Spidey Discussion
 

Hey,
As a Spider-man fan i felt that we should have a thread to discuss the recent movements in the Spidey comics....
In the most recent Spectacular, Peter goes to Paris to find Sara, one of Gwen's twins. One proplem, as Pete is about to bed down, he calls MJ it's 7:00 am in New York, but if it was 7:00 in NY then in Pari it would be what....1:00 in the afternoon....whoops!!!

Well, the volumes of Essential Spider-Man contain most of the first appearances in them. But they're black and white and printed on newsprint (hence why they're so cheap), which isn't the best way to read the stories. You could always pick up the Amazing Spider-Man anniversary disc Marvel just put out. Contains what close to every issue of the Amazing Spider-Man up until the near-present.

My selections for TPB?

The Death of Gwen Stacy: It starts out as a big anti-drug public service anouncement, but turns around for the last two issues. A true classic and one of the few good comics Stan Lee's ever written (brilliant mind, bad writer).

Son of the Goblin: The definitive collection of the Harry Osbourne/Green Goblin saga. His redemption at the end is one of the best moments in the series.

Gwen Stacy's death was written by Marv Wolfman, not Lee, and was issues apart from the three part "Anti-drug" storyline written by Lee, which actually IS pretty damn good.

The trade paperback reprints the three part story because it sets up Harry's drug use and Osborn's return as the Green Goblin...

"Sins Past" and "Sins Remembered" are damn good story-arcs, at first I thought this would be the Clone saga all over again, but it's been handled with a degree of respect and deapth, that's how great J.M.S and Jenkins are as writers.

Ah, I just read the TPB and assumed everything was written by Lee.

And no matter what, the anti-drug arc reads horribly. I'm aware of how significant it was to the industry and that it didn't get the comics code approval, but regardless it's extremely preachy. Felt like I was reading an issue of Green Lantern/Green Arrow...only not as good.

I read a reprint of ASM Vol 1 #129 yesterday. That one's good cuz the plot was creative and the action was great. I liked how Punisher and Jackal teamed up. Even though Spidey duped 'em it was intresting to see 'em team up like that. Its great that the comic was free with the Marvel Legends movie Punisher figure.The comic was also the first appearence of Punisher and Jackal. I wonder if there gonna team up again? http://samruby.com/AmazingSpider-Man...d129_small.JPG

Did the comics ever do the further spider mutation storyline? (It would seem safe to assume so). I remember seeing The Punisher almost killing Spidey before he mutates. I loved that whole story arc on the 90s cartoon as a kid

All I remember about the mutanting was DopplerGanger.The Six armed Spiderman clone.That looks like a Spider without the mask.

The 90's arc when Spidey turns into Man-Spider was done in the comics, but the Punisher wasn't involved. I'd have to go look it up again, but Spidey has mutated into all sorts of things from Spider-Hulk to Spider-Lizard.

The Doppler Ganger was name of the character I think.

http://www.jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpan...-ManSpider.jpg
This is Man-Spider
http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Dopp...gangerSpid.gif
This is The Spider-Man Doppleganger. There's a difference. Mostly, one's an alien and the other a mutant.

Didn't the Vulture become the Dopplerganger.Just a guess.I don't remember.Carnage was the pyschopath one.

How in the world would an aging man who dresses up like a bird go transform into a six armed Spider-Man alien? The Dopplegangers were created during the Secret Wars, I think, and all of them but Spider-Man's died.

The Vulture became the Man-Spider after he drained Spidy of his Neogenic disease (and his youth temporairily) in the season 2 finale of the 90's animated series

Oh yeah, I forgot about that! I wish they'd put that show back on, I really enjoyed it. Well, everything except for that Madame Web... :sick:

I liked the 90's spiderman cartoon.It got 2 video games about the carnage fight.The second one with something called the life foundation.The Kingpin was huge.

Wrong.

"Maximum Carnage" and "Seperate Anxiety" were based on the comics, there was only one game based on the 90's cartoon.

