I say Keep Ninja Turtles like it was

[BigThew]

I too am a fan of the old mirage comics, i just started reading them though, but I myself grew up with the cartoon. I can't tell you how much joy it brings to watch the turtles all goofy and happy like, it makes me remember how the days where when i was a kids....i really wish they would do this

for the cartoon, use the same animators and writiers as the old cartoons and then maybe release some Animated videos or show some late night cartoons on Comedy Central or HBO, show some darker turtle stories, with some animation like in the spawn cartoons

just some input froma newbie

[Nickokapo]

I too share that feeling for i grew up with the toon too, and it is my favorite tmnt universe...however, there were enough episodes in the old cartoon so now i would like to see something new and different.

[HorseTechie]

Yeah, I agree. The old cartoon was the old cartoon. It will forever remain untouched and preserved in time for us to enjoy over and over...

But there comes a time when the new age is amongst us and it would be refreshing to see something new. I like how this new cartoon looks, acts, and feels. And it sounds like it'll have the same zany humor that was present in the first cartoon, minus the balloony/chuild-like appearence the Turtles had then. Asides, I'm also a Mirage comic fan, so I think seeing more of the comic book feel in a animated show is great.

See it like this, there was the Batman show of the 50-60's... but then there is also the modern Batman 90's. But exist together, with their own set of fans. I think it's great that the TMNT are trying to go for the same idea.

[Aztec General]

Like everyone else here I too have some sentimental attachment to the old cartoon, but let be terribly honest for a moment.....the old cartoon was AWFUL! Yes you've heard me correctly AWFUL! The Turtles were supposed to be action heroes; instead they were turned into smily faced little green people that were obsessed with pizza and bad jokes. Even the villians weren't menacing.

To me the only real TMNT is the Mirage incarnation. If the new cartoon can do anything to deliver the feel of the Mirage comics then I'll be ectstatic. It's time the TMNT are treated as the action heroes they were in those comics. If the new series delivers action packed adventures, interesting stories, returning and new characters, and some classic TMNT humor (which the mini-comic, character artwork, and the statements of Peter Laird seem to suggest it will) then in my opinion it should be light years better than the original.

[Karpo_007]

I agree with you to some point ratking, but i think it wasn't awful... Yeah it's true that it got boring after the first season but there are good eps here and there... I grew up with the show too and thats why i cant hate it... If Mirage would have been my first contact with tmnt i think i wouldn't like the cartoon... Peter Laird himself has stated that he got bored with the series...

I have really high hopes for the new series, and Im begining to think that it will be what i want.

[Mike]

I too grew up with the cartoon, bit I agree with Rat King. I wouldnt be back into theTMNT today if not for the comics. I too hope they change it...a lot.

[Nturtle]

the 5 1987 eps arre like the ideal cartoon, I would keep all the goofiness and pizza which is part of the TMNT universe and make the fight scenes not slapstick and perhapes keep the Shredder like he was in the beginning :evilgrin:

[Karpo_007]

Well the gofinessis not part of the original tmnt universe.... But there are humour in mirage comics. I think the same kind of humor wil be seen in the new cartoon.

[Nturtle]

hmm.. you're probebley right, like in th mini foxbox comic book but I think we may see Mikey at least make his usual bad jokes :D

[Karpo_007]

Mikey sure looks like to be funniest turtles...

[Nturtle]

yeah like usual, did you read the bios?

[Karpo_007]

Yeah i did. And it seems i will get the raphael i want!

[Nturtle]

:lol: oh well I'll miss th snide remarks and sarcasim but I guess it wouldn't fit in the new mirage based enviroment

[Karpo_007]

Yeah mirage's humour is more mature...

[Nturtle]

sure, but then again who needs matuarity!? :P

[Karpo_007]

Well if i had to choose between old cartoon and mirage guess what i would choose...

[Nturtle]

hmmm... thats a tough one... :P I've only read a couple Mirage comic books truthfully so maybe I can't make a proper judgement

[Karpo_007]

You really should! It's the best that tmnt can be by far!

[HorseTechie]

Ahhh... ye old Mirage, I pick! Yeah... it wasn;t the cartoon that won me over. It was the first movie and the comics I found after that that made me a fan. :P :wink:

But the humor, I think, will be something like in the new comic (for those who are reading that). Raph is making snide remarks there too. Those don't have the same charm as in the original cartoon, but that's probably cause I'm reading it.

Simply put, I'm not gonna cast judgement on the new show until it is actually seen! :tpizza:

[Nturtle]

yeah but its fun to predict!!!
:D

[BigThew]

I just hope they say cowabunga at least once, that word brings back a ton of memories

are they going to use the same voices as the old one

I just hope they don't screw up the cartoon and put a bunch of Anume crap, i am getting so sick of that stuff, this is AMERICA not JAPAN

[Nickokapo]

Well they said cowabunga in the theme song, so i'll assume it'll be on the cartoon too :D
And i've readed somewhere in the forums that they're going to use new voices...i liked the old voices better, but if they are going to change the cartoon and make it more darker, i guess they also have to use voices that fit the characters :)

[Aztec General]

Well I must say that after reading the Bio section of the Foxbox website, I think that the new cartoon is heading in the right direction. They certainly seem to have gotten Leo and Raph right anyway.

Also the outline of the 1st episode is an interesting combination of the first 2 issues of the Mirage TMNT. I'm very impressed, and can't wait for the new series.

[Karpo_007]

Me neither! And im clad that they wont kill shredder in the first ep!

