Ontario bans Pitbulls
 

Ontario is the first province or state in north america to ban pittbulls.People will have to put the dogs down.If they can't find a home for them out of province.Your thoughts.

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That sounds pretty stupid.

Any good reason for this?

Because Pitbulls are stupid animals. This has been going on for a couple months now. I really don't care, I don't own or like dogs, especially Pitbulls. There have been a lot of attacks by those stupid animals over the last year. Including one killing a 3 year old. I'm glad they did this.

Ontario is always do something .People that got them banned were probably attacked them by before.Pitt bulls are pretty nasty dogs.I think their ill tempered dogs.

But it's never the dog, it's the owners. If you don't treat a dog properly, then the dog will become a maniac. You can even get a poodle to be a killer.

But, of course, it's never the humans, it's always "the others".

Or they got scared due to excessive media coverage.

People made them nasty.I don't think some people should own animals.If they don't know how to take care of them.

Exactly, and putting down Pitbulls won't be of much help either. I mean, then those people will get Dobermanns and whatnot, there's plenty of dog races left.

Is there any sources for this ban? I can only find the proposal of this ban and that it was "slammed as genocide"

Sun Media canada.They own some big cable company.

Good, I'll edit your first post in order to include a source.

And the Pitbullfans were right, this is genocide.s

This is sort of on topic. Not too long ago, a woman living in Chapel Arm, Newfoundland(I live in Newfoundland) was attacked by dogs of a mixed German Shephred and Husky breed.

Full story: http://stjohns.cbc.ca/regional/servl...l-arm-20050222

Then you got to ban those two races too. And my neighbour was attacked by a border collie when she was five years old. Why not just ban them too? This is insane...

I believe most of the problem lies with owner neglicence, whether its deliberate or not. Many countries have limitations and regulations when it comes to owning a 'dangerous breed' of dog. Some breeds, like Dogo Argentino were bred primarily for fighting and hunting jaguars and pumas. Even more common breeds like the American Pit Bull Terrier are naturally aggressive towards other animals, and if not handled and trained properly, will become aggressive towards humans.

I think instead of an outright ban, a better course of action would have been to require all present and future owners of Pit Bulls (and other dangerous breeds of dog) to attend and pass a training and obedience course, and to keep their dogs leashed and muzzled in all public places. Uncle Ben said it best: With great power comes great responsibility.

Yeah. That's the best idea

I agree with DH. Funny story:

My neighbors across the street bought a bouvier about a decade ago. Sure, it started out cute enough, but eventually it became this friggin behemoth as time went on. Their kid could literally ride it like a horse.

Anyway, they sent the dog to obedience school since it would attack anything that seemed afraid of it. The dog passed the class after about three months and for some reason the school held a graduation ceremony (no lie.) Since I was their kid's friend at the time, they invited me to witness their dog recieve it's diploma (I couldn't believe it.)

So there we were, watching a row of dogs obey commands and what not, and my hyper-active friend would not shut up and sit still. He'd swear, insult people in the crowd, and was just being a pain in the ass in general. Long story short, he got kicked out of the graduation ceremony for not being obedient. :roll: So, yeah, we need courses for people, too.

Yeah, that was a pretty funny story that you told me. I think I need an obedience school, what with my unnecessary comments as we travel around.

I don't like dogs either, but making the owners get their pitbulls killed if they already own one is sick and communist.

okay... first off... when you read that article...

Anyone who's already got a pit bull just has to have them FIXED... not deported or killed. Puppies born 90 days after the law 'begins' will need new homes or to be put down.

but anything born 90 days after the ban was passed? would have to have been bred about a MONTH AFTER the ban was passed. Normal gestation in pit bulls is 63 days. So you don't wanna kill puppies? don't breed your dog-- infact-- get it fixed!



having said that.....

banning specific breeds is ridiculous. YES pit bulls have been bred to the point where the dogs are AGRESSIVE-- but there's plenty of other breeds like that. Banning pit bulls would have to be part of a large-scale "banning all dangerous animals" initiative.... which since Canada has bears NATURALLY... it's kinda silly.

DH has the right of it, owning large breeds should be a licensing issue. You license the dog, and you're PERSONALLY responsible for the animal's actions. It mauls a baby? You're facing man-slaughter charges. If people TRULY believe that "Cuddles" the 500 pound Rottweiller is not a threat, they'd go ahead and license him.

Licensing should involve compulsory obedience training and PET CARE courses. And the License should be transferrable upon sale of the animal. If you're willing to OWN a dog that weighs as much as you do... you've got to be responsible for it. No matter WHAT the breed.

You live in Newfoundland!?! That's awesome! I was born there, and have over half my family still living there. I hardly ever meet other Newfie's online.

Oh cool! I hardly meet other Newfies online as well, so it's so refreshing to meet you!

What part of Newfoundland were you born in?

I was born in Gander, and I lived in Lewisport for awhile, which is where my dad is from. I was actually just back there summer before last, and I think I'm going back this summer. Which part of the rock are you from?

Well, I'm orginally from Freshwater, which is in Placentia Bay. I'm currently living in St. John's going to College of the North Atlantic.

