Any hope for Revenge of the Sith?
 

Okay, we've all been down that road before... having high hopes for the prequels, only to have them smashed by too much Jar Jar or poor acting. Everyone has been disappointed in some way by George's prequel ideas, and now with ROTS right around the corner what do you think he'll have in store for us? Do you think Lucas will pull through this time? Or will it be a plot hole filled CGI mess?

If it hadn't been for that ridiculous love story "Attack of the Clones" would have been a great movie so I do have hope for the third.

I think George Lucas has been consistent with the films (even if he didn't direct 5 and 6). They've always been childish it's just a lot of the audience has grown up since the originals. If you look at the films they always have over-the-top or cheesy dialogue, ham acting and made in the style of a B-movie. There's music over every scene to try and aid the bad acting just like some bad American soap

Having said that I still find them amusing. I'm just looking forward to the Obi-Wan vs. Anakin fight really

The only really redeeming parts of Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were the lightsaber duels. And those were AWESOME.

So Revenge of the Sith? The story's going to be weak, the acting's going to be painful and the CGI is going to look fake. But I'll go for the lightsaber duel and James Earl Jones.

Lucas has lost his mind and is focused on making Star Wars movies family films. Disptite the name.....he's a moron and doesnt know what the hell he is doing with his own movie series. Steven S begged Lucas to let him make some Star Wars movies I think Lucas was stupid not to accept. He just liked the control....the control to put things that suck into his movies *cough*Gungans*cough*

I'm probably one of few people who don't have many gripes with the new films. The Phantom Menace was mostly crap, but there was some cool stuff. Attack of the Clones, I thought, was awesome. I have very high hopes for Revenge of the Sith, very high.

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I think Lucas is slowly killing star wars... I'm hoping this last one here will save the series... but I doubt it... i'm going to see it, just cause it says Star Wars on it and lightsabers battles always rock... just ease off the CGI Mr.Lucas please!! please!! :cry: ...
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I, for one, can't wait for this movie. I mean, the Jedi have to get wiped out. It's not like it's some plague or freak accident. They have to hardcore FIGHT. With lightsabers. That's all I need to be satisfied. Hell, I would've paid $5 just to see the Darth Maul saber fight from Phantom Menace.

^^What he said.

I'm not big on the new one's, like many of you said the saber duel in Phatom Menace was the best part and I didn't even see attack of the clones. Pretty much just give me the original trilogy any day.

I'm real grateful I managed to get a high quality bootleg of the original original trilogy. They're DVD copies of the official laserdiscs, so the picture and sound is flawless.

I'm glad I got them, now that I've seen what he did to the original trilogy DVDs. Relieved I didn't waste my money on those.

I'll go see it, but I have a feeling I'll be disappointed like I was the previous two. I saw a thing on Entertainment Tonight, and they said that there is a special effect in every shot for this movie, and that pisses me off cause I know it's not a cool, more practical special effect, but some crappy, annoying CGI. Lucas needs to take some lessons from Peter Jackson. Pete knew when and where to use CGI in the LOTR films. He used both practical special FX and CGI when needed. He didn't use CGI for every little friggin' thing like that stupid bastard who thinks CGI is the tomarrow of friggin filmmaking, that g**damn motherf**king sonuvabitchin' flabbin' corkshucking mundanenoodle asslicking turd!! GAAAHHH!!! :dead:

Whoa, man. Sounds like someone knocked over your major award and used up all the glue on purpose.

Yeah, Jesus. That was a little much. He may have screwed up, but...damn! Ease off those filthy words. :ohwell:

I still don't see what the big deal is about the couple added things in the DVDs. They hardly make any difference at all. Some people are just way too picky about this sh*t.

Ah... i cannot wait for this movie to come out! I admit, episode one mostly sucked, because A. Jar jar... and B. young Anne... But the saber fight was frickin awesome, i just wish it was like that in the second episode.

I liked Episode 2 a lot. Obi Wan is my fave and seeing him not being a padawan is awesome, and seeing Annikin slowly going towards to dark side just rules, and plus not as much jar jar. And the whole arena filled with all the jedi's fighting, that was awesome.

This one cant suck... after seeing the teaser trailer on the site... ahh!!! i wanna see it! And like what Ai said, the jedi council are gonna have a hardcore fight, we're gonna see Mace whoop some butt. We're gonna see Vader come alive, baby luke and leah... and see obi wan and annikin duel, which i cannot wait for.

And wookies!!

