Marvel Studios Daredevil Born Again [Archive]

Leo656

07-23-2022, 09:44 PM

I sure hope not between Born Again and Guardian Devil the character was brutalized. The show kept her alive and did not drag her down to a drug addicted porn actress. She remained flawed yet independent while the storylines were used.

I can't help but notice that you really can't handle it when anything bad happens to a comic book character. :lol:

You're aware Stories require Conflict and that character development travels in arcs, right? :trazz:

I'm razzing, it just seems like sometimes your preference would be for every story to be like, "The Good Guys beat up the Bad Guys and then they all went to Denny's", and that things would never go deeper than that.
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But yeah, no, they'd never do that with Karen Page. I am quite sure that neither heroin nor porn even exist in the MCU. :lol:

Andrew NDB

12-22-2022, 05:34 PM

Cox talks the tone. Eh, says "Can we appeal to a slightly younger audience without losing what we’ve learned about what works?"

https://www.darkhorizons.com/cox-talks-daredevil-revival-tone-filming/

AquaParade

12-22-2022, 05:40 PM

I’m honestly not sure I could take another season of Netflix Daredevil. As awesome as it was, it did start to feel like it was repeating itself.

I think a slight change of tone could good be a way to keep things fresh. Problem is I don’t trust current MCU to do it. Thinking of the Moon Knight series practically makes me queasy. The tone is off-putting to me. It wants to be serious but it’s dumbed down and stuffed with crap.

I’m looking forward to this series, but I’m flipping it off and dropping out at the first sign of purple magic cgi.

Andrew NDB

01-26-2023, 11:33 PM

I wish I didn't read this.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/01/26/rumored-writers-for-upcoming-daredevil-born-again-series-raise-multiple-red-flags/

Dpooly84

01-27-2023, 12:20 AM

I wish I didn't read this.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/01/26/rumored-writers-for-upcoming-daredevil-born-again-series-raise-multiple-red-flags/

I saw this but the mcu has already delivered a better Wilson Fisk than Netflix so...?*??

Andrew NDB

01-27-2023, 01:57 AM

I saw this but the mcu has already delivered a better Wilson Fisk than Netflix so...?*??

One that has more superpowers and yet gets taken out by a rookie and shot in the face by a deaf woman in his first appearance? You're going to have to explain that a little bit.

The correct answer is that this the same character that was on Netflix. And we know this because they keep telling us this over and over and over again. But...

Dpooly84

01-27-2023, 01:06 PM

I'm a missing something? They've stated over and over again that Netflix marvel isn't Canon, they're in a separate universe.

Andrew NDB

01-27-2023, 01:08 PM

I'm a missing something?

The back-to-back interviews for the better part of a year and a half now.

They've stated over and over again that Netflix marvel isn't Canon, they're in a separate universe.

No, never stated. Find me where Feige said that, because he hasn't.

Dpooly84

01-27-2023, 02:24 PM

https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-netflix-daredevil-canon

Here's one

Dpooly84

01-27-2023, 02:32 PM

I've read multiple articles now and it seems to bounce back and forth. My only point is I like Wilson Fisk wearing his classic white suit and having super powers. The Netflix shows were good but I felt like they tried to ground the character to much for my liking. I don't need my super hero shows to be ultra realistic.

Andrew NDB

01-27-2023, 02:44 PM

https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-netflix-daredevil-canon

Here's one

Nope, doesn't say anywhere in there from Feige that Netflix isn't canon.

FrederikWolferson

01-28-2023, 02:29 PM

I doubt Marvel can actually do something dramatic now,so this will end up as another forced-comedy-everyone-quips mess.

Coola Yagami

01-28-2023, 04:26 PM

Autbot_Benz

01-28-2023, 04:46 PM

Kingpin had superpowers?

no Kingpin never had powers he was just super strong

Coola Yagami

01-28-2023, 09:16 PM

no Kingpin never had powers he was just super strong

That's what I thought.

Dpooly84

01-29-2023, 12:46 AM

Kingpin had super strength, the powers coment came from Andrew's post

Autbot_Benz

03-07-2023, 01:37 PM

Bernthal is back as Frank Castle/Punisher

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-casts-jon-bernthal-punisher-1235342229/

Jon Bernthal is returning to his most punishing role. The actor will reprise Frank Castle, aka anti-hero The Punisher, in Marvel Studios’ Daredevil: Born Again, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.

Andrew NDB

03-07-2023, 01:57 PM

Bernthal is back as Frank Castle/Punisher

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-casts-jon-bernthal-punisher-1235342229/

That's fantastic news.

Coola Yagami

03-07-2023, 02:48 PM

That's fantastic news.

Don't dance just yet Andrew. He might be the new sword using version with the alien skull thing.

AquaParade

03-07-2023, 03:35 PM

I am shocked by how many episodes they committed to. I wonder what that was about.

Dpooly84

03-07-2023, 04:00 PM

Don't dance just yet Andrew. He might be the new sword using version with the alien skull thing.

I would throw a real life hissy fit lol

Coola Yagami

03-07-2023, 04:02 PM

I would throw a real life hissy fit lol

But I mean, you can't glorify the police and right wingers that love that logo. Something simply must be done. :roll:

Andrew NDB

03-07-2023, 04:18 PM

Don't dance just yet Andrew. He might be the new sword using version with the alien skull thing.

That'd be f***ed off for sure. If anything they'd just avoid the skull/logo entirely.

Autbot_Benz

03-07-2023, 04:30 PM

But I mean, you can't glorify the police and right wingers that love that logo. Something simply must be done. :roll:

That's one of my favorite comic panels. Frank telling Cops to stop idolizing him. Id love to see Bernthal do that in a show.

https://i.imgur.com/Q5o6U8C.png

Andrew NDB

03-07-2023, 05:28 PM

Yeah, that sucks. You'd think they could find enough room for a small appearance for them, at least, within 18 episodes.

Dpooly84

03-07-2023, 05:35 PM

I'm actually happy Karen is out lol I'm so over seeing her ugly cry in every episode.

Autbot_Benz

03-07-2023, 05:44 PM

I'm actually happy Karen is out lol I'm so over seeing her ugly cry in every episode.

I hated Karen Page in the netflix show. Almost everything that happened in that show was her fault.

Andrew NDB

03-07-2023, 05:51 PM

I'd assumed we'd see Foggy for sure. Are we just not going to see Murdock practice law in this, or if we are then it'd be with Foggy always absent? No way they'd recast.

ProphetofGanja

03-07-2023, 06:33 PM

I hope they're both able to come back in season 2 or something, or pop up somewhere else in the MCU where it would make sense, they were great in the Netflix show

AquaParade

03-07-2023, 06:59 PM

Idk about this show. If it’s not something completely fresh for Marvel, I don’t want it. It won’t be movie quality and it’s not gonna be the Netflix show. If this is just another Disney+ quality show, I’m not going to be interested.

Andrew NDB

03-07-2023, 07:53 PM

They kept talking about how "mature" Moon Knight was. This better be way more mature than that.

Autbot_Benz

03-07-2023, 11:41 PM

Bernthal seems to confirm it with this Instagram post

https://i.imgur.com/wiVMqvE.png

AquaParade

03-08-2023, 08:39 PM

That’s interesting, but…

Am I the only one who finds it hard to care? Not trying to pick on this show in particular again, but with every MCU announcement, my reaction is “So?”

When was the last time they out put something great?

I don’t say this as a hater, I say this as someone who’s watched some of these MCU films more times than I should admit. They have to do something great again before I care about anything

Anyway, I’ll let everyone enjoy stuff now.

MikeandRaph87

03-08-2023, 08:48 PM

I am selective in what I watch. I tried watching all the shows, but I found myself not able to get past the first episode of Jessica Jones I was so turned off and hate watched Iron Fist wishing they would all be locked up in the CEO office and everyone shoots each other dead and was so bored with Luke Cage I forgot to watch beyond the first episode. Yet Daredevil, Captain America 2: The
Winter Soldier and Gaurdians of the Galaxy blew me away in how much I loved them and Spider-Man was not involved at all. They just happened to find the right tone in each to reel me in with characters I don't follow. I don't understand why it's expected that people would watch beyond a favorite character being featured honestly, but it's just my opinion. Character being featured is the main draw and the tone is second.

Dpooly84

03-10-2023, 04:23 PM

Vanessa has been recast, does that mean Foggy and Karen will be too?

Andrew NDB

03-10-2023, 04:48 PM

Vanessa has been recast

That's too bad. Probably a scheduling thing.

AquaParade

03-10-2023, 05:52 PM

This….

This is not fine.

Andrew NDB

03-30-2023, 02:07 AM

"Will retain Netflix's edge."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-retains-netflixs-edge/

Barkworm

03-30-2023, 02:17 AM

I can't find the time to watch any shows these days but this particular Daredevil story used to be one of my favourites back in the day. I might try to check out some episodes.

Andrew NDB

04-04-2023, 12:17 AM

So same dude playing Foggy may be in it after all.

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-now-rumored-to-bring-back-daredevil-star-spoiler-after-all-a201440

Dpooly84

04-04-2023, 01:51 AM

So same dude playing Foggy may be in it after all.

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-now-rumored-to-bring-back-daredevil-star-spoiler-after-all-a201440

Again as long as they recast Karen I'm fine. I hate her ugly cry face they force into every episode.

Andrew NDB

01-12-2024, 11:03 PM

Yes!

https://www.darkhorizons.com/henson-woll-return-for-new-daredevil/?fbclid=IwAR2oLU3RULQiKcXZAOwhDKpgSDnCnF052yn3lLNO EonW_P-XthgYenhTn3g

CyberCubed

01-12-2024, 11:52 PM

The guy banned above was another alt? He's been here since 2019?

Andrew NDB

01-13-2024, 12:17 AM

The guy banned above was another alt? He's been here since 2019?

And he's been banned for like a year. And no, I think he just got too heavy handed in some responses to others.

XERO

01-14-2024, 01:51 AM

Yes!

https://www.darkhorizons.com/henson-woll-return-for-new-daredevil/?fbclid=IwAR2oLU3RULQiKcXZAOwhDKpgSDnCnF052yn3lLNO EonW_P-XthgYenhTn3g

I'd laugh in humorous rage if they just showed up to get killed in the first episode.

