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TurtleTitan97
10-03-2018, 06:53 PM
Favreau will pen the script and exec produce the live-action series for the forthcoming Disney streaming service.
Disney's forthcoming streaming service won't launch until late 2019 but details surrounding one of its most highly anticipated TV series have emerged.
Jon Favreau, who is set to write and exec produce an original, live-action scripted Star Wars TV series, revealed that his new show will be called The Mandalorian.
"After the stories of Jango and Boba Fett, another warrior emerges in the Star Wars universe. The Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order. We follow the travails of a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy far from the authority of the New Republic," Favreau shared in an post on his verified Instagram account.
Disney is developing multiple live-action Star Wars TV series for its upcoming streaming service, which is designed to rival Netflix. The platform will be the exclusive home for Marvel feature films and original series as well as Pixar and other Lucasfilm properties. So far, only Favreau's involvement in one of the Star Wars TV series has been revealed. Wednesday's announcement offers a closer look at just where the new Star Wars TV series fits in with the franchise.
For his part, Favreau is no stranger to the Star Wars universe. The actor-director played roles in Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series and in Solo: A Star Wars Story.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-wars-jon-favreaus-tv-series-details-revealed-1149194
Andrew NDB
10-03-2018, 06:57 PM
That's a "meh" from me.
TurtleTitan97
10-04-2018, 06:42 PM
First image:
https://starwarsblog.starwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/the-mandalorian-featured-20181004-B.jpg
Production on the first Star Wars live-action streaming series has begun! After the stories of Jango and Boba Fett, another warrior emerges in the Star Wars universe. The Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order. We follow the travails of a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy far from the authority of the New Republic. The series will be written and executive produced by Emmy-nominated producer and actor Jon Favreau, as previously announced, with Dave Filoni (Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels) directing the first episode. Additional episodic directors include Deborah Chow (Jessica Jones), Rick Famuyiwa (Dope), Bryce Dallas Howard (Solemates), and Taika Waititi (Thor: Ragnarok). It will be executive produced by Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, Kathleen Kennedy, and Colin Wilson. Karen Gilchrist will serve as co-executive producer. Stay tuned to StarWars.com for updates.
https://www.starwars.com/news/the-mandalorian-revealed
Andrew NDB
10-04-2018, 06:56 PM
Guaranteed Boba Fett shows up and probably pops in from time to time.
Andrew NDB
11-13-2018, 02:55 PM
Pedro Pascal plays the titular Mandalorian:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/pedro-pascal-to-lead-the-mandalorian/
TigerClaw
11-13-2018, 07:00 PM
How much your willing to bet. That this Mandalorian character will turn up to be a good guy in the end? You usually have these type of characters that appear to be fighting on the other side. But then at some point. they switch sides and join the rebels. So we can probably expect this character to join the resistance at some point when some sort of betrayal happens.
If you look at Star Wars Rebels. There was a character who originally started out as a villain working for the empire. Then something happened to him that caused him to join the rebellion.
TurtleTitan97
11-14-2018, 06:46 PM
Gina Carano (Deadpool) joins the cast: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/gina-carano-joins-star-wars-series-mandalorian-1160809
Andrew NDB
11-14-2018, 07:00 PM
How much your willing to bet. That this Mandalorian character will turn up to be a good guy in the end? You usually have these type of characters that appear to be fighting on the other side. But then at some point. they switch sides and join the rebels. So we can probably expect this character to join the resistance at some point when some sort of betrayal happens.
If you look at Star Wars Rebels. There was a character who originally started out as a villain working for the empire. Then something happened to him that caused him to join the rebellion.
Of course he'll be a good guy. Or an "anti-hero." There's not a doubt in my mind.
Autbot_Benz
12-12-2018, 03:09 PM
Werner Herzog, Carl Weathers, and Giancarlo Esposito to the cast.
http://collider.com/the-mandalorian-cast/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social
TurtleTitan97
08-23-2019, 08:23 PM
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I'm conflicted, it looks awesome in many parts albeit unnecessary. On the other hand it's another OT rehash and a mandalorian who isn't boba fett in the same era as him yet the fan service still got me sort of excited.
Andrew NDB
08-23-2019, 11:45 PM
I'm conflicted, it looks awesome in many parts albeit unnecessary. On the other hand it's another OT rehash and a mandalorian who isn't boba fett in the same era as him yet the fan service still got me sort of excited.
I'm still thinking we will see a post-Sarlacc Boba Fett in this.
I saw that full scene that leaked months back and that was really, really intriguing.
Allio
08-24-2019, 01:08 AM
I know old EU was pretty bad about how many times Boba got eaten by the same Sarlac, but has new EU been that bad?
Andrew NDB
08-24-2019, 02:42 AM
I know old EU was pretty bad about how many times Boba got eaten by the same Sarlac, but has new EU been that bad?
Don't know, but it sounds like largely the new EU beyond the cartoons is pretty boring, probably because the writers are barely allowed to do anything.
This looks silly fun and better than anything we've seen from Rogue One to the sequel trilogy. It reminds me of something a SWs video game would come up with and I'm ok with this.
Don't know, but it sounds like largely the new EU beyond the cartoons is pretty boring, probably because the writers are barely allowed to do anything.
So now that everything is 100% canon yet ignored by everyone we now get a boring EU. Ironic.
ZariusTwo
09-05-2019, 06:03 AM
The First Order's origins will be explored in this series
https://ew.com/tv/2019/09/04/the-mandalorian-first-order/
AquaParade
09-05-2019, 11:21 AM
I'm still thinking we will see a post-Sarlacc Boba Fett in this.
I saw that full scene that leaked months back and that was really, really intriguing.
I'm thinking it will be nothing but a name drop here and there, unless the show goes for another four or five seasons. Like, when they run out of other ideas.
I think I'd love to be wrong, but I don't know. I guess the truth is, like many, I've always loved Boba for his armor. Now that the new guys has just as cool armor, I'm feeling both shallow and satisfied.
Andrew NDB
11-12-2019, 11:01 AM
So it's out today. Anybody see it?
And is it ALL out, all episodes at once?
CyberCubed
11-12-2019, 11:30 AM
I will watch it when it’s *free.
ZariusTwo
11-12-2019, 02:06 PM
I will watch it when it’s *free.
I nabbed it off the Pirate Bay. Easy.
As for the show...yeah, I'd say it's decent. Just the one episode at the moment. Not that long either, about 38 minutes plus credits.
Definitely going to have a "Lone Wolf and Cub" vibe if the end with Yoda Jr is any indication
Jester
11-12-2019, 02:07 PM
Disney is releasing it an episode at a time. The first episode is actually pretty fun with a good mix of humor in action. It's essentially a western set in the Star wars universe.
Andrew NDB
11-12-2019, 02:12 PM
Not that long either, about 38 minutes plus credits.
That's it?
Jester
11-12-2019, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I was surprised it wasn't a "full hour" TV length.
Andrew NDB
11-12-2019, 03:33 PM
Yeah, I was surprised it wasn't a "full hour" TV length.
I never thought for a second it would be anything less. Especially for the opening episode.
I hope Obi-Wan isn't going to be like that.
CyberCubed
11-12-2019, 04:20 PM
It's probably a budget issue, it's said to be the most expensive show Disney ever produced.
Jester
11-12-2019, 04:41 PM
I really wonder if it was just all the time they needed for the story. Some streaming shows care little about the episode length due to no commercial breaks.
Just got done watching it about five minutes ago. I'm not sure what everyone's expectations are, or what some people will want to hear, but I thought the show was great.
It's very clear that the show was expensive, and you can sense the showrunners intelligently allocating resources where they can. For example, the first act is on an ice planet with largely empty planetary scenery. You can tell it was a money saving choice, but it served the story because they are running around on a barren wasteland of a frozen lake for the most part.
And again for budget reasons, the episode carried itself as a small-cast movie. Like Sam Rockwell's "Moon". They save a fortune on actors by keeping the interactions to that of a stage play. But it works because again, it serves the story. The characters were all likeable. Also, if this show lasted for five years and he never took his helmet off, it would be terrific.
These two examples of budgeting though are fine when most of the VFX shots were basically Star Wars quality. It felt like as fresh but also familiar a look at Star Wars as Rogue One did, and I mean that in a good way. If they can keep identity politics out of it and keep guys like Rian Johnson away then this could be the most reliably decent Star Wars we get under Disney.
Honestly, I thought it was great. A lot of fun.
I wonder if they'll ever do the star wars live action show lucas made, the scripts are written for like a bunch of seasons already, he was just waiting to make it affordable to film.
Mandalorian seems to be getting great reviews from everyone, but I dunno, I'm wary, I'll wait for the hype to die down. Ep VII was also praised for a while as were EpII and III after they came out, so I need time for the hype to die.
Mayhem
11-13-2019, 02:37 AM
A promising start, and yes the end of the episode sets up something interesting indeed. Wonder if he will get in trouble, IG-11 is in Guild too heh...
Andrew NDB
11-13-2019, 02:43 AM
For what it was, a 35 minute thing, it was awesome! I'll need to reserve my judgement until I get a few more of these to digest to comment on the whole, though. Not a whole lot of meat here just yet.
I wonder if they'll ever do the star wars live action show lucas made, the scripts are written for like a bunch of seasons already, he was just waiting to make it affordable to film.
"Star Wars: Underworld"? Yeah. Just like those old rejected McQuarrie things keep coming back into style, it's pretty inevitable that some joker will pull those scripts out of the vault in 5-10 years. I actually hope they do.
Metalwolf
11-13-2019, 12:41 PM
I wonder if episodes can eventually be bought off of Amazon. I don't have cable access (and I don't want to spend a wad just for one show) so I really hope it does.
AquaParade
11-13-2019, 12:44 PM
I want to subscribe to Disney+, but it isn't available on my Sony 4k Player, under the Apps section.
I'm bummed, because my audio system is hooked up to my 4k player and not my tv.
Andrew NDB
11-13-2019, 12:44 PM
I wonder if episodes can eventually be bought off of Amazon.
Highly doubtful, beyond in physical form way down the line. Amazon Prime is a direct Disney+ competitor.
AquaParade
11-13-2019, 01:01 PM
I said screw it and subscribed on Playstation.
Anyone having issues with the Ultra HD & HDR content? I tried plugging in for a wired connection, but when I select the HDR content, it is definitely not Ultra HD or HDR. Could be a launch issue...
CyberCubed
11-13-2019, 01:43 PM
You don’t have to subscribe at all, I don’t have any online services and I watch whatever I’m interested in. I’ll probably wait till the whole season is over to watch this show, so I can binge it all on 1.5x speed in a lazy afternoon.
AquaParade
11-13-2019, 02:45 PM
You don’t have to subscribe at all, I don’t have any online services and I watch whatever I’m interested in. I’ll probably wait till the whole season is over to watch this show, so I can binge it all on 1.5x speed in a lazy afternoon.
By what means? Torrents? I'm hoping this and Watchmen both get physical releases, because that encourages me to watch things.
Andrew NDB
11-13-2019, 02:52 PM
By what means? Torrents? I'm hoping this and Watchmen both get physical releases
I'm hoping Watchmen gets cancelled and everyone involved in that awful show gets egg on their faces.
As for Mandalorian, I'm sure it'll get a physical release eventually... but Disney has absolutely zero incentive to do that anytime soon. The longer it's exclusively only on Disney+, the better for them.
AquaParade
11-13-2019, 03:33 PM
I'm hoping Watchmen gets cancelled and everyone involved in that awful show gets egg on their faces.
As for Mandalorian, I'm sure it'll get a physical release eventually... but Disney has absolutely zero incentive to do that anytime soon. The longer it's exclusively only on Disney+, the better for them.
Well, I haven't seen Watchmen yet, to be fair, but I dig the look of it, at least.