Personally, I think its stupid. It is true that the dog's usual behaivor depends on how the owner treats and trains it. I got bit by a dog in the cheek that was molested by these irresponsible kids when he was just a pup. I was only 4 then but we gave him to an owner that was strict so hopefully he wouldn't be as aggresive. There's a true story on how you should treat any human or animal you wished to be treated if you were in his or her place. Sorry to sound so... mature. I'm usually bad on giving "speeches".

I'm not a dog person myself but why punish the dogs for something that is obviously the owner's responsibility? To train and take of the dog.

They aren't forcing people to kill their animals. I am pretty sure it is only they can't be sold or breeded in Ontario. But I also think this is kind of stupid. Sure they are trying to fix a growing problem, maybe they should make it mandatory to enroll the dog in obedience classes or something like that. It was also in the paper another viscous dog is being breeded in Ontario now, it looks like a pit bull but twice the size and much stronger.

Hmm, how little is actually known by the mighty pitbulls. Banning isn't the solution... the reason why, is, to my knowlege, this won't aply for mix breeds with pitbull in the blood lines... because its hard to proove if you don't have papers or any sort of contract. So people will just get "mutt" PitBulls, or unlicenced PitBulls instead... ((any dog not registered to the Canadian or American kennel club is considered a mutt, weather they be actual purebreds or not. You need a contract))

My roommate ((Who happens to also be from Newfoundland :o )) is taking a vet tech course, and is also heavily into the Dog Scene. ((She does obedience and is involved with the Kennel Club of Newfoundland)) what's interesting about the kennel club of Newfoundland is that they are really against this breed banning and are trying to find alternatives to help veer away from that kind of situation. One of the main reasons for this is because of a few pet stores that have opened there.

Why is that a threat? Because the logic of puppies from pet stores are to get un-educated people to purchace an over priced puppy-mill pup on an impulse buy. Puppy-mill dogs are often Ill, or have bad temperments. Dogs from Backdoor breeders aren't much better, either. This will cause huge problems because when you get a dog from an actual breeder, they will often only send pups to homes where they think is most suited for the pup, which will reduce problems such as bad behavior, poor training and having their pups be sent home to homes or get euthanised... while pet shops just want your cash, and will sell any dog to any person... even when its evident that your personality and lifestyle really don't suit the type of dog your getting. For example... a Timid person who's getting a dominant PitBull for a first time dog, not a good combination and your sure to get problems.

Back to the point, my roommate has statistics that sugests that PitBulls aren't the real problem... in fact, in the last 20 years, there's been only 25 deaths cause by dog attacks ((or was it 20 in 25 years?)) here in Canada, and only 1 was caused by a PitBull... Other statistics also sugests that Labradors and Cocker Spaniels are far more dangerous then Pit Bulls, because they are the leading breeds to of been reported for dog bites. Any type of herding dogs ((Shepherds)) are also particular on biting, because of their herding nature... they nip the heels of cattle to move them, and they will on people too, if they aren't taught against it.

What's sad about this is that PitBulls are vitcims of bad press... You hardly ever hear of any other type of dog attacks out there, unless there's a PitBull involved... which is really unproportionned... cause there are MANY dog attacks out there in the world, but we only focus on the PitBulls... and in North America, Seeing is Believing... and our minds have been programed to hate PitBulls because of bad press.

What's even sadder still, is that people still really do misstread PitBulls, such as throwing them in fighting rings where they fight to death. Its still very existing today... and these dogs get mutilated in very gruesome ways... My roommate has pictures to proove it. This breed happens to be one of the breeds to suffer from bad treatment the most. They are still used and abused and are slowly ripped appart.

But given this breed a chance to be properly socialised, properly cared for and placed in a home with a proper owner, they really can be very loving companions. A well trained dog with a "job" is a happy dog... and I've seen the diffrence. Keep the dog occupied, and by doing so, you'll have a happyer dog... most dogs who attack suffer issues such as neglect or poor training ((letting your dog run loose, never disciplining bad behavior, ect..)) ... people just have to realise that PitBulls aren't a breed for "just anyone"... it takes a special strong minded type of person to deal with these dogs for a successful healthy relationship...

and there's my 2 ((maybe 3)) cents

i dont know. pitbulls still scare me.. more so then any other breed. but the kid who lives down the street from me has a pitbull. and it got loose.. alright this is the story. one day i was out washing my car. the pitbull got loose. and when it saw me charged me. i freaked out, but i didnt run.. you know what it did. came right up to me.. licked my shoe and ran off. so i don't know. i do think its the people who own the pitbull that turn them into vicious dogs.

It is kind of sad that they are being banned because of their bad reputation. I have known some pitt bulls that were very friendly dogs and well socialised and raised. That is the key with dogs, if you raise one in a proper enviroment, socialised properly and have had obeidience training they are nice dogs.
ANY dog that has not been raise right will be vicious.
What about Doberman, Rottweiller, and other 'bred to protect' breeds?

This breed has a bad rap because of a bunch of jack@$$es who breed nad raise them to fight each other and kill. That is where the publicity is, bad bad bad. Kill the dog, what about the stupid breeder?

I'm not a dog person but I believe there is no bad dog, just bad owners.

Here's a thought!
So why don't we jsut solve the WHOLE problem and put down every dog in the north american continent? There, no more dog attacks. :roll:

Britain banned Pitts a long time ago, so there's none there.