Andrew NDB

01-17-2024, 03:03 PM

Some interesting info:

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again---new-details-about-the-shows-overhaul-revealed-not-everything-from-netflix-is-canon-a208906?fbclid=IwAR2oLPKiekKUUhGtJadvfkXdjUXDYTS-He9pyMQwVmwCFTyCPvSC-BpD6Es#gs.90447e.3r0plm

Sounds like the 18 episode season will have a big break in between it, like a year, and the only reason this isn't considered 2 seasons is because of contractual obligations.

chad

01-17-2024, 03:29 PM

https://twitter.com/DDevilUpdates/status/1747443563078496403

Andrew NDB

01-17-2024, 03:55 PM

https://twitter.com/DDevilUpdates/status/1747443563078496403

So... Bullseye?

chad

01-17-2024, 03:58 PM

So... Bullseye?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up at some point within the 18 episodes.

chad

01-18-2024, 02:13 PM

When Daredevil: Born Again was first announced, Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige told the audience at San Diego Comic-Con's Hall H that the series would feature 18 episodes later. Now nearly two years after that initial announcement, the series has undergone a sizable creative shakeup. In addition to naming The Punisher scribe Dario Scardapane as the show's new showrunner, Moon Knight helmers Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead are now sitting in the helmer's chair for all new episodes. As things stand, fans are no longer guaranteed that healthy 18-episode order.

"The amount of episodes keeps fluctuating, so I don't really know the number that we're at right now. But it seems like there are a few shows that could work with more episodes, then some that just need eight or 10 or six. Echo is like five," Daredevil: Born Again star Vincent D'Onofrio tells us.

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/daredevil-born-again-episode-count-changing-fluctuating/

Andrew NDB

01-18-2024, 02:34 PM

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/daredevil-born-again-episode-count-changing-fluctuating/

Well, it better not be significantly less than 18. Especially if that article I posted saying there will be a big year-long break in the middle between halves is true.

chad

01-19-2024, 05:38 PM

[QUOTE][Coming off the strong opening of Echo, its crime series centered on Indigenous and deaf anti-heroine Maya Lopez, Marvel next turns its attention to Daredevil: Born Again, which restarts production Monday after a lengthy hiatus.

Philip Silvera, who acted as stunt and fight coordinator on the Netflix version of Daredevil that ran in the mid-2010s, has returned to the fold to act as stunt coordinator and second unit director for the new series.

/QUOTE]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-resumes-filming-echo-1235793539/

The article also confirms that the show will now be less than 18 episodes. On the plus side, yay to the stunt coordinator/fight coordinator coming back!

chad

01-22-2024, 11:18 AM

Filming resumes today.

https://twitter.com/king_spyk3/status/1749469537706348832

chad

01-23-2024, 02:44 PM

So... Bullseye?

He’s coming back with the same actor from the Netflix series, which is cool!

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1749889121810620898?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Andrew NDB

01-23-2024, 02:48 PM

He’s coming back with the same actor from the Netflix series, which is cool!

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1749889121810620898?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

That's great news! Perfect. This is exactly what I wanted to see. I hope he's a fully realized Bullseye now, and we're not afraid of seeing people in costumes.

MikeandRaph87

01-23-2024, 07:58 PM

Filming resumes today.

https://twitter.com/king_spyk3/status/1749469537706348832

Glad to see that Bullseye is allowed to return. The show had an aversion to costumes for reason I don't understand as good as the show is not enough time has been allowed for Daredevil to be in-costume and Bullseye has yet to be seen in-costume properly.

Andrew NDB

01-23-2024, 08:12 PM

Glad to see that Bullseye is allowed to return. The show had an aversion to costumes for reason I don't understand as good as the show is not enough time has been allowed for Daredevil to be in-costume and Bullseye has yet to be seen in-costume properly.

Everybody was adverse to costumes at Netflix. Daredevil got a decent costume, then a costume upgrade to then spend the whole 3rd season back in his dumb black garb. Jessica Jones, nope. Luke Cage or Iron Fist? Nada. And Punisher very, very sparingly sported even the skull on his shirt/vest.

Now if they can just un-recast Vanessa.

chad

01-23-2024, 08:36 PM

Deadline confirmed the report of Bullseye. Article says he’s slated to appear in three episodes.

https://deadline.com/2024/01/daredevil-born-again-wilson-bethel-bullseye-marvel-disney-plus-1235803004/

So besides Cox, D’Onofrio, and Bernthal, we have Henson, Ann Woll, the fight/stunt coordinator, and Bethel.

As Andrew NDB mentioned, they should just go with Ayelet Zurer as Vanessa. I mean, it’s strange to have multiple cast/crew back, but not her. Then again, it’s also strange that Feige wanted a creative overhaul, but multiple episodes previously shot before the change in direction are being kept.

Andrew NDB

01-23-2024, 08:42 PM

If they don't waste his time, 3 episodes could be plenty of Bullseye.

but multiple episodes previously shot before the change in direction are being kept.

It doesn't sound like they're keeping whole episodes at all, just certain scenes or set pieces that could be workable around.

MikeandRaph87

01-23-2024, 10:10 PM

Andrew NDB

01-23-2024, 10:44 PM

Some shows like Power Rangers or Daytime Soaps film in blocks. In other words multiple episodes are filmed simultaneously by scene and three to four episodes worth of a certain film location are shot. I wonder if that filming format was used? If so certain scenes are easier to be kept in and built around.

If I had to speculate, they probably salvaged some courtroom scene stuff that could still be relevant. And now they can build new action scenes around that stuff, night time stuff, stuff with Foggy and so on. Also anything connected to Kingpin becoming mayor probably was salvaged. We knew that was going to be the plan even before the strikes and Feige firing everybody.

Oh hey, I wonder if there's any chance Rosario Dawson will be in it? Also, I read today that Krysten Ritter said she'd love to be in it but hasn't gotten the call... but there was already plenty of stuff saying she was in it before the strike. Probably being coy, unless they removed her from it.

IMJ

01-24-2024, 10:46 AM

Everybody was adverse to costumes at Netflix.

If "creators" have an aversion to "costumes" then they are creative at all and shouldn't be creators.

chad

01-24-2024, 11:22 AM

It’s rumoured Karen will only show up in three episodes, which bums me out a bit, but better than her not showing up.

https://twitter.com/DDevilUpdates/status/1750187553091686498

chad

01-26-2024, 10:19 AM

Set photos:

https://twitter.com/WingFinn48/status/1750895093215637651?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1750895093215637651%7Ctwgr% 5E0847ef1a4f4d422bfc72d6957854d08b83082da2%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomicbookmovie.com%2Ftv%2Fma rvel%2Fdaredevil%2Fdaredevil-born-again-set-photos-tease-shows-villain-and-confirms-fan-pleasing-change-after-creative-overhaul-a209065
https://twitter.com/WingFinn48/status/1750885568630636984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1750885568630636984%7Ctwgr% 5E0847ef1a4f4d422bfc72d6957854d08b83082da2%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomicbookmovie.com%2Ftv%2Fma rvel%2Fdaredevil%2Fdaredevil-born-again-set-photos-tease-shows-villain-and-confirms-fan-pleasing-change-after-creative-overhaul-a209065

Andrew NDB

01-26-2024, 03:23 PM

I wish there was more known about Jon Bernthal's Punisher in this. Just a cameo, or are we talking like a major supporting role?

Autbot_Benz

01-28-2024, 07:34 PM

I wish there was more known about Jon Bernthal's Punisher in this. Just a cameo, or are we talking like a major supporting role?

We still don't know how the Punisher will factor into the show, but Daniel Richtman has heard that the character will have a substantial part to play.

According to the scooper, Castle already had a pretty big role prior to the reshoots, but the recent overhaul expanded his storyline to include a subplot in which the ultra-violent vigilante "hunts dirty cops that use his symbol."

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/jon-bernthals-punisher-rumored-to-have-a-bigger-role-in-daredevil-born-again-following-overhaul-a209088#gs.4969i5

Andrew NDB

01-28-2024, 07:41 PM

Which would be strange because he's only ever worn the skull like twice in this continuity... and he murdered anyone that saw him wearing it, anyway.

Autbot_Benz

02-06-2024, 10:26 AM

Bullseye's Costume

https://i.imgur.com/UL3AQTI.jpeg

neatoman

02-06-2024, 10:47 AM

Bullseye's Costume

https://i.imgur.com/UL3AQTI.jpeg

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Is the target symbol really too much to ask for?

Andrew NDB

02-06-2024, 11:46 AM

Yeah, that's disappointing. That's, like, exactly what you'd expect out of Netflix previously. A non-costume.

BornAgain

02-06-2024, 11:52 AM

We don’t even know if this is the final version of the suit. If it is, he could rip off the mask and have the logo carved into his face or something for all we know. Guy is nuts.

I’d like to see the classic suit pulled off for sure but I’m not yet confident it would even work in this show. I’m going to wait before judging the look, because that’s the least of my worries when it comes to a Disney-Marvel product right now.

Autbot_Benz

02-06-2024, 11:54 AM

Daredevil's new suit for Born Again

https://i.imgur.com/Apnnb3i.jpeg

Andrew NDB

02-06-2024, 12:07 PM

We don’t even know if this is the final version of the suit.

If he's only in it for 3 episodes then I doubt there's going to be wardrobe changes for him.

If it is, he could rip off the mask and have the logo carved into his face or something for all we know.

Like the Colin Farrell Bullseye from the 2003 movie? They definitely are not doing that.

You know, just a little bullseye on the forehead was all that was needed. If they didn't want it printed on the material then like an embossed metal pin or something.

Daredevil's new suit for Born Again

https://i.imgur.com/Apnnb3i.jpeg

So... same Netflix suit, but "poppier" coloring with what looks like micro shading? And still no "DD" on the suit, unless you count the belt buckles.

LOTS of pics here:

https://www.justjared.com/2024/02/06/charlie-cox-films-daredevil-scenes-stunt-actors-spotted-shooting-a-fight-sequence/

Wow, if that doesn't look like Daredevil Season 4, I don't know what does. Also, I don't think we'll see a HUGE bit of Daredevil vs. Bullseye in this. If this is really picking up from the end of season 3, surely Bullseye would have it way more out for Mayor Fisk and his cohorts, no? If anything, it'd just be Daredevil trying to get in his way.

