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Leonardo_ 09-01-2005 08:59 PM

Change of voices
 
Here in the Drome are some more people, so I ask here, too:

I don't like it, if in series after a while the voices change.
In the german version of the old toon it is Don who gets an other announcer after a while. I find it changes the whole character. BAH!

What's your opinion?

Masked Ninja 09-01-2005 09:45 PM

Well... I've never had that happen to me...

But if the voice changes mid-show, I think that would be ridiculous. It would be like suddenly changing the actor in a live-action TV show.

Jester 09-01-2005 09:55 PM

There were episodes in the OT where the voice actor changed....like in Mutagen Monster where Barry Gordon (Bebop/Donatello) was replaced by the voice of Scotter from Muppet babies...Bebop was ok...but Donnie was freakin attrocius.

KROW 09-02-2005 08:03 AM

Didn't the man who voiced Leonardo get assigned to do Raphael as well during the Red Sky episodes? I know Raph's voice changed at the tail end of the series, and I didn't particularly care for that.

Space Lieutenant Josh 09-02-2005 08:59 AM

I dunno, but he did sound a whole lot like Leo.

Leonardo_ 09-02-2005 10:09 AM

Sadly I don't know the english version :ohwell:

Weapon X 09-02-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW
Didn't the man who voiced Leonardo get assigned to do Raphael as well during the Red Sky episodes? I know Raph's voice changed at the tail end of the series, and I didn't particularly care for that.

Nope after Rob Paulsen left/quit, they got a new guy.

KROW 09-03-2005 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X
Nope after Rob Paulsen left/quit, they got a new guy.

Right, but you're saying it wasn't the same person who voiced Leonardo? They both sounded alike to me.

Jo269976 09-03-2005 08:21 AM

no way should they change the voices, they all suit the characters, could you imagine Raph with Don's voice or Mikey with Leo's? no changes! :lol:

Jo269976 09-03-2005 08:22 AM

oops sorry thought you guys were talking bout the 2003 one :tlol:

KROW 09-03-2005 08:45 AM

No need for double-posting, friend. That's what yon EDIT button is for. :)

Leonardo_ 09-03-2005 09:27 AM

Not about the 2003 one. It's general, Leo_rulez.
I didn't see the new toon yet. :ohwell:

Weapon X 09-03-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KROW
Right, but you're saying it wasn't the same person who voiced Leonardo? They both sounded alike to me.

No it wasnt Cam Clark who voiced Leo, it was a completly new guy.

Sage Ninja 09-07-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo the 2nd
Here in the Drome are some more people, so I ask here, too:

I don't like it, if in series after a while the voices change.
In the german version of the old toon it is Don who gets an other announcer after a while. I find it changes the whole character. BAH!

What's your opinion?

I for one really don't like it when in a cartoon they change the voice actor of a character mid-way. Because each actor brings something unique to the character that they are playing that makes up what the character is.

The only time I ever like it when a character gets a new voice is when I really hated the voice of the previous one they had.

I thought for the most part that the classic TMNT was pretty good at keeping the orginal voices. At least for the main characters. I didn't even notice half the time when they had different voices for for some characters when i was younger. Like for Shredder or Splinter or Bebop. Which they did perodically sometimes.

I did notice how ever when they changed the voices around for the turtles. i don't know i was just really intuned to what they where saying and I hung on their every word so much that I couldn't help but notice.

I always knew when they had an alternate for Raphael because I thought the guy sounded like a retarded Kermit the frog :sick:. And the alternate they got to play Donatello had such a monotone that every time he spoke I would get so bored :sleep:.

For some reason the voices for Leonardo and Michaelangelo where never changed and always stayed the same. Which I was gratful for. I don't think any one could replace these two, their voices where just too distictive, particularly Michaelangelo's voice. I would have known straight off the bat if his voice was changed.

damnhooligan 09-07-2005 11:19 AM

Usually when TV shows change voice actors, it kinda bugs me for a while but I get over it in time. Case in point: Crow on MST3k. I dearly loved Trace Beaulieu and was sad to see him leave the show. But after a little hesitation, I grew to love Bill Corbett's Crow even more.

But Old School Raph's voice will forever be Rob Paulsen to me. Screw that other guy.

GK Punk 09-07-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by damnhooligan
But Old School Raph's voice will forever be Rob Paulsen to me. Screw that other guy.

Word. Or whatever hip phrase the kids are saying these days is.
Everytime I hear his voice in anything I shout "DUDE IT'S RAPH!" and all my friends look at me like :roll:

Weapon X 09-07-2005 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alison Chains
Everytime I hear his voice in anything I shout "DUDE IT'S RAPH!" and all my friends look at me like :roll:

Yep me too, except it's my mom rolling her eyes, :P

But yeah Rob was perfect for Old Toon Raph, just perfect.