I fear you're right about The Mandalorian, but I'm hoping they've still got a good chunk of the audience they feel they haven't reached with Disney+.
I'm hoping Watchmen gets cancelled and everyone involved in that awful show gets egg on their faces.
As for Mandalorian, I'm sure it'll get a physical release eventually... but Disney has absolutely zero incentive to do that anytime soon. The longer it's exclusively only on Disney+, the better for them.
If the series plays out as well as the first episode did, I'd buy this on 4k disc for sure.
Andrew NDB
12-03-2019, 01:35 PM
Rian Johnson wants in, to direct episodes:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/rian-johnson-keen-to-helm-mandalorian/
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
12-03-2019, 01:46 PM
Rian Johnson wants in, to direct episodes:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/rian-johnson-keen-to-helm-mandalorian/
So Baby Yoda can burn down another sacred tree full of Jedi texts? Awesome.
snake
12-03-2019, 02:21 PM
Mando shoots Baby Yeed in the face, gets depressed, and passes his helmet onto a little kid.
Directed by Rian Johnson.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
12-03-2019, 02:30 PM
Mando shoots Baby Yeed in the face, gets depressed, and passes his helmet onto a little kid.
Directed by Rian Johnson.
Don't forget somebody preventing a heroic sacrifice because LOVE.
CyberCubed
12-03-2019, 05:47 PM
First three eps were good because it was like a videogame, and baby Yod-ling is cute, but the fourth episode was awful. Reminded me of the bad Star Trek episodes where they land on a planet and help random villagers with their problems.
*shudders*
Also unless the rest of the series picks up, this show just feels like isolated stories of Mando with a baby. It's just ok so far.
Andrew NDB
12-28-2019, 04:58 PM
Well? Anybody finish it?
Well? Anybody finish it?
Thought it was great. It's so nice to watch a show without agenda and simply for fun and story. I'd say the only misstep was the "Teach the farmers how to fight" ep. The show is very much a live action cartoon.
This year is going to be great for T.V. with this, The Orville and Picard.
Allio
12-28-2019, 06:24 PM
Pretty fun. If the theay quality of the shows stay this consitent, I'm looking forward to the future of D+ Star Wars.
Roseangelo
12-28-2019, 08:12 PM
Loved the ending. Loved the whole damn thing. Will give my life for Baby Yoda.
Slade
12-29-2019, 07:17 AM
It's awesome. Definitely a fan and I'm not really big into SW like some other franchises. Give it a 9.5 out of 10. Could stand to be a little longer imo.
Loved the ending. Loved the whole damn thing. Will give my life for Baby Yoda.
:lol::lol::lol:
Now suddenly at the end of the show they reveal that he's a dark side force user, lmao! That's why he made the little fist when force choking Cara Dune....
That would be cause for a Vader "Noooooooooo!!!!"
:lol:
CyberCubed
12-31-2019, 06:57 AM
The most impressive thing about the show is the production values. It honestly looks as good as the movies. There’s no jarring TV show budget like most companies would give a show like this. Disney pours the money into this.
Andrew NDB
12-31-2019, 10:49 AM
The most impressive thing about the show is the production values. It honestly looks as good as the movies. There’s no jarring TV show budget like most companies would give a show like this. Disney pours the money into this.
Eh, I can see the various shortcuts at times, but it definitely manages what budget it has well. A Star Wars movie doesn't need to cost 275 million.
The obvious inclination would be that a somewhat more grown up Baby Yoda will show up around the time of the sequel trilogy, now 30 years older. Like in whatever spinoff Finn and the new characters from TROS get. To try and save that.
snake
12-31-2019, 01:15 PM
I wonder if he'll be talking by then.
Warhorse
02-02-2020, 09:37 PM
Well, I just finished it, and thought it sucked. No character development and I'm not too keen on a major character where you can't even see the face. I guess I'm more of the Jedi fan when it comes to Star Wars than an EU fan.
CyberCubed
02-02-2020, 10:08 PM
Most of it was pretty good, although the highs are the last two episodes. Outside of the ep where he landed on the planet to help villagers, the rest of it was pretty good.
Warhorse
02-03-2020, 09:49 AM
Most of it was pretty good, although the highs are the last two episodes. Outside of the ep where he landed on the planet to help villagers, the rest of it was pretty good.
That episode, 4 is it, where it concentrates on the villagers and then all of a sudden they are attacked, I swear, was ripped right from Game of Thrones.
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That episode, 4 is it, where it concentrates on the villagers and then all of a sudden they are attacked, I swear, was ripped right from Game of Thrones.
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Most people credit the "arm and train the peasants" story as originating in modern pop culture with "The Seven Samurai". There's a million stories like that long before Game of Thrones did it. It's become a storytelling trope. Hell I think they even cribbed it into Star Wars before with a Clone Wars episode!
Andrew NDB
03-20-2020, 12:53 PM
Apparently Rosario Dawson is gonna be Ahsoka in season 2?
https://www.darkhorizons.com/dawson-cast-as-ahsoka-in-mandalorian/?fbclid=IwAR0Nspt1J_xEi-2lQMV_GFgICfxFgGnc4XFxSh8kt5bXUSTNF0xpaGmUlvk
CyberCubed
03-20-2020, 01:10 PM
They cast a black actress for her? Guess it makes sense since she’ll be covered by red face paint anyway.
I’m surprised how little promotion Ahsoka has outside the cartoons given she’s female and a popular character. You would think Disney would be rushing to give her a solo movie or something but nothing happened.
Andrew NDB
03-20-2020, 01:13 PM
They cast a black actress for her?
Rosario Dawson isn't black at all. She's Cuban/Puerto Rican.
You would think Disney would be rushing to give her a solo movie or something but nothing happened.
I think what we'll see going forward is Star Wars TV shows being used as "feeler" territory for new films.
AquaParade
03-20-2020, 01:14 PM
I mean, she's an alien...
TurtleTitan97
03-20-2020, 02:50 PM
Hopefully Sabine and Ezra won't be too far behind.
Leo656
03-20-2020, 07:31 PM
She's got an awesome rack, I might have to start paying attention to this show. :lol:
Andrew NDB
03-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Robert Rodriguez confirmed to have already directed at least one episode of S2.
https://www.darkhorizons.com/rodriguez-confirmed-for-mandalorian-s2/
Autbot_Benz
03-24-2020, 04:25 PM
michael biehn joins the cast as a bounty hunter
https://collider.com/the-mandalorian...source=twitter
CyberCubed
03-24-2020, 04:26 PM
Is this even filming with the virus going on?
Andrew NDB
03-24-2020, 04:28 PM
Is this even filming with the virus going on?
It already happened. Season 2 wrapped at the beginning of this month.
CyberCubed
03-24-2020, 04:29 PM
All the eps are done already? That's weird I thought they were just starting.
raph27
03-26-2020, 12:19 PM
They're lucky filming wrapped up when it did. With everything going on, this is looking like it will be the only Disney+ original for a long time.
Thinking back, Disney+ really is just a Star Wars service for me. The only things I've watched on it were this during the first season and now Clone Wars since I never saw that during its original run.
CyberCubed
03-26-2020, 12:28 PM
If everything is nearly done hopefully they release the whole season at once this time due to the virus. Would like to marathon it over 2-3 days or so than wait 3 months.
I mean I don’t have Disney+ but I’ll watch the whole series as soon as it comes out just like I did with the first season.
TurtleTitan97
05-08-2020, 03:54 PM
Boba Fett is appearing in season 2: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/mandalorian-finds-boba-fett-temuera-morrison-1293675
Zany Orange Dude
05-08-2020, 04:06 PM
Boba Fett is appearing in season 2: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/mandalorian-finds-boba-fett-temuera-morrison-1293675
I had a feeling they'd put Boba in it after the hinting in season one. Didn't think they would get Jango Fett's actor from Attack of the Clones, though, so that's pretty cool.
TurtleTitan97
05-08-2020, 04:11 PM
I had a feeling they'd put Boba in it after the hinting in season one. Didn't think they would get Jango Fett's actor from Attack of the Clones, though, so that's pretty cool.
I'm betting this means we also get to see Rex once Ahsoka appears.
Zany Orange Dude
05-08-2020, 04:16 PM
I'm betting this means we also get to see Rex once Ahsoka appears.
I'd love to see a live action Rex! Unless we count his "appearance" in Return of the Jedi as a live action Rex.:twink:
But seriously, I wonder who they'd get to play him?
TurtleTitan97
05-08-2020, 04:26 PM
I'd love to see a live action Rex! Unless we count his "appearance" in Return of the Jedi as a live action Rex.:twink:
But seriously, I wonder who they'd get to play him?
I could totally see Morrison pulling double duty and playing both Rex and Boba.
Zany Orange Dude
05-08-2020, 04:30 PM
I could totally see Morrison pulling double duty and playing both Rex and Boba.
That sounds like a grand idea, Titan! I really hope it happens!
CyberCubed
05-08-2020, 04:44 PM
How old should Boba Fett be in the timeline of this show? I forget.
TurtleTitan97
05-08-2020, 05:03 PM
How old should Boba Fett be in the timeline of this show? I forget.
He'd be around 41 years old at this point.
Andrew NDB
05-08-2020, 06:36 PM
He'd be around 41 years old at this point.
Plus some time in the Sarlacc Pit, Morrison should look perfect.
I knew they'd do this.
CyberCubed
05-08-2020, 11:21 PM
Hope this comes out soon. I just see it as a live-action version of the cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels. Since it has the same director it's the same feel.
Now with Ahsoka appearing in Season 2, it's going to feel even more similar to the cartoons.
Andrew NDB
05-08-2020, 11:32 PM
Hope this comes out soon.
Seems to be on track for its October release or whatever it was.
TurtleTitan97
05-12-2020, 11:18 AM
Katee Sackhoff reprises the role of Bo-Katan Kryze for Mandalorian Season 2: https://www.slashfilm.com/the-mandalorian-season-2-bo-katan/
TurtleTitan97
05-15-2020, 05:14 PM
Timothy Olyphant has been casted in an undisclosed role: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/timothy-olyphant-joins-mandalorian-1294788
Whatswiththeheadbands?
05-26-2020, 09:22 AM
Watched the first two episodes. It's OK so far. Nothing mind-blowing or even great, just OK
The problem I have with Star Wars is I'm not a massive fan of the world building. It's good, but next to something like Tolkien's Middle Earth, Robert Jordan's Westlands or even Michael Moorcock's Young Kingdoms, I find a lot the elements boring.
Leo656
05-26-2020, 09:31 AM
When I first read the novelizations of the Original Trilogy films, I was pretty blown away by how much richer everything was in the book version. Like yeah, it definitely helped having seen the movies so I had a strong visual picture in my head, but man. So much more going on than the movies showed us, at every level of the story. Everything was so fleshed-out and had a lot more weight to it.
It was a neat experience.
TurtleTitan97
09-15-2020, 10:34 AM
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CyberCubed
09-16-2020, 10:34 AM
Where is Boba Fett?
AquaParade
09-16-2020, 10:43 AM
That is what I was wondering, CyberCubed.
Did you all hear about the issues between Pedro Pascal and the production staff? Apparently he wanted for scenes without the helmet and was being difficult, leading to him being featured less this season and possibly on his way out? Let me see if i can find a good source, because I'm not even sure it is true.
Either way, I won't cry if they replace him. Either way, they need to do something about all the voice-over. It sounded terrible in season 1 and took me out of nearly every scene. It was flat. If they can get someone in the suit, mic'd up, that'd be much better. or just get a voice actor at this point. Pedro Pascal has no skill as a voice actor and shouldn't be expected to assume the role gracefully.