BornAgain

02-06-2024, 12:50 PM

I feel like a more visceral scar across the entire face is what they’d go for. Something that’s hard to look at rather than something than makes you chuckle and cringe at the same time.

Just a guess though. Don’t get me wrong, I love the classic Bullseye suit. It doesn’t make much sense but I love the sleek ninja aesthetic. It’s simple but effective. I tend to leave some room for translation when it comes to grounded adaptations.

That said I did assume he’d end up with the Daredevil suit he wore in season 3 and could have converted that into something more comic-like for himself.

MikeandRaph87

02-06-2024, 04:47 PM

Here is a crazy idea, what if Dex takes on the Sin Eater storyline as it is already being inspired by not being direct in adaptations anyway. It could bring investigative journalism mystery to his return and Karen encounters the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Eddie Brock and a teaser of Spider-Man. Okay, I know it won't go that way, but it would be great if it did.

BornAgain

02-08-2024, 07:51 AM

Yeah you could pretty easily make that a great Daredevil story and I doubt we’ll see it used in a Spider-Man film. Cool idea.

ZariusTwo

02-09-2024, 01:45 AM

Bullseye looks like a GI Joe.

CyberCubed

02-09-2024, 06:45 PM

Why does it seem like this is low budget?

Andrew NDB

02-09-2024, 06:49 PM

Why does it seem like this is low budget?

It might be a bit that. But Netflix, THAT was low budget. This might just end up being somewhat less than what was originally planned, since they're shooting a lot of things twice. And stuff like Bullseye's costume... well... they didn't even know Bullseye was going to be in it until Feige fired everybody and had most of it rewritten and reshot.

It really makes you wonder what the original take on Born Again would have been, had there been no strike and production just rolled on through. Seems like possibly a... much lighter-toned courtroom procedural (probably not as jokey or 4th wall as She-Hulk but something approaching that), with a B story of Kingpin as mayor and like one fight as Daredevil at the end of the season?

Andrew NDB

02-10-2024, 06:10 PM

Apparently Bernthal may have bailed out before the overhaul:

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/the-punisher-star-jon-bernthal-reportedly-hated-daredevil-born-again-before-creative-overhaul-a209297?fbclid=IwAR1LTDmCSMB4pMWGrmLMzFx3IScksX4mp k6hd3qMY-DdOxq5FKkSvalyf60#gs.e276.4uj41y

BornAgain

02-11-2024, 06:45 AM

KROW

02-13-2024, 01:29 AM

Bullseye looks like a GI Joe.

I was just about to post he looks like Firefly or Beachhead.

Andrew NDB

02-13-2024, 01:41 AM

Feige was quite at odds with the MCU television division so it must sort of sting to have to lean into their way of doing things in order to save your dying brand. From actors to fans, it seems no one was eating the bs. You could even hear the trepidation from Cox and D’onofrio.

Though to be fair, it’s still Feige who is responsible for the overall success of the MCU obviously.

Well, it's super complicated. Like most things, the Marvel TV brand STARTED great. Agents of SHIELD seasons 1 through about... 4, to be charitable. AWESOME! 1-3, objectively awesome. And the people who say otherwise are largely people who didn't want to watch and feel angry that people found great enjoyment in that. But as things went on, whether it's Agents of SHIELD seasons 5+ or the later seasons of the Netflix stuff... there is an overriding feeling that these are people taking over that are embarassed about these things being comic book properties. They hate the costumes, they hate the superpowers. These are the WRONG people to put in charge.

I was just about to post he looks like Firefly or Beachhead.

I'm not a fan of what I've seen recently. But you know what? Until a week ago or so, we had no reason to even expect there'd be so much as a remote continuation of the last season of Daredevil. So I'm on board.

Andrew NDB

02-19-2024, 03:01 PM

Punisher seen on set:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/set-photos-bernthals-punisher-in-daredevil/

Autbot_Benz

04-03-2024, 10:13 AM

https://i.imgur.com/daokHpC.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/nHGBz7W.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/s2KDva8.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/bgpJf7C.jpeg

Andrew NDB

04-03-2024, 10:53 AM

Great. And I say something about Jessica Jones on set and in costume? Or was that fake?

Autbot_Benz

04-03-2024, 11:08 AM

Great. And I say something about Jessica Jones on set and in costume? Or was that fake?

nope Jessica Jones was an April fool's day joke from the Daredevil Updates twitter account

Andrew NDB

04-07-2024, 06:13 PM

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-set-photo-reveals-that-ayelet-zurer-will-return-as-vanessa-fisk-after-all-a210308

Wow, great! They ARE bringing back Ayelet Zurer as Fisk's wife. No recasting.

MikeandRaph87

04-07-2024, 08:23 PM

Andrew NDB

04-08-2024, 02:08 AM

More good news:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-wrap-only-for-halfway-mark/

We're getting the full 18 just... with a break. And then who knows.

Autbot_Benz

05-14-2024, 06:31 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4OuOD0B.jpeg

March 2025 on D+

BornAgain

05-21-2024, 09:07 PM

After X-Men 97, I am actually looking forward to this. Is MCU comeback season in session? Perhaps not, but at least I have a little hope again.

Andrew NDB

05-21-2024, 10:08 PM

If it's even 80% as good as the Netflix show, I'm down. And if they actually learned from some of the mistakes of that show, somehow? Even better.

Andrew NDB

06-17-2024, 02:50 PM

So I know a guy who was an extra on the show, a LEAKER, and here's some spoilers:

* At some point Foggy does get killed. For sure.

* Foggy's killer is then put on trial.

* Foggy's killer is "a blond white dude," and when I asked if it was Poindexter/Bullseye he said "Yeah! That's him!" but I'm not sure.

Autbot_Benz

08-09-2024, 11:09 PM

They showed a teaser trailer at D23. Sadly its not up on YouTube but people filmed it and uploaded it X

https://x.com/search?q=daredevil%20t...rc=typed_query

go here if you wanna watch it

Andrew NDB

08-09-2024, 11:21 PM

You got a link that works?

Autbot_Benz

08-09-2024, 11:24 PM

You got a link that works?

https://x.com/DDevilUpdates/status/1822122859793432603

Andrew NDB

08-09-2024, 11:47 PM

Awesome. Thanks!

Autbot_Benz

08-09-2024, 11:51 PM

one of my favorite shots from the trailer

https://i.imgur.com/9tIA64a.png

ZariusTwo

01-15-2025, 09:25 AM

7xALolZzhSM

Autbot_Benz

01-15-2025, 09:49 AM

7xALolZzhSM

looks great proper VIOLENT Daredevil

Andrew NDB

01-15-2025, 10:33 AM

Looks great. Literally everything I wanted to see, all in one nice package.

Autbot_Benz

01-15-2025, 10:51 AM

https://i.imgur.com/T4J9VGI.png

Coola Yagami

01-15-2025, 11:10 AM

Andrew NDB

01-15-2025, 11:14 AM

i do wonder this works, seeing how woke Marvel is nowadays. I mean like.... are the people behind Daredevil allowed to do whatever they want and lock their door to keep the activists out? Like how does Daredevil somehow escape not being gay or replaced by Elektra or whatever else?

This iteration of Daredevil: Born again is post-Kevin Feige reining holy hell down and reportedly "firing all the activists" (this was all over the trades) at Marvel and then even gutting THIS show and refilming 90% of it from scratch... so I'm not too worried. I'd be surprised if there's much woke stuff here beyond maybe the usual bit with, you know, maybe making sure there's like a female cop or somebody making some very loud comment out of nowhere about, "My WIFE will get a kick out of this! Did you hear that, audience? I said my WIFE!" or something (and then we never meet the wife). Because the impetus was to scrape all that stuff out of Marvel, with the message quoted from Kevin behind the scenes behind, "We tried it [the ultra-progressive woke stuff]. It didn't work. So we're not doing that anymore." I think the test will be is if we see the skull on Punisher's chest -- that's a big thing the lefties were up in arms about in recent years.

The only stuff woke stuff we're getting is the stuff that was too far along to sh*tcan, like Ironheart and Captain America 4, and both of those have been reshot to sh*t about a million times over now. None of that "Young Avengers" FAKE rumor stuff you see on social media is happening. They definitely had something like that planned post-The Marvels but it certainly isn't happening in its wake.

XERO

01-15-2025, 11:28 AM

That organ version of the theme song alone gives me f*ckin' chills.

Coming out on my birthday week, too? I am hyped.

Coola Yagami

01-15-2025, 06:04 PM

This iteration of Daredevil: Born again is post-Kevin Feige reining holy hell down and reportedly "firing all the activists" (this was all over the trades) at Marvel and then even gutting THIS show and refilming 90% of it from scratch... so I'm not too worried. I'd be surprised if there's much woke stuff here beyond maybe the usual bit with, you know, maybe making sure there's like a female cop or somebody making some very loud comment out of nowhere about, "My WIFE will get a kick out of this! Did you hear that, audience? I said my WIFE!" or something (and then we never meet the wife). Because the impetus was to scrape all that stuff out of Marvel, with the message quoted from Kevin behind the scenes behind, "We tried it [the ultra-progressive woke stuff]. It didn't work. So we're not doing that anymore." I think the test will be is if we see the skull on Punisher's chest -- that's a big thing the lefties were up in arms about in recent years.

The only stuff woke stuff we're getting is the stuff that was too far along to sh*tcan, like Ironheart and Captain America 4, and both of those have been reshot to sh*t about a million times over now. None of that "Young Avengers" FAKE rumor stuff you see on social media is happening. They definitely had something like that planned post-The Marvels but it certainly isn't happening in its wake.

Kinda too bad they had to push this crap along considering they're bound to lose money. I'd say they should cancel Ironheart. Cap 4 has already had several trailers so it would be downright embarrassing to cancel it this late in the game.

I guess their biggest gamble is they'll make it up in streaming sales or however that works.

Andrew NDB

01-27-2025, 10:44 AM

Sounds good to me:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-daredevil-is-less-noir-more-crime-thriller/

MikeandRaph87

02-08-2025, 11:46 AM

Vanessa Fisk takes over Kingpin's empire while he runs for mayor. It seems she actually is evil instead of a bystander or victim of her love for Wilson. A gray area as depicted in the comics, but no more.
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-star-ayelet-zurer-shares-spoilery-new-details-about-wilson-and-vanessa-fisks-dynamic-a216069#gs.k9f6rx

Andrew NDB

02-09-2025, 04:14 AM

If I were to speculate... Fisk really is good at the beginning. Then the wife makes him bad again.