Chewbacca... what a wookie!*

*song heard from movie clerks

I honestly can't wait to see this either. They can have 2 hours of Jar Jar for all I care, as long as we get to see the Jedi blown to hell and the whole galaxy goes to the Empire. My dream is that the closing scene will be sort of like that of AOTC, but we see original trilogy stormtroopers boarding original trilogy star destroyers, while Vader and Palpatine watch.

Has anyone else seen the leaked scenes that shows what happens to Dooku?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Man, that's hilarious!

BHAHAHAHA, dude, I love that joke! :lol: :lol: :lol:

For Revenge of the Sith, all I want is Darth Vader, dying Jedi, and lots of blood. That'll make me happy. There's no way they can't do the movie without tons of people dying. Give me that, I'm happy.

I doubt that there will be a lot of blood in it. I can't think of any scenes with blood in the Star Wars movies right now.

Ummm......the first 10 minutes of Empire Strikes Back.

Well, at least some rolling heads and dismembered body parts. Then I'll be happy.

I thought The Phantom Menace was terrible (As a whole, it had its moments), but I thought Attack of the Clones was pretty nice (Again, as a whole).

I'm not such a big Star Wars fan, so I don't care too much if the new movies 'ruin' anything. I'm not too fond of all the CGI though. I thought Yoda looked amazing in Episode I (A puppet) , but I hated how he looked in Episode II (A fully CG character). I get the impression Lucas is just taking the easiest way, instead of the best.

Anyway.

I'll go see Revenge of the Sith, but I'm not sure what to expect. At least the origin of Darth Vader will be cool.

Whoever made the comment about Peter Jackson and CGI being better in LOTR than Star Wars was a bit over the top. You can see how terrible some of the stuff looks in the LOTR sometimes, just plain terrible. Legolas on the Cave troll in the first one or even the hobbits with everyone bowing near the end of the third were awful things to look at. I think Star Wars looked a lot better overall considering most of it actually was CGI (backgrounds, characters and all)

As for blood, I don't think you'd see much because I imagine lightsabers and blasters cauterise wounds :D

Man, the irony of this post. If you only read the spoilers, wow.

Dammit Matt! You just had to ruin it for me! You KNEW I was going to highlight those spoilers! :cry:

Barkworm: There is blood in the Cantina scene of the ANH.


As for this movie. Being a Star Wars junkie, I'll defend the franchise with my dying breath. However, I agree that Lucas has really made a mess with the CGI in the films.

The Jedi dying is a big plus.

Vader's birth is a big plus.

Hayden Christensen not talking is a big plus.

Plus, if anyone remembers, they had a little sub-plot about the Seperatist's building the Death Star. If they continue that, I can't imagine it being bad.


...Unless of course they mingle it with a Jar Jar Binks Power Hour...

The new scenes wouldn't bother me all that much if he had made the original cuts available on DVD. But he chose to change history instead. It's the principle that bothers me most. I'd much rather have some high quality official versions of the original films than my bootlegs, but according to Lucas that'll never happen.

As for the new scenes, they're pretty terrible. Greedo shooting first (don't care how much fanboys b*tch and moan about it, it's still a bad idea and a major cop-out), the dance sequence (I'll take three seconds of puppets to that cartoonish CGI crap anyday), Luke screaming like a little girl even thought he CHOSE to fall into the shaft (heard that got taken out of the new DVDs, still a bad idea on Lucas' part), the rediculous CGI Jabba (heard that got fixed, shoulda done it right the first time, though), putting Hayden in as a ghost, Adding Gungans tothe celebration at the end of Jedi (NOBODY liked the Gungans, why can't he figure that out?), the bit with the droid punching the little floating droid at Mos Eisly (really, who thought that was HILARIOUS?), etc.

There were plenty of welcomed changes (making Cloud City more open, adding the shockwave to the exploding Death Star, removing all English letters and numbers, etc) but he bogged it down with way too much unwelcome CGI that was just plain BAD.

Again, I wouldn't be so bugged by the changes had he at made the original cuts accessible. That's why Speilberg's "walky talkies" don't bother me, because he included the original cut of ET on the DVD. It's the principle, not me being picky. By changing history and pretending like the original cuts never existed, Lucas is completely disrespecting not only the original directors of Empire and Jedi, but all the people who worked hard to create the special effects that Lucas loathes to much. He's a disrespectful person who lost all film-making talent a decade ago. All he does now is take good films, make them worse, pretend like the originals never existed and then protest the optional colorization of the Three Stooges.

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Oh, man.


