, but he's reaching, IMO.

Splinter's eyes are closed in that clip, his buck teeth are because he's a rat, & the top-knot is a staple of Samurai "fashion". He's also voiced by an Asian American (by way of Canada) who I'm assuming didn't take issue with how the character is being portrayed and/or developed the style of voice himself.

Dude's just looking for something "problematic" to whine about.

FredWolfLeonardo

04-03-2018, 08:21 PM

I knew people would criticize Rise Splinter for his aesthetics and such, but never did I imagine that he would qualify as racist for some people.

IndigoErth

04-03-2018, 08:27 PM

But hey, it's the series that has something for almost everyone... to hate. :trazz:

I mean, maybe this guy is reaching a bit much, but honestly, so is this series, so you reap what you sow, I guess.

Papenbrook

04-04-2018, 01:40 PM

Nickelodeon has just released a new Rise Turtles' video.

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On the thumbnail image, Donatello's goggles are over his eyes.

shredder orokusaki

04-05-2018, 06:42 AM

April is my favorite because i like girls with glassses. And turtles are my LEAST FAVORITE!

Papenbrook

04-05-2018, 02:16 PM

So, I was studying this image.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/b7d42dae05339340c21f4c8d532c41b8/tumblr_p6hbd9AX8K1xoos2bo1_1280.jpg

Wow! :o Raph really does look huge, at least in comparison to/with the other Turtles'.

IndigoErth

04-05-2018, 02:41 PM

Manholes def should not work out too well...

Also, the shadow shorts bug me, extending out as far as they do. It's like some kind of upper thigh light deflection spell was cast on them. The use of such a spell however remains a mystery.

I'm so ninja, even my junk exists in the shadows. (Even against the laws of physics. Is that physics?) There's a quip for you, uh...Leo.

Papenbrook

04-06-2018, 10:28 PM

Yeah. Their design choice (the "shadow" shorts) is ... questionable at best.

I wonder why Mr. Suriano made that decision.

newfan

04-07-2018, 01:37 AM

Looking at that picture, the Black Shadows are around their Necks and sides (under arms) also.

IndigoErth

04-07-2018, 03:45 PM

Either way, I'm sticking with calling them shadow shorts, unless they tweak it so that it falls only where a normal shadow actually might. :trazz:

Papenbrook

04-08-2018, 03:36 AM

By the way, does anyone know why the Turtles' have muscular plastrons?

I can understand them having muscular arms/ legs, but plastrons?! Why did they (the designers) go for that visual aspect?

Coola Yagami

04-08-2018, 10:00 AM

By the way, does anyone know why the Turtles' have muscular plastrons?

I can understand them having muscular arms/ legs, but plastrons?! Why did they (the designers) go for that visual aspect?

The 2K3 guys were also drawn with muscular plastron.

Papenbrook

04-08-2018, 01:44 PM

The 2K3 guys were also drawn with muscular plastron.

Yes, but they were never "emphasized".

Coola Yagami

04-09-2018, 09:38 AM

Yes, but they were never "emphasized".

Eh, different art style and all that. Raph was never big aa a house either.

IndigoErth

04-09-2018, 10:37 AM

Why did they (the designers) go for that visual aspect?
I figured "because superheros" (albeit the awkward non-super kids at the hero genre table) and the TMNT have always been easy cheaters for the look of muscular abs and pecs... so, way too temping to play that up.

I don't really mind it done in moderation, esp if it's done with a more mature looking design and looks good that way, but the way they did it for 'Rise' has been reminding me of 2012 Karai's armor, just squarer. Looks less organic than it should.

Papenbrook

04-10-2018, 01:51 AM

Has anyone noticed that the Turtles' expressions tend to look ... rather plain and simple?