Andrew NDB

02-14-2025, 05:33 PM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-s2-begins-filming/

"Season 2" has begun filming. But I think this is just the second half of the original 18 episode order.

And also... proper skull on Punisher's chest... a big YES! And it looks better than ever.

Andrew NDB

02-28-2025, 03:51 PM

x0D-T3yr-kE

Daredevil vs. Bullseye.

Eh... I'm really hoping Bullseye isn't just relegated to the first episode, "killing" Foggy and then that's it for him. I'm kind of starting to think that might be it. Worse, if Bullseye is the one that Daredevil KILLS. Ugh. How horrible would that be? Episode 1 and Daredevil's arch nemesis is DEAD.

MikeandRaph87

03-02-2025, 12:23 PM

It does look like the showrunner was forced to kill someone to add weight to the story and drive the whole plot. So instead of fridging Karen it will be Foggy alone. I am not familiar with Daredevil's enemies sans Bullseye aside form Stilt Man, Mr. Fear, and The Owl (due to encounters with Spider-Man). Its a shame the plot could not be driven without the death of a regular.

Andrew NDB

03-04-2025, 01:39 PM

Sounds like my "leak" from last June has turned out to be true:

https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1992013&postcount=106

But apparently Foggy has died and come back in the comics, or faked his death or something for his own protection... so there is some possibility there?

Honestly if either Foggy or Karen had to go, I'd rather it be Karen. With Foggy you have all the history of them going back to college and all. Karen's been kind of a mess, and this WOULD be about "the time" she was killed off in the comics.

So it's out right now. Anybody seen it?

Drose18

03-04-2025, 02:19 PM

You're a bit early, its only gonna be out in 5-6 hours

Autbot_Benz

03-04-2025, 10:00 PM

those episodes were great. More Marvel stuff like DD less like the sugary crap they usually give us.

Also love Fisk's nod to 3 certain vigilantes“We don’t need a gun-toting vigilante with a skull on his chest (Punisher) or, or a man who dresses in a spider outfit,(Spider-Man) or a guy who wears devil horns to save us (Daredevil).

Andrew NDB

03-06-2025, 04:52 PM

So... Henson (Foggy) and Woll (Karen) are both coming back for Season 2 of Born Again that's filming now.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/henson-woll-returning-for-daredevil-s2/

Also love Fisk's nod to 3 certain vigilantes

It'd have been nice if 2 of the 3 weren't ones that have already been seen on the show. Like a Captain America or GotG reference out of D'onofrio's mouth might have been something.

That reminds me in a roundabout way. Are we ever going to see the "finished" Statue of Liberty in the MCU? It was nearly done in Spider-Man: No Way Home until the Spider-Men started dicking with it.

Andrew NDB

03-11-2025, 01:34 PM

Well this is a little upsetting if true... Agatha All Along averaged 2 more million views than Born Again in week 1?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-draws-7-5m-views/

Drose18

03-11-2025, 04:11 PM

Well this is a little upsetting if true... Agatha All Along averaged 2 more million views than Born Again in week 1?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-draws-7-5m-views/

mind-boggling.

Agatha was pretty good and a fun watch but its a shame the general public would prefer that over Daredevil

Mayhem

03-11-2025, 07:18 PM

Agatha was a 14, Daredevil is 18 here in the UK so… demographics?

ZariusTwo

03-12-2025, 02:10 PM

Miles Morales' dad got a shout out in today's episode

Andrew NDB

03-12-2025, 06:27 PM

Does Matt Murdock popping up in a She-Hulk or Kingpin popping up in somethimg called Echo matter to the season 4_Born Again series?

So far his She-Hulk appearances don't make any difference to Born Again. Echo is -- unfortunately -- another story. The ending of Echo is the whole reason Fisk is the way he is at the start of Born Again, and D'onofrio has reiterated that in interviews. So if you don't see Echo it won't make any sense why Kingpin is suddenly so legit chill and good.

I do not watch everything only what appeals to me. One thing though, after the three way fight after Wilson and Vanessa's wedding, Wilson agrees to Daredevil's demand to go to prison and not have Vanessa implicated in the hit on Agent Nadeem. How does he get out the second time and able to run for the mayorship?

You don't quite have it right. The deal was, Wilson will keep Daredevil's secret safe ("You WILL keep my secret!") and leave his loved ones alone OR Daredevil will get Vanessa locked up for the Nadeem thing and presumably other things as well. That's it, that was the deal, nothing about a guarantee of him staying in prison. And unless it turns out Fisk had something to do with Bullseye and Foggy, Fisk kept up his end of the deal so there really isn't any reason for Daredevil to go after Vanessa. Yet. She'll probably do something bad and he'll have to, is where that's going.

Also, Kingpin getting out of prison brings up a question. I mean, I'm sure there's a story to how he was able to that we just haven't heard yet, but let's say you're serving a 10 year sentence... and suddenly the Blip happens and you vanish for 5 years and come back? Does that 5 years count as time served?

XERO

03-14-2025, 06:03 PM

Also, Kingpin getting out of prison brings up a question. I mean, I'm sure there's a story to how he was able to that we just haven't heard yet, but let's say you're serving a 10 year sentence... and suddenly the Blip happens and you vanish for 5 years and come back? Does that 5 years count as time served?

That is a very legit question to ask. I forget if Fisk was snapped or not, though. Either way, it would effect his prison time.

IMJ

03-14-2025, 09:02 PM

Apparently this show's viewership is pretty awful? It wouldn't surprise me - Daredevil is solid, but it's on Disney Plus and that's been hemorrhaging subscribers. Combine that with all goodwill towards Marvel is depleted and maybe that's that?

Also - question for people who still have Disney+. Can you power watch this show or is it a weekly episodic release? If you can't power watch it that might have something to do with the ratings. Power Watching full seasons is the new way.

Andrew NDB

03-15-2025, 04:42 AM

Also - question for people who still have Disney+. Can you power watch this show or is it a weekly episodic release?

The Netflix shows were all full dumps, every season. This one is weekly on Tuesdays.

Also, for all the talk about Feige scrapping so much of the original version of this show... the showrunner has recently admitted they basically didn't scrap ANYTHING. They kept the 6 episodes that were originally shot, they just added and shot 2 new episodes (episodes 1 and 2 that are out now) and a final one after the original 6 shot. And then added some new scenes into those original 6. Most notably, though they don't talk about it (but this HAD to have happened), reshooting everything they shot with D'onofrio and the chick they recast his wife with then with the original Netflix actress.

https://collider.com/daredevil-born-again-changes-darker-more-connection-to-original-series-reshoots/

Which is interesting, because there was so much talk about "everything they shot originally" was just a boring courtroom drama where Daredevil didn't suit up at all. And we're seeing that now in episode 3, which was the first episode originally shot before the overhaul and new shooting. But I think things will pick up when Punisher shows up and he gets skeeved about the crooked cops with the Punisher symbol.

Andrew NDB

03-19-2025, 01:14 PM

Drose18

03-19-2025, 05:12 PM

Interesting... so Jon Bernthal really did walk away from the original version of this. So all of his involvement in this (and he just showed up in episode 4) must strictly be the reshoots/added material.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/jon-bernthal-on-punisher-return-new-special/

Surprised they even wanted Punisher at all in that original version based on all the rumors about it being way toned down

The Frank scene from last nights episode was phenomenal

Andrew NDB

03-20-2025, 04:04 PM

Probably they wanted to trot Jon Bernthal out there as a version of what the comics tried to do to him a while back, and probably has a lot to do with the crooked cops taking up the skull stuff. Which is still there, but probably beforehand there was a heavy political or anti-police slant that he didn't like.

Also... she may pretend not to, but we KNOW why:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/daredevils-vanessa-actor-never-really-120629424.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=YW5kcm9pZC1hcHA6Ly9jb20uZ29vZ2xlLmFu ZHJvaWQuZ29vZ2xlcXVpY2tzZWFyY2hib3gv&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGQOOl5zfhblirdTIt36ZJrXBZMf c2AQbnQcGHjs_B6wxPKdeALJSrhd6Ky9eUmlzsrXhU6HJmHnoN ONum8qiAXa2AZewsq6JJ6QfdpBazOAfz5wymjX0kNPbHOzJmRH vC4QQnXZbkMkQSRGk_ENiN5YGfUlULxzJDb6kGHCdZqa

ToTheNines

03-25-2025, 04:02 AM

Was Echo good? Is it worth watching first?

Andrew NDB

03-25-2025, 10:29 AM

Was Echo good? Is it worth watching first?

I mean, it's kinda necessary. The ending of Echo is the whole reason behind Kingpin's headspace in Born Again, and the actor has talked about that in interviews.

But is Echo good? The first episode is decent, and even has Daredevil (after reshoots... Echo was similarly torn apart and reshot after the strikes, though unlike Born Again mostly it was just throwing a lot of footage -- whole episodes' worth, apparently -- into the trash). After that... yeesh... get ready for a steep decline in quality until you hit a pretty laughable ending. The whole thing was billed as the MCU's first foray into Netflix Daredevil-level darkness and violence and it's totally not that beyond that first episode.

BUT it does have a lot of D'onofrio in it. And he's never not fun to watch, so there's that. Even if it's him jobbing to little girls again for the second time in the row (the first time being in Hawkeye).

* edit:

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It looks like the Punisher will be teaming up with Daredevil and putting pipes through people's skulls right next to them and Daredevil will be like, "Meh." lol... I love it.

Autbot_Benz

03-25-2025, 09:57 PM

Good two episodes I really liked Episode 5 the Bank one.

Andrew NDB

03-27-2025, 03:42 PM

Good two episodes I really liked Episode 5 the Bank one.

I guess Kamala Khan's dad from Ms. Marvel was a big part of it, as a team-up? Yeesh... of all the possible guest stars...

