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Shadow Leonardo 02-19-2005 09:34 PM

Donkey Kong Country Games
 
Sorry if this may seem old but, I still own these games and I still think it's an amazing game to play and have fun with wouldn't you all agree?

Duke 02-19-2005 09:46 PM

Yeah, I agree. I'm still a huge fan of the original SNES Country games. The 1st DKC is still in my top 10 list.

Barkworm 02-20-2005 01:21 AM

DKC2 is one of my alltime favourite games. I've just beaten it for the billionth time and it never gets old. DKC1 is awesome too but 3 lacks something. It's a great game but still.

ThirdMarioBro 02-20-2005 02:30 AM

It lacks the style and David Wise's music. It's cool, but DKC1, and DKC2 own it's ass.

It those games and Star Fox Adventures that make me miss Rare so often. :cry:

Still, I like Namco more.

The DKC games are eternal, and I'll always remember them as being some of the greatest games ever. Donkey Kong just hasn't been the same since them.

Sewer Bull 02-20-2005 12:41 PM

DKC series was great, I loved it, but I think that the plot sucked a lot. Yeah, I know it's madness to require a serious plot from a platform game, but if you can explain to me few things

1) the strange attachment K. Rool had for bananas. Come on, he's a reptile. He should at least eat monkeys and gorillas, not damn bananas. And he steals DK hoard in DKC1 and abducts Donkey for a banana ransom in DKC2 (at least - that's what instruction stated). Only in DKC3 he prefers to conquer the world.
2) Candy's absenteeism in DKC2 and DKC3 - she's not even mentioned, just substituted by Wrinkly
3) "not-very-brave" participation of Donkey in part 2 and 3. He was kidnapped twice by K. Rool and had to be rescued by weaker monkeys. And we know he was able to defeat K. Rool with a strong punch. Moreover - he wasn't competent enough to fight as a KAOS core against a blond girl chimp and a toddler. Must admint game scriptwriters have strangely treated a video game hero, who has become a Nintendo icon after humongous success of DKC1 - they gave him a role of victime in two sequels which is strange for the publicity.

If I remember something more I won't hesitate to post here.

Best wishes,

Robweiller

Barkworm 02-20-2005 12:52 PM

:lol: Are you serious?! That's like asking why Peach can't hire some decent bodyguards.

Sewer Bull 02-20-2005 01:16 PM

No, of course I'm not. I've only wondered about this strange decision creators made in DKC2 or DKC3. That doesn't make a good publicity to your key character.

Best wishes,

Robweiller

Dinny 02-20-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm
:lol: Are you serious?! That's like asking why Peach can't hire some decent bodyguards.

Or like asking why April was CONSTANTLY kidnapped in TMNT games. However I too was annoyed with the absence of DK in DK2 & 3

Barkworm 02-20-2005 01:56 PM

I didn't mind in DKC2 since Diddy was so badass. Dixie and Kiddy were a horrible duo though.

Voltron 02-20-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm
I didn't mind in DKC2 since Diddy was so badass. Dixie and Kiddy were a horrible duo though.


I never thought I'd see the words "Diddy Kong" and "Badass" in the same sentence. :lol:

I've only ever played the first DKC. While I never beat it, I was really impressed with it to say the least.

Barkworm 02-20-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron
I never thought I'd see the words "Diddy Kong" and "Badass" in the same sentence. :lol:

I don't know, I just loved the little guy. :lol:

愛 02-20-2005 02:10 PM

I do enjoy the Donkey Kong Country games. They are so ridiculously fun, it's crazy. My favorite was definitely the first one. DKC2 and DKC3 weren't as good, but they were practically the same game, so they're still great.

Sewer Bull 02-20-2005 02:16 PM

Everything was tremendous in DKC except for Cranky Guy. My word, he was soooo irritating.

Best wishes,

Robweiller

Barkworm 02-20-2005 02:16 PM

DKC3 was pretty different. For games about a bunch of monkeys the presentation of DKC 1 and 2 was quite "mature" (I can't find a better word right now). The introduction of Kiddy kind of destroyed that. And the music sucked. The game had some nice adventure elements though. The search for the banana birds and the interaction with the bear brothers was fun.

ThirdMarioBro 02-20-2005 02:30 PM

Also keep in mind DKC3 was produced by a different team while the DKC1 team went off to do Banjo Kazooie (known as Dream at the time) and Conker's Twelve Tales (which became BFD). It's also said that the idea for Banjo was taken from the Bear brothers in DKC3.

Diddy kicked Kiddy's ass, and Dixie was just plain cool. They shouldn't have buried her for so long (she returns in DK King of Swing, and Konga 2 FINALLY).

Sewer Bull 02-20-2005 02:36 PM

Oh yeah - I recalled what annoyed me also in DKC2 universe - the sad lesson that money makes the world go round. Greedy members of Kong family wanted banana coins for almost everything, even saving your game - and the fact that the goal of your game was to rescue their family member had no importance for them :roll: Not to mention Klubba, who was supposed to guard pathways to Lost World and his boss (he is listed as one of the Krenlings) - and he offered to open all gates for the modest sum of 75 kremkoins. Isn't that that a silent lesson that corruption may sometimes be helpful and justified in order to achieve your goals :lol:

Best wishes,

Robweiller

愛 02-21-2005 10:27 AM

I've grown accustomed to not asking questions about stuff from Japan. Their stuff is so whacked out sometimes, I just can't even begin to understand. It's the same with these games. What the hell, Japan?