Andrew NDB
09-16-2020, 09:09 PM
Gina Carano trying to be cancelled by SJWs over literally nothing.
https://www.insider.com/mandalorian-gina-carano-twitter-tweets-controversy-transphobic-2020-9
neatoman
09-16-2020, 09:11 PM
Where is Boba Fett?
Being digested.
Andrew NDB
10-30-2020, 04:01 PM
So episode 1 of season 2 is out now. Haven't watched it yet but I understand...
... we see the Mandalorian buy Boba Fett's armor AND we see Boba Fett without armor (played by Temuera Morrison) watching him from afar.
TurtleTitan97
10-31-2020, 03:41 PM
This episode gave me some major KOTOR flashbacks with the Krayt Dragon.
CyberCubed
10-31-2020, 05:27 PM
I like the show but each episode feels like filler. It feels like I'm watching a videogame sidequest or something. Mando visits a new town, meets an NPC with a problem, has a "quest," where they drive to location, beat giant monster boss, Mando gets armor as a prize.
This whole show is a videogame disguised as a TV show.
AquaParade
11-01-2020, 10:13 AM
Something about the show just feels off to me. It has since the start. I'll need more time, but maybe I just find much of the acting to be weak. Not everyone, but most main cast members.
I'm still tuning in, because I love the sets, the costumes, the universe, etc.. hoping it will improve.
Revan
11-01-2020, 10:06 PM
This episode gave me some major KOTOR flashbacks with the Krayt Dragon.
As a KOTOR fanatic, I absolutely loved how they brought the Krayt Dragon mission into the show. And Din handled it almost exactly the way Revan did. Then when they pulled the pearl... I was giddy.
I thought the Krayt design from the show was fine. I enjoyed everything about the episode. If I'm going to nit-pick, I'd say I would have liked to see the Krayt dragon resemble the one from the game more, simply for my own selfish fanboy side.
ranger_scout
11-05-2020, 10:18 PM
This episode gave me some major KOTOR flashbacks with the Krayt Dragon.
My thoughts exactly.
CyberCubed
11-07-2020, 11:48 AM
The second ep was nice visually but pretty much another monster of the week episode with the giant spiders. I like the show visual/action wise but there really isn't much story outside a small handful of eps.
I hope they finally explain Boba/Jango being mandolorian or trained by mandolorian's or whatever. It's ridiculous how mandalorian's became a thing because of how popular Boba Fett was only for him to later be said "oh he wasn't mandolorian, he only stole the armor". This show will finally give Boba Fett a worthy backstory I hope. It's great seeing Temuera Morrison back, he should've gotten some screen time as a clone trooper in Episode III.
TurtleTitan97
11-13-2020, 07:20 AM
So we finally got confirmation in the latest episode that Mando's tribe were a bunch of religious zealots, hence the helmet rule. And seeing Bo Katan in live action was awesome.
I'm guessing either the next episode or episode 5 is when we see Ahsoka.
Andrew NDB
11-14-2020, 01:49 AM
The second ep was nice visually but pretty much another monster of the week episode with the giant spiders. I like the show visual/action wise but there really isn't much story outside a small handful of eps.
Pretty much, yeah. And they didn't even have the Mandalorian complete his egg mission in it. It just felt like an unsatisfying episode to me.
I hope they finally explain Boba/Jango being mandolorian or trained by mandolorian's or whatever. It's ridiculous how mandalorian's became a thing because of how popular Boba Fett was only for him to later be said "oh he wasn't mandolorian, he only stole the armor".
Yeah, I've never been super keen about that idea. Though I think he MUST be Mandalorian. Think about it. The idea is that Boba Fett took his dad's ship along with his beskar steel Mandalorian armor (well, most of it anyway) and painted it green, right? Well if he did all of that... why would he paint in and add the Mandalorian flag symbol on the shoulder of it if he wasn't Mandalorian? Jango didn't have any Mandalorian symbols on his armor... Boba would have had to add those himself.
The way I figure it, they can say Jango wasn't a Mandalorian... but Boba was taken in by the Mandalorians (like Dyn was) and raised as a Mandalorian after he lost his dad in Episode II. Given full rites, etc..
So we finally got confirmation in the latest episode that Mando's tribe were a bunch of religious zealots, hence the helmet rule. And seeing Bo Katan in live action was awesome.
And Katee looked great. She looked like 15 years younger than she looked in all of her appearances on Flash.
I'm guessing either the next episode or episode 5 is when we see Ahsoka.
Sounds like it. I'm getting a little worried they won't really "pull it all together" in time for the season finale. Every week they're, like, adding one more ball to juggle around.
CyberCubed
11-14-2020, 10:57 AM
Also these eps are getting shorter and shorter, the third episode was only 33 minutes long! I wonder if it's a budget thing. I remember the first season had all close to 50 minute eps if I remember right.
TurtleTitan97
11-14-2020, 11:26 AM
And Katee looked great. She looked like 15 years younger than she looked in all of her appearances on Flash.
It really bugged me how old the made her character on Flash looked. Major props to the make up crew on this show.
Also these eps are getting shorter and shorter, the third episode was only 33 minutes long! I wonder if it's a budget thing. I remember the first season had all close to 50 minute eps if I remember right.
You're remembering wrong. There's at least 3 episodes from season one that were around 30-36 minutes. Only episode that was the closest to 50 minutes was the season finale.
Zulithe
11-14-2020, 06:11 PM
Watching every week like clockwork, right at midnight. It's what I look forward to the most :lol:
I'm hoping we see more Boba this season, because I'm starting to wonder if they are going to push that plotline into season 3 before he gets his armor back.
Seeing Ahsoka in live action this season is going to be incredible.
Andrew NDB
11-14-2020, 10:31 PM
I'm hoping we see more Boba this season, because I'm starting to wonder if they are going to push that plotline into season 3 before he gets his armor back.
There's a lot to get to. Moff Gideon and the Darksaber, Ahsoka's introduction, getting Baby Yoda to the Yoda people, we know Carl Weathers is coming back, Gina Carano's character too, probably these 3 Mandalorians will come back... and we're already like halfway done with the season and the Mandalorian is still like doing side missions.
Leo656
11-17-2020, 07:09 PM
They're at it again. :roll:
https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-fire-gina-carano-backlash-controversy-disney-tweets/
Vegita-San
11-17-2020, 07:12 PM
so basically not a democrat, so lets cancel her.
It's pretty clear to anyone the dems have lost their minds over the last 4 years...smh
Leo656
11-17-2020, 07:18 PM
And when Tim Allen, Kevin Sorbo, Dean Cain and James Woods all but said exactly that - that if you're a Conservative in Hollywood they pretty much take your entire livelihood away - people laughed and accused them of being whiny bitches. But it's absolutely how things work now. "Fire them! Put them ALL on a list! Blame and Shame!" And so on and so forth.
It's just McCarthyism/"Red Scare" in reverse. Laughable, yes. Shocking, no.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-17-2020, 08:34 PM
They're at it again. :roll:
https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-fire-gina-carano-backlash-controversy-disney-tweets/
Y'know what? I disagree with her. In fact, I suspect her of being a moron.
But I don't want her fired. The woman has her right to her opinion. Plus, there's that whole idea of "freedom of speech", some fvcking thing we wrote into our Constitution on a whim. :trolleye:
Her only mistake is saying it publicly, because in this day and age, the wrong opinion gets ya canned.
Andrew NDB
11-17-2020, 08:45 PM
Y'know what? I disagree with her. In fact, I suspect her of being a moron.
Is it that moronic, though?
The actual tweet, broken down:
We need to clean up the election process so we are not left feeling the way we do today.
OK. If there are areas that could be tidied up, who would want to get in the way of that? The worst that can happen is it's thoroughly investigated, nothing dodgy is found, and then both sides can feel satisfied that elections are fool-proof.
Put laws in place that protect us against voter fraud.
I feel like there already are, but why be against this?
Investigate every state.
I would hope that we can trust each state to investigate themselves... but OK. Nothing wrong with impartial oversight. It just needs to be impartial, though.
Film the counting.
To a certain extent, sure. Why not?
Flush out the fake votes.
Goes without saying.
Require ID.
Definitely goes without saying. And it needs to be IDs in states that are vetted... WA here just had a real problem with this. Since we're a little loosey goosey with our IDs and Driver's Licenses, a lot of illegal immigrants can and do get them (I know about 100 here), so starting a while back you could only get on an airplane if you went and got an "Enhanced" ID/driver's license here. As in, show more proof you are who you say you are to the DOL. Definitely OK with someone showing the equivalent to vote.
Make Voter Fraud end in 2020.
I'd prefer it to end 20 years ago, if it's out there. But if it is, sure, absolutely.
Fix the system.
K. As opposed to breaking it further? Of course. Who would disagree?
And then she posts a funny meme about blindfolds to go along with masks. So what? I chuckled. I don't believe she is wishing DEATH upon anyone, or anything macabre like that.
Leo656
11-17-2020, 08:48 PM
Andrew's right. There's absolutely nothing offsides in that Tweet. But even if she is a "moron"... People are technically allowed to be "morons" as long as it doesn't affect their work.
I've worked with (and for) many, many stupid people. But they were good at their jobs. In a working environment, that's all that's supposed to matter.
I don't even watch the show, as I'm pretty much done with Star Wars. I just think it's comical how "The Tolerant Left" is going full blown Red Scare on anyone who's a Conservative. Right now they're "only" pushing for "The List"/"Blame and Shame", get 'em all fired and all that. But it won't be too long before "Throw 'em all in jail" becomes the mantra. And then "Kill 'em all, they're in the way of 'progress'."
A lot of 'em already do say that stuff. I know PLENTY who say it. Just privately/quietly. They're just waiting until it's acceptable to say it out loud in public. But rest assured, lots and lots of Liberals do think that Conservatives should either be thrown in jail or outright killed for their beliefs.
But they can't SAY that - yet - so "Get 'em all fired" is what they settle for. For now.
These are your so-called "good guys". Makes me sick.
Andrew NDB
11-17-2020, 08:52 PM
They're just waiting until it's acceptable to say it out loud in public. But rest assured, lots and lots of Liberals do think that Conservatives should either be thrown in jail or outright killed for their beliefs.
I see a lot of that in social media right now. People on the left are definitely trying to test the waters right now, lol ("anyone who was a Trump fan or supporter, anyone involved at all in that, we should NEVER forget it! they are evil and should be blacklisted... right?? you guys feel me, right??" and so on, etc., as if conservatives are the Nazis escaping WWII to go to Argentina), but there ARE a few I see stepping in like, "No, no no, we have to be better than that... you can't go around SAYING that" while also not actually telling them they're wrong about any of it.
**** off with your voter fraud, go whine in the joe biden thread. You guys are the thing you claim to hate.
Andrew NDB
11-17-2020, 09:00 PM
**** off with your voter fraud, go whine in the joe biden thread. You guys are the thing you claim to hate.
My voter fraud? I don't have any voter fraud. There may not be any or there might be and I'm hardly frothing or crying in the corner about anything.
*shrug*
Reminds me of the Voltron type of posters where you respond to a thread about something (generally political), and Voltron (or someone like him) would always respond with, "You guys just lose your minds in these posts! Hahah! I love it!" Like, really. Come over to my house. Come over to any of our houses. I'm, like, here halfway looking at the screen, halfway looking at the TV, probably munching on a sandwich, listening to music and editing footage fending away cats and dogs. I'll reply, but I'm not like invested in this. I promise you, I don't care. Really.
You seem way more angered than anyone on this side of the arena. And that's not the first time you've lobbied the "you are what you eat!" cyclical thing.