I mean, look at these!

http://cochinopop.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/tmtn.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/codigoespagueti.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/tortugas-ninja.png?resize=1080%2C600&quality=100&ssl=1

https://78.media.tumblr.com/1cfb0fcedee599b4a44b9c0ed36079c5/tumblr_p65sc70xqG1rj6kxdo4_1280.png

https://78.media.tumblr.com/3e9b459e0cc34020f5f1747fdaf19b64/tumblr_p62ahj41nw1tpb7b7o1_1280.png

https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e58245bd96cd523784ac144e99c66bc/tumblr_p6d8xjAGMI1rybxqgo1_1280.png

https://78.media.tumblr.com/754df6cd5b24e17607ebb38881066c5a/tumblr_p65sc70xqG1rj6kxdo1_1280.png

https://78.media.tumblr.com/c9aa168043b817b4d77b6c5b9f2f658d/tumblr_p62ahj41nw1tpb7b7o4_1280.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY_sibAWsAAlhRT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY_sibBXUAAxhSw.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ae888f085af4c3bc03ae4d53c9335dfe/tumblr_inline_p63mj1m8Jl1vt5b9r_1280.png

They just seem so ... lazy ...

They're basically just scribbles, dots, and lines ...

Powder

04-10-2018, 02:05 AM

On the contrary, they look very expressive.

Raptor86

04-10-2018, 02:12 AM

On the contrary, they look very expressive.

I agree, they are simple (like the whole style of the series), but yet they are still expressive.

Ninjinister

04-10-2018, 02:12 AM

Yeah even as a not-fan of the designs yet (though I am warming up), it's plain to see that they're pretty expressive.

That's not even a perception or opinion thing, man.

Papenbrook

04-10-2018, 02:17 AM

It may just be me, though.

I mean, they're not inherently awful, or even mediocre. They just look rather ... off-putting. I don't know why, though. Maybe, it's because they're ... somewhat inconsistent and messy.

Like this GIF.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/d5171e49db421b280bb2d24041587f2a/tumblr_p628keRCpJ1rk9c31o1_540.gif

And this GIF.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/547b0be9ee2b7a8b4f6905ed7e36a364/tumblr_p626ldX5xd1wh80h7o2_1280.gif

Just ... off-putting.

Ashwolf

04-10-2018, 06:48 AM

Panda_Kahn_fan

04-10-2018, 11:05 AM

I like April, Leo, and mikey's designs. I dislike Raph and Donnie, but they are okay. Splinter I'm neither here nor there on. I'm actually happy the four are four different kinds of turtle, and not four red-eared slider clones.

CyberCubed

04-10-2018, 11:20 AM

I'm fine with Don's design, I don't see a problem with it.

Xiewin

04-10-2018, 03:30 PM

Raphael's size bothers me so much. I don't understand why they needed to make him so big like the bay movies? They couldn't just go the fast forward route with small variances in heights? :ohwell:

Papenbrook

04-10-2018, 04:58 PM

You're right, Powder.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f803fb85eee9eda284171646dff0e97c/tumblr_p65p8y2qCp1rj6kxdo2_1280.jpg

Raph is cute! :goofygri:

IndigoErth

04-10-2018, 05:48 PM

AAAAHAhahaha.

Oh god... Even if it ends up being a train wreck, well, at least we'll still get some great screen caps and gifs out of it. For use as reaction images/gifs on here, naturally.

P.S. Raph looks like he was just probed up the backside...with something rather cold. (Mikey also looks like he knows something about this incident.)

BabyTurtles

04-10-2018, 06:30 PM

I actually like Raph's size now ^_^ and I also like Donnie's eyebrows. I kinda wish they all had eyebrows XD

Shark_Blade

04-11-2018, 04:05 AM

I think it’s refrehing that a big size character like Raph becomes a main focus/leader.

It’s pretty rare because normally big characters like Hulk, Chewbacca, Rubeus Hagrid and such are treated like side characters.

Here comes Raph, up front and centre, enormous and all, leading the pack.

Papenbrook

04-11-2018, 12:50 PM

For some reason, Leonardo reminds me of Glenn Quagmire.

I ... don't think that's a good thing.

Powder

04-11-2018, 04:26 PM

You are out of your mind, :tlol:

Shark_Blade

04-11-2018, 04:52 PM

For some reason, Leonardo reminds me of Glenn Quagmire.

I ... don't think that's a good thing.
You just made me imagining Leo coming up to the surface and hooking up with prostitute whores.

Giggity.

FredWolfLeonardo

04-11-2018, 05:47 PM

You just made me imagining Leo coming up to the surface and hooking up with prostitute whores.

Giggity.

I know you're gonna make fan-art of just that :lol:

IndigoErth

04-11-2018, 06:12 PM

You just made me imagining Leo coming up to the surface and hooking up with prostitute whores.