Andrew NDB

03-27-2025, 07:07 PM

There's a good chance this might be Photoshopped. But I haven't seen these EXACT poses before in BTS shots.

https://i.ibb.co/ymzBCqhg/487445930-1122972236510164-7947664814003364335-n.jpg

IMJ

03-28-2025, 11:00 AM

I am seeing people throwing the show under the bus because five episodes have gone by of courtroom talk and Matt Murdock but no Daredevil? :lol:

Rightfully so if true....

Autbot_Benz

03-28-2025, 01:37 PM

I am seeing people throwing the show under the bus because five episodes have gone by of courtroom talk and Matt Murdock but no Daredevil? :lol:

Rightfully so if true....

Episode 6 changes that. The whole premise is he stopped being Daredevil once Foggy was murdered. But **** is changing and he has to deal with it

Andrew NDB

03-28-2025, 01:45 PM

I am seeing people throwing the show under the bus because five episodes have gone by of courtroom talk and Matt Murdock but no Daredevil? :lol:

Rightfully so if true....

Here's the basic timeline of events:

* Daredevil: Born Again is announced. Charlie Cox and Vincent D'onofrio are back. Rumors of Bernthal back as Punisher circulate. Everyone rejoices.

* Rumors that Bernthal quit because he didn't like what TPTB had in mind for the Punisher circulate.

* The strike happens. Production is shut down. After getting pummeled by failing Disney+ shows and MCU movies, Feige reportedly takes an axe to Daredevil: Born Again, which he said was "not working." He did the same thing to Echo, but with Born Again he replaced the showrunner and reportedly threw away all the episodes which were described as "a boring courtroom drama where Daredevil doesn't suit up until near the end of the show."

* The new showrunner takes over, filming resumes. Lots of talk about how the old Netflix show was too talky, that this will be way better. More action.

* Show comes out. Suddenly there's all these interviews about how they didn't really cut anything aside from refilming anything involving the actress they replaced Kingpin's original wife wife. Now we know that all they really did was keep the 6 episodes originally shot, shot 2 new episodes to slide in before those (with action and Daredevil in costume), then shot one additional episode for the ending that we have yet to see. Which, from the set photos, involves Daredevil and Punisher in costume teaming up on the streets.

Oh, and we can pretty much count on one rumor coming true now...

Months back it was reported that Elodie Yung DID reprise her role as Elektra for an episode "around the fifth or sixth" of the originally shot pre-strike episodes. Since we know they haven't thrown away ANYTHING of the old footage, odds are pretty great that she'll show up in episode 7 or 8, which would be the last of the 6 episodes originally shot.

Andrew NDB

04-08-2025, 11:45 PM

So it was Kingpin's wife that ordered Bullseye to "kill" Foggy.

Episode 8 was a decent showing if you've been waiting to see some more Bullseye, but I was hoping for a little more with only one episode left this "season" after this. Not a trace of Frank Castle here, so all that stuff with him vs. the crooked cops will be packed into the next one.

Autbot_Benz

04-15-2025, 09:21 PM

Finally got to see Frank kick ass tonight

Andrew NDB

04-15-2025, 09:54 PM

I have... reservations about what I just watched. The Frank stuff was nice but the way they shot it was all pretty slow and clunky... nowhere near the energy or choreography of the Punisher show or even Daredevil season 2 (which is odd because I think they have the same choreographer). And I was hoping for even one big surprise, something not spoiled by previews or anything.

Like in that vigilante prisoner holding area at the end there. I thought "oooh! I wonder who we're about to see locked up in here! Is it Jessica Jones? Luke Cage? One of the Hawkeyes? Elektra?!" Nope. Nobody.

Autbot_Benz

04-16-2025, 11:34 AM

Have to say D’nofiro’s Fisk portrayal mirrors Trump. Though Fisk is 10x smarter than him

Andrew NDB

04-16-2025, 11:55 AM

Have to say D’nofiro’s Fisk portrayal mirrors Trump.

I was worried that was what they were going to be trying here and make him into a Trump allegory (ala, like EVERYTHING in leftist-borne entertainment between like 2016 and 2021 or so) but I don't think that's really what they did or were going for at all. It's just, "What if the President... was a mobster?"

Andrew NDB

05-13-2025, 05:43 PM

It's official -- Jessica Jones will return in season 2.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-season-2-krysten-ritter-jessica-jones-1236215530/

Autbot_Benz

05-13-2025, 05:47 PM

It's official -- Jessica Jones will return in season 2.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-season-2-krysten-ritter-jessica-jones-1236215530/

Really hope they bring back Mike Colter as Luke Cage I really enjoyed his version

Andrew NDB

05-21-2025, 12:41 AM

Really hope they bring back Mike Colter as Luke Cage I really enjoyed his version

Honestly, I hope they bring them all back. And Elektra. Though I also don't want Born Again season 2 to just be more of The Defenders... yet after the end of season 1, they've kind of painted themselves into a corner to where if it's not that then it's a copout.

Autbot_Benz

05-23-2025, 11:56 AM

Mike Colter and Finn Jones are in NYC. That’s where Born Again S2 is filming

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/defenders-daredevil-mike-colter-finn-jones-new-york-city-speculation/

Andrew NDB

05-23-2025, 12:51 PM

Mike Colter and Finn Jones are in NYC. That’s where Born Again S2 is filming

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/defenders-daredevil-mike-colter-finn-jones-new-york-city-speculation/

Well that's great news. Though I remember similar fracas about Born Again season 1. The Elektra actress seen on set, Jessica Jones even, and then nada.

Andrew NDB

06-03-2025, 12:29 AM

Well... this is concerning.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-ratings-are-a-concern/

CyberCubed

06-03-2025, 06:22 AM

It'll likely be canceled after the second season (or rather Season 5). But as long as Daredevil can continue to show up in other series or in a movie finally, it doesn't matter too much. I'm curious if they'll finally kill off Kingpin eventually, since I doubt they'll use him in any Spider-man movie.

Andrew NDB

06-21-2025, 08:38 PM

So it IS clear that Punisher will be in season 2. I went to WA Summercon this weekend and they announced he had an unexpected hard out on Sunday for Daredevil season 2 filming, and Deborah Anne Woll even earlier (missing the whole con) for the same reason. So odds are good that there will be some Punisher and Karen stuff, solo, since everyone else was at the con.

Also, the Foggy actor was in attendance looking a little haggard and hiding his hair. We know he's in season 2 and they're freshly filming it so maybe Foggy is hiding out somewhere letting himself get disheveled.

MikeandRaph87

07-10-2025, 12:37 PM

Having seen it all now and seen certain elements more than once, its clear that Cherry, McDuffie, and Glenn are placeholders for other characters. Its surprising to learn they are actual comic characters because they seem so forced and analog of other better characters. Once the new showrunner is able to do his thing its solid. Hopefully Karen will continue to have good writing now the showrunner can return us to the 2015 show. Also that Foggy can come back as a trump card the newly ambitious Vanessa has to play. It was odd having Marci erased, but then again Karen was originally. It seems that even the random corrupt cop who killed White Tiger is a comic character, Cole North. However, he is mostly in name only. I would not want to irritatd tje comic faithful and slap existing names on different characters. Its likd the new Sjperman film should havd Bizarro, bit instead calls him Ultraman, another character who is in name only.

Slow start, dont care for the placeholder characters, but Dario Scardapane does not either. Great character work with the returning actors. I give it a 7/10 overall.

The only thing is this wont feel complete if Spider-Man is barred from participating. If behind-the-scenes negotations can get The Punisher in Spider-Man 4 than it can let him have minimal participation with his fellow street level heroes removing Kingpin from power. Moon Knight, White Tiger II, and Spider-Man joining the other 4 and bystanders should be a solid finish. Its just it was only getting good towards the end. At least now the intended stkry can be told in the promised 18 installments that were planned.

Andrew NDB

08-30-2025, 04:22 PM

Mike Colter is going to be part of a Daredevil panel. So basically... Luke Cage is back.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/luke-cage-star-set-for-daredevil-panel/

ToTheNines

08-31-2025, 08:59 PM

Woohoo! Heroes for Hire please!

Andrew NDB

08-31-2025, 09:09 PM

I'm only worried about Iron Fist. I do hope they give that guy a chance.

ToTheNines

08-31-2025, 09:38 PM

I know. I enjoyed season 1. Can’t believe they didn’t give him the suit at the end of Defenders.

Hopefully he does come back though. I’m sure you remember the… spirited discourse around Finn Jones’ casting. A lot of people who likely have never read a Marvel comic demanding that Iron Fist be an Asian actor. Which not only went against the point of the character, but seemed incredibly racist to me haha.

Andrew NDB

08-31-2025, 10:04 PM

I know. I enjoyed season 1. Can’t believe they didn’t give him the suit at the end of Defenders.

It's really unfathomable. As much as I liked the Netflix guys you could tell they REALLY hate superhero costumes. Hell, as soon as even Daredevil got a proper one they reverted him back to the black cloth cowl for the last season.

Hopefully he does come back though. I’m sure you remember the… spirited discourse around Finn Jones’ casting. A lot of people who likely have never read a Marvel comic demanding that Iron Fist be an Asian actor.

Yeah, very stupid. And if they do bring him back, I worry if it'll be a repeat of last time. As in, "Hey Finn, you're IN! You've got 2 weeks to train before we film!"

Certainly they have to do SOMETHING with Iron Fist. I doubt they'd recast Danny but... maybe they'd just bring in Jessica Henwick's character as the resident Iron Fist.

ToTheNines

09-01-2025, 09:05 PM

It's really unfathomable. As much as I liked the Netflix guys you could tell they REALLY hate superhero costumes. Hell, as soon as even Daredevil got a proper one they reverted him back to the black cloth cowl for the last season.

They set it up thematically in Defenders for him to wear a costume, then just didn’t do it.

And they even showed a past Iron Fist in that found footage scene wearing the cowl. Why wouldn’t he?

Yeah, very stupid. And if they do bring him back, I worry if it'll be a repeat of last time. As in, "Hey Finn, you're IN! You've got 2 weeks to train before we film!"

Certainly they have to do SOMETHING with Iron Fist. I doubt they'd recast Danny but... maybe they'd just bring in Jessica Henwick's character as the resident Iron Fist.

I’d rather see them both back, but that wouldn’t be the worst thing. Colleen was a cool character too.

Andrew NDB

09-01-2025, 09:36 PM

And Henwick REALLY liked that part. She turned down the Awkafina role in Shang Chi just in case that would be an obstacle to her reprising Colleen.