Leo656
11-17-2020, 09:02 PM
Every time I see a more moderate Liberal chastise an extremist for saying "Kill all the Republicans", the extremist merely fires back, "No, they're all Nazis so they deserve it." Some of them don't say "Kill all Republicans" but say "Kill all cops" instead... in which case their supposedly more moderate brethren don't even bother to chastise them. They're silently A-OK with killing cops, if not anyone who votes Republican.
It's the exact same stuff they always accuse "the racist and sexist Conservatives" of doing, just in reverse. The lesson being, "It's totally okay to kill someone for their beliefs, as long as their beliefs are 'in the way of progress'." Anyone deemed a "Nazi" is expendable.
Wonder if Biden's ever gonna "get in front of this" and denounce and decry his base from saying such things. Y'know, "tolerance and unity" or all'a that. Or if he's perfectly fine with huge chunks of his base saying that people they don't agree with should be fired/blacklisted/arrested/shot/etc.
Kinda think I know.
**** off with your voter fraud, go whine in the joe biden thread. You guys are the thing you claim to hate.
Go pop some more Molly, Raverboi. :lol::lol::lol: Grown-ups are talkin'.
My voter fraud? I don't have any voter fraud. There may not be any or there might be and I'm hardly frothing or crying in the corner about anything.
*shrug*
Reminds me of the Voltron type of posters where you respond to a thread about something, and Voltron (or someone like him) would always respond with, "You guys just lose your minds in these posts! Hahah!" Like, really. Come over to my house. Come over to any of our houses. I'm, like, here halfway looking at the screen, halfway looking at the TV, probably munching on a sandwich, listening to music and editing footage fending away cats and dogs.
You seem way more angered than anyone on this side of the arena.
Word. I was scrolling my "news" feed while eating dinner and this jumped out at me. I wasn't aware that observational posts were demonstrations of "anger". :lol: All I said was that modern-day Liberals are acting like McCarthy-era "Red Scare" Conservatives, and provided anecdotal evidence to support that observation.
Observation isn't "anger", kids.
Has nothing to do with the thread, people are trying to "cancel" Gina Carano is non-news, even the article states it's not going to happen. If it did happen and she had a compelling character then go ahead and complain but right now it's literally nothing. Now we have this boring political talk with the same 4 people instead of the Mandalorian and we already have dozens of active threads discussing the same thing. You are discussing politics on a fan forum of the 80s Kids show Ninja Turtles.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-17-2020, 09:13 PM
Is it that moronic, though?
You know what? I'll back down here. She may not be a moron.
But in my small little social circle of people I interact with and know well enough to make educated judgments, the people who believe in voter fraud also believe that Trump is a Bible-thumping Christian, and that the moon landing was faked.
(At this point, I'm afraid to ask those people if they still believe the Earth is round.)
So, as far as my snap judgment: until they prove otherwise, I think they're a moron due to association. For you and Leo and some others here? I've read enough of your thoughts, or messaged enough with you guys, to know better. I might not agree with your opinions, but I can at least credit you with intelligence and rational thinking.
Oh, and she's an actress. Lotta stupid actors and actresses out there. :tlol:
Leo656
11-17-2020, 09:15 PM
Well, c'mon... ain't Texas Gonna Texas, CKD? :trazz:
Now we have this boring political talk with the same 4 people instead of the Mandalorian and we already have dozens of active threads discussing the same thing. You are discussing politics on a fan forum of the 80s Kids show Ninja Turtles.
It's less "boring" than your constant terrible opinions and absolutely nothing else of relevance. :lol: You contribute about as much to this forum as Ben Shaprio contributes to Planned Parenthood. :lol::lol::lol:
Has nothing to do with the thread, people are trying to "cancel" Gina Carano is non-news, even the article states it's not going to happen. If it did happen and she had a compelling character then go ahead and complain but right now it's literally nothing.
People make entire THREADS about every passing headline under the sun in this sh*thole whether it's "news" or not. Every single day.
You yourself have written entire screeds about the Hanna-Barbera "shared universe" and trying to make it all "canon". :lol: C'mon, son. Don't you dare chastise anyone else for taking up space and wasting peoples' time when you've done plenty of that yourself, Champ.
If you're gonna finger-wag, at least be consistent.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-17-2020, 09:24 PM
Well, c'mon... ain't Texas Gonna Texas, CKD? :trazz:
Yeehaw, friend, and Gawd Bless Texas. :tlol:
Leo656
11-17-2020, 09:28 PM
Part of me wishes I lived in Texas. I'm a huge, huge fan of cowboy boots, big-ass belt buckles, and damn fine barbecue.
F*ck that humidity, though. :tgrumble: That's like the biggest thing that keeps me away. "105 in the shade" isn't something I'm alright with, even if I could ignore everything else. That's a hard "nope" from me, good buddy.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-17-2020, 09:49 PM
Part of me wishes I lived in Texas. I'm a huge, huge fan of cowboy boots, big-ass belt buckles, and damn fine barbecue.
F*ck that humidity, though. :tgrumble: That's like the biggest thing that keeps me away. "105 in the shade" isn't something I'm alright with, even if I could ignore everything else. That's a hard "nope" from me, good buddy.
Brother, believe me, the heat fvcking SUCKS. If you have a choice between being broke and going without A/C, you go broke. I drove for a summer without A/C, and it was motherfvcking brutal. Never again!
You'd make a damn good, Texan, though; you've got the attitude down pat. :tlol: :twink:
Leo656
11-17-2020, 10:01 PM
You'd make a damn good, Texan, though; you've got the attitude down pat. :tlol: :twink:
That's probably why I get along so well with so many people who live there! :lol:
"King of the Hill" is also one of my all-time favorite TV shows. I tell you what.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-17-2020, 10:04 PM
That's probably why I get along so well with so many people who live there! :lol:
"King of the Hill" is also one of my all-time favorite TV shows. I tell you what.
I really gotta get around to rewatching that, man. :tlol: Great damn show...
Sumac
11-18-2020, 02:46 PM
They're at it again. :roll:
https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-fire-gina-carano-backlash-controversy-disney-tweets/
And I thought I couldn't respect her more, after fighting against trans insanity. I hope, whatever happens, she will keep true to her opinion.
**** the Twitter mob and SJW.
Y'know what? I disagree with her. In fact, I suspect her of being a moron.
But I don't want her fired. The woman has her right to her opinion. Plus, there's that whole idea of "freedom of speech", some fvcking thing we wrote into our Constitution on a whim. :trolleye:
Her only mistake is saying it publicly, because in this day and age, the wrong opinion gets ya canned.
You are behind the party line: Constitution should serve only people with the "right" opinion.
Andrew's right. There's absolutely nothing offsides in that Tweet. But even if she is a "moron"... People are technically allowed to be "morons" as long as it doesn't affect their work.
I've worked with (and for) many, many stupid people. But they were good at their jobs. In a working environment, that's all that's supposed to matter.
I don't even watch the show, as I'm pretty much done with Star Wars. I just think it's comical how "The Tolerant Left" is going full blown Red Scare on anyone who's a Conservative. Right now they're "only" pushing for "The List"/"Blame and Shame", get 'em all fired and all that. But it won't be too long before "Throw 'em all in jail" becomes the mantra. And then "Kill 'em all, they're in the way of 'progress'."
A lot of 'em already do say that stuff. I know PLENTY who say it. Just privately/quietly. They're just waiting until it's acceptable to say it out loud in public. But rest assured, lots and lots of Liberals do think that Conservatives should either be thrown in jail or outright killed for their beliefs.
But they can't SAY that - yet - so "Get 'em all fired" is what they settle for. For now.
These are your so-called "good guys". Makes me sick.
Precisely.
I remember 4 years ago on one VERY progressive forum there was some trash, calling to execute all Trump followers. He was banned for few months, even though people who dare to go against "Holy Trans People" were banned permanently.
Which begs the question: how mane people do indeed thing like that, but just stay quiet and what will happen if they got to power?
Well, I know what will happen as my country was through this **** 100 years ago: mass executions, deportations, families and neighbors reporting each other for the "wrong side of party line".
It is sad that those "progressives" do not learn history. Or think that once they get the POWER, they will always be the ones who'll keep it.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-18-2020, 03:27 PM
You are behind the party line: Constitution should serve only people with the "right" opinion.
It's called sarcasm, buddy. Apparently I have to spell it out for you, so here goes:
The Constitution is not there to only apply to people with opinions I agree with. There is no "right" opinion; hence why we call it "freedom of speech."
Sumac
11-19-2020, 06:13 AM
It's called sarcasm, buddy. Apparently I have to spell it out for you, so here goes:
The Constitution is not there to only apply to people with opinions I agree with. There is no "right" opinion; hence why we call it "freedom of speech."
Sorry, sarcasm is hard to understand through the Internet, especially in this times.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-19-2020, 07:59 PM
Sorry, sarcasm is hard to understand through the Internet, especially in this times.
No worries, man. We're cool.
:tthumbsu:
Andrew NDB
11-20-2020, 04:25 PM
New episode is cool. They seem to be drawing it all together now. Looks like some heavy Dark Forces (the old PC game) influence here... I swear that Imperial base on the cliff looks exactly like a level from the game. Or was it Dark Forces II? One of them for sure, though I tried to look at some playthroughs on Youtube and can't find which one now. Very positive, though.
Also...
... looks like possibly... Snoke clones? Failed ones? And Dark Troopers from Dark Forces? And definitely they cloned Yoda to use his blood to make other clones (the Stoke clones?) Force sensitive, looks like.
CyberCubed
11-21-2020, 12:00 AM
Today's ep was alright but I don't care for any of these supporting characters. We have tough strong girl, token black guy, some blue-faced alien, meh.
The action sequences were superb though, looks just as good as the movies and it's likely on half the budget. But it is kinda grating knowing the story arc is so slow moving when there's only what...less than 10 eps a season? It's like they stretch things out purposely to get more seasons.
nylemon
11-24-2020, 01:38 AM
The chasing is good, but the base aisle fighting the storm troopers are awkward. I am getting tired of how stupid storm troopers are and how easy to deal with these guys :-?
People are happy about the meme which two scout troopers can not shoot in the previous season finale, I don't like it though. That was just because the first movie came out in 1977, the action design was not developing at that time, it is the limitation of industry, that is Disney who makes it some f**king comedy jokes.
Remember how Ja Ja was not liked by fans when the first Anakin movie came out. Now stupid jokes are so acceptable by audience. I will be fine with the conflict how the storm troopers' fighting skills vary between different series. All I need is making them at least trained skillful and not so that stupid.
Besides, about Mando's not taking off helmet drinking, that's kinda deliberated.(I know he is a die hard code follower but that just looks strange)
nylemon
11-27-2020, 07:32 AM
Wow, Chapter 13 is pretty solid.:thumbsup:
TurtleTitan97
11-27-2020, 08:28 AM
Loved how this episode felt like a Samurai flick. And Rosario looked and acted great as Ahsoka.
NinjaPug
11-27-2020, 09:30 AM
That met my high expectations. Great intro scene for Ahsoka.
CyberCubed
11-27-2020, 09:46 AM
Ahsoka looked good in live action and the actress that played her did it really well. Wouldn't be surprised if Ahsoka gets her own live-action series in the future.
Wow. Rosario Dawson knocked it out of the park as Ahsoka! Seriously that was a definitive and immersed performance...
I am hoping that the newest little Yoda quest leads to Luke showing up in the season 3....
CyberCubed
11-27-2020, 01:10 PM
I am hoping that the newest little Yoda quest leads to Luke showing up in the season 3....
I don't see how that would be possible unless they cast a new actor and nobody would really want that.
Jester
11-27-2020, 01:26 PM
Grogu?!?!?
Panda_Kahn_fan
11-27-2020, 02:13 PM
Loved the episode, the references to the previous animated series gave me chills. Ashoka was a little flat, but she moved the story on. I am finally happy to know Grogou's name and backstory now. And the Thrawn reference was awesome. All in all, a really fantastic episode.