Which one was it then.I don't remember.Explain which one it was.The comic book games.Were beat them up.With Music from a band called Green Jelly.The Music was heavy metal.

"Spider-Man" featured the option to select Fantasic Four members as special weapons, and bosses included Allyster Smythe, Shocker, and Green Goblin.

And stop telling me facts about the games that I already know, it has nothing to do with the subject.

The Doppelganger was created in the Infinity War saga...if I remember right evil clones were made of almost every character, but the only ones who lived were Doppelganger and Demogoblin. Then they came to play in the Maximum Carnage story.

This new Sins Past / Remembered story is alright... It seems a little rushed and I think Sara is going to try to get "close" to Peter. I still don't like Norman Osborn returning from the dead, but this story's not bad. Harry should definitely stay dead though. (he won't)

Demogoblin wasn't a doppleganger, was he? I remember demogoblin being a demon that possessed hobgoblin, then when the two entities separated one went on as hobgoblin and the other as demogoblin. It was in the whole Ghost Rider/Venom/Spidey Spirits of Vengeance story arc or something to that effect.

Jason Macendale becomes a demon...goes insane...still thinks he's human...has a great two-part Todd Mcfarlane story...gets seperated from his demon side, Demogoblin is created.

Must be pretty good stuff then joke.They must have been stoned out of their minds.To think this up.The old drug jokes.Some are pretty classic.Just a guess.

Some stuff is thought up with no ideas after it.

Yeah. Stan Lee and Don Heck were heavy into the hookah. :roll: Never heard of creativity, have you?

I think Bucky and Harry Osborn are the only two Marvel characters that will stay dead. Why? Because of the impact their deaths had on the book headliners, Captain America and Spider-Man, respectively.

Well, I thought exactly the same thing when Colossus and Psylocke kicked the bucket...

...And Aunt May

...And Jean Grey...three times

...And Norman Osborn

...And Adam Warlock

I never thought they'd bring back Norman since he had such a classic demise, but they did. Also they haven't brought back Gwen Stacy (except for the clone...and her dead ringer offspring).

Sorry about the Demogoblin info..I probably haven't read any of that stuff since it came out, my memories are fading.

It was at the very end of the Revelations story arc. I think you can still get that in TPB.

Basically, And I spoiler-tagged the end of a 10-year old comic book because there are a lot of whiney Nancys on this board who will complain that I spoiled it.

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SPOILED THAT FOR ME!! ARRGHHHHH!!!!! NOW I'LL NEVER READ SPIDEY AGAIN!!! :cry:

Honestly, I haven't read Spidey for almost a decade. I was disenchanted by the Clone saga and figured they'd never bail themselves out of this hole. When I heard about Norman's resurrection I did a double take, though.

Don't worry, they did, and due to the general disgust at how the story was dragge on, crippling EVERY Spidy title (until the movie came out), Marvel have refused to even acknowledge the story arc and any character involved ever again.

Aw, it's a shame we'll never see Kaine again......

The 90's cartoon got cancelled for some reason.At madame web.

Shredder utrom: I do really think that nachos with courtshow-flavour shouldn't be used for space flight either... Please stop that useless crap. You've got one chance left, if you mess up, you'll be banned.

As for the topic, as bad/confusing the clone saga was back in the day, they have gotten better. I'm especially enjoying Ultimate Spidey lately. Ther was this one issue where Doc Ock had him captured and found out who Spidey was. I've never seen Doc Ock so evil before.

Btw. Doc Ock: is he blind? In ultimate he has these scar-like looking things around his eyes? Also in the movie (of which I know that it hasn't got any connection to the comic books) I kept wondering.

I don't know about the comics, but I saw no indication of Doc Ock being blind in the movie.

Me neither but the thought crossed my mind when I saw the Doc wearing that blindfold and black glasses ever after. So that thought sort of crossed my mind.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Well, I don't know if it was mentioned in the movie itself, but I think in the comic adaption of the movie he had to wear the shades because his eyes were damaged by the flash of the explosion. He didn't go fully blind though.