ToTheNines

09-05-2025, 10:30 PM

Finally starting Born Again, pretty good so far. I’m so grateful they’re keeping all of the Netflix stuff canon (even if only about half of it was any good). Haters dismissed the Netflix stuff and Agents of SHIELD for years, but now they can suck it lol.

I’m on episode 4. More like Cuckpin, am I right folks?

Andrew NDB

09-05-2025, 11:27 PM

Suffice to say he un-cuckpins.

I like Born Again but I don't like how so much time was wasted with all the stuff from the original shoots before Feige woke up. The doctor lady who is the love interest is decent but everybody else new sucks... except Kingpin's aide, the son of Michael Gandolfini. I thought for sure it was going to be revealed he's Kingpin's son but maybe next season. The serial killer spray painting in blood had potential but it was basically a macguffin.

I also liked how they are constantly juxtaposing Kingpin's return to form with Daredevil's return to form at the same time. What I do worry about in the future is... we might get TOO much Kingpin. We need to miss him from time to time. If we get Born Again season 5 and it's just more and more Kingpin, I don't think that's serving either Kingpin or Daredevil. But the last thing I want them to do is send him back to prison a third time.

ToTheNines

09-07-2025, 12:43 PM

ToTheNines

09-07-2025, 04:37 PM

Think I’m done for the day.

Episode 6: I enjoyed the writing on this one. Although I don’t understand how Muse got away.

Episode 7: I thought it was dumb that Matt’s shrink girlfriend was also the Fisk’s marriage counselor, but I must have missed that he sought her out to have some leverage on Matt. But I’m also supposed to believe this serial killer is her client too? Also, he’s a graffiti artist who happens to be a master Tae Kwan Do practicioner? lol

Muse in general felt like a distraction, but I guess it gave the Taskforce something to do. Speaking of which, I wonder how this show’s plot affected Spider-Man. Maybe not much since he’s mostly Queens based.

Episode 8: Finally ramping up and getting pretty good. Although I can’t fathom why Matt would EVER take that bullet. Also, why would Dex not go for a headshot? We know Fisk wears armor under his suits.

Andrew NDB

09-07-2025, 05:46 PM

People seemed to like it but I thought the bank one was lame, and the Ms. Marvel stuff in it certainly didn't do it any favors. I believe that whole episode was untouched from before the reediting and reshooting happened.

They better have Mayor Fisk play into the new "grounded" Spider-Man movie. It would be a real head-scratcher if nothing comes of it, if it's going to be Spider-Man and Punisher doing vigilante stuff in broad daylight in NYC fighting a rampaging Hulk. Which is what it sounds and looks like we're getting. I'd like to see something more substantial, but even just Fisk on a TV at some point in Spider-Man 4 denouncing all of them.

Autbot_Benz

09-07-2025, 07:05 PM

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 07:06 AM

Finished episode 5. Pretty boring. A bunch of Irish mobsters robbing a bank on St. Patrick’s Day? Kinda… corny.

Also hated the whole Ms. Marvel aspect. I’m normally a sucker for all connections and references, even when they’re forced. But the MCU has reached a point where it’s just too much content for me to keep up with it all even if I wanted to. And then roughly half of it stinks, so I have no problem skipping something if I can tell it’s not for me. Ms. Marvel is definitely one of those shows lol.

It’s also kind of annoying watching Matt bend his own rules and still do vigilante **** even though he’s sworn off being Daredevil. Just seems like he should be doing a better job of protecting his identity. He went all Jackie Chan on those cops (which was self defense), but then he chased down the leader from the bank heist for not much of a good reason. He covered his face, but the guy saw what he was wearing and got his full name and knew he was a lawyer.

Starting ep 6.

Well I think that Ms Marvel crossover episode is good and like Andrew NBD said it was episode that was untouched after reshoots happened but still really good episode it is good to see Matt Murdock teaming up with someone light hearted after in episode 4 he talked and argued with Frank, this is second time he teamed up with someone light hearted after She Hulk but this is first time he teamed up with someone light hearted in his show because She Hulk team ups were in her show, would you like to see Kamala to show up in Daredevil Born Again season 2 as part of his team maybe against Kingpin?

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 10:19 AM

would you like to see Kamala to show up in Daredevil Born Again season 2 as part of his team maybe against Kingpin?

If Feige wishes for Born Again season 2 to be the final season, sure.

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 10:43 AM

If Feige wishes for Born Again season 2 to be the final season, sure.

Why do you think it like this? Just curious and I respect your opinion but do you think that Ms Marvel characters should not be in this show? If yes than why?

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 10:50 AM

Why do you think it like this? Just curious and I respect your opinion but do you think that Ms Marvel characters should not be in this show? If yes than why?

No disrespect as you clearly would disagree, but Ms. Marvel sucked and was an abject failure. The Marvels also sucked and was an abject failure. Born Again already starting out with rocky ratings, throwing probably the least popular character in the MCU next to maybe Ironheart at season 2 is probably not the best idea on any front.

IMJ

09-08-2025, 10:55 AM

Why do you think it like this? Just curious and I respect your opinion but do you think that Ms Marvel characters should not be in this show? If yes than why?

Ms. Marvel is a mess of a character. They've tried everything with her including appropriating the "Quantum Bands" and practically ruining the possibility of Wendell Vaughn as Quasar on-screen.

How does that relate? Ms. Marvel has been put in street-level situations, team-level situations and resulted in a "cosmic character" that no one cares about. And all of that wasn't done because she's "so versatile", but rather because they can't make the character work in any paradigm. Next thing up will be trying to shoe-horn her into the "X-Men".

Ms. Marvel in Daredevil is just more of a mess, proving that they can't make that character work even if they keep forcing her into content. As I normally try to say too - nothing against the actress - she's entirely likeable and fun, but that character began as "diversity push", evolved into "disinteresting cliche" and now resides firmly in "insulting replacement character" alongside Phylla-Vell as "Quasar".

And even if someone didn't care about any of that? Putting her with DD is as disappointing as the She-Hulk fiasco where there are a lot of other characters we'd rather see him running around on-screen with.

No disrespect as you clearly would disagree, but Ms. Marvel sucked and was an abject failure. The Marvels also sucked and was an abject failure. Born Again already starting out with rocky ratings, throwing probably the least popular character in the MCU next to maybe Ironheart at season 2 is probably not the best idea on any front.

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 10:57 AM

No disrespect as you clearly would disagree, but Ms. Marvel sucked and was an abject failure. The Marvels also sucked and was an abject failure. Born Again already starting out with rocky ratings, throwing probably the least popular character in the MCU next to maybe Ironheart at season 2 is probably not the best idea on any front.
But her father was already in season 1 and they kind of let door open for future crossovers at end of that episode

IMJ

09-08-2025, 10:58 AM

But her father was already in season 1 and they kind of let door open for future crossovers at end of that episode

That "continuity nod" isn't an "instant pass" for any of the valid points above though.

You have to understand that, right? That's like being baited by content that no one wants but it's instantly what? Desirable? Because there was a nod to it somewhere else? Huh?

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 10:59 AM

So why do you guys think her father is in season 1?

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 11:01 AM

That "continuity nod" isn't an "instant pass" for any of the valid points above though.

You have to understand that, right? That's like being baited by content that no one wants but it's instantly what? Desirable? Because there was a nod to it somewhere else? Huh?

Well I am not saying that Ms Marvel is good show because I only watched few episodes and it was when they come out so I barely remember and I watched Marvels movie when it come out and it is not best movie probably, I just think her father appeared here so Matt could interact with more characters from wider MCU

IMJ

09-08-2025, 11:04 AM

So why do you guys think her father is in season 1?

Her father was in season 1 because the folks at Marvel have turned the "universe continuity" into a cliche. They did it because her family and Daredevil reside in-proximity to each other in New York and they felt that it would pad Ms. Marvel as an I.P.

Basically it's cross-marketing. And even if that brief appearance was setup for a "story", it's disinteresting at best. Sometimes several things are true at the same time:

Imagine a show runner going "we can put Ms. Marvel's dad in the show as a nod to the "fans" and they'll LOVE it (cliche as hell)! AND if it turns into a future crossover then that's cool too!".

It's all turned into bull$#!(, man.

I just think her father appeared here so Matt could interact with more characters from wider MCU

I mean... yeah exactly. But that doesn't mean that the interactions make sense or are actually desired by fans.

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 11:05 AM

Her father was in season 1 because the folks at Marvel have turned the "universe continuity" into a cliche. They did it because her family and Daredevil reside in-proximity to each other in New York and they felt that it would pad Ms. Marvel as an I.P.

Basically it's cross-marketing. And even if that brief appearance was setup for a "story", it's disinteresting at best. Sometimes several things are true at the same time:

Imagine a show runner going "we can put Ms. Marvel's dad in the show as a nod to the "fans" and they'll LOVE it (cliche as hell)! AND if it turns into a future crossover then that's cool too!".

It's all turned into bull$#!(, man.
Well I said my opinion about Marvels movie above this comment

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 11:08 AM

Ms. Marvel has been put in street-level situations, team-level situations and resulted in a "cosmic character" that no one cares about. And all of that wasn't done because she's "so versatile", but rather because they can't make the character work in any paradigm. Next thing up will be trying to shoe-horn her into the "X-Men".

Oh god, you might be right.

IMJ

09-08-2025, 11:14 AM

Well I said my opinion about Marvels movie above this comment

All I know about the Marvel's flick can be summed up in heuristics:

-diversity agenda movie. Unarguably reflected in the box office and lack of fan--interest
-Kamala Khan no longer has "fun, street level stretchy powers" but instead now has the "Quantum bands" taken from a cult classic, male, blonde haired fan-favorite character
-Brie Larson

That was it. That was all I needed to know to never pay for it.

But again, to your point - yes, crossover marketing.
But that doesn't mean that Kamala Khan "needed" a Daredevil appearance, or that it was even "logical".

Oh god, you might be right.

Oh they will absolutely do it. Ms. Marvel has failed financially and with fan-sentiment at literally EVERYthing they've shoe-horned her into. And they keep doing it.

