Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting

[Mayhem]

Trump controls the media now, it won’t be reported.

Same how it’s been found it was his videographer that triggered the escalator to stop at the UN headquarters…

[ToTheNines]

Wait I thought he was just a stupid old man who went doo doo in his diapey?

[Mayhem]

He is, but people sadly still listen. Miller is actually in charge…

[ToTheNines]

Edited by Barkworm: Sorry for deleting the pic but could you upload a smaller version?

[Mayhem]

Could you make that any smaller? :lol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

What was the pic?

[Mayhem]

I think it was like the largest pic of Stephen Miller you could find :lol:

[ToTheNines]

He’s back lol

https://images.newrepublic.com/8f84879b95077ec0b785cbbc5d72622c4910b9e7.jpeg?auto =format&fit=crop&crop=faces&ar=3%3A2&ixlib=react-9.10.0&q=65&w=768&dpr=3

[Vegita-San]

Trump controls the media now, it won’t be reported.

Same how it’s been found it was his videographer that triggered the escalator to stop at the UN headquarters…

I guess he stopped the teleprompter, as well? smh.

[Autbot_Benz]

He’s back lol

https://images.newrepublic.com/8f84879b95077ec0b785cbbc5d72622c4910b9e7.jpeg?auto =format&fit=crop&crop=faces&ar=3%3A2&ixlib=react-9.10.0&q=65&w=768&dpr=3

That guy is such a vile racist peice of ****. I hope karma comes to get him someday

[Mayhem]

I guess he stopped the teleprompter, as well? smh.
One of Trump’s staffers, they were in charge of it. Same as the escalator stopped as Trump’s videographer accidentally triggered the emergency halt.

[ProphetofGanja]

I’m not gonna go back and read 14 pages of this thread (I say that now, but I’ll end up doing it lol), but Israel definitely killed Charlie Kirk. He was kinda a piece of sh!t, but his death is going to have huge ramifications for every US citizen.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I’m not gonna go back and read 14 pages of this thread (I say that now, but I’ll end up doing it lol), but Israel definitely killed Charlie Kirk. He was kinda a piece of sh!t, but his death is going to have huge ramifications for every US citizen.

I'm not gonna rule it out completely, but even if Israel didn't kill him, they will surely benefit as his death is being used to promote the GOP which is in turn controlled by Israel.

That "funeral" was pretty much the RNC. Buy your Charlie Kirk merch and donate right here! vote Republician for the midterm! Fireworks and lights everywhere!

[Mayhem]

There were stories doing the round that during August, start of September, Kirk was invited to a number of prominent gatherings and parties held in ultra rich locations by prominent Republicans, and effectively berated for his wavering position on Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Yes, he had criticised their actions a couple of times in the previous months. I think this may be the source of the Israel conspiracy theories.

[Barkworm]

Eh, when it comes to conspiracy theories, I love to blame Russia first.

[ToTheNines]

I'm not gonna rule it out completely, but even if Israel didn't kill him, they will surely benefit as his death is being used to promote the GOP which is in turn controlled by Israel.

That "funeral" was pretty much the RNC. Buy your Charlie Kirk merch and donate right here! vote Republician for the midterm! Fireworks and lights everywhere!

Netanyahu is about to out of his own version of OJ’s “If I Did It” lol

There were stories doing the round that during August, start of September, Kirk was invited to a number of prominent gatherings and parties held in ultra rich locations by prominent Republicans, and effectively berated for his wavering position on Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Yes, he had criticised their actions a couple of times in the previous months. I think this may be the source of the Israel conspiracy theories.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/amp/

Eh, when it comes to conspiracy theories, I love to blame Russia first.

The perfect liberal haha.

Somebody call Robert Mueller!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Eh, when it comes to conspiracy theories, I love to blame Russia first.

Interestingly enough, Kirk was also pretty pro-Russia in addition to being Pro-Israel. Its a combination that seems to be all too recurring in American Conservatism nowadays, though I strongly despise it.

[ToTheNines]

I’m not gonna go back and read 14 pages of this thread (I say that now, but I’ll end up doing it lol), but Israel definitely killed Charlie Kirk. He was kinda a piece of sh!t, but his death is going to have huge ramifications for every US citizen.

