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ZariusTwo 06-29-2005 10:00 AM

Fantastic Bore: FF Movie Slammed
 
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20532

This, I'm assuming, is why Fantastic Four feels very much like an extended episode of Charmed


LOL

Mecha Cow 06-29-2005 10:21 AM

Well, that article is written by the same guy who jizzed all over Revenge of the Sith, so I don't think he's in much of a position to say what is and what isn't a good movie.

Meh, Fantastic Four looks alright, I'll save my judgement for after I've seen it.

*E* What a sh*tty 'review'; He didn't even bother explaining why he thought the movie was bad, thus doing a great job at wasting my time.

Also, 500th post!

Barkworm 06-29-2005 10:42 AM

All the trailers of this movie have looked incredibly lame, I wouldn't be surprised if the movie actually was equally bad.
Jessica Alba is hot though. :lol:

Peanut 06-29-2005 06:55 PM

I'll see it before passing judgement. These know-nothing critics really don't matter to me.

tekcop 06-30-2005 01:01 AM

I'm not going to bother with the review, but I'm a huge Fantastic Four fan and I don't think I'll be seeing this movie in the theatres.

Brodie 06-30-2005 10:01 AM

This movie's preview is a better Fantastic 4 flick than the original.

The Stryker 07-01-2005 01:29 AM

The Trailers were terrible and make the movie seem like its going to be another Batman & Robin but im still gonna see it and if its good, Hey atleast our Expectations will be low.

Hannah 07-03-2005 03:39 PM

I thought the trailers were cool. o_O

Dane E5R 07-03-2005 05:12 PM

I agree, the trailers look fantastic to me. No pun intended, seriously.

Mandi-chan 07-06-2005 08:28 AM

I think it looks good, but may wait for the dvd release...

Brodie 07-06-2005 08:29 AM

Oh man, who ever ryhmed Four, with BORE?! HILARIOUS!

raphael_is_cool 07-06-2005 04:10 PM

The trailer, to me, looks like the film came into production this way:


INT. FILM STUDIO EXEC'S OFFICE - DAY

The WRITERS and STUDIO EXEC are sat at a desk, opposite each other.

EXEC: So, you guys have a film proposal?

WRITER 1: Yeah, you know what we need more of?

WRITER 2: Comic book movies!

EXEC (cautious): Go, on...

WRITER 1: Look at all these other films...Spiderman, Batman, Daredevil, Elektra...

WRITER 2: I wrote Hulk and Punisher!

EXEC (unimpressed): Oh...okay...

WRITER 1 (quickly changing tact): Well, anyway...all these films have one lead character. Imagine how much better it would be if you had four in one film! With a super villain!

EXEC: Hmm...go on...

WRITER 1: Fantastic Four! No one's done that yet!

EXEC: I always figured it might be hard to do a film like that...

WRITER 2: Nuh uh. All you need are some poorly cast, but attractive to most audiences, actors and have you seen what CGI can do these days?!

WRITER 1: I reckon they can even make big, spongy, orange suits look good!

WRITER 2: Definitely!

EXEC: It'll have explosions, too, right?

WRITER 2: Four times as many as your average action film

WRITER 1: The script will be excellent too. You see we've got one or two elements from the original

WRITER 2 (excited): Or should we say 'four'?!

WRITER 1: (to WRITER 2) Shut up
(to EXEC) So, yeah, some of what resembles the Fantastic Four that everyone knows and loves is there, but get this...

WRITER 2: ...we've filled it with so lots of cool, witty lines!

WRITER 1: People will be quoting it for weeks

EXEC: The Thing will say 'It's clobberin' time', won't he?

WRITER 1: Crap, totally forgot that. We'll add it in one scene...maybe in two scenes...

WRITER 2: But, yeah. You could definitely sell those push-button talking figures these lines are so quotable. Get this, at one point The Invisible Woman says...she says...she...I can't...

WRITER 2 can't stop giggling. WRITER 1 is smirking then decides to finish it off.

WRITER 1: She..She says 'look at me'

They all laugh uncontrollably.

EXEC: Sold!


Sorry, was bored and got a bit carried away... :P

Brodie 07-06-2005 04:52 PM

I liked Punisher.....

raphael_is_cool 07-06-2005 04:56 PM

I knew someone would pick at that. I've never seen it. I hear comic book fans like it. But I'm not sure if a film executive would see it as a big blockbuster film for a mass audience. I know it never even got any real promotion over here.