KROW 09-07-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by damnhooligan
Usually when TV shows change voice actors, it kinda bugs me for a while but I get over it in time. Case in point: Crow on MST3k. I dearly loved Trace Beaulieu and was sad to see him leave the show. But after a little hesitation, I grew to love Bill Corbett's Crow even more.

I second that. Corbett's voice took a bit of getting used to, but after a few shows, it became easier on my ears. I considered it to be some form of maturity thing (if a robot could do that). Then again, the thought of Crow's voice chip wearing thin, resulting in the change of his pitch, also played through my mind.

Masked Ninja 09-07-2005 04:28 PM

I just think it's kinda funny/weird/cool (which? *shrug*) that at least on the first old toon DVD, Leo's voice sounds almost exactly like Leo's from the new toon. Yes, they're differnent... but they're definitely the same, er, breed (?) of voice.

I think I like old Mikey's voice better, aside from the retarded-sounding "duhawhawhaw's" he does. New Mikey's voice is a little to screechy and whiny for me.

Old Raph was great, but he wouldn't fit the personality of new Raph very well. I like the deep voice and Raph sounds great with a NY (ish) accent... maybe if it were a little less chainsmoker-y it'd be perfect.

And Don? I love both his old and new toon voices. Huzzah.

Jester 09-07-2005 04:38 PM

James Avery is Shredder.....the replacement for him wanged chung!

Weapon X 09-07-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester
James Avery is Shredder.....the replacement for him wanged chung!

Yeah the replacement seemed like he was trying too hard or something.

Sage Ninja 09-09-2005 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja
I just think it's kinda funny/weird/cool (which? *shrug*) that at least on the first old toon DVD, Leo's voice sounds almost exactly like Leo's from the new toon. Yes, they're differnent... but they're definitely the same, er, breed (?) of voice.

Yes I know what you mean by that "breed" of voice, you mean that noble sounding voice. In most mediums Leonardo has always had that strong handsome voice. I think both Mike (New toon V.A) and Cam (Classic toon V.A) do that sort of voice brilliantly. I really loved the voice that Cam Clarke gave to Leonardo in the first season.

I thought it was really sexy sounding :oops: excepically with the resonance he seemed able to pull off when he dropped his voice. Its kind of to bad that in the other seasons he tended to give Leonardo is sort of "going through puberty" sort of voice. Although I still thought that it maintained its core, strong and noble qualties in his voice. And I still thought his voice was sexy sounding, he just sounded more like a teenager than an adult in later seasons (except season seven and red sky) and I think that is what they where going for. I wish that Cam Clarke could have gotten the chance to sing as Leonardo, he has a really nice singing voice! :)

I hated his move voice though :dead:

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I think I like old Mikey's voice better, aside from the retarded-sounding "duhawhawhaw's" he does. New Mikey's voice is a little to screechy and whiny for me.
I have to say I really like both the voices of Michaelangelo from the Classic toon and the New toon :D . However I always loved Michaelangelo's voice from the classic toon. Surprisingly his voice was probably the deepest out of the four turtles and yet he still managed to sound like a teenager. Others may disagree with me but I liked how Michaelangelo's voice in the old toon didn't sound whinny or brain dead, (I actually don't think he sounded like a retard and he could even sounded intelligent when the occassion warrented it) and he actually had variations to his voice. for instance he defenatly was the party dude type and was generally in a light mood; but his voice actually could sound serious, sad, frustrated or even upset with out it seeming odd or out of character. He voice was able to display different ranges of emotion with out it making his character apear weird.

I don't think I under stand what you mean by his "duhawhawhaw's" though :ohwell:

In the New toon I like his voice and I think it suits this Michaelangelo personallity well. I don't think his voice screechy sounding (except for when he screams). I think his voice is just a bit scratchy and even posses a bit of a gravel to it as well. Either way I think it suits him and his hyper active personalty.

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Old Raph was great, but he wouldn't fit the personality of new Raph very well. I like the deep voice and Raph sounds great with a NY (ish) accent... maybe if it were a little less chainsmoker-y it'd be perfect.
I loved classic Raphael's voice it was great he was just able to get across such an range of emotions (generally disdain or sarcasm) with his voice and his dilvery on most lines and just generally how he would say them was just great.