Funny Gianmarco Soresi joke I saw a clip of recently:

“The shooter just killed him and not the wife and kids, so you know Israel didn’t do it”

[sdp]

I'm just glad Kirk's wife was able to handle things well and continue the podcast and events. She didn't even take a break to mourn, days later and she put her sorrow behind to carry on, she's that hard working and comitted. Not everyone deserves a wife like her, well Kirk does.

[ProphetofGanja]

Funny Gianmarco Soresi joke I saw a clip of recently:

“The shooter just killed him and not the wife and kids, so you know Israel didn’t do it”

Damn lmao :lol:

It’s sad that we all know how much truth there is in that

[Andrew NDB]

It’s sad that we all know how much truth there is in that

No, not all of us.

[ToTheNines]

No, not all of us.

So you do think Israel killed him?

[Andrew NDB]

So you do think Israel killed him?

Absolutely not.

[ProphetofGanja]

No, not all of us.

In this case, I was actually referring to Israel’s propensity for killing women, children, and other innocent civilians, for which there is considerable evidence.

[Andrew NDB]

In this case, I was actually referring to Israel’s propensity for killing women, children, and other innocent civilians, for which there is considerable evidence.

War is ugly business. Probably Hamas shouldn't have started one.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

War is ugly business. Probably Hamas shouldn't have started one.

Normally, I react to your posts pretty negatively, but I'll say something positive for a change and say that atleast you didn't outright deny that tonnes of innocent people are being Genocided.

[Andrew NDB]

Normally, I react to your posts pretty negatively, but I'll say something positive for a change and say that atleast you didn't outright deny that tonnes of innocent people are being Genocided.

That would not meet the definition of a genocide, no. But even if it did (and it doesn't), it would probably be the least effectual, weakest-willed genocide in all of history.

[ProphetofGanja]

Wow I never thought you were that ignorant before, Andrew. Disappointing smh.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

That would not meet the definition of a genocide, no. But even if it did (and it doesn't), it would probably be the least effectual, weakest-willed genocide in all of history.

Welp, I take back my olive branch from earlier then. Not gonna argue on this.

[Andrew NDB]

Yep. What a horrible genocide. And of course it's not like the other side could have just surrendered at any point in the past couple of years and it'd be over or anything. Nope.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Yep. What a horrible genocide.

Sarcasm? Just earlier, you said it's not a Genocide but here you're saying it is.

Which one is it? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with your 2nd post, since its better than the 1st one.

[ProphetofGanja]

Yep. What a horrible genocide. And of course it's not like the other side could have just surrendered at any point in the past couple of years and it'd be over or anything. Nope.

So you would advocate for people who were forcibly removed from their ancestral homeland to simply roll over and submit to their oppressors? I never took you for a bootlicker, Andrew.

I guess I shouldn’t have said “ignorant” earlier; what I really meant was “easily swayed by propaganda”

[Andrew NDB]

So you would advocate for people who were forcibly removed from their ancestral homeland to simply roll over and submit to their oppressors?

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/charlie-kirk-wrote-of-his-deep-love-for-israel-in-letter-to-netanyahu-about-how-to-counter-rising-opposition-to-the-jewish-state-in-the-us/

Letter from Charlie Kirk to Benjamin Netanyahu, absolutely worth reading. Two quotes that stuck out to me:

I regret to report that anti-Israel and anti-Semitic trends are at record levels on social media. These negative sentiments then flow downstream into college campuses and even seep into the conservative MAGA community.

In my opinion, Israel is losing the information war and needs a “communications intervention"

[ProphetofGanja]

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

You are going to lose your country to Zionist masters if you keep licking their boots.

Anyways, here (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO5AgbdDUhA/?igsh=MXY3OWdwdXgwcWV5YQ==) is footage of Kirk questioning how Israel, one of the most surveilled countries on the planet, failed to intercept the “attack” on October 7th.

[ProphetofGanja]

Back to "stolen land"? History shows you either fight for your country or you lose it. Lurking about after losing one, waiting to do rape/murder fests in protest in the night is hardly any sort of pity party worth championing. And they had 20 years to build up Gaza into something amazing but they didn't do sh**.