*sigh* look, I'm not knocking the sequel trilogy here at all, but the galaxy that most of these series (clone wars, rebels, and now the Mandalorian) are creating, is simply not the galaxy we see in the sequel trilogy at all. In the ST, Luke is the last jedi after ROTJ, and the only one who can restart the jedi order. In the Filoni-verse we have Ashoka, Ezra Bridger, Cal Cestus, Quinlan Vos, and who knows how many other order 66 survivors still running around post-ROTJ. As we see from her dialogue in The Mandalorian, Ashoka seems to consider herself aJedi once again, so I see her joining up with any new order. Heck, even the game Jedi: fallen order even implies YADDLE might have survived.
In the sequel trilogy, Luke waited many years, learning more about the order and it's history, before starting up an academy with his first thirteen students. the last jedi implied it was Luke's inexperience that led to his nephew's fall and the massacre of his other students. Here, there is no reason the other order 66 survivors would not come together, and help Luke form the new Jedi order in the early years after ROTJ. By the time Ben Solo falls to the dark side and becomes Kylo Ren (supposing he even falls with the other masters and knights helping Luke train the new students) Kylo Ren would have been cut down and killed by the combined might of other Jedi masters and students as soon as he made the hut he and Luke were in explode. The sequel trilogy relies on Luke being the last Jedi after ROTJ, and I am sorry, but that is just no longer the case.
And I do NOT see Disney killing profitable characters like Ashoka and Grogu off just to shoehorn the Mandalorian in with a series of movies that is no longer turning them a profit like those characters are now. Add in other details from the show- like Moff Gideon trying to make force-sensitive clones long before the sith cultists were making palapatine and snoke clones on exegol, and the introduction of Tython,the EU's home planet of the Jedi order, instead of the sequel trilogy's ach-to. I believe more and more we are headed into a stars wars multiverse, with the Mandalorian branching off from the Squel Trilogy timeline.
CyberCubed
11-27-2020, 02:28 PM
The Mandalorian only takes place a few years after episode 6, whereas the sequel trilogy takes place 30 years later. There's a big enough time gap for a lot of things to change. Not everyone has to die either, just they stop being relevant.
30 years is a long time. Just compare 1970 to 2000 in real life and look how much changed in our world.
I like that not every episode has to be an ongoing story. I love seasonal arcs but the past decade seasonal arcs feel like a chore to go through since it's almost as if 5 part episodes got stretched into a full season to be "epic". I miss the days of characters having one off adventures and a recurring plot that unfolds slowly. People complain they are fillers but they aren't, they're mini movies in a way.
*sigh* look, I'm not knocking the sequel trilogy here at all, but the galaxy that most of these series (clone wars, rebels, and now the Mandalorian) are creating, is simply not the galaxy we see in the sequel trilogy at all.
In their defense (and trust me I don't want to defend Disney. This is bound to happen with Expanded Universe material if we want to make interesting stories set in the years between/during movies. You can enjoy the movies by themselves or enjoy the tv series by themselves but when you want things to make perfect sense they don't. That's why there were tiered canons when George Lucas owned Star Wars, like yeah the other stuff did happen in a way but it's the movies that count, those other things are extra and might mean that something in the movies don't make too much sense.
I do think the Disney EU is going to be working hard to make up for the sequel trilogy and we'll get retcon after retcon to somehow fix it. I'm not sure how they'll do it but they'll continue to do it. The old EU also helped fix many of the criticisms of the prequel trilogy; granted fixing the sequel trilogy is easier said than done, I'm not even sure how they'll do it but they'll attempt it.
Andrew NDB
11-27-2020, 03:00 PM
What gave me unexpected chills was the mention of
Grand Admiral Thrawn.
So that's where they're going. Very unexpected.
NinjaPug
11-27-2020, 04:26 PM
I’m curious what their plan for Thrawn is now. Would finding him be a main part of the rumored Ahsoka series? I don’t think Thrawn has a connection to what is going on with Gideon or anything else related to Mando.
It could also just be a nod to what they set up at the end of Rebels. Hopefully we get more live action Ahsoka and hopefully Thrawn in the future.
I don't see how that would be possible unless they cast a new actor and nobody would really want that.
Why not? This is only so many years before the Force Awakens, and they had Hamil play a Luke who was running the Jedi school, training Kylo Ren in flashbacks in the Last Jedi. And those flashbacks were even closer to the Mandalorian time period than TFA.
They could definitely have Hamil show up and play Luke. :)
Chris
11-27-2020, 06:25 PM
The TLJ flashbacks were set 6 years before TFA, so much closer to the ST time period than to Mando so it’s not just a case of getting Hamill back, they’d need to de-age him as well. Not saying it won’t happen (and I totally think they’d de-age Hamill rather than recast), just saying it’s not as easy as just convincing him to return, there would be VFX costs as well.
If the story goes in that direction I expect they’d do it (and as a fan that would be amazing), but I’m not sure that’s where they’re heading.
Andrew NDB
11-27-2020, 07:46 PM
I’m curious what their plan for Thrawn is now. Would finding him be a main part of the rumored Ahsoka series? I don’t think Thrawn has a connection to what is going on with Gideon or anything else related to Mando.
Maybe he does. Perhaps the "Dark Force" of clones from the 2nd book, "Dark Force Rising" are being replaced by the Dark Troopers we saw at the end of the last episode. And if Grand Admiral Thrawn is out there, Moff Gideon is answering to him for sure.
I'm just... not sure a satisfying Grand Admiral Thrawn mega story can be achieved either from the Mandalorian's perspective or Ahsoka's. It would need to be a bigger thing, like a movie or a trilogy.
CyberCubed
11-27-2020, 08:31 PM
There's no way they would de-age Mark Hammil for a full episode. Way too costly. Again, this show only takes place a few years after episode 6. Luke is only 30 something in this time period.
Roseangelo
11-27-2020, 09:07 PM
We won't see Luke. This show is drawing heavily from Clone Wars and Rebels. I haven't watched Rebels, but I believe what we can expect to see in the upcoming episodes will be linked to that show.
CyberCubed
11-27-2020, 10:16 PM
Its already taken stories from Rebels, and Ahsoka and Thrawn's stories here continue directly from that show.
We won't see Luke. This show is drawing heavily from Clone Wars and Rebels. I haven't watched Rebels, but I believe what we can expect to see in the upcoming episodes will be linked to that show.
I would say that both things could happen, no?
Don't get me wrong, I'm with you completely that this show is a gateway continuation to Filoni's other Star Wars material, but why does that rule out a Skywalker appearance? Be it either with Hamil or someone like Sebastian Stan as Luke? I'm not bettin' the bank on it, but it is a possibility!
Andrew NDB
11-27-2020, 11:09 PM
I would say that both things could happen, no?
Don't get me wrong, I'm with you completely that this show is a gateway continuation to Filoni's other Star Wars material, but why does that rule out a Skywalker appearance? Be it either with Hamil or someone like Sebastian Stan as Luke? I'm not bettin' the bank on it, but it is a possibility!
Yep, Sebastian Stan as Luke, dude from Solo as Han, dude from Solo as Lando, Chewie actor from last couple of ST movies and Solo, MacGregor back as Obi-Wan's ghost, Frank Oz still around to do the voice of Yoda's ghost... that's 90% of the cast there. They just need a new Leia. No CGI needed at all.
Roseangelo
11-27-2020, 11:29 PM
but why does that rule out a Skywalker appearance? Be it either with Hamil or someone like Sebastian Stan as Luke? I'm not bettin' the bank on it, but it is a possibility!
Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.
Andrew NDB
11-27-2020, 11:31 PM
Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.
Kathleen Kennedy is, for sure. Too "problematic."
Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.
Kathleen Kennedy is, for sure. Too "problematic."
All I can say is that I haven't financially rewarded Star Wars as an I.P. since I began basing strong opinions on what I've seen and heard from Kathleen Kennedy and what I saw with The Last Jedi.
Disney Star Wars won't get a dime from me as long as she's on board that ship. I thought the Force Awakens was fine - I had high hopes for the franchise based on the Force Awakens. But then Kennedy started her extremist ******** and TLJ came out and that was that.
But Filoni and Favreau are purists. I can see them pushing for a Luke appearance, if only to put a badass Jedi Master Luke on screen even once. I can also see this not happening as well, lol!
I can see Luke appearing as a cameo either through CGi, Deepfake or new actor. Nothing more than that in The Mandalorian since it's not his story.
I do feel the longer the show goes for and the stakes are risen the less sense it'll make that this took place before The Force Awakens, in a way it'll make that trilogy worse.
Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.
Disney will continue to milk the $kywalkers for as long as they can. No doubt Episode X will have an older Rey eventually continuing the "rise" of the Skywalker line, hell maybe by then it'll be retconned she was actually a real Skywalker.
ZariusTwo
11-28-2020, 03:23 AM
hell maybe by then it'll be retconned she was actually a real Skywalker.
I see Rey ultimately falling just as Anakin did. She's a Palapatine and there is far too much dramatic potential out of making her the Empress than someone who appropriates the Skywalker legacy.
Sumac
11-28-2020, 03:50 AM
KK won't allow it.
Rey is "example of how strong feale characters should be" in their eyes, can't desecrate that.
Andrew NDB
11-28-2020, 04:05 AM
Rey as the new Empress with the Second Order. They attack the New New Republic in Episode X and the New New Republic becomes "Rebels" again.
Blegh. I can see it now.
Andrew NDB
11-28-2020, 04:06 AM
Rey as the new Empress with the Second Order. They attack the New New Republic in Episode X and the New New Republic becomes "Rebels" again. More TIE Fighters and X-Wings and Millennium Falcon going through tunnels.
Blegh. I can see it now.
CyberCubed
11-28-2020, 10:13 AM
Sebastian Stan looks nothing like a young Mark Hammil. Where is this coming from?
Sebastian Stan looks nothing like
I wouldn't say this is true at all. There is definitely a resemblance there - enough that he could carry the role.
It's something that's been kicked around in fan circles and became the topic of nerd media articles. Even Mark Hamil himself made a comment that implies that there is a connection there.
CyberCubed
11-28-2020, 01:54 PM
The mere fact that they never even made a CG cartoon with Luke/Han/Leia says enough in itself. They could easily adapt the comics made during the original trilogy or directly after episode 6 into a new cartoon for Luke/Han/Leia but for some reason they never do it.
I'm not sure why exactly. Everyone wants to see new adventures of Luke and everyone outside of comics but they never give them any cartoons/shows ever for some reason. You just have to read comics/books to see that but not everyone wants to read so most tend to forget it exists.
The mere fact that they never even made a CG cartoon with Luke/Han/Leia says enough in itself. They could easily adapt the comics made during the original trilogy or directly after episode 6 into a new cartoon for Luke/Han/Leia but for some reason they never do it.
I'm not sure why exactly. Everyone wants to see new adventures of Luke and everyone outside of comics but they never give them any cartoons/shows ever for some reason. You just have to read comics/books to see that but not everyone wants to read so most tend to forget it exists.
The answer to this is obvious, Cubed but if I give it, it's just going to sound like I'm trying to go back and forth with you. Give it some thought, consider when Star Wars in animation really began in earnest and how the 80's animation before it was looking for property offshoots. I mean... it's obvious as to why, brother.
The short of it is that there is a fandom that wants to see Luke as a bad ass Jedi in his prime, outside of the whiny boy and the doddering old guy who does nothing in the new flicks. There wasn't any reason in the previous plan to give the O3 any more time in animation given the way Star Wars as an IP has unfolded.
If Ruin Johnson didn't come on board and we had a bad ass Luke, Leia and Han movie recently, then you'd bet there'd be something in animation.