Giggity.

https://i.imgur.com/xbKgPqF.gif**

https://i.imgur.com/37Vhhh8.gif

**I will forever use this one at every opportunity given... lol

Papenbrook

04-11-2018, 11:54 PM

Jeez. I didn't mean literally. :lol:

I just meant that his head shape reminded me of Quagmire's head.

Papenbrook

04-17-2018, 12:49 PM

Donnie should of had the freckles. :(

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f058fffff870263512a61b5092d2eaa7/tumblr_p65u02CFWI1wh80h7o5_1280.png

https://78.media.tumblr.com/7891f052c7b13efc14af7920227b017a/tumblr_p65u02CFWI1wh80h7o6_1280.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZJzFFFXkAEFSBj.jpg

He would have looked even cuter! :anime:

Also, they were gonna pull a Boom!Sonic with Leonardo.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/56fb95675342d5975c6f05eb9939000d/tumblr_p65vheYDmH1us3x68o4_1280.png

Technogeek29

04-18-2018, 03:20 PM

Still growing on liking the designs but I really don't like the over abundant crap on Don's back.

Papenbrook

04-22-2018, 07:04 AM

Speaking of which:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ceb62402347cc5b86573f5991c10657c/tumblr_p68cl8Kuhm1r4yt67o3_1280.png

It looks like, depending on the situation, Donnie will don different battle shells.

Papenbrook

04-23-2018, 07:29 PM

Ugh.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ba85a9c038bb9723cce0f04aa7bf688b/tumblr_p62ahj41nw1tpb7b7o2_1280.png

Just ... UGH ...!!!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/0cefb80a7d9bf8ed8624fe46798e1ab6/tumblr_p62g3hU4y41wh80h7o2_1280.gif

I swear, every time I look at Leonardo, he just seems more ... uncanny to look at.

Why did Mr.Suriano make him like this?

IndigoErth

04-23-2018, 08:38 PM

My only somewhat favorite shot of him so far would be this one...

http://i66.tinypic.com/2hf2elt.png

Less asshat-ish and something akin to a slight dash of 2003-ish-ness.

BabyTurtles

04-23-2018, 08:53 PM

Leo looks fine to me....In fact I feel he's one of the better looking designs between the turtles. Though all of them have something I like about them.

Powder

04-26-2018, 06:43 AM

Bums me out how much hate these designs are getting, I really like them. :(

KillCrites

04-26-2018, 09:10 AM

Bums me out how much hate these designs are getting, I really like them. :(

Same, the artstyle and character designs both look incredible in my opinion.

CyberCubed

04-26-2018, 10:08 AM

If the Turtles all looked like Leo I'd be fine, Leo has the best design I'd say. Mikey's is alright too. I just wish Raph was smaller and Don is ok.

The way they smile with their teeth hanging out is weird though.

IndigoErth

04-26-2018, 10:46 AM

Forgive me, those movies kind of burned out most of my lifetime supply of sympathy for the "I'm sad people don't like a thing I like" angle. Who cares if not everyone agrees.

I don't entirely hate them, it could have been worse I suppose, but I've never much liked jarring, angular, pointy designs in most cases, and that includes when the 2003 series started doing it in the late seasons; albeit less extreme, but likewise still feels rather cheap compared to the early seasons.

As far as any "hate" I have for this goes... Maybe 5% is to the designs really. 10% to the animation style and what they do with those designs that can help make it or break it. 85% is to screwing with their personalities and who'd they'd become over their 34 years of existence, which isn't helping me feel any love for the rest of it. (It bums me out that they felt the need to change Leo like that, like who he normally is just isn't interesting enough for inclusion -- I mean screw those who appreciate and/or relate to his kind of personality and who he is as a character. I suppose in some regard I'm insulted for both him and as a viewer.)

KillCrites

04-26-2018, 11:28 AM

plastroncafe

04-26-2018, 11:35 AM

Forgive me, those movies kind of burned out most of my lifetime supply of sympathy for the "I'm sad people don't like a thing I like" angle. Who cares if not everyone agrees.

I think there's a big difference between people not liking a thing, and those who go out of their way to Spew their Haterade.

You give a nuanced account of how the line art doesn't work for you and how the characterization isn't to your taste.