And again Andrew, you’re falling for laughably weak propaganda. All those claims of sexual assaults by roving gangs of Palestinians and dozens of beheaded babies were proven to be complete fabrications.

You know who does have a documented history of raping their subjugated enemies? Israel.

[Andrew NDB]

And again Andrew, you’re falling for laughably weak propaganda. All those claims of sexual assaults by roving gangs of Palestinians and dozens of beheaded babies were proven to be complete fabrications.

"Proven" how? And be specific. I'm aware of the attempts to initially call the photos an AI thing or manipulation.

I like you and I don't hold it against you, but I'd wager we'll just get into a circular argument where we could badger each other about the other one falling for propaganda. Just don't assume I say anything lightly.

[Mayhem]

Claim doing the rounds that the head of TPUSA booked the State Farm stadium for an event in September back in May, but there was nothing listed on its website that suggested anything was happening.

The conspiracies, especially re Israel, are not going to go away.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The conspiracies, especially re Israel, are not going to go away.

Israel should start deploying Mossad everywhere to prevent any terrorist attack in the United States because they will be suspected or blamed otherwise.

Once upon a time, it was antisemitic to suggest Israel controlled America. Now, Israel's involvement in the JFK Assasination, Jeffrey Epstein, 9/11 and the USS Liberty incident have all become mainstream talking points.

The Red-Pill is real, and its changing the world for generations to come.

[ToTheNines]

"Proven" how? And be specific. I'm aware of the attempts to initially call the photos an AI thing or manipulation.

I like you and I don't hold it against you, but I'd wager we'll just get into a circular argument where we could badger each other about the other one falling for propaganda. Just don't assume I say anything lightly.

Heavily cited and worth a read: https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/israel-biden-beheaded-babies-false/

Also found this clip incredibly interesting. Y’all called me crazy for saying exactly what Charlie Kirk is asking here:

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The Red-Pill is real, and its changing the world for generations to come.

Yeah 20 years from now it won’t be viable to be an AIPAC politician in America.

[ToTheNines]

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[FredWolfLeonardo]

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Make that a regular reccuring meme here everytime the Based RedPills are dropped :lol::lol::lol:

[Andrew NDB]

So PBD saw something about someone in Egypt claiming they were warning something was happening before they retracted it, and Charlie Kirk visited Israel and saw a lot of soldiers so 10/7 totally had to be done with the IDF's knowing. Oh, and there was some trouble brewing in the government so BB must have had some hand in this. It was on a Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah. There was another one last week. I couldn't even get the Jewish guy who just put in my garage door motor the day before to come and fix it all week.

But is that about it? Not very compelling.

[ToTheNines]

“One reassuring thought: one of our hidden advantages is that these people wouldn't believe in a conspiracy if it hit them over the head” - Peter Thiel, 2014

[Mayhem]

Given Hamas got into Israel too easily on October 7th, yes there's been a conspiracy since that it was a deliberate allowing to stoke the Israeli response.

[ToTheNines]

It’s wasn’t “someone in Egypt” is was the Egyptian government/intelligence: https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/

Your anecdotal story of a Jewish handyman living in AMERICA is apples to oranges in comparison to the IDF being the main line of defense in their country located in the Middle East, surrounded by armed enemies.

Also:

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[Andrew NDB]

Oh please. Yeah, the IDF briefing that morning: "All right, boys... we're going in there and MOWING DOWN our own! That's what we're doing today! Jesse, I know your aunt Shari is there but I need you to put on your game faces! Make it look good, too! Also, all of you in this room better promise to take this secret to your graves!" :lol:

I'm not saying such a thing is impossible, it's just that if that's what happened a whole lot of other things would have had to be in place that wouldn't make any sense or hold up to much in the way of real scrutiny.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Oh please. Yeah, the IDF briefing that morning: "All right, boys... we're going in there and MOWING DOWN our own! That's what we're doing today! Jesse, I know your aunt Shari is there but I need you to put on your game faces! Make it look good, too! Also, all of you in this room better promise to take this secret to your graves!" :lol:

I'm not saying such a thing is impossible, it's just that if that's what happened a whole lot of other things would have had to be in place that wouldn't make any sense or hold up to much in the way of real scrutiny.