CyberCubed
11-28-2020, 04:57 PM
None of that has to do with a series set during the OT trilogy era or directly after it. There's canon Star Wars comics since 2015 that feature Luke/Han/Leia in new stories and we'll never see those animated.
TLJ is 30 years in the future, it has nothing to do with the characters having stories in their prime. Likewise Luke's role on the island was already set up by Lucas and JJ, it has nothing to do with Rian.
None of that has to do with a series set during the OT trilogy era or directly after it.
Well that's exactly what it has to do with! That's exactly the point I was trying to lead you through without saying it. A franchise has to be currently lit to get ancillary material most of the time. For an OG animated series of some kind the iron would have to have been hot for it now with the 3rd trilogy, but they didn't capitalize on the original cast, bud! That's the point.
And the Clone Wars was capitalizing on what was known to younger fans then - the prequel trilogy. And that's when Star Wars became a mover again in animation - with the Clone Wars. And with the recency of the prequel trilogy of course they were going to go with the clone wars. Audiences have recency bias and Hollywood capitalizes on it.
And so to set an animated series either during the original trilogy or immediately after it using the O3, then the O3 would've needed star exposure from the new films, which they didn't get. They weren't even on screen together. That's how Hollywood works.
i'm sure we'll see cartoons with the OT cast sooner rather than later, they obviously don't care about wacky stories with the cast if the canon Marvel comics have been any indication.
When will Disney dump SWs Detours comedy show? The show has a full season of finished episodes that Disney acquired from Lucas ready to release, can't do more damage than the sequel trilogy. Could even be good. That's the real question.
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Zulithe
11-28-2020, 10:30 PM
Because Disney is finished with the Skywalkers.
I suspect someday we'll get a story about Luke's life during his jedi temple period and we'll learn Mara Jade was a part of Luke's life, and fled with Luke's son from the temple as it was being destroyed. Maybe Luke thought she was dead all this time, or felt he had to distance himself from them the same as he was with everyone else. Anything can happen, Star Wars loves to pull this sort of thing :lol: This is why they very intentionally are vague on so many things, so they can fill it in as needed later.
Skywalkers are only as done as Disney wants (or makes) them to be. Rey aside.
frank_one
11-29-2020, 05:36 PM
Talking about Mara Jade, who I just met in the game Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith, I wonder if we will ever see the reintroduction of Kyle Katarn in the canon.
Andrew NDB
11-30-2020, 05:29 PM
Like Gina Carano, now the same SJWs are going after Rosario Dawson for "transphobic" stuff, trying to cancel her:
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/rosario-dawson-mandalorian-backlash-anti-trans-lawsuit-1234601227/
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-30-2020, 05:43 PM
Like Gina Carano, now the same SJWs are going after Rosario Dawson for "transphobic" stuff, trying to cancel her:
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/rosario-dawson-mandalorian-backlash-anti-trans-lawsuit-1234601227/
Seems really, really bizarre to see people go after Dawson over what sounds like complete BS.
Leo656
11-30-2020, 06:57 PM
Rosaria Dawson is an incredibly attractive woman who knows she's an incredibly attractive woman. She keeps herself fit and likes when people notice. She understands that many people who look at her are going to think about her in a sexual context, and is okay with that, and doesn't lean away from roles which sexualize her. She specifically did not wear a bra on purpose for a scene in "Clerks II" where she had to dance; this was not something she was asked to do, but something she chose to do, and explained it by saying, essentially, "That one's for the boys."
Basically, she's everything the Leftist Feminist Brigade hates. Her very existence reminds them of everything they aren't, and they feel bad about themselves when they see an attractive and intelligent woman who isn't afraid of being sexy. They're jealous, because they're overweight and unshaven and unfortunate-of-face or whatever else or any combination of those things, and so they see someone like her and cannot stand that she even exists. How dare she be attractive! How dare she be successful! Worst of all, how dare she be sexy! Doesn't she understand that women like her who embrace their attractiveness and sexuality make it HARDER for the couch potatoes with hairy armpits to hang onto their self-esteem? They know that if given the choice, any guy would always take someone like Her over someone like Them, and they find that "unfair".
Therefore, she is The Enemy. And to "level the playing field", the "We have EVERY right to be fat and slovenly!" brigade has to find SOME thing to attack her for. They need her off the board. She wrecks the curve. I mean, in theory they COULD just fix themselves, because self-improvement is a virtue, but they don't see it that way. "We shouldn't HAVE to, dammit! People should just accept us the way we are, even if we're fat, or have mustaches, or runaway body hair that makes us smell like hamburger meat when it's hot out! We shouldn't have to be 'conventionally attractive', people should just accept that we're slobs and deal with that!" Yeah, well... they don't. Deal with THAT.
I mean, you have to notice when the Feminazis go after someone, it's never someone who looks like Them. It's always someone hot. That's not by accident. It's just their way of lashing out at anyone who makes them feel "inferior". "You're better than me, and that hurts my feelings, because you're in a place I'll never be. And rather than get off my ass and try to improve myself, I'd just as soon see YOU not exist." And if there is no reason, they'll invent one.
A girl I knew well went to UMass. Through her and her friends, I learned a LOT about "feminism". And there is NOTHING a "modern, liberated feminist" hates more than a hot chick who's successful. They can't stand them, and will do absolutely anything to get rid of them. If they had their way, Wonder Woman would be 300lbs with hairy pits. Any woman who takes care of herself and keeps fit may as well be committing a hate crime, the way they see it. There's no reasoning with those types of people. They're lunatics.
This may come off as rather harsh, but only because it's 100% true. I've seen and heard way too much about how those people think, up close and personal. They have an agenda, and it involves wiping the Earth of good-looking people so they can sit around and stink without anyone judging them. By Any Means Necessary.
It's gross.
I suspect someday we'll get a story about Luke's life during his jedi temple period and we'll learn Mara Jade was a part of Luke's life, and fled with Luke's son from the temple as it was being destroyed. Maybe Luke thought she was dead all this time, or felt he had to distance himself from them the same as he was with everyone else.
This is brilliant, man. I hope this happens.
Seems really, really bizarre to see people go after Dawson over what sounds like complete BS.
You aren't just now noticing how bizarre this is? Quite a bit of it has been BS for years now......
And even when it isn't BS, it isn't general society's right or place to play judge jury and executioner. We do that with the ebb and flow of our dollars, not by sabotaging livelihoods. This has been bizarre for years, brother.
Rosaria Dawson is an incredibly attractive woman who knows she's an incredibly attractive woman. She keeps herself fit and likes when people notice. She understands that many people who look at her are going to think about her in a sexual context, and is okay with that, and doesn't lean away from roles which sexualize her. She specifically did not wear a bra on purpose for a scene in "Clerks II" where she had to dance; this was not something she was asked to do, but something she chose to do, and explained it by saying, essentially, "That one's for the boys."
Much of this might be true, but she's also a "thinking actress". She creates characters and she plays them incredibly well. Her Ashoka Tano was amazing in one single TV episode she established a definitive role, especially based on what was previously an animated character. I'd vote that she RDJ'd it with Iron Man, or Harrison Ford' it with Indiana Jones. Honest to God, I thought she was amazing.
Leo656
11-30-2020, 07:30 PM
Haven't seen it, but I can buy it. She's definitely a good actress, I've been a fan of hers for a while and not just because she's hot. That definitely helps, but that's not all of it.
As to why The Left would suddenly try and attack her, though... that's what it comes down to. "She's hot, she wrecks the curve, thus she must be eliminated by any means necessary." People said it was weird that she'd be a target, I was merely explaining where it comes from, that's all.
and not just because she's hot.
Sin City.... yeesh! Great flick too....
Andrew NDB
11-30-2020, 10:05 PM
She was also the only good part in "Alexander."
You know which part...
She was also the only good part in "Alexander."
You know which part...
I haven't seen it!
Oh geeze, just by coincidence I ran into this on YouTube. Look at that... looks terrific as Luke!
https://i.imgur.com/I9ONCrhl.jpg
Leo656
11-30-2020, 10:12 PM
She was pretty good in "Death Proof", but good Lord, I am not into feet and Tarantino really needs to talk to someone about that stuff.
Andrew NDB
11-30-2020, 10:25 PM
She was pretty good in "Death Proof", but good Lord, I am not into feet and Tarantino really needs to talk to someone about that stuff.
Well on by that point, and given the nature of "Death Proof" as a Grindhouse thing, Tarantino was aware of people pointing that out and just sort of said "f*** it* and owned it. Probably the most "in your face" Tarantino foot thing was Salma Hayek's performance in "From Dusk Till Dawn."
I really dig Rosario, though. She has a certain disarming sensuality about her in just about every performance... yet can flip around and be a kind of scary rage monster, too. Also, a lot of actors and actresses, you can enjoy their performances but for many (and the "behind the scenes"/interview type stuff too) you just know that if you were ever in a room with them, you would be beneath them. I feel like the Rosario Dawson who shows up to shoot for Oliver Stone or Tarantino is probably the same Rosario Dawson who would, like, have a pizza with her buddies.
Does anyone have any guesses as to who they'll cast as Grand Admiral Thrawn? Surely it'll be a Name, as they'll be having Gus from Breaking Bad taking orders from him. Once upon a time as a kid I figured that an icy cool (as in, not jokey Bond swagger mode) Roger Moore would have been picture perfect. But that was some time ago.
Leo656
11-30-2020, 10:29 PM
I hope Kurt Russell got his shots after. That's all I'm sayin'.
Andrew NDB
12-01-2020, 01:22 AM
I honestly had no idea she was in that 90s "KIDS" movie.
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Mayhem
12-01-2020, 02:53 AM
Does anyone have any guesses as to who they'll cast as Grand Admiral Thrawn?
Given they went with Katie Sackoff for Bo-Katan, they could quite easily have a look at Lars Mikkelson for Thrawn... face might not be angular enough though.
Didn't they make Thrawn into a loser in Rebels?
TurtleTitan97
12-01-2020, 08:49 AM
Didn't they make Thrawn into a loser in Rebels?
I thought he was fine on the show, personally.
CyberCubed
12-01-2020, 09:01 AM
Didn't they make Thrawn into a loser in Rebels?
From what I remember he didn't even get that much screentime, he was introduced fairly late into the series when it was nearly ending.
Leo656
12-01-2020, 01:15 PM
I honestly had no idea she was in that 90s "KIDS" movie.
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Yeah, I remember reading that somewhere way after I saw it on video.
That movie was f*cking terrible. :lol:
nylemon
12-04-2020, 07:00 AM
Boba Fett kicks ass. He's more like the boy when he honor his father than the grown man which is a pure bounty hunter work for Jabba
TurtleTitan97
12-04-2020, 09:29 AM
Boba kicked ass in this episode. Nice that we also finally got confirmation his father was a Mandalorian.
CyberCubed
12-04-2020, 09:36 AM
Boba Fett makes his first real return in 2020. I wonder if they'll have him track down Han somehow.
Roseangelo
12-04-2020, 02:59 PM
I have never liked Boba Fett. Kinda dug him here.
CyberCubed
12-04-2020, 04:46 PM
It's funny how the fans meme'd both Darth Maul and Boba Fett to survive their fates in the movies and come back to life, so to speak. Then I realize it's 30 years later so the people writing the stories now were the fans who grew up with the originals and now they're basically having all their fanfiction dreams become a reality.
Andrew NDB
12-05-2020, 12:26 AM
Saw this episode. Wow, that was great! Shesus... this season has already given me like everything I wanted to see already. In one episode it accomplished something the movies never did, which was make Boba Fett a badass. And it's so perfect to see Temuera back -- and of course it should be him.