Peanut 07-06-2005 04:57 PM

I liked Hulk and The Punisher. In fact, I think Punisher was awesome. What exactly was so bad about it?

GK Punk 07-06-2005 08:07 PM

I haven't seen Hulk, but I liked the Punisher... Im looking forward to the FF, I think it looks neat.

damnhooligan 07-06-2005 08:16 PM

Well, I caught the preview at the theaters when I went to see War of the Worlds. Looks pretty cool, and actually made me want to see the movie.

I'm not sure if I can get used to Ioan Gruffudd's American accent though.

愛 07-06-2005 08:20 PM

I've seen previews in the theaters and on TV, and I'm looking forward to this movie. I love movies based on comics, mainly because I'm trying to make up for my lack of comics in my childhood.

And I liked Punisher.

ThirdMarioBro 07-06-2005 08:28 PM

Frankly IMO, Marvel movies can do no wrong. I'll be seeing this.

Jester 07-06-2005 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro
Frankly IMO, Marvel movies can do no wrong. I'll be seeing this.

I consider myself a marvel comics fan, so i will definatly see this movie. Heck, I've seem almost all the Marvel Comics movies...including the 94 FF and the 85 Captain America. Still need to see Howard the Duck...but that can wait....:P

ZariusTwo 07-07-2005 09:44 PM

Fantastic Flop


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four/

26%? Harsh judgment, this makes FF the Marvel equivilant of Batman and Robin, once more, the worlds' "greatest comic magazine", is handled absolutley f*cking poorly

Brodie 07-07-2005 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro
Frankly IMO, Marvel movies can do no wrong. I'll be seeing this.

See man-thing........

ZariusTwo 07-08-2005 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie
See man-thing........


...And Cormens' Fantastic Four

...And Electra

...And Nick Fury (Hasselhoff version)

Brodie 07-08-2005 11:33 AM

I wanna see the Sam Jackson version of Nick Fury....

Anyway. One good thing came out of this, the entire series on DVD, did anyone get it? Is it work the 30 bucks?

And I had heard that the original movie was coming out on DVD too...

DrSpengler 07-08-2005 12:19 PM

I picked up the Fantastic Four box set on tuesday. The first season is utter trash and I can't believe I suffered through the whole thing. My God, it was worse than I remembered it. And Michael Austin Green doing his endless rap during the Moleman episode...I'd sooner catch a bowling ball with my face than watch that again.

HOWEVER

Season 2 was literally fantastic. First off, they got rid of that sh1tty "On an outerspace adventure..." theme song and replaced it with an orchestrational theme that was really good. They also switched animation studios and changed character desgins for a more serious tone. Then they changed some voice actors (most noteably, the FIRED Austin Green) and to top it all of the destroyed the Baxter Building in the first episode so we'd never have to see that b1tchy landlady again.

The cameos from Marvel superheroes were great. We got Daredevil, Black Panther, Thor, Ghost Rider and cameos from the Avengers, Spider-Man and the X-Men. And th best one of them all, Hulk and Thing have a serious one-on-one battle. Awesome.

So yeah, for the second season alone I'd say the box set is worth the price tag. You just have to suffer through a tremendously awful first season in order to get to the perfectly awesome second.

Jester 07-08-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo
...And Cormens' Fantastic Four

...And Electra

...And Nick Fury (Hasselhoff version)

The '94 FF was so lame it was great....:p an unintentional comedy....

Electra....yeah that was pretty much crap....

Nick Fury: Agent of Shield.....Saw it and was suprised how much I actually liked it...it was just campy enough to work for me....

Hey Zarius...u ever see the 85 Captain America? With JD Salanger's son....

ZariusTwo 07-08-2005 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester
The '94 FF was so lame it was great....:p an unintentional comedy....