That's way different than calling someone's intelligence into question, telling them they're not Real Fans, or otherwise putting on a show of gnashing and wailing.

And while I can't speak for Powder, that's the kind of histrionic crap his sentiment seems to me to speak to.

IndigoErth

04-26-2018, 01:34 PM

Fair enough. More detail is always be helpful. (edit: I also English gud today.)

They didn't even really change Leo's personality.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bsp.gif

I'm sure once he eventually becomes leader in the show he'll be more like classic Leonardo personality-wise.
One can hope.

Papenbrook

04-26-2018, 03:12 PM

Powder

04-26-2018, 04:58 PM

*sigh*

I don't actually hold any ill-will towards the Rise designers/artists/animators, nor do I hold any grudges towards their supporters. In fact, I wish them the best of luck, and I hope they enjoy the upcoming series.

I'm just voicing my grievances that concern their design choices for these particular characters. (* Note: I don't actually hate (most) of their character designs. I'm just kinda ... ambivalent towards them. *)

If I ever came across as overbearing, then I sincerely and whole-heartily apologize.

I wasn't talking about you, man. I mean outside of this site. You see something like the Splatoon promotion on Facebook & other sites & 80% of the comments are people saying really harsh things purely out of a nostalgia bias. It's disheartening.

Papenbrook

05-03-2018, 10:01 PM

I wasn't talking about you, man. I mean outside of this site. You see something like the Splatoon promotion on Facebook & other sites & 80% of the comments are people saying really harsh things purely out of a nostalgia bias. It's disheartening.

Oh. I misunderstood. Sorry about that. :embarass:

Am I the only one who thinks Rise!Donatello looks absolutely adorkable?

I swear, he's already the best boy! ❤

Papenbrook

05-07-2018, 03:14 PM

So, I've viewed this artwork (again):

https://78.media.tumblr.com/41b02faeccf3a9575850ef320931a613/tumblr_p4tjujPz991r2nvplo1_1280.jpg

I've noticed that Donatello's head is labeled the "Big Brain".

Who has Josh Brener played in Silicon Valley?

https://www.theyoungfolks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/big-head-1024.jpg

Nelson Bighetti a.k.a. Big Head!

That's a neat reference! :D

Dejablue

06-15-2018, 01:04 PM

My feelings about the designs are also ambivalent. Mostly because I'm at least 70 percent sure we are going to get some cheap ass animation. Kim Possible may be the only show where characters have sharp edges and no curves but the animation is still fluid. And even in that show there were characters made up with almost no sharp angles to their design. Just from the trailer it looks like during down time its going to be jagged animation central, and then maybe things will look smoother during fights. MAYBE.

As far as Raph is concerned, my favorite Raphael is 87 Raphael. And sometimes I wonder if it is possible to blend the typical hot headed angry Raphael with the sarcasm and wit of 87 Raphael. I don't really...know how Rise Raphael is going to pan out, all I know is he won't be angry. I'm semi interested in this change.

I can at least understand why they felt the need to alter Leo's character but I still don't like it. It's like they are passively saying Leo's typical character archetype is boring, outdated, and needs to be phased out. Where as personalities like Mikey are fine and are left alone.

As far as how they actually look well from worst to best I'd go: Splinter, Donnie, Raph, April, Leo, Mikey.

Splinter...I know this is a cartoon and in cartoons fat squat people can also do kung fu. But not very much about his design is appealing to me. So I'm hoping he has an awesome personality.

Donnie's head is just too big. If the top part was just SLIGHTLY shorter I would like this design more. The exaggeration is just too much for me.

Raph is too big. I'd like his design more if it at least looked like he could feasibly fit down a man hole. He honestly looks like a giant. Like Hagrid standing next to Harry Potter.

April is okay. Her outfit is cute but I don't like her hair. Its just the most generic hairstyle they could possibly give a black girl so it feels lazy.

Leo and Mikey I am the most okay with. I'm not bothered by the markings.

Papenbrook

06-18-2018, 05:14 PM

Okay.

https://pp.userapi.com/c847219/v847219700/73b8e/eyQ4U-a2KJQ.jpg

Out of all the villains (revealed so far), I think I like Albearto the most.