Boba Fett makes his first real return in 2020. I wonder if they'll have him track down Han somehow.
It'd be fun for them to cross paths but I don't see any real need. The only one owed Han Solo was Jabba, who is dead. There is nobody for Boba to return Han to.
CyberCubed
12-05-2020, 01:10 AM
The interesting things is a few years ago there were movies rumored for Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Yoda and Obi-wan...and it seems all those ideas were merged into TV series instead.
Boba Fett and Ahsoka appeared here (and I'm sure Ahsoka is getting her own spinoff in the future, they didn't cast her in live-action just for a few short roles), and Yoda more or less became baby Yoda. And of course we have the Obi-wan series coming next year sometime.
We'll probably see Thrawn in live-action next season, along with more of the cartoon characters cast in live-action from Clone Wars and Rebels. Maybe even Cal Kestis from the videogames.
Andrew NDB
12-05-2020, 03:20 AM
The Boba Fett movie was very real, not a rumor. Josh Trank was working on it heavily until Simon Snitchberg got it buried because of his behavior on the Fantastic Four set. Also, the Obi Wan series is still very much happening... it just apparently changes shape every few months (number of episodes and so on)?
garsh
12-06-2020, 11:28 AM
With the Razor Crest destroyed, I'm restless to know what they have planned for a future ship.
It was great seeing Boba finally living up to his original image. I guess after the prequels, with Jango and all, I had given up the thought of any such thing ever happening.
Otherwise, this episode was straining my limits for camp. The Jedi forcefield was too dazzly to take seriously, and the dark trooper droids came off just as cartoonish. The cyborg midriff was cringe, along with the "in his debt" trope. And the trooper who didn't bother to try to get out of the way of the boulder? It gave me a flashback of watching Prometheus. It's like they forgot they were making a live action show.
Andrew NDB
12-06-2020, 02:45 PM
With the Razor Crest destroyed, I'm restless to know what they have planned for a future ship.
Maybe he will be gifted Boba's Slave II?
Otherwise, this episode was straining my limits for camp. The Jedi forcefield was too dazzly to take seriously
We've seen Jedi Forcefields before ("Attach of the Clones," on Obi Wan). And cyborg midriffs are hard to get worked up in a post-Darth Maul-survived-being-cut-in-completely-in-half universe.
Maybe he will be gifted Boba's Slave II?
We've seen Jedi Forcefields before ("Attach of the Clones," on Obi Wan). And cyborg midriffs are hard to get worked up in a post-Darth Maul-survived-being-cut-in-completely-in-half universe.
I thought the episode was great, but I have to say that I thought the manifestation of the Force around the kid was a bit much. And fat Boba Fett with his gut hanging out of the armor was borderline hysterical in a moment that was supposed to be a bad ass return.
But those observations aside, love this show and thought the episode was great. I don't know about the "honorable Boba Fett" though. The guy is a scumbag to the core - no need to play him up as an anti-hero.
Again, some criticisms, but I thought the episode was great.
Andrew NDB
12-06-2020, 05:07 PM
And fat Boba Fett with his gut hanging out of the armor was borderline hysterical in a moment that was supposed to be a bad ass return.
Yes, yes... there is that ooone super distracting shot where his torso is kind of hunched back while he points his fist forward... WHOMP, there's kind of just all this belly suddenly front and center. They could have done so many things different there... alternate angles, cropping, etc..
#1: Boba Fett would have gotten skinnier inside that Sarlacc Pit, not fatter.
#2: I understand that Temeura Morrison had relatively short notice between, "Hey would you be interested in reprising Boba Fett?" and "Hey, we shoot in 3 weeks"... but could they not have just used a skinnier stunt double for certain shots? They do that for the main Mandalorian all the time!
I don't know about the "honorable Boba Fett" though. The guy is a scumbag to the core - no need to play him up as an anti-hero.
Where is the "scumbag to the core" coming from? The cartoons? I haven't seen him in those yet. I certainly didn't get "scumbag to the core" from the movies, or even what of him in the old EU "Legends" I read.
CyberCubed
12-06-2020, 05:32 PM
Boba Fett never appeared in any of the cartoons. This is his first appearance in the new canon since Episode 6.
Andrew NDB
12-06-2020, 05:38 PM
Boba Fett never appeared in any of the cartoons.
That's not true. I saw a clip of him trying to kill Mace Windu with a bomb and all. Had to be Clones or Rebels.
Boba Fett never appeared in any of the cartoons. This is his first appearance in the new canon since Episode 6.
That's not true. I saw a clip of him trying to kill Mace Windu with a bomb and all. Had to be Clones or Rebels.
Boba Fett's first appearance ever was in a cartoon. Also, Andrew you're right - he had a few long arcs actually in the Clone Wars cartoon. He appears as a Teenager and runs around with a cohort of Bounty Hunters - even though he is a kid he's shown to be the most vicious and savvy among them.
Boba Fett as a scumbag thing IIRC comes from some of the content from the OT - he disintegrates people he's fighting without any regard and I think there are a few lines here and there that sort of define who these bounty hunters are, although I can't remember if it's words in content or words in inflection. But I always saw a picture painted that those guys, Fett the top amongst them - where the height of "scum and villainy" in the Universe. Cantina kinda guys. :)
Leo656
12-06-2020, 09:16 PM
And fat Boba Fett with his gut hanging out of the armor was borderline hysterical in a moment that was supposed to be a bad ass return.
I guess someone got confused, and thought it was "Boba FATT" and not "Boba FETT"? :lol::lol::lol:
.......Alright, that was terrible even by my standards. Sorry about that.
I guess someone got confused, and thought it was "Boba FATT" and not "Boba FETT"? :lol::lol::lol:
.......Alright, that was terrible even by my standards. Sorry about that.
They should've said that in the show, but then it would've been the Orville.
nylemon
12-06-2020, 10:55 PM
Young Boba Fett was teamed up with a group which one of the member is the female assassin appeared on the cliff when young Anakin was having a race in Tatooine. I remember he had some complicated emotions due to seeing Jango Fett been head cutted but still he is like pure bad. Maybe something happened to him after he's eated by that sand plant creature. Hard to get used of how "moral" he is now.
CyberCubed
12-06-2020, 10:56 PM
If you meant kid Boba Fett than yeah he appeared, but I thought you meant post-episode 6 Boba Fett.
Clone Wars was prequel era obviously and in Rebels he never appeared as far as I remember.
If you meant kid Boba Fett than yeah he appeared, but I thought you meant post-episode 6 Boba Fett.
Clone Wars was prequel era obviously and in Rebels he never appeared as far as I remember.
Boba Fett's first appearance, as an adult and in armor, was in animation while riding a giant dinosaur....
CyberCubed
12-07-2020, 08:25 AM
Boba Fett's first appearance, as an adult and in armor, was in animation while riding a giant dinosaur....
Nobody is talking about some old thing from the 80's, but the modern canon cartoons.
Nobody is talking about some old thing from the 80's, but the modern canon cartoons.
:lol:
Oh.
Nobody is talking about some old thing from the 80's
some old thing
old thing from the 80's
Nobody is talking about
Angry much, misanthrope? j/k Cubed, I know you're alright somewhere in there....
Roseangelo
12-07-2020, 04:29 PM
Nobody is talking about some old thing from the 80's, but the modern canon cartoons.
Mando's pronged blaster is taken from that cartoon, though.
Mando's pronged blaster is taken from that cartoon, though.
Yup. They also mentioned the Mesosaur (I think that's what it was called) when he is learning how to ride those two legged things that Kuiil teaches him to ride. Is that the dinosaur Fett rides in that Special?
Roseangelo
12-07-2020, 07:30 PM
Yup. They also mentioned the Mesosaur (I think that's what it was called) when he is learning how to ride those two legged things that Kuiil teaches him to ride. Is that the dinosaur Fett rides in that Special?
No, I think those were from an Ewok movie.
No, I think those were from an Ewok movie.
The Mesosaur or the thing Fett was riding?
I haven't watched the Ewok flicks since we recorded them off the T.V. on a VHS tape when I was a kid.
I wonder if I could even make it through those flicks now?
The ewok movies are 80s made for tv kids fantasy films, if you're expecting something else they could be hard to get through.
The ewok movies are 80s made for tv kids fantasy films, if you're expecting something else they could be hard to get through.
Yeeesssssss.... that's kind of what I remember. Sort of like... more "Dark Crystal" and less "Star Wars", right?
Yes but also lower budget and worse plot, I like them, they're odd and dark but I'm biased for Ewoks because I wouldn't call them great.
Andrew NDB
12-07-2020, 09:26 PM
The ewok movies are 80s made for tv kids fantasy films
Were they really made for kids? The first one, OK... but the second one is pretty damn grim. Like the whole little girl's family and her brother get butchered right away.
nylemon
12-08-2020, 09:06 PM
I find the latest episode was directed by Robert Rodriguez no doubt the action is good. I think Mando will not have a big action like the female sniper since the actor wear a bulky helmet. There are some "minor" unnatural when you see Mando walk some "steps" in some episodes.
CyberCubed
12-09-2020, 09:50 AM
Seems a lot of speculation is that Thrawn and other characters from Rebels like Ezra will show up in Season 3, which would be pretty expected.
It's funny, The Mandalorian just feels like a live-action version of the cartoons. Clone Wars, Rebels and now The Mandalorian all feel similar due to the same director/creator and if you watch them all back to back you feel like you're getting this huge Star Wars mythos outside the movies.
People always made fun of the old EU for having so many Jedi during the time when there weren't supposed to but now the new EU is just as crazy with Jedis running around during all periods. "The Last Jedi" my ass when you have Ashoka, Ezra, and all those other "not Jedi's because of a technicality"
I'm glad Boba Fett is a mandalorian again, it was always retarded that the guy who popularized the idea of mandalorians wasn't one anymore. I have no idea what Lucas was thinking. This is the type of changes that are actually good, Dave Filoni really gets Star Wars.
I just read an interview of how Lucas didn't intend on directing any of the sequel trilogy, he would've let others do stuff like in the original trilogy. It would've been the best of both worlds. Lucas with full control of everything gave us the prequel trilogy but it's still someone taking his ideas and making something amazing out of them. Lucas basically said, "I was afraid of being too involved if I didn't sell it, so I thought by selling to Disney they would take my ideas and do something great with them but instead they did something entirely different"
CyberCubed
12-09-2020, 10:45 AM
I mean it makes sense not every single Jedi was killed in Order 66. Aren't there like 1,000+ or even 10,000 Jedi out there all scattered across the galaxy on numerous planets? It doesn't make sense they would all die immediately.
And besides that many of them going into hiding or exile and there's no way to tell who is a Jedi and who isn't. So it actually makes more sense more survived.
Andrew NDB
12-11-2020, 04:50 PM
Quite the ensemble this episode! Nice to see it's all been "building"
CyberCubed
12-11-2020, 10:13 PM
I hope they don't kill off Moff Gideon in the finale because it feels like he's barely done anything yet. And a real waste of talent of the actor if he goes next week. I guess we'll see.
Andrew NDB
12-11-2020, 11:02 PM
My FB feed is pretty funny. It's pretty obvious everyone on the left previously cheering on The Mandalorian wants to again, really badly... but they know, "I can't, because my own kind will eat me because this show has Gina Carano and she said bad things about transexual people!" so they don't say anything.
Roseangelo
12-11-2020, 11:29 PM
My FB feed is pretty funny. It's pretty obvious everyone on the left previously cheering on The Mandalorian wants to again, really badly... but they know, "I can't, because my own kind will eat me because this show has Gina Carano and she said bad things about transexual people!" so they don't say anything.
My left-ish friends went south real quick on the idea of Shuri becoming the Black Panther now because I guess the actress made some anti-vaccine tweets or something. Oy.