Thanks to this recent farce, it's probably the best F.F movie ever :lol:

Quote:

Hey Zarius...u ever see the 85 Captain America? With JD Salanger's son....
I OWN it, it's not as bad as people say it is, and does a decent job of showcasing Captain America's origin, and his early battles with The Red Skull, although the script is a little bland

Jester 07-08-2005 08:55 PM

Saw FF tonite...suprised at how good it was, great action, humor and heart....a great feel good comic flick....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarius
I OWN it, it's not as bad as people say it is, and does a decent job of showcasing Captain America's origin, and his early battles with The Red Skull, although the script is a little bland

Although Cap was in costume for like 10 minutes....and Skull was Italian...:P

ZariusTwo 07-08-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester
Although Cap was in costume for like 10 minutes....and Skull was Italian...:P

15 minutes in beggining, middle, and end respectivly, you mean :lol:



I just finished watching the downloaded film, absolute p*ss story wise, the only saving graces were the conclusion that sets up some possible new developments for the sequel, Chris Evans' accurate portrayal of Johnny Storm, and most of the directing, which were far above earlier efforts from the guy behind "Taxi", I hope he's attached to more of these, because for whatever faults the script had, the style made for compelling viewing.

The remainder of the movie seemed...generic, The Thing looked ugly, Sue, nothing but a rack of tits who occasionly turned invisible, and Doctor Doom was basicly Batman Beyonds' Blight meets G.I Joes' Destro.

As much as I think The Incredibles sucked, it's story, combined with the characterstics and direction of this movie, would have made for an ideal F.F effort, and far much more of an emotional investment from people expecting a genuine attempt to cut off the boaderline popcorn fundimentals that stifiled Electra, but no, it's just that, popcorn fodder

Jester 07-08-2005 09:24 PM

I actually caught myself thinking more of Willem Defoe's Green Goblin from Spidey....a stiffed buisness man with powers who uses the to get revenge....:P

And....
Spoiler:
The ending seemed rather "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to me....the whole doom crated in a sea of other crates....although it seems that FF2 will take place most likely in Latveria....:P

Spitfire 07-09-2005 03:27 AM

I read about this movie over a year ago and I said to myself "This is going to suck" Then I saw something from it in a game preview and I said "Wow this looks like it's going to suck" then I saw a short TV spot for it where they showed some filming of it and I said "Wow this looks like total suck" A month or so later I went to the movies and saw a preview and I said "God this looks like a bunch of suck" Lastly I saw TV ads every commrcial break during my favorite Comdey Central programs and I said "Could this suck anymore? It's just a giant ball of sucking suck. a suck-fest if you will"
And Rotten Tomatoes has confirmed the suck. There is one movie on there I really like that they gave a bad review and that's Underworld. But other then that their correct 99% of the time. I like movie critics I hate video game critics

Barkworm 07-09-2005 03:33 AM

Why's that? I mean, video game reviews are a lot more based on objective points than movie reviews. If someone says the controls of a game are lousy, it's most likely a matter of fact but if someone doesn't like the plot of movie x it's often subjective.

Spitfire 07-09-2005 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkworm
Why's that? I mean, video game reviews are a lot more based on objective points than movie reviews. If someone says the controls of a game are lousy, it's most likely a matter of fact but if someone doesn't like the plot of movie x it's often subjective.

Most games are reviewed to appeal to Casual gamers. I see people bash Devil May Cry 3 and says it's to hard, yet they praise God Of War. Their both bascially the same game except GOW is way easier. Games that take skill to play never get good reviews. GTA will get a great review but a good game like Mister Mosquito will get a horrible review because it's different...Not every reviewer does this though. Just every magazine, and 90% of the internet websties*If not all of them* My friend claims G-4 gives good reviews but I saw a show on there that said RE 4 had bad controls <_< The bottom line is people are shallow and dont like change. So if a game tries a new concept it rarely gets a good review. I don't care what anyone says everyone hates Nintendo and loves Sony. The PSP games out got rave reviews where the DS ones just got decent or horrible reviews. I like Kirby's Canvas Curse, NFS:U2, Star Wars 3, Yoshi's Touch And Go, Mr.Driller, and Mario '64. But because it's on DS it gets a bad review. I can play Ridge Racer on my PS2 if I need too. I don't want to play MGS with cards. But I guess everyone else does. So PSP games get great reviews and DS games get the iron fist. And I have played a PSP. Every game on PSP that is out in the US in fact and I thought they were all eh. Boring really, sure decent I guess. To be honest most of them just plain sucked. The PSP is more like an I-pod with a DVD player in it. But that's a different arguement
Anyways bottom line is critics in the gameing industry are biased to whatever company they like, shallow. In movies it's not like that. That is why I trust movie reviews. Game reviews steer me toward the wrong games and away from the fun ones. As where movie reviews have kept me from the crap and where the good stuff is. Reviews told me AVP sucked and it did. They told me Blade 3 sucked and it did. They told me Batman was good and it was. Easy as that

BartAllen 07-09-2005 05:37 AM

I saw fantastic four, i didnt pay to see it either. and while it wasnt the greatest, it could of been worse. and it does suck that alba was used for the T and A factor. when susan storm is a really interesting character. oh well.