His design seems adorably ferocious. I almost wonder what he'll be like. :)

Powder

06-18-2018, 05:23 PM

Origami Foot Ninja aside, I think I agree with you. The Mickey Mouse animatronic chef motif is pretty funny, & visually its design is very TMNT. That mis-matched body damage/robotic parts style evokes the 90's Playmates aesthetic.

Papenbrook

06-22-2018, 06:37 PM

I've seen many people criticize April's hairstyle (twin hair-puffs). (In my opinion, I think her hair is okay. They could have done better, though.)

I don't understand the hate. Why do certain individuals strongly dislike it?

IndigoErth

06-22-2018, 06:55 PM

People like/prefer different things?

I prefer another hair style that was shown in concept art, but what they gave her is fine enough...

Papenbrook

06-22-2018, 07:05 PM

I prefer another hair style that was shown in concept art...

You mean this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfazjovX4AIU5yv.jpg:large

Which one?

IndigoErth

06-22-2018, 07:22 PM

Yeah, I kinda like second from left most.

neatoman

06-23-2018, 04:57 AM

You mean this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfazjovX4AIU5yv.jpg:large

Which one?

I like the outfit on the middle two, I wish they had gone with that one instead. I guess it looks less like something someone would wear in real life than what they went with, but I don't see why that would be a problem in this show. It's not too late to change it later on, right? They're not going with CGI this time around, they don't have to stick to a single outfit.

Powder

06-23-2018, 09:44 AM

Literally any of the other hairstyles would be better. Especially the side ponytail one, that's cute. The puffs look stupid as hell, like she's rocking a mickey mouse hat with a bill on it.

Leolead

06-23-2018, 09:49 AM

Raph, Donnie and Mikey look the worst. They look like they belong in a minimates spin-off

IndigoErth

06-23-2018, 10:24 AM

See! It's not just me then. :tlol:

Shellington

06-24-2018, 03:51 AM

You mean this?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfazjovX4AIU5yv.jpg:large

Which one?

I like the third design, with the side ponytail.

Papenbrook

06-24-2018, 04:02 AM

Personally, I would have recommended this hairstyle.

http://cdn2.stylecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Side-Parted-Pinned-Afro.jpg

IndigoErth

06-24-2018, 11:11 AM

That would be cute too.

The side one (third from left) I figured was more of a short bob hair style. I like it, but it just doesn't really say 'April' to me for some reason. I know FW April had similarly short hair (sans that much volume), but maybe this one is just too...freshly professionally styled looking? Rather than a look for a girl who has been swinging a magic bat at villains alongside a handful of mutant Turtles.

oldmanwinters

06-24-2018, 08:31 PM

Literally any of the other hairstyles would be better. Especially the side ponytail one, that's cute. The puffs look stupid as hell, like she's rocking a mickey mouse hat with a bill on it.

Haha, that's a good one. Somebody about the hair, glasses, and slacks under the skirt on Rise April just makes me think more of Fred Wolf Irma.

Papenbrook

06-25-2018, 03:10 PM

Certain individuals are now saying that Rise!Donnie resembles a girl. Um ... how?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fQmdgTusoF0/maxresdefault.jpg

Eh ... I just don't see it.

And even if he did somehow resemble a girl, I don't see how that would be a problem.

oldmanwinters

06-25-2018, 06:38 PM

All the Rise Turtles except have slender builds (waists, legs, etc.) and BIG, awkwardly angled chests.

Personally, I associate that style with the Japanese OVA "Super Turtles" (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwif3aWpi_DbAhUMUK0KHZiRAjUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.***************************** *%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Ftmnt-the-great-crisis-of-the-super-turtles-the-saint-appears%2F&psig=AOvVaw3gXJCc2IQCtyxLN7Do6YMR&ust=1530059858497801) transformations, but I can understand why folks who aren't big into that obscure branch of the franchise might see it differently.

Papenbrook

06-26-2018, 04:59 AM

This reminds me of one of my prior comments.

Why are they trying to make Rise!Donnie look handsome?

Don't get me wrong. He's cute (in a sort of nerdy/geeky way), but he ain't handsome (imo).

To summarize, I think that Rise!Donnie is adorkable.

Dragnskull

07-21-2018, 04:46 PM

I've only seen the 1st episode but I'm not sure who i hate more yet, april or splinter.