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 11:19 AM

Yeah, just slide her into the background of X-Men where she wouldn't be so front and center that it'd be obnoxious. A tolerable level of Ms. Marvel. Then if/when it's a big success, they can try and parlay that into more Ms. Marvel stuff because "X-Men was a hit!"

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 11:35 AM

What do you guys think about Matt appearances in She Hulk episodes?

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 11:43 AM

What do you guys think about Matt appearances in She Hulk episodes?

I was looking forward to it. Remember, this was the first new Daredevil we'd gotten in years. I mean, honestly I was chuckling throughout it. At times. Everything about the episode with the Frog Man guy and the trial and the goofy stuff with the costumer was horrible, but when it was just Daredevil and She Hulk doing their thing it wasn't too bad.

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 11:45 AM

I was looking forward to it. Remember, this was the first new Daredevil we'd gotten in years. I mean, honestly I was chuckling throughout it. At times. Everything about the episode with the Frog Man guy and the trial and the goofy stuff with the costumer was horrible, but when it was just Daredevil and She Hulk doing their thing it wasn't too bad.
Yeah, it was good to see Matt having some fun in his life but after he returned to New York his life was again turned in hell because Foggy was killed

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 12:14 PM

So basically is Kamala father making appearance in episode 5 also meant to make viewers watch Ms Marvel series and Marvels movie maybe? Because they know that people who watch Daredevil Born Again and seeing character from another series might help Ms Marvel and Marvels to get more views?

IMJ

09-08-2025, 12:45 PM

so basically is kamala father making appearance in episode 5 also meant to make viewers watch ms marvel series and marvels movie maybe? Because they know that people who watch daredevil born again and seeing character from another series might help ms marvel and marvels to get more views?

yes.

8)

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 12:47 PM

yes.

8)
Okay, we will see what will happen in season 2 if they do something further with setup from this episode I would not mind it but if Kamala or her family members also does not appear I would not mind either

IMJ

09-08-2025, 12:57 PM

Okay, we will see what will happen in season 2 if they do something further with setup from this episode I would not mind it but if Kamala or her family members also does not appear I would not mind either

Question - is every easter egg and appearance in a Marvel show or movie actually "setup" for something else?

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 01:02 PM

Question - is every easter egg and appearance in a Marvel show or movie actually "setup" for something else?
Well I would not say that, what do you think?

ToTheNines

09-08-2025, 02:46 PM

So why do you guys think her father is in season 1?

I’m sure there’s still plenty of people like this, but 10 years ago that episode would have caused me to binge all of Ms. Marvel in a weekend just to get the whole story, even if it kinda sucked.

Now my free time is so constrained that I wouldn’t dare waste my free time on garbage. I’m totally fine with having holes in my MCU collection, post-Endgame.

nidza_maj2000

09-08-2025, 02:54 PM

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 02:59 PM

I’m sure there’s still plenty of people like this, but 10 years ago that episode would have caused me to binge all of Ms. Marvel in a weekend just to get the whole story, even if it kinda sucked.

Now my free time is so constrained that I wouldn’t dare waste my free time on garbage. I’m totally fine with having holes in my MCU collection, post-Endgame.

I feel ya. I lasted even a while past Endgame. Somewhere around Moon Knight (a show that seemingly only exists to give us "The First Egyptian Woman Superhero!" at the end and seems completely uninterested in its titular hero) and "Werewolf by Night" I was done spinoff stuff that clearly looked dodgy. I haven't seen any of Ms. Marvel, Agatha, Ironheart, and never finished Werewolf by Night. Somehow I finished Secret Invasions but boy, that was tough.

Drose18

09-08-2025, 03:17 PM

I haven't seen any of Ms. Marvel, Agatha, Ironheart, and never finished Werewolf by Night. Somehow I finished Secret Invasions but boy, that was tough.

I actually really enjoyed Agatha for the most part. It certainly didn't feel like a marvel project tho.

Autbot_Benz

09-08-2025, 04:03 PM

Ya the only MCU Show I’ve watched this year is Eyes of Wakanda that was good. THE MCU. Isn’t much see anything post Endgame just pick and choose.

I’ve skipped most of the Disney + stuff. Post Secret Invasion (I watched What If? And all the S1+S2 D+ shows)

Didn’t watch Ms Marvel Ironheart Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Werewolf by night etc

Andrew NDB

09-08-2025, 04:06 PM

(I watched What If?

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that. I saw all of season 1 but none of season 2 or 3. Not really because I didn't like season 1, but because I heard pretty horrible things about them.

Autbot_Benz

09-08-2025, 06:32 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that. I saw all of season 1 but none of season 2 or 3. Not really because I didn't like season 1, but because I heard pretty horrible things about them.

First two seasons were good. Season 3 sucked except for seeing Storm wielding thors hammer like in the comics

Andrew NDB

09-18-2025, 12:32 PM

Well here's some good news. Born Again has already been renewed for season 3.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-season-3-greenlit/

nidza_maj2000

09-18-2025, 01:09 PM

Well here's some good news. Born Again has already been renewed for season 3.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-born-again-season-3-greenlit/

It is really good, also hopefully there will be some characters from wider MCU in seasons 2 and 3 not only characters from Netflix shows although if they do not appear I would not mind either and by characters from wider MCU I do not mean Ms Marvel but maybe She Hulk (although not sure would she fit in this show tone), Sam Wilson and probably someone else, would be good if at least one character from wider MCU is with Matt team against Kingpin in season 2

nidza_maj2000

09-18-2025, 01:10 PM

Just imagine She Hulk against Kingpin

nidza_maj2000

09-19-2025, 08:33 AM

Well I guess that She Hulk is out of question for appearance because of this https://www.ign.com/articles/she-hulk-actress-tatiana-maslany-tells-her-social-media-followers-to-cancel-their-disney-hulu-and-espn-subscriptions-in-response-to-abcs-suspension-of-jimmy-kimmel-live?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawM6OrdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHufZdydwuj-51mSSK6lNVZkJdPJGJPKuWCZ5EMir5GKl5TJYvGETLLf5dnqi_ aem_hsPiPBaJEpujXIIOUiUrlA maybe only if they already filmed her scenes for season 2, she might also be in Avengers Doomsday movie

ToTheNines

09-19-2025, 09:27 AM

Lmao what an absolute dumbass.

nidza_maj2000

09-19-2025, 11:57 AM

Lmao what an absolute dumbass.

Yeah, it is not good idea that someone who worked or still works for some company to say this

Andrew NDB

09-19-2025, 10:26 PM

Just recast her. They'll do it to Norton but not this chick?

Coola Yagami

09-20-2025, 12:42 AM

But that would be 'misogyny'.

Andrew NDB

09-20-2025, 12:56 AM

Or it would give the appearance of giving a "win" to the "man-babies" complaining about She-Hulk. Can't have that. And I really wasn't even one of those people, though I didn't find a ton to love in that show. Just a lot of... puzzling choices.

maybe only if they already filmed her scenes for season 2,

You really think she's in it? She might be. That'd be kind of fun. It'd pay off of his appearance in She-Hulk, at least. And Echo should probably show up, too, for the same reason even though her show SUCKED.

Possible Born Again season 2 lineup, in order of most likely to least likely but at least possible:

* Jessica Jones (we know for a fact)
* Punisher (we know for a fact)
* Luke Cage (90% odds given the Born Again presentation appearance but it might be something rather small)
* Echo (fairly good odds given her recent show and her connection to Kingpin... though she doesn't live in NY)
* Elektra (the showrunner has said he really wanted to include her in season 1 and would look for a way... though reintroducing her in the middle of all of what's going on might require a lot more episode real estate than they have to give this time around)
* Iron Fist (but which one?)
* She-Hulk (pay off on that Daredevil connection from She-Hulk)

No, Spider-Man isn't remotely possible. Although... damn. If even half of these show up to join Daredevil in this season... Kingpin is going to need to recruit some real heavy-hitting bad guys to join the cause to make it interesting or at least fair. Those cracker-jack cops aren't going to cut it. Maybe Abomination could be carted out again, somehow? Who else?

Also, if either Elektra or Iron Fist if it's Danny Rand show up, there's a separate equation whether or not they'd be recast. I personally wouldn't want either one recast.

nidza_maj2000

09-20-2025, 03:28 AM

Or it would give the appearance of giving a "win" to the "man-babies" complaining about She-Hulk. Can't have that. And I really wasn't even one of those people, though I didn't find a ton to love in that show. Just a lot of... puzzling choices.

You really think she's in it? She might be. That'd be kind of fun. It'd pay off of his appearance in She-Hulk, at least. And Echo should probably show up, too, for the same reason even though her show SUCKED.

Possible Born Again season 2 lineup, in order of most likely to least likely but at least possible:

* Jessica Jones (we know for a fact)
* Punisher (we know for a fact)
* Luke Cage (90% odds given the Born Again presentation appearance but it might be something rather small)
* Echo (fairly good odds given her recent show and her connection to Kingpin... though she doesn't live in NY)
* Elektra (the showrunner has said he really wanted to include her in season 1 and would look for a way... though reintroducing her in the middle of all of what's going on might require a lot more episode real estate than they have to give this time around)
* Iron Fist (but which one?)
* She-Hulk (pay off on that Daredevil connection from She-Hulk)

No, Spider-Man isn't remotely possible. Although... damn. If even half of these show up to join Daredevil in this season... Kingpin is going to need to recruit some real heavy-hitting bad guys to join the cause to make it interesting or at least fair. Those cracker-jack cops aren't going to cut it. Maybe Abomination could be carted out again, somehow? Who else?

Also, if either Elektra or Iron Fist if it's Danny Rand show up, there's a separate equation whether or not they'd be recast. I personally wouldn't want either one recast.
And Ms Marvel is below She Hulk on this list? Also like I said episode with her father in season 1 is from before creative overhaul

Andrew NDB

09-20-2025, 05:24 AM

Oh. Her. I mean, that's fair. They did have that whole episode saved from before the reshoots with Ms. Marvel's dad. There's a chance.

nidza_maj2000

09-20-2025, 07:06 AM

Oh. Her. I mean, that's fair. They did have that whole episode saved from before the reshoots with Ms. Marvel's dad. There's a chance.
Yeah but on this list her appearance would be below or above She Hulk appearance?

Andrew NDB

09-20-2025, 02:27 PM

Yeah but on this list her appearance would be below or above She Hulk appearance?