Ra 07-09-2005 05:57 AM

Fantastic Four isn't really on my 'To See' list. I never really liked the cartoon, so why should I go and see the movie? To go to sleep excluded I mean

ZariusTwo 07-09-2005 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ra
Fantastic Four isn't really on my 'To See' list. I never really liked the cartoon, so why should I go and see the movie?

Because it's not based on the cartoon, but on the comics?

Raven 07-09-2005 10:19 AM

seeing this movie just made me want to go see a good comic book film like Batman begins and Spiderman.
The changing of the orgin did nothing to the story, Doom still comes from his home country, and the others still got there powers.
This movie didnt really add or take away, its like they looked at one of the comic's and did it panel for panel....and changed Unnecessary things just to sell the movie. The final fight between Doom and FF was so boring, if I were to blink I would have missed it. Where was the story? there was nothing going on, sure we got to see what life was like as the FF, but I felt like I was watching a episode of the real world, and not a big buget movie. This movie really sucks, it could have been so much better, but instead of trying to make a good movie with a good story, they went the usaul route and made it gimmiky as hell, just so they could make some money. Terrible movie.

Brodie 07-09-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
I read about this movie over a year ago and I said to myself "This is going to suck" Then I saw something from it in a game preview and I said "Wow this looks like it's going to suck" then I saw a short TV spot for it where they showed some filming of it and I said "Wow this looks like total suck" A month or so later I went to the movies and saw a preview and I said "God this looks like a bunch of suck" Lastly I saw TV ads every commrcial break during my favorite Comdey Central programs and I said "Could this suck anymore? It's just a giant ball of sucking suck. a suck-fest if you will"
And Rotten Tomatoes has confirmed the suck. There is one movie on there I really like that they gave a bad review and that's Underworld. But other then that their correct 99% of the time. I like movie critics I hate video game critics

How does something look like Suck? Or a bunch of suck?



Anyways, not to step on this kid's longass hot topic pants, and his utter urge to struggle to be funny, F4 wasn't a "big ball of suck." Sure, the dialogue sucks, and the Thing sucked hardcore. That doesn't mean its a big ball of suckage, which would imply a black-hole of some kind. Chris Evans was awesome as Johnny Storm, cause Johnny is cocky and arrogant, and he was all these things. He attempted to be the character while everyone else tried to make it their own. I have to admit, the bridge scene was far better than the final battle, and there seemed to be more at stake. The costumes were alright, probably the closest to the designs of the comic books. The directing was great, far better than that of Resident Evil flicks, Elektra and probably Catwoman( I didn't see it, so the only one who could tell us is the DC fanboy, MP).


And why go by Rotten Tomatoes? It's just a bunch of idiots (Like you and I) who saw the movie and put in there two cents. I'm not trying to Defend the Fantastic Four as a definitive kickass comic flick, cause it's not, but jesus h. christ, chief, you guys are nuts. Just cause this isn't Spider-Man (which, thanks to Tobey McGuire, I hate) you guys piss and moan. ******** on that, it was a better attempt than Elektra and Catwoman.

And lets not forget the 94 version of the F4. This comic is something so weird it walks the very thin line between funny/cool and campy/stupid. The original movie was dogpuke, hilarious campy dogpuke, but this atleast tried to take itself more seriously, for the comic book's sake.

It's not that effin' bad.


Edit: And Jessica Alba was in her underwear, half you fanboys aren't ever getting laid. Fork over your 5 bucks.

Spitfire 07-09-2005 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie
How does something look like Suck? Or a bunch of suck?



Anyways, not to step on this kid's longass hot topic pants, and his utter urge to struggle to be funny,

You lost me right here. Mainly because I dispise Hot Topic and a associating me with it is just ludacris...gah the posers that shop there sicken me. They buy clothes for bands they dont listen to. Then they try to act badass because they have a Slayer shirt. It's pathic...and their pants suck. I USED to shop there about 3 years ago and the pants I did buy got all ripped up with-in 2 weeks....

Jester 07-09-2005 11:42 AM

Indeed Brodie, Jessica Alba is well worth the price of admission...:P

Come on guys....is this movie really worth fighting over??


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