So far I think april is winning that, but probably because splitner only got 30 seconds of screen time so far while black april (blapril?) was crammed down my throat

MutagenJosh

07-22-2018, 03:34 PM

I HATE the design of Rise Splinter.
My favorite design has got to be Rise Mikey. He always stands out and looks like a turtle from an older series, and I love it.

neatoman

07-22-2018, 03:55 PM

I said this before, Draxum kind of looks like an even weirder Savanti. So I guess he's a pretty cool design?

ProphetofGanja

07-22-2018, 04:37 PM

I think Baron Draxum could have looked a little better and I wish Raph wasn't quite so much taller than his brothers, but those are my only issues, really

Shark_Blade

07-22-2018, 04:47 PM

After watching the episode, here’s my thoughts.

1. I like Rise Mikey look the best. He looks so lean and athletic, which can be seen by his sleek stomach/plastron design.

2. Leo
3. Don
4. Raph
5. April

...

999. Splinter

Donaterro

07-22-2018, 11:06 PM

Favourite: Mikey.
Least: Raph.

Papenbrook

10-29-2018, 10:03 PM

I've (sort of) noticed that Rise!Donatello has the long legs.

I wonder why that is, though.

asfaloth12

11-01-2018, 05:35 PM

Favorite: Leo. I like the red facial markings. April is adorable as well.
Least favorite: Definitely Splinter. The first promotional image in particular was god-awful.

miru

11-02-2018, 11:21 AM

Can I say Jessica is my favorite design? Because she is.

Powder

11-02-2018, 07:12 PM

"Nobody cares about your boner"

miru

11-02-2018, 09:14 PM

"Nobody cares about your boner"

No. I simply think she is a legitimately cool design. It’s not really a Ninjara situation.

Papenbrook

11-04-2018, 08:57 PM

On another note, Rise!Donnie just looks so cuddly! :anime:

I love him already! :D

LeotheLateBloomer

11-05-2018, 09:02 AM

To summarize, I think that Rise!Donnie is adorkable.

I've (sort of) noticed that Rise!Donatello has the long legs.

I wonder why that is, though.

On another note, Rise!Donnie just looks so cuddly! :anime:

I love him already! :D

Your fixations are quite disturbing.

Papenbrook

11-06-2018, 09:40 AM

Your fixations are quite disturbing.

.....

https://66.media.tumblr.com/5e77d98d1f1da13b38e8a8c8e7c5cfd1/tumblr_inline_phfv2efOiR1ryaut3_500.gif

I'm sorry. I never meant to come across like that.

Cowa

11-22-2018, 11:03 AM

I'm sorry for bringing this topic up after so long, but I was wondering... Since we are more used to these designs now, have your opinions changed at all?

Powder

11-24-2018, 09:13 AM

The only thing I minded with the turtles was Donnie's head size & how Mikey's waist-less belt made him feel sorta nude. I've since gotten over/used to those minor details.

Still don't care for April but that's both in design & personality. The turtles & everyone else are great.

Papenbrook

06-27-2019, 10:18 AM

It's been a while, and ... I still hate Leo's design.

Shark_Blade

07-07-2019, 03:48 AM

I'm sorry for bringing this topic up after so long, but I was wondering... Since we are more used to these designs now, have your opinions changed at all?
Yep, I like them even more now. :D

1. Leo
2. Mikey
3. Don
4. Raph
5. April
6. Splinter
7. Baron Draxum
8. Sweat Meats

Cowa

07-09-2019, 10:10 AM

Well, nice to know that things have changed for some of us. :) I still am not a fan of the design but I've grew used to them so now I'm ok with them.

From favorite to least favorite:

1- Mikey
I think he looks cute and young, I like it.

2- Leo
Aside from his poiting head and thick arms, I like him too. He looks 50% innocent 50% devilish.

3- Raph
Not as good as the other two, but he's a mixture of MMA wrestler and a teddy bear, which is kinda adorable.

4- April
She's cute but her clothes are horrible and she resembles Irma of last show, in a way. Which, saddens me.

5- Donnie
Beauty isn't his best trait but I kinda think his design suits him. I love the eyebrowns too.

6- Splinter
Unpopular opinion here, but I like his design. I agree with what was said about the stereotypical way they designed him as an asian guy, but that aside I think he could look like some very angry dude and this is something I enjoy (it's a shame they made him act as such a bozo)

I don't like the design of the villains so far.