[Nickokapo]

Yeah...and the mousers are in the first episode, that means baxter will appear early in the series, perhaps in the first episode, too :thyper:

[Mike]

Well, they better stioo kill Shredder. I agree about anime, they are putting the worst of it out over here, and giving it a bad rep. No, it will not be anime, look at it, and look who's animating! The dudes who do MIB the Series, Jackie Chan, and Im not sure, but I think Big Guy and Rusty.

[Karpo_007]

Well they must kill shredder if they ant to use the return to new york plot... And i can't think why they wouldn't...

[Nickokapo]

They should kill shredder...In every episode!!
http://twiki.org/p/pub/Main/RobokopSuxors/Miscellanious003.jpg
Oh my god, they killed shredder! :goofygri: :evilgrin:

[Nturtle]

:lol: that would get annoying REAL fast :P

[Karpo_007]

:lol: :lol: You Bastards!

[Nickokapo]

Raph would be such a great cartman :wink: :P

[Nturtle]

I don't know much about south part cartman is the fat kid right? then there is the one who always vomits and kenny who always dies

[Nickokapo]

Yes the fat kid is cartman, the one that vomits is stan and the one that dies...IS SHREDDER!MEHEHEHE! :P just kidding, you already know who that is :wink:

[Nturtle]

:lol: I see oh well, I remember when that show was HUGE it isn't as big anymore is it

[Nickokapo]

No...it lost some popularity already...and i personally got bored of it :P

[Nturtle]

I only saw it once it was funny but preety damn gross :dead:

[Nickokapo]

Yeah...when i started watching it i thought it was funny but now there's some stuff that ain't funny, it's sick...i think towelie's funny tho! :P

[Nturtle]

I'm thinking of doing a TMNT flash for the technodrome, just for fun, but I'm not sure what to do, either something with pizza, shredder beating up the turtles or maybe something else or what?? :-?

[Nickokapo]

Shredder beating the turtles...that's a good idea! :evilgrin: it's the technodrome site afterall :goofygri:

[Nturtle]

and then maybe splinter beating up the shredder!!!! :evilgrin:

[Nickokapo]

Ah, yes, splinter...he's one of my faves, how could i forget about him :embarass:

[HorseTechie]

Well I must say that after reading the Bio section of the Foxbox website, I think that the new cartoon is heading in the right direction. They certainly seem to have gotten Leo and Raph right anyway.
Yeah, and I loved how they described Don as a natural born engineer. Engineers rock! :goofygri:

It really does seem they are going by the Mirage profiles too, cause Mike is portrayed as Raph's buddy here. (as opposed to the first cartoon, where they don't seem to pick favorites, or in the movies, how Mike and Don like each other).

[Karpo_007]

Well in the first cartoon they are not brothers... Atleast they call each other friends. And splinter is not their father. Splinter always calls them"my students". Maybe this series will change that...

[Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan]

First impressions really do work. Those who grew up with the original cartoon are apprehensive about this darker cartoon. Those who grew up with the comics can't wait. It all depends upon what your tastes are. If you like goofy light-heartedness, the cartoon is what you'd like. However, if you like Turtles with attitude, Turtles with anger, Turtles with an edge, you would like the comic.

I am not trying to say that one is better than the other. All I'm saying is that different people like different versions of the Turtles.

"Ugh! Ugly child! My condolences, madam!" - Shredder, from "Four Turtles and a Baby"

[Nturtle]

yeah I guess, the fan base may just get a little more split now between the 2 cartoons

[wadew]

im sure there's going to be humor in this toon, i just don't think it'll be as over the top as the original .

[BigThew]

call me goofy and light-hearted

[Nturtle]

yeah seeing as the new mini comic had some, I like your avatar wadew!! :)

[Kali]

Heh heh, I like wadew's avatar too. Too bad the sound isn't there. *snicker*

[wadew]

that's exclusive test footage for "Spider-man 2: Lord of the Dance"

[azure turtle]

LOL!!! Now that's a funny avatar!! :lol:

[Karpo_007]

I have said this in every thread with tis kind of discussion but here i go again: As a kid i liked original cartoon and now that im older i like mirage.
Sure difrent people like diffrent things but for me it was age related...

[Nturtle]

thanks for sharing karpo :P and I keep saying I grew up onthe cartoon and wish they didn't go slapstick
wadew, where did you get that avatar anyway?

[Aztec General]

I just think that a more serious TMNT cartoon is great for everyone. Judging from the first episode summary it sounds like there will be a more continuing storyline and we'll get to know the characters more. This is especially good because a lot of TMNT fans now are older because when they first starting following them they were about 9-13 years old and now they are in their late teens/early twenties (like me). Also the turtles are NINJAS so they should fight and be disciplined. Which they were absolutely not in the old cartoon.

Also I too like Wadew's avatar :).

[heretic888]

things'a change. get used to it.

[Skeletoncrew]

I am eagerly awaiting the new cartoon. I love the fact that they're using fresh artwork, and a new angle! Yes, I grew up on the old cartoon, but I love new TMNT offerings! It would be a waste to make the new show totally like the old one.

[Machias Banshee]

I cant wait to see it either! :D I look at the old cartoons, and suddenly realize how goofy it was, but now i happily await some more mature and intelligent characters...

I do wonder how the relations aspect will be...I mean, Dan Berger did say in a recent interview that they were going to be a family, so i'm hoping that will be true... :D

[Karpo_007]

Yeah in Mirage and movies they are a family, And Splinter Their "Father".

[Machias Banshee]

Yay! :D :thyper: