I feel bad about asking this but....

[Mandi-chan]

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all? I got my hands on a couple of tapes of the old toon thanks to my british buddy, I was real excited and watched it as soon as I got home but I didn't like it. I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now. I was really disappointed and tried to like it but I just couldn't. Even if I hadn't seen the movies or the new show I'm positive I still would have disliked the old toon, it seemed too goofy and I don't like shows like that anymore. Am I the only one who feels this way? Please don't flame me! :(

[Brodie]

Some episodes are downright silly, but still, some eps are really good.

[jeff the cheff]

This might sound ridiculous(and it is) but there is some rule here where you can't say you didn't like the old cartoon.

I love it, though. It brings me back to my childhood, and it is just a great cartoon anyway.

I think your definatly not the only one to feel this way, though. Most people prefer the new cartoon over the old.

[That Matt Guy]

This might sound ridiculous(and it is) but there is some rule here where you can't say you didn't like the old cartoon.

That's not the rule, pal. You can't bash the old toon; such as "it sucks and the new one is way better" But saying you don't like the old toon isn't bashing.

[TheRATKING]

you should watch the first season eps there really good

[Ryona]

I think your a little too young to appreciate the old series.; that's all.
The fans who really grew up with the first wave of turtlemania are between 19 to 29, so I wouldn't expect you to have much fond memeries of back then. It's no big deal really. At least the young, new crowd gets to aknowledge and appreciate the turtles through the new second wave that we're in now, so it's all good. :anime:

[Buslady]

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all? I got my hands on a couple of tapes of the old toon thanks to my british buddy, I was real excited and watched it as soon as I got home but I didn't like it. I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now. I was really disappointed and tried to like it but I just couldn't. Even if I hadn't seen the movies or the new show I'm positive I still would have disliked the old toon, it seemed too goofy and I don't like shows like that anymore. Am I the only one who feels this way? Please don't flame me! :(

Hey guess what? I don't care for the old toon, and it's what made me a tiny bit of a fan but the movie made me a BIG fan...especially of a certain guy in red...anyways the old toon...it's so freakin CORNY!!!!!!!! BUt..for what it is, the kiddie style it's done in...it's ok. My kid loves it. That's fine. I love the new toon so much more...

[TheRATKING]

i love the old toon i grew up with it, i was there from the start of it. the new shows great but the old one will just always seem right too me

[Kali]

I loved it as a kid but I'm 17 now.
Lots of people say the same thing about the old cartoon. People change as they get older. I know I was hooked on the old show as a kid, but now, it just doesn't hold me the same way it once did.

[Deathknight]

It's funny, everyone on this forum likes the new toon better and says the old toon was crap and everyone I know in real life thinks the opposite. Personally, I love the old toon more than any other TMNT universe. Yes more than the movies, new toon, mirage, etc. Personally I like it best because I like humorous shows better than action. I think the old toon is hilarious and it gives me a lot of joy watching it. The new toon has good action in it and I enjoy the comedy in it but there are aspects I don't like. One of them being that the turtles never have a defined skill. There was the Shredder Strikes where the turtles absolutely annihilate the foot and basically just laugh it off that they're so pathetic. Then comes the Shredder Strikes Back part 2 where you would think the turtles would be equal in skill and all of them get uttely owned by the foot soldiers. Same thing in Return to New York, the turtles struggle against the foot when it's the same guys they've been fighting all along with maybe slightly better skills with the time they were gone from New York. Then there was the foot tech ninjas. In their first appearance the turtles struggle a bit but conquer them still pretty easily. Their 2nd appearance in Shredder Strikes Back, Leo struggles because he can't see them but then relies on his ears and takes them out with ease. Then comes Return to New York part 1 where the turtles and Splinter get destroyed by them. They stood no chance what so ever against them and luckily managed to short circuit them with Donatello's ninja stars. Is it just me or is that a little hard to believe? The turtles had no real skill in the old series but the series did what is meant to do. It was very funny and stood up to that in nearly every episode. I mean with the new series I guess it's exciting when the turtles struggle but I just find it boring when it clear the turtle's skills are heavily watered down to do this. Plus I'm not much of a fan of the utrom Shredder thing. I'm sorry there is 0% chance he could've survived the utrom's building imploding. For those of you think he somehow managed to escape, he wouldn't have needed to have the worms heal him if he had managed to find a way out at the last second. So in closing it just varies how you like a show. If you prefer humor then you like the old series, if you like action you like the new series/mirage/1st movie. There are people I know who actually hate the new toon and I know people who hate the old toon as well. It's all a matter of opinion. Why we have to have another discussion about this is unknown to me. I think it was best put by Karpo. (This isn't exact) "Asking what you would like best from the old show in the new show is like saying what you would like from the 60s Batman show in the newer movies." They're based on different time periods and different tastes, if you don't like one of them that's your opinion and it should be respected. However, dissing the old series/new series and other people who think it to be better is just wrong.

[host_punktmy]

honestly I think that the new toon is better in terms of better animation, and character design. The new show also has a darker edge to it compared to the old show, which I like a lot. When it comes down to it though I grew up with the old TMNT toon, and I am loyal to it.

[ZariusTwo]

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all?:(

If you don't like it, don't moan and whine about how "bad" it is to fans who know better

Both the original series and the new Ninja Turtles cartoon are equally good.

[KROW]

I agree, ZariusTwo. Both toons have endearing qualities.

[Jasta3xB]

I like the old better although besides the first season I havent seen any forever. Im waiting for the realease of all the old episodes so I can finally see them all again. Also, at first I reall y didnt care for the new cartoon and I started watching it again and now it seems pretty decent. Too bad I missed a crap load of them. They should release the old ones on the cartoon network or something.

[KROW]

Whao, dude, get out of the cave. Where have you been?

Do you have the first season of the 80s toon on DVD? Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?

Also, go buy the new toon on DVD and catch up. :tsmile: :shredder: :kgrin:

[Aaron]

I love it, though. It brings me back to my childhood, and it is just a great cartoon anyway.

I think your definatly not the only one to feel this way, though. Most people prefer the new cartoon over the old.
Same here. I definetly prefer the old toon over the new toon though.

[TheRATKING]

Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?i didnt know they had plans as of yet to release the rest on dvd

[Orochi Chimera]

I like both shows for different reasons. They are both good shows.

[Ashangelo]

I'll always like the old cartoon, I mean I grew up with it. I'll admit it's corny but it still manages to make me laugh. But I really enjoy the new toon also.

[KROW]

Oh yeah, RATKING. You know how businesses are. They see that the TMNT are coming back so they're gonna cash in as much as they can. And you know that if they don't release them that they'll be petitioned to anyway. Either way it's inevitable.

[TheRATKING]

yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

[Ashangelo]

yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

I hope they do, I don't know why they wouldn't

[TheRATKING]

yes but alot of people seem to think that theres a possibility that they wont come out with the other seasons

I hope they do, I don't know why they wouldn'tthats how i feel

[Aaron]

I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet.

[TheRATKING]

I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet. :o :o :o wha

[Aaron]

I still need to get the new toon dvd's. I don't have any of them yet. :o :o :o wha
Yeah, I am behind on the modern tmnt stuff. I am don't even have the Sewer Playset yet. I plan on buying it Thursday.

[KROW]

Well, back to the old toon, they will release more. I guarantee it.

[Deathknight]

I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

[Aaron]

I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.
I read it, I have five words to say about the part of your post talking about the bad continuity in the new show, it is just a cartoon. It doesn't have to be taken extremely seriously. It is just made to sit back and enjoy. Although like I have said before, I like the old toon better than the new toon and that is just my opinion.

[ZariusTwo]

I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

Not true, hell I've seen LONGER posts that have good reasons behind them.

You've got good points, the original series IS great, I like the new cartoon as well though and it does'nt have "bad continunity"

[cqb101]

The old toon is alright......I like Mirage, the movies and the new toon a helluva lot more, tho. Sometimes I have a ahrd time finishing an ep of the old toon...I just get so bored.

[ZariusTwo]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

[cqb101]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

[ZariusTwo]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

I was'nt offending you, just Original series bashers in general, sorry If I used your posts about "Getting Bored" with some episodes as an example, it was NOT directed to you

So I don't beleive I'm "walking out" of this thread yet buster

[cqb101]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

Shut the hell up. Seriously. How is saying that sometimes(meaning certain epsiodes) I get bored bashing the old toon? I'm sorry if stating my opinion is bashing it. Why don't you take your two little warning and walk the hell out of this thread.

I was'nt offending you, just Original series bashers in general, sorry If I used your posts about "Getting Bored" with some episodes as an example, it was NOT directed to you

So I don't beleive I'm "walking out" of this thread yet buster

Ok, cool. Just a little misunderstanding.

[DrSpengler]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

So because YOU like every aspect of the TMNT universe (aside from Next Mutation and Image) so does everyone else? Your reasoning being, "If you don't like something don't say anything about it! Opinions different from my own make me mad!"?

No wonder you get so bent out of shape if anyone even considers criticising anything TMNT-related. They have to ask for your permission first.

"Is it okay if I say I don't like Next Mutation?"

"Yeah, sure. I hated that show."

"Is it okay if I say I don't like an episode of the old cartoon?"

"NO! God dammit, you prick! If you don't like it don't say anything!"

[cqb101]

God this NOT the kind of discussion I like in the fandom, they don't like the original cartoon? fine, then stop dissing it, just say you don't like it, don't give reasons for it, because for every "I get bored by it" there will be another "That's Bulls*it"

I'm glad I'm one of the fans that like nearly every part of the franchise barring Image and Next Mutation, but I hate original series bashers

So because YOU like every aspect of the TMNT universe (aside from Next Mutation and Image) so does everyone else? Your reasoning being, "If you don't like something don't say anything about it! Opinions different from my own make me mad!"?

No wonder you get so bent out of shape if anyone even considers criticising anything TMNT-related. They have to ask for your permission first.

"Is it okay if I say I don't like Next Mutation?"

"Yeah, sure. I hated that show."

"Is it okay if I say I don't like an episode of the old cartoon?"

"NO! God dammit, you prick! If you don't like it don't say anything!"

Speng, calm down and leave it alone....Don't make things worse.

[DrSpengler]

Speng, calm down and leave it alone....Don't make things worse.

Yeah, might as well. Can't get through to some people anyway.

[Aaron]

I don't really have a problem with people who hate the old show. That is their opinion and I respect it.

[Kid Icarus]

Did you know that Arista plans on releasing the rest?i didnt know they had plans as of yet to release the rest on dvd I doubt they will, as the first DVD wasn't originaly going to be full episodes, but 'The Saga Begins' instead.

[Bry]

I feel largely the same way... I haven't seen most of the old TMNT episodes in ages, but I went on a bit of a downloading spree a while back, and I wasn't really impressed. I mean, it was a great show for kids - juvenile humour, goofy storylines, and easily digestible one-dimensional characters. However, it didn't hold up particularly well with me.

Though, the original 'mini-series' (the first five episodes) were actually quite well-done, and showed a lot of promise... They benefited from superior animation, fairly clever writing, and a little edge (with actual violence!). Unfortunately, battle scenes with Leonardo slicing up robotic foot soldiers left and right would give way to the Turtles catching the Shredder in a net made of pizza dough - Ugh. :dead:

Things generally took a sharp turn for the worse in the second season, when the animation lost its' energy, the writing got significantly duller, and the Turtles generally got more cuddly and toddler-friendly.

I don't mean to "bash" the original show, though. I loved it almost more than life itself when I was a kid, so I know why it was so successful and still means a lot to its' fans. Just voicing my personal opinion on the show, looking back on it with a more (but not much more) 'grown-up' perspective. :wink:

[Aaron]

I think one of the many reasone I like the show is thatr it really isn't that serious. I mean, I love serious cartoons and funny more childish ones. But when you think about it , how serious can 4 mutated teenage turtles who know marshal arts be?

[host_punktmy]

Am I the only one here who doesn't like the old toon at all?:(

If you don't like it, don't moan and whine about how "bad" it is to fans who know better

Both the original series and the new Ninja Turtles cartoon are equally good.

Uh....... Isn't that kind of an opion, and not a fact? i wonder how you got those two warnings.. You know there's no need to be so rude.

Anyway I like the new show a lot cuz of teh action too

[ZariusTwo]

The bashers are not objective, they never will be, thier blinded by shows with slightly better animation and better writing, they don't see any of the quality humour and writing the original offered anymore, they just call it "silly" as if it's beneath them.

You know how offensive that is to people who STILL like the original cartoon? Are you saying you're better than us? If so, you're wrong and sadly misguided

I aologise for bashing any people, but seriously, why waste your time blasting something you hate instead of embracing something you like? It helps everybody

I only went after The Next Mutation as much as I did because Jarrah was trying to always pass it off as the second coming of Jesus Christ, I got tired of it, a lot of others got tired of it, the line HAD to be drawn.

Since he's stopped that crap, I've stopped dissing Next Mutation as much as I used to.

[DrSpengler]

The bashers are not objective, they never will be, thier blinded by shows with slightly better animation and better writing, they don't see any of the quality humour and writing the original offered anymore, they just call it "silly" as if it's beneath them.

You know how offensive that is to people who STILL like the original cartoon? Are you saying you're better than us? If so, you're wrong and sadly misguided

I aologise for bashing any people, but seriously, why waste your time blasting something you hate instead of embracing something you like? It helps everybody

I only went after The Next Mutation as much as I did because Jarrah was trying to always pass it off as the second coming of Jesus Christ, I got tired of it, a lot of others got tired of it, the line HAD to be drawn.

Since he's stopped that crap, I've stopped dissing Next Mutation as much as I used to.

Now, people don't think they're better than you just because they like one animated version of a property than another. It's an opinion. And that also doesn't mean that they're "blinded".

Like for example:

I personally think that all-around Beast Wars was superior to the Generation 1 cartoon. It had better animation and better writing. I criticise the old cartoon but that doesn't mean I hate it. Certain episodes like Five Faces of Darkness, Dark Awakening and the Movie were incredible.

If you want people to praise the good aspects of a television show you also have to expect criticism of the bad.

When someone says "I liked the old show when I was a kid but the jokes don't really hold up over time and the animation can get rather ugly" that doesn't mean he's insulting you personally and that doesn't mean he all-out hates the show.

You have to accept the good comments along with the bad.

[KROW]

If you don't like the old toon, fine. I myself watch it now and find that I shake my head and smile at the corny bits. I think, "How did I ever find this part funny?" or something like that.

But the old toon is a childhood memory of mine and I will always hold a place for it in my heart.

And no, I'm not crying. :D

[Deathknight]

I guess my post was too long for anyone to consider reading lol.

Not true, hell I've seen LONGER posts that have good reasons behind them.

You've got good points, the original series IS great, I like the new cartoon as well though and it does'nt have "bad continunity"
Never said it has bad continunity I said that the turtle's ninja skill is at random levels all the time which is really dumb. Big difference, the new show has good continunity, that was one thing about the old show I didn't like. Something got destroyed and it'd be back in the next ep with no explanation.