Andrew NDB
12-11-2020, 11:30 PM
My left-ish friends went south real quick on the idea of Shuri becoming the Black Panther now because I guess the actress made some anti-vaccine tweets or something. Oy.
Yep, yep! That too, as a matter of fact! Funny you mention that.
CyberCubed
12-11-2020, 11:43 PM
I don't care for Gina's character or actress and find her kinda boring. She basically has one expression the whole show. I wouldn't mind if she just doesn't appear after this season.
I don't care for Gina's character or actress and find her kinda boring. She basically has one expression the whole show. I wouldn't mind if she just doesn't appear after this season.
Yup. I hate that valid opinions like this can get lost amidst everything being based on perceived political spectrum nowadays, but I agree.
I didn't mind her character at first, but we had even more space-ninja in this episode. She literally knocks two troopers out immediately by punching them while they each wore an armored helmet. It's honestly too much to suspend disbelief. It's easier to buy into the puppet Yoda baby than it is this knocking people out with one punch when they are wearing combat helmets. And to top it off, it's not... what? 3 minutes later that Mando, wearing the Trooper helmet takes a guy down by head butting him. But Mando isn't knocked out.
Seriously, the space ninja part of all of this? ehhhhhh......
CyberCubed
12-12-2020, 03:39 PM
Well she’s also just kinda boring.
Andrew NDB
12-13-2020, 04:34 PM
Saw some rumors and at first I just shook my head at them... but on further thought? Eh... maybe?
Basically a lot of scuttlebutt that maybe the "move" is to kill off the Mandalorian (perhaps he dies heroically saving Baby Yoda) and replace him with Fett. Like, they wouldn't even need to change the name or anything, as two episodes ago made clear.
TurtleTitan97
12-13-2020, 05:52 PM
Saw some rumors and at first I just shook my head at them... but on further thought? Eh... maybe?
Basically a lot of scuttlebutt that maybe the "move" is to kill off the Mandalorian (perhaps he dies heroically saving Baby Yoda) and replace him with Fett. Like, they wouldn't even need to change the name or anything, as two episodes ago made clear.
Sounds like a load of bantha dung, tbh.
Roseangelo
12-13-2020, 08:56 PM
Saw some rumors and at first I just shook my head at them... but on further thought? Eh... maybe?
Basically a lot of scuttlebutt that maybe the "move" is to kill off the Mandalorian (perhaps he dies heroically saving Baby Yoda) and replace him with Fett. Like, they wouldn't even need to change the name or anything, as two episodes ago made clear.
Yeah, that's a big no.
nylemon
12-13-2020, 08:59 PM
Sounds like a load of bantha dung, tbh.
True that.
NinjaPug
12-18-2020, 06:32 AM
That CGI deaging.....woof.
Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2020, 06:59 AM
Okay, this episode was AMAZING. Awesome fights, awesome drama, awesome plot resolution and set-up.... along with an epic intro and fight scene for a fan-favorite character. Why oh Why couldn't the sequel trilogy have done this; no subverting expectations, no pushing new characters at the expense of the old. Why did it take a TV show almost a decade after the Lucasfilm buyout to just give the fans what they WANTED?
And sorry, there is NO way this show leads into the events of sequel trilogy, NO...WAY. Sorry, no one's arguments on here can convince me otherwise, so don't even bother.
TurtleTitan97
12-18-2020, 08:43 AM
That CGI deaging.....woof.
Was definitely a little rough around the edges, to be sure.
That being said, HOLY CRAP LUKE F**KING SKYWALKER IN THE BLOODY FLESH!!!! AND FREAKING R2-D2!!!
I was so sure it was somehow going to be either Ezra or an entirely new Jedi, but this is even better.
ZariusTwo
12-18-2020, 08:45 AM
That CGI deaging.....woof.
Yeah, not as polished as, say, the unofficial Indie deepfakes I've seen, and voice was a little off, but eh, I'll take it.
This is the true sequel saga so far. Up yours Abrams.
CyberCubed
12-18-2020, 09:13 AM
The CG looked fine to me, what are you guys expecting? It was only for a few short scenes, now if he had an entire episode it might be a little jarring but the camera wasn't even on his face most of the time.
The last scene with Boba Fett was great too. I guess it's confirmed Boba Fett is taking over the show, although I imagine the Mandalorian will still be around. Bib Fortuna surviving the end of Episode 6 to die here was pretty funny too.
I don't understand why she didn't just take the Dark Saber, it's an extremely stupid rule when nobody else there actually cared. If there is a Season 3 I guess we'll see some sort of resolution to that.
As for Luke, remember the other movies take place around 30 years later, so everything still fits in from this point till then.
NinjaPug
12-18-2020, 09:17 AM
I'm hoping the Book of Boba Fett is a spinoff series and not tied to Mando S3.
Didn't Sabine hand the dark saber over to Bo in Rebels? My memory is hazy but pretty sure she did so not sure what the difference here is.
TurtleTitan97
12-18-2020, 09:17 AM
The CG looked fine to me, what are you guys expecting? It was only for a few short scenes, now if he had an entire episode it might be a little jarring but the camera wasn't even on his face most of the time.
The CG is fine, it just looks rough compared to Tarkin in Rogue One
The last scene with Boba Fett was great too. I guess it's confirmed Boba Fett is taking over the show.
No he isn't. The last scene confirmed that the rumors of Boba getting his own show are true. Season 3 of Mandalorian is set for Christmas 2021.
nylemon
12-18-2020, 09:26 AM
So I am confused that The Book of Boba Fett is not a book? It's a TV show? It's the book to run a hybird criminal group in Tatooine? I was thinking a book to sell to fan boys and would taking a year to release in the first place.
Boba Fett taking over the mandalorian sounds lame, making a spin-off series makes more sense.
CyberCubed
12-18-2020, 09:58 AM
It's a TV show, its already been announced.
I'm also surprised Thrawn didn't appear at all, I was expecting a teaser of him at the end of the episode. I'm sure we'll see Thrawn in live-action eventually, maybe in the Ahsoka series.
All these shows announced are for the most part set in the same timeframe so in way its all one big show.
And sorry, there is NO way this show leads into the events of sequel trilogy, NO...WAY. Sorry, no one's arguments on here can convince me otherwise, so don't even bother.
But sadly it is, shows us the potential a sequel trilogy could've been but this is dave filoni, he made stuff in the prequels matter more and make more sense. i think he's working on making the sequel trilogy be better somehow, and sadly again its all we can hope for
ZariusTwo
12-18-2020, 10:47 AM
But sadly it isr
Let's just wait and see.
Autbot_Benz
12-18-2020, 10:53 AM
Hopefully when my Brother comes up for Xmas I can get a profile on his Disney + and binge the rest of S1 and S2.
See what happens when you get people who love star wars working on the show instead of untalented hacks IE Kennedy Abrams and Johnson.
Let's just wait and see.
I despise the sequel trilogy but this is as silly as those who wanted Disney to remake the prequels after TFA came out.
Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2020, 12:12 PM
To those saying this will still lead into the sequel trilogy; still don't but it.
Reasons I don't buy this series and it's spin-offs will tie into sequel trilogy;
1) there is no sign of the first order here, instead we have the imperial Remanent under Moff Gideon's command, who it appears is under the authority of grand admiral thrawn. Since thrawn has survived into this era, I doubt we are going to see the stupid incompetence of the first order. Thrawn hated planet killers, and would never approve star killer base, nor would he allow the first order to grow and thrive on the back door of his beloved Chiss ascendancy.
2.) They left Grogu with Luke for a REASON. They could have had him go with Ezra or Ashoka, but the specifically made the choice to put this popular, merchandisable character with LUKE, the guy in the sequel trilogy who has his Jedi temple destroyed, and all of his students killed. Luke is going to train him, and I very much doubt there going to do an ass pull to undo a major moment of this season finale by having grogu run away from Luke to go back to Djinn, or have him killed during Kylo's massacre in the future. Sorry, They are NOT going to have Ashoka, Ezra, Grogu, Cal Cestus, Quinlan Vos and any other survivors all keel over dead/quit to be jedi so Luke can be the 'Last Jedi' in the sequel trilogy. I think we are actually going to see Luke successfully rebuild the Jedi Order in this series of shows.
3.) The trio of Filoni/Favaeru/Lucas shows have been said, in the Lucasfilm press release, to all be set in the TIMELINE of the mandalorian.... not TIME FRAME, TIMELINE. The Ashoka show is using symbols of the world between worlds in the title, a key way of altering the timeline set up in a previous Filoni Star Wars show. It is said this trio of shows would lead to an 'EVENT', and I believe that event will be the altering of the timeline.
Guys, I don't think they are going to erase the sequel trilogy, but I do believe we are going to establish a star wars multiverse with the world between worlds. This show and Grogu have been highly profitable for this franchise popularity and merchandise wise, and flushing that goodwill and profitability down the sewer for three movies whose profitable product cycle is over, and whose continued existence is keeping many people and their money away from the franchise. I believe these three shows will branch off into their own timeline, while Rouge Squadron, and the other movies and shows will continue the sequel trilogy universe (acyole, andor, and Bad batch exist before the timeline split, so it's irrelevant to them.) If star Trek could divide it's timeline for two universes, I seriously doubt Star Wars would turn it down if it meant more $$$ from people who don't care for the Sequel Trilogy. And you can't say Star Wars wouldn't do that, when Rebels opened the door for it. The veil of the force/world between worlds wasn't introduced for nothing.
TurtleTitan97
12-18-2020, 12:23 PM
Anyone who seriously thinks they're going to retcon the Sequels through these shows is just setting themselves up for disappointment.
And I say this as someone who acknowledges that they're flawed films. I guarantee by the time the next Star Wars trilogy begins, everyone who grew up on these films are going to praising it the way some people are currently praising the prequels. The cycle never ends.
Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2020, 12:28 PM
Anyone who seriously thinks they're going to retcon the Sequels through these shows is just setting themselves up for disappointment.
And I say this as someone who acknowledges that they're flawed films.
Not retcon, no. Split the timeline, like the Star Trek 2009 reboot did with the main timeline. There is a lot of profit to be made from a decision like that, and creatively it frees Filoni/Lucas/Faverau up to tell whatever story they wish, rather than building towards an end game that divided the fanbase. Meanwhile, the sequel trilogy timeline remains intact for Kathleen Kennedy to exploit any way she wishes.
Personally, Ithink they will split the timeline, then move the Filoni-verse New Republic, Thrawn's imperial remanant, and Luke's jedi order towards a war with the Grysk (the Yuzzan Vong replacements introduced in Timothy Zahn's canon Thrawn novels) in the unknown regions.
TurtleTitan97
12-18-2020, 12:35 PM
Not retcon, no. Split the timeline, like the Star Trek 2009 reboot did with the main timeline.
That would be even worse.
creatively it frees Filoni/Lucas/Faverau up to tell whatever story they wish
Bold of you to assume Lucas would even want to come back to another SW film after all the crap fanboys gave him over the prequels. It's no wonder he sold Lucasfilm in the first place.
Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2020, 12:46 PM
That would be even worse.
Bold of you to assume Lucas would even want to come back to another SW film after all the crap fanboys gave him over the prequels. It's no wonder he sold Lucasfilm in the first place.
Who said anything about a movie? I didn't even mention a Film. I included Lucas because, according to several reports, he has been helping/consulting with Faverau and Filoni in the production of the mandalorian. If they do make these shows a split timeline, I'm not even sure if they would make any theatrical movies in the filoni-verse, and save the theatrical films for the Kennedy-verse/ Rey timeline.
TurtleTitan97
12-18-2020, 12:49 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree, then.
Panda_Kahn_fan
12-18-2020, 12:55 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree, then.
Fair enough. :)
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