Do you know about the Hannibal Directive? Just curious.

[Andrew NDB]

Do you know about the Hannibal Directive? Just curious.

I do. Absolutely no evidence it was applied here, anywhere (despite what some people on Piers Morgan smiling when asked about 10/7 who have a lot to say), but it might've been. Like if a wounded IDF soldier is being carted away speedily in a Hamas pickup truck and there's no real way for your men to get to him in time then yeah... they might consider offing him vs. letting him get sent to the terror tunnels as a shiny new bargaining chip. I'd also imagine most/all of these soldiers would even ask or want that, if it came to that. 10/7 was like 9/11 on crack in terms of how personal and in-your-face it was, for Israel. It'd be Aliens, "If it comes to that... I'll do us both." Granted, I'm going hypothetical here but not far from the mark of what I've heard from the accounts, I think. If I was to put myself in the IDF's shoes, battling Hamas and I get shot and they start carting me away... absolutely, blow me away right there and then. No? You really want to take your chances about what comes next? Honestly?

[Mayhem]

JFK like assassination conspiracy continue to swirl, I’ve seen so many videos like this it’s starting to push the narrative. People are rightly questioning if Tyler had anything to do with it.

The fact Erika doesn’t even show any signs of mourning is one thing. Like she’s Sharon Stone to Arnie in Total Recall. No shots of their kids faces, no shots of Charlie playing with them, the photos just all seemed staged in hindsight.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPfBCutAZKu/?igsh=bmY1MTN5bjNudTg4

(the only false flag is the Dairy Queen, been led to believe it’s a shop ten miles away from the one people say is now shut down)

[ToTheNines]

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I challenge anyone to watch this with an open mind still believe that young kid shot him with a 30.06.

[member_removed]

JFK like assassination conspiracy continue to swirl, I’ve seen so many videos like this it’s starting to push the narrative. People are rightly questioning if Tyler had anything to do with it.

The fact Erika doesn’t even show any signs of mourning is one thing. Like she’s Sharon Stone to Arnie in Total Recall. No shots of their kids faces, no shots of Charlie playing with them, the photos just all seemed staged in hindsight.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPfBCutAZKu/?igsh=bmY1MTN5bjNudTg4

(the only false flag is the Dairy Queen, been led to believe it’s a shop ten miles away from the one people say is now shut down)


I can legit believe that Charlie as a very public and polarising figure and would want to keep his kids out of the public spotlight. Considering how vocal he was. I can actually respect that. I don't post photos of my kids on social media, too many sickos out there.

Now Charlie would have turned 35 in 2028, old enough to run for POTUS.
Trump is legally enaligable to run a 3rd term (despite looking old and tired AF. He currently makes 2024 Biden look like a Mensa candiadate).

Vance is as popular as a dog turd on a hot day and Charlie has more chrisma in his little finger than Vance.

[CyberCubed]

This thread now has over 300 replies, do you guys really care about this random guy so much to have over 300+ comments here? I never expected this thread to make it past page 2.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

This thread now has over 300 replies, do you guys really care about this random guy so much to have over 300+ comments here? I never expected this thread to make it past page 2.

Personally I didn't care about Charlie, but he was a pretty notable figure among young people, conservatives and the terminally online (I don't say that as an insult) so its not surprising the subject has garnered this much attention.

Anyways, this news is pretty big. Apparently, Turning Point has confirmed that leaked texts from Candace Owens are real about Charlie Kirk's U-Turn on Israel:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/candace-owens-was-not-lying-charlie-kirks-messages-on-israel-pressure-two-days-before-he-was-killed-are-genuine-says-turning-point/articleshow/124371606.cms

Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won't cancer Tucker," Charlie wrote in his message.

"Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause," Kirk wrote.

Two days before he died too.

[ToTheNines]

This thread now has over 300 replies, do you guys really care about this random guy so much to have over 300+ comments here? I never expected this thread to make it past page 2.

The fact that the “shooter” is clearly a patsy and the incredibly sketchy investigation by the FBI is what has me obsessed with it.

I was similarly hooked by the whole Thomas Matthew Crooks/Trump shooting last year. Many, many things were not adding up.

[Mayhem]

This thread now has over 300 replies, do you guys really care about this random guy so much to have over 300+ comments here? I never expected this thread to make it past page 2.
I didn't particularly care, I was aware of him and had seen videos of many of his podcasts and debates (especially getting owned while at Cambridge). But then Trump and whole MAGA movement blew his death up (fnarr fnarr) into some massive tragedy and eulogised the guy into a 90k stadium event 11 days later. And now, crickets. Just the next in a line of deflection and harnessing hate towards the left because "look, that side tries to kill people!", just like the Trump shooter. Speaking of which...

I was similarly hooked by the whole Thomas Matthew Crooks/Trump shooting last year. Many, many things were not adding up.
And we equally know pretty much **** all about him even all this time later.

[Andrew NDB]

I will give some agreement about Crooks. It's beyond weird that we still don't know anything about him that we didn't know like the day after we knew who he was.... and weirder still that Trump wouldn't be at the forefront of doing a full expose on him in short order.

[ToTheNines]

They cremated his body about as fast as they could: https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-body-gone-donald-trump-shooting-clay-higgins-investigation-1940195

[Andrew NDB]

And his two phones? We still never found out what was on them? I'm willing to humor the "maybe he was a sleeper agent for _____" but then why wouldn't Trump be spending every day since getting elected to get to the bottom of it?

[Daytona]

It’s extremely personal to Trump which could explain keeping cards close to the vest for now. Ongoing investigation. Probably goes deep.

[ToTheNines]

And his two phones? We still never found out what was on them? I'm willing to humor the "maybe he was a sleeper agent for _____" but then why wouldn't Trump be spending every day since getting elected to get to the bottom of it?

I know, the whole thing is so weird. I’m really getting into cuckoo territory here, but I think about this all the time:

- Look at how the crowd reacts when Charlie Kirk is shot. Only ONE round goes off and it’s what you’d expect. Screaming, running, ducking, covering little kids, etc.

- Look at the crowd in Butler when ELEVEN rounds are exchanged. No stampede or anything. Everyone hangs out until… the Secret Service allows the once and future President to shove them off and dab on the shooter with “fight, fight, fight!” Just very bizarre.

[Mayhem]

And his two phones? We still never found out what was on them? I'm willing to humor the "maybe he was a sleeper agent for _____" but then why wouldn't Trump be spending every day since getting elected to get to the bottom of it?
Because Trump was never actually shot, and any further investigation into this (and many of the public have carried this forward anyhow) would demonstrate no bullet actually hit his ear.

In the same way, why did they pave over the entire Charlie Kirk crime scene literally a day after the shooting?

Sherlock Holmes “when you’ve eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

To me it is increasingly looking like both were staged events, and you know me, I don’t do conspiracies, but there’s way too much doubt or counter logical procedural action to the norm for both incidents going on to suggest otherwise.

[Coola Yagami]

Trump was never shot. He'd have no ear. One's ear doesn't just... grow back.

[ProphetofGanja]

Yup, so much of what goes on in the new cycle is just manufactured events orchestrated by intelligence agencies in order to advance their agendas.

[ToTheNines]

What’s going on with this trial?

[Andrew NDB]

From what I've been gathering it's "more open and shut than we realized" which is surprising because it has always seemed like exactly that. But apparently it is even MORE so than that, which is making me scratch my head.

[Mayhem]

I’ve heard absolute jack, about as much as we’ve found about the guy who staged the fake shot at the rally. Has there been reporting in the US on it, because I’ve not seen it?

[ranger_scout]

Here's the latest from the prosecutors.

Bullet engraving shows Charlie Kirk targeted for politics, prosecutors say (https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/6040138-utah-university-shooting-evidence-dispute/)

[ranger_scout]

The judge ruled that Tyler Robinson can stand trial for capital murder.

https://abcnews.com/US/judge-rules-alleged-charlie-kirk-killer-stand-trial/story?id=136116758