Below. Nobody likes her.

nidza_maj2000

09-20-2025, 02:41 PM

Below. Nobody likes her.

Okay, so even She Hulk has higher chance of appearing than her and I am saying this because I am not sure how many people liked She Hulk Attorney at Law series and also like I said before I think that episode with Kamala father is kept to have Matt interacting with someone from wider MCU

nidza_maj2000

09-20-2025, 03:42 PM

Spider-Man would also make most sense to appear but because Sony this cannot happen

Andrew NDB

09-21-2025, 02:34 AM

Spider-Man would also make most sense to appear but because Sony this cannot happen

It's not even that. It's not like even a few years ago there was even a chance of seeing Tony Stark or Steve Rogers on a Marvel TV show.

nidza_maj2000

09-21-2025, 07:29 AM

It's not even that. It's not like even a few years ago there was even a chance of seeing Tony Stark or Steve Rogers on a Marvel TV show.

Yeah, but that was when they were on Netflix now they stream on Disney owned streaming service

Andrew NDB

10-02-2025, 09:28 PM

https://cosmicbook.news/daredevil-born-again-punisher-echo-scrapped?fbclid=IwdGRjcANME9xjbGNrA0wT12V4dG4DYWVt AjExAAEei102HaD5TuQitrm_lNfBIaHXdsiQfWI_XO20CQ_oUY oH4c3q2OWzRfriFf0_aem_SFueBbC6QI-bF_u_n1EuUw

The original idea in season 1 was to have Punisher run into Echo.

nidza_maj2000

10-03-2025, 12:27 AM

Andrew NDB

10-03-2025, 12:42 AM

Yeah, it would have been episode 5 instead of bank episode with Kamala father

Maybe the episode # would have been different but the bank episode was 100% shot and kept intact from before Feige stepped in and fired everyone. So the Echo/Punisher one would have been something else. Whatever was in this Echo and Punisher episode probably is a big part of why Bernthal refused to sign on in the initial version of Born Again. We can only really speculate at why, but I suspect it was mostly Punisher jobbing to Echo and making Echo look really great, but also probably the initial "take" on those crooked cops maybe implying that was a more widespread thing.

Andrew NDB

10-09-2025, 11:21 AM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/daredevil-s3-goes-in-a-new-direction/

See, this is what I'm talking about. Daredevil: Born Again season 3 and it'll STILL be about Daredevil vs. Kingpin. By this point it will mean that Kingpin has been the "big bad" of 4 Daredevil seasons, back-to-back. And 5 out of 6 seasons total.

That's too much damn Kingpin!

Xav

10-09-2025, 10:31 PM

Ok but what other Daredevil villain is big enough to be a season long threat?

Autbot_Benz

10-11-2025, 09:49 AM

S2 will connect to Spider-Man Brand New Day

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-season-2-will-connect-to-spider-man-brand-new-day-spoiler-confirmed-to-return-a224233

MikeandRaph87

10-11-2025, 10:04 AM

S2 will connect to Spider-Man Brand New Day

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/daredevil/daredevil-born-again-season-2-will-connect-to-spider-man-brand-new-day-spoiler-confirmed-to-return-a224233

The question now is, will Spider-Man be allowed to appear as one of Daredevil's street level recruits to takedown Mayor Fisk, an actual Spider-Man adversary?

ToTheNines

10-11-2025, 10:36 AM

I’m sure the main connective tissue is Punisher.

Autbot_Benz

10-12-2025, 03:55 PM

Got these guys today

https://i.imgur.com/PSIIcg7.jpeg

Autbot_Benz

10-12-2025, 06:25 PM

What toy line is this. Marvel Legends? Aside from NECA TMNT and heroclix I don't pay much attention to toys.

Ya Marvel Legends

Andrew NDB

01-27-2026, 12:32 PM

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Looks good. Definitely that's a flashback of Foggy in there since you can tell the anti-aging CGI going on there... but I still think we'll get some present Foggy as well.

ToTheNines

02-13-2026, 03:33 AM

“ Seidsama: Hello Alex, will the Devil’s Reign storyline conclusion be under a Spider-Man movie title or a crossover team-up event?

Alex Perez: This is an excellently timed question because I get to tell you about a recent rumor that has me excited for the next saga. I have heard the idea thrown around for the upcoming saga to feature a crossover team-up film that would serve as the epilogue of the Devil’s Reign storyline that technically started all the way back in Hawkeye with the appearance of Wilson Fisk.

The idea would be to feature street-level heroes from NYC affected by Fisk’s reign of terror against vigilantes, and we would see the likes of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher, and more team up to take down Wilson Fisk and his enforcers in a final bout against the regime. And that said, film is the current path for Spider-Man to be able to appear alongside these heroes. This is apparently one of the plans they have in motion to try and get these heroes to appear together.”

https://thecosmiccircus.com/alex-perez-feb26-qa2-marvel-studios/

Andrew NDB

03-06-2026, 06:09 PM

It'd be nice if we could just go into something like Spider-Man 4 totally unaware and with no hype, and BAM, there's a huge Kingpin presence and story.

This hit today:

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I dunno... are the bad guys this season JUST going to be Kingpin and the Anti-Vigilante police? Just like the last season? There's nobody else on that side? That's going to be a bit boring, I think.

Andrew NDB

03-22-2026, 04:16 AM

Did you guys notice the Spider-Man: Brand New Day trailer had a bit of a spoiler in it? Spider-Man gets the keys to New York from a mayor that... isn't Fisk.

ToTheNines

03-22-2026, 05:38 AM

Yes, good catch.

Also, the return of The Hand is a pretty big development.

Andrew NDB

03-23-2026, 01:43 PM

Eughh... some of the marketing for this is leaning a bit too far into "real world" stuff, with Fisk posters and "NO MASKS" and all. I hope not, but there is a high potential this is going to annoy an already annoyed half of their audience.

Andrew NDB

03-24-2026, 10:25 PM

Episode 1 of season 2 of "Born Again"... eh... starting out a bit meh here. Lillard's character grew on me a little bit but that's about all. And we just jump right into the black suit and Matt back in a relationship with Karen all happening between seasons, I guess.

I was expecting more of a hook right away.

Daytona

03-25-2026, 04:06 AM

Andrew NDB

03-25-2026, 12:42 PM

Episode 1 was not good. Some pretty weak writing and acting. The dramatic tension they are trying to create is coming across corny. The characters feel heavy handed with their dialogue and delivery. Happens occasionally in past seasons too but not a great way to start.

The opening scene was intended to feel huge but the execution wasn’t there and that quality haunted the rest of the episode for the most part.

That's probably a good way to put it. The big stuff with the sinking ship (ironic, in a way?)... just fell flat.

I think a big part of it is that we still just don't care at all about these NEW characters, like Detective Cherry. And we spend so much time on them. I thought this season might be in a hurry to reshuffle the deck into a more pleasing order ("here is how Foggy faked his death, bam," "here is a new threat for the good guys, bam," etc.) but it just seems like more of the same. And the Kingpin Mayor thing has already become boring. And slaughtering AVTF officers as effigies for ICE agents will do about as much for the show's viewership as slaughtering all those Border Patrol agents in Terminator: Woke Fart did.

Apparently we're getting TWO episodes next Tuesday, at the end of which things ratchet up super quickly heading into episode 4. So the reviewers say. So we'll see there. Burning 3 episodes before things get super interesting isn't a super great thing. Just about any episode of the old Netflix Daredevil show was solid in its own right and worth rewatching over and over again.

Also, there's a rumor that

Luke Cage WILL pop up in this at some point later on, but only basically a cameo that reveals that him and Jessica Jones already have a baby together and might even be married, too.

nidza_maj2000

04-02-2026, 03:09 AM

First 3 episodes of season 2 are really good in my opinion maybe

Andrew NDB

04-02-2026, 03:10 AM

First 3 episodes of season 2 are really good in my opinion maybe

Really disappointed in all 3. Really disappointed.

nidza_maj2000

04-02-2026, 07:40 AM

Really disappointed in all 3. Really disappointed.

Why do you think so maybe?

Daytona

04-02-2026, 08:02 PM

After episode 1 I’m sort of dragging myself to these next couple. Idk guys this could be the end for me. These next two episodes will decide if I’m still on board. I didn’t hate episode 1 it just did nothing for me.

I’m someone who’s watched the Netflix show at least twice and I didn’t even hate season 1 of born again. It could just be the perfect storm of having my fill + a dip in quality that’s turning me away. Anyway I’ll report back later.

Andrew NDB

04-02-2026, 09:54 PM

Why do you think so maybe?

Very, VERY little Daredevil. And mostly just the new characters. Nothing exciting or surprising is going on and nothing is really changing.

nidza_maj2000

04-03-2026, 04:07 AM

Based on this promo we might get more Daredevil in remaining episodes, here it is: https://youtu.be/jZc-_yKFr8c?si=7megEyGfyH_lBKwW

Daytona

04-03-2026, 03:40 PM

Very, VERY little Daredevil. And mostly just the new characters. Nothing exciting or surprising is going on and nothing is really changing.

I think I’m down for the new characters if the execution is better. I worry that it’s in part bc they don’t know what else to do with Matt and Karen anymore. I mean as much as I love the previous seasons, my biggest critique was that they sometimes felt pretty repetitive and dragged out. I’m not saying there isn’t more to be done with Matt but I suspect they’re digging hard for ways to use him at this point and thinking they need to pad the show. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Again I like a full cast and don’t necessarily need 75% of the show to be DD as long as they find new creative avenues of using him when they do. That sort of remains to be seen for now imo. I just never want to see Matt arguing with Karen or Foggy about being DD again, that’s for sure.
I also feel like Kingpin is played out at this point. On one hand it’d be foolish to throw away a beloved character played by a talented actor but with what they’re serving i am starting to feel like I’ve seen it all.

Maybe the Frank Miller material is just all wrung out at this point. On paper, I like the idea of them starting to take influence from the Mark Waid run - and I suspect Marvel wanted to do that with Born Again before fans started clamoring for the old stuff and complaining about his appearance in She-Hulk. The issue is even if that sounds like a good idea, executing the concept well, while also winning fans over to a new tone, seems like too tall an order for a series making a comeback. The initial appearances of Kingpin and DD in the “official MCU” just didn’t give optimism to that idea.