The dark tone of this movie is what will attract me. When evil reigns supreme, you know it's gotta be good.

As for the SFX in LOTR compared to SW, I'm not going there. Two different trilogies with two different genres means two different arguements.

HAHAHAHA!!! That's the response I was looking for!

AMEN. I totally agree with everything you said, dude.

I wasn't talking about which looked better. The point I was trying to get at was that Peter Jackson knew when to use it and Lucas uses it too much. I never said that it looked better in LOTR.

EDIT::: Sorry for the double post.

Ok, I got my rolling heads and dismembered body parts. This movie will be gold.

My biggest problem that I already am taking a guess at is the CGI. It'll look fake, I know it. The CGI Yoda really bugged me in AotC. I was watching this documentary thing about how they were trying to make him look like the original puppet did by the way he moves and his facial expressions and stuff and I was thinking "Well, if you want him to look that way, why don't you just use a freakin' puppet!" And in some cases it's the CGI that ruined some scenes in the original trilogy. Jabba the Hutt in A New Hope COULD have been cool, but no, it looked fake 'cause of the CGI. The mouths in the Sarlaac pit COULD have been cool, but looked fake. I dunno. I'd just much rather have somewhat limited puppets/animatronics/miniatures than CGI any day since it's really there.

Eh, I think everyone overreacts to the prequels. They aren't as good as the originals, but I don't think anybody expected them to be, and if they did, they were setting themselves up for disappointment. I like 'em for what they are and just look at them as part of a larger story. The CGI effects don't bug me much, since if we're not looking at things through rose-colored glasses, a lot of the effects in the originals looked fake, too, for their own reasons.

The DVDs, yeah, it would've been great to have the originals on DVD, but the changes don't bother me so much. Hayden as Anakin in "Jedi" seems like a slap in the face kinda, but it doesn't make me wanna kill or anything. I like how they fixed all the footage to make it all "match", like Luke and the Rancor they fixed up, and they "aged" the new footage to make it fit better with what they originally shot. Visually it really is the best-looking version of the films, but at least having the original scenes as an option would have been cool.

But anyway, I think Episode III is gonna rule.

I saw the Specials Editions first, so I cannot watch the originals...it just bothers me. I'm SO glad they fixed that Rancor scene...WHY Lucas didn't fix that before I wonder. As for Hayden replacing in Jedi...ehhh, can't say I LIKE it but it offers a fresh perspective on just who Anakin was BEFORE he became Darth Vader...although Lucas has messed my mind up again. He seems to want to make Darth Vader out to be its own entity that took over Anakin. Yes he was seduced by the dark side, but I liked to look on it as rather Anakin's personality behind the mask the whole time.

I'm excited to see Revenge even if it only lives up to the last two. Yes Phantom and Clones were Lucas' annoying attempt at putting as much CG animation as possible (good grief, we know you were frustrated at limited technology in the first three but still...enough). I like both movies well enough simply because I like the overall stories. But yes the acting is awful save maybe Ewan McGregor's parts. But I have looked forward to this third movie for years, seeing Anakin's fall and whatnot. I'll love it when I finally see him in Darth Vader's outfit...will just be too cool.

On Hayden as Anakin's ghost in Return of the Jedi, one of the reasons that I think it's so bad is because how is Luke supposed to know who that is? He never saw his father as a younger person...

The opening title text crawl has been leaked, in case you haven't heard.



:ohwell: It reads like a hunk of propaganda plucked from a WWII era comic book.

I still wanna see what they do with the Death Star plans. Also, like how Sidious started the war on both sides, so he's in a win/win situation. But damn, Hayden Christiansen is just not good at acting. I can't wait till they get Jones back in there to voice him over.

I read Darth Vader himself doesn't have many lines, so we'll probably be hearing Hayden for the majority.

As for where everyone was talking about over use of CG, just look at the Clone Troppers, sure they look good, but why in the HELL didn't he just make suits instead of having them all CG'd? I thought that was ridiculous.

Yeah, I agree. I understand that a sci-fi movie might require a lot of CG, but there are a lot of CG'd things that can easily be done with traditional effects, and look a lot better and cost a lot less.

Vader will be in the last 5 minutes; or so I've heard.

Good? I thought the clone troppers at the end of AotC was worse than most video games i've played.

Well, someone really spilled the beans for this movie, as almost everything about the plot and what happens in each scene has recently been leaked. From what spoilers I've read, I am more excited than I was when I saw the teaser trailer. Supposedly we get to see original trilogy stormtroopers in this one. :eyemouth: :thumbsup:

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