Peanut 02-21-2005 10:43 AM

I actually made a run through DKC a couple weeks ago. It was fun, no doubt. I never owned DKC 2 or 3, but I played them numerous times. They were fun, but I didn't think they were as cool without good ol' DK.

Barkworm 02-21-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi
I've grown accustomed to not asking questions about stuff from Japan. Their stuff is so whacked out sometimes, I just can't even begin to understand. It's the same with these games. What the hell, Japan?

The DKC games are British.

愛 02-21-2005 02:48 PM

How can they be British when the original Donkey Kong concept was developed in Japan? Or maybe I'm wrong. I don't really follow this junk anymore.

Peanut 02-21-2005 02:50 PM

Rare is a british developer I'm pretty sure.

愛 02-21-2005 02:52 PM

Then that's why. Damn, I'm so out of it. That, and I've been tired all day. I need some sleep, or a bullet to the face.

Barkworm 02-21-2005 02:56 PM

Donkey Kong is a Japanese creation of course but all the Donkey Kong Country games were made by Rare, a British studio.
EDIT: Damn you Peanut!

Peanut 02-21-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm
EDIT: Damn you Peanut!

I OWN YOU! *t-bags Barkworm*

DrSpengler 02-21-2005 03:07 PM

Here's a question that's plagued me.

Is the current Donkey Kong the grandson of the original Donkey Kong or just Donkey Kong Jr all grown up?

I know Kranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong (just old) but I don't know if the current Donkey Kong is his son or grandson (one site tells me one, another site tells me the other).

Mecha Cow 02-21-2005 04:08 PM

I'm not sure if that's ever officially been cleared up, actually.

Shadow Leonardo 02-21-2005 04:36 PM

Um I don't think Cranky is the original Dk cuz then Mario would be old.

DrSpengler 02-21-2005 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Leonardo
Um I don't think Cranky is the original Dk cuz then Mario would be old.

No, he is the original Donkey Kong. At the beginning of Donkey Kong Country he's standing on top of the old fashioned red-girder set up playing a record player when the new Donkey Kong shows up with a boombox.

He also references the original Donkey Kong game and his adventure often. I think in Donkey Kong 64, when you find the Donkey Kong arcade game, he says something to the effect of "Here's one of my old games". Etc. Etc. He's the original Donkey Kong.

In regards to Mario being "old", it doesn't work that way. In the crossover games like Mario Party, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Smash Bros, etc, there is not rhyme to reason or continuity. Hence how Baby Mario, Metal Mario, and Super Mario can appear, all at once, in Mario Golf.

Donkey Country, timeline-wise, takes place a good many years after Mario's adventures. And yeah, Mario should be old by then (but he isn't in any of the games).

Also consider that Cranky is a monkey and Mario is a human. Shorter life-span would mean he ages faster than Mario. And that's only if you want a crazy theory.

ThirdMarioBro 02-21-2005 10:05 PM

Nintendo kinda admitted it by leaving Cranky in Donkey Konga.

Demented Utrom 02-22-2005 12:04 AM

Your right about Rare being a british Devolper.Nintendo had sell it because the United Kindgom was complaining about nintendo overcharging europe.I think Mircosoft bought it if a remember correctly.

Sewer Bull 02-22-2005 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler
Donkey Country, timeline-wise, takes place a good many years after Mario's adventures. And yeah, Mario should be old by then (but he isn't in any of the games).

He actually appears in the end of DKC2, along with Yoshi and Zelda, as one of the DK coins greatest seekers. And looks young there.

Best wishes,

Robweiller

ThirdMarioBro 02-22-2005 12:20 AM

Incorrect Shredder utrom. They sold their stake in Rare because Rare sold their half to Microsoft for a fat ass sum, and Nintendo didn't have a controlling stake, so they sold theirs as well and made a killing on the deal. Rare has since produced crap, and soiled their name.

Demented Utrom 02-22-2005 12:28 AM

A British court was sueing nintendo because they controlled the video game market in Europe.

Barkworm 02-22-2005 01:47 AM

Do you have a link or something to prove that? Because I'm 99% sure that that's complete horsesh*t.

Peanut 02-22-2005 06:11 AM

Ignore the troll.

DrSpengler 02-22-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robweiller
He actually appears in the end of DKC2, along with Yoshi and Zelda, as one of the DK coins greatest seekers. And looks young there.

Best wishes,

Robweiller

Eh. Then it's a continuity error.

Hell, Link and Samus appear in Super Mario RPG and I'm not about to jump through any hoops to figure out how they got there.

Sewer Bull 02-22-2005 12:04 PM

OK - "young" I meant "like a middle-aged man". No grey hair or moustache yet, but already not a youngster. This trio (Mario, Yoshi and Zelda) makes a cameo, when Cranky concludes the sum of DK coins gathered by Diddy, as the legendary Nintendo characters. Still, Mario took part in original DK games from 80, so he should be as old as Cranky. Definitely a continuity error.

I think that one of Bear Brothers once mentions "a plumber" and "a little green guy with a sword" in DKC3, but not surely.

Man, I love ranting over the minor flaws of the games published exactly 10 years ago :D

Best wishes,

Robweiller

Peanut 02-22-2005 12:29 PM

There can't be a continuity error because there is no continuity! Why even try to fathom where Nintendo comes up with this stuff?

愛 02-22-2005 12:38 PM

Like I said, I just don't bother. I can only see continuity in some games, like Metroid and stuff.

ThirdMarioBro 02-22-2005 01:55 PM

Yeah, Mario & DK are eternally doomed to repeat the same canned story over and over til the end of humanity. Wouldn't have it any other way. :D It's about the gameplay, not the story......unless it's Super Mario RPG.


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