I don't particualrly care for New toon Rapaheals voice only because out of the four of the turtles he sounds the least like a teenager. But I like that tough guy presence he seems to radiate. 8)

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Don? I love both his old and new toon voices. Huzzah.
I love both his voice too :D I can't decide which one I like best. I keep going back and fourth between New toon and classic toon Donatello's, and I keep comparing them against each other. and I'm like: classic toon Donatello sounds more brainy and techno-geekish and fits the whole genius persona better, but then i'm all: New toon Don sounds more charming and sounds more like a teenager, and more modern day computer geek-ish. I can't decide.

GK Punk 09-09-2005 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X
Yep me too, except it's my mom rolling her eyes, :P

But yeah Rob was perfect for Old Toon Raph, just perfect.

haha, actually I've gotten that from her aswell :lol:

Masked Ninja 09-09-2005 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja
I don't particualrly care for New toon Rapaheals voice only because out of the four of the turtles he sounds the least like a teenager. But I like that tough guy presence he seems to radiate. 8)

I like his voice for the "tough guy" thing... but you're right, he sounds like a 35-year-old smoker rather than a teenager. Maybe soften up the voice a bit but keep the attitude.

Though now that I think about it... I have come across some teenage guys with pretty low voices - so it's possible. Still sounds a little off, but it is possible.

Leonardo_ 09-09-2005 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja
In most mediums Leonardo has always had that strong handsome voice.

In the german toon he has got a very whiny voice.

Don's first voice sounded like if he would be gay, but I always found it calmative.

Sage Ninja 09-09-2005 11:27 AM

that has always interested me on how the voices sounded when it was dubbed into other languages. Like if they where able to maintain the core essence of the chatacter they way it was portrayed by the orginal voices.

Like in the sounds clips section of this site where you can hear the theme songs in different languages, In the japanese dub Donatello seems to have a very deep almost tough sounding voice :o . As does Leonardo. Which I feel could change the perspective of the character.

I wish that we could have more sound clips of the TMNT dubbed voices from other countries just talking talking in general, from the classic toon.

Oh I'm notsure how true this is but I heard that in the classic toon Cam Clarke orginally supposed to voice Michaelangelo and Townsend Coleman was supposed to voice Leonardo. Does any one here know if that is true?

Shreddette 09-10-2005 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X
Yeah the replacement seemed like he was trying too hard or something.


I agree. It was cringeworthy. I put up with it though cause he was in it, it was better than an episode with out him so I couldn't really complain.

I watched episodes without him (before red sky where I just dropped it entirely) merely out of habit, but I did pout about it.

Gimme the Avery Shredder or give me Death.

Silent FOx 09-10-2005 07:34 AM

I really didn't like the changes when I watch the eps now, but I kept watching the show and eventually got used to them after a few eps. All of the original voices were done the best, and of course are the 'real' voices. James Avery as Shread Head For Life :D But it is obvious why they made the changes, when I watched the show as a kid I would never notice the changes, because most kids didn't watch every single episode.

Weapon X 09-10-2005 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent FOx
when I watched the show as a kid I would never notice the changes, because most kids didn't watch every single episode.

The one i noticed the most when I was little was Don's because I soooo recognized it as Scooter from Muppet Babies.

Sage Ninja 09-12-2005 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddette
I agree. It was cringeworthy. I put up with it though cause he was in it, it was better than an episode with out him so I couldn't really complain.

I watched episodes without him (before red sky where I just dropped it entirely) merely out of habit, but I did pout about it.

Gimme the Avery Shredder or give me Death.

Their where several alternates for Shredders voice. I know that one of them was Jim Cummings and this guy is a voice actor god. I know that Townsend Colman (Michaelangelo's voice actor) occassionally filled in as the voice of Shredder, Krang, and Splinter. And you know what? I never knew that their voices had changed :o . I never thought that any of them sounded like Michaealngelo when he was filling in for them.

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The one i noticed the most when I was little was Don's because I soooo recognized it as Scooter from Muppet Babies.
OMG you are right!! I think that it was Scooter from the muppet babies. It is funny how some peoples voices can sound alike or similar even though they are diffferent. The guy that does Scooter voice is a very close match for Barry Gordon as Donatello. I guess thast is the same thing that Masked Ninja was talking about the "same breed of voice".

For instance Cam Clarke (Leonardo's voice actor) was often the replacement voice of Simba from the Lion King with the tv series about Timon and Pumba in place of Mathew Brodrick. I mean Cam And Mathew have very similar sounding voices, so it worked, I didn't even know that it wasn't Mathew Brodrick doing Simba's voice. Hey fun fact Cam Clarke does the singing voice of Simba in the second Lion King movie.


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