Which was the greatest incarnation of Michelangelo?
 

(I carried this over from the temporary forum)

Be sure to explain your preference.

I'm going with old-toon Mikey, he's cuter and from what clips I could find showing him, his voice was less annoying than in the new toon.

oh god I 'm glad this was brought back up, I just wuish my posts from that thread could have been carried over:-? I was quite proud of them and I put allot of thought in to it. I wish now that I could remeber what I wrote. As of now i only vaguely recall them...

I just hope this thread doesn't die:|

As promiced though I will get into new toon Mike:)

So far the "old toon" version is winning, with Mirage following. But so far only four people have voted.

Its really hard to say he has always been my favorite on all versions but I think Ill probably go with old toon cause he was the one that started my fandom for the TMNT and I really like his voice , way better than the new toon voice :)

New toon. Because he has much more personality than any of the previous versions. And I love Wayne's take on Mikey's voice.

I Wish I Could Vote For Both The Movie And New Toon Micky. I Think They Are Indentical. But Since Ive Seen So Much More Of The New Toon Mike I'd Have To Go With Him. All I Have To Say Is "battle Nexus" And "touch And Go"

As much as I love new toon Mikey, I'm going to have to go with movie Mikey instead.

I don't always like the way the writers of the new toon write my favorite turtle, they've gotten into this horrible habit of writing him as an overly annoying goof-off. He didn't start off that way, but since season 2 they've lost their touch with him, I'm hoping that after "Grudge Match" they'll wise up with his character!

original is still the best!

"Michaelangelo is a party dude (Party! ) "

Mirage. New toon would be second.

new toon mikey he`s cool

Mirage because he was great in it, he was cool and funny, but not to the point where it was forced, in fact it was no where near that, and he fought, really well.

I'd pick Movie 1 Mikey after that, mostly for the same reasons, but Mirage is definitely my favorite.

I really wish I could get my hands on some Mirage comics, so I can see the guys as they originally were! I can imagine Mikey being the best there.

I'd have to say Old Toon Mikey.

He may have been all about pizza and "Cowabunga Duuuudes" but he wasn't as annoying as the movie mikey's. He had a more tolerable voice in the old toon and he's way cute in the old toon, makes me laugh. I don't laugh at any of the others jokes.

Mirage Michelangelo.

Very simply, he's the character with the most depth, flavor, and, well, character.

The media versions are, in my opinion, thinly-veiled stereotypes and cliches. Michelangelo in Mirage was never the comic relief gag character. The Archie character was quite a bit better, especially near the end of the series, but still not up to par with the Mirage version.

Not to mention, Mirage is the original! :D

Laterz.

I'm going with the Archie comics Mike since he was very level-headed in that series while still maintaining the fun-loving surfer dude personality from the original cartoon.

The greatest one?

Of course this one:

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Yeah. Mikey's anime version truly kicks ass.

Hah! :lol:

Technically, the TMNT had three anime versions --- normal, super mutant, and metal mutant!! The version above is just Mikey's metal mutant form.

Heh. Laterz.

Yep. But that one is the coolest:P

Super Mutant Mikey is just... errr... not that cool :|

original Comic we have the most in common

ok I had written my responce to this thread in another thread in the temporary forums and I'll just copy it here on my choice and why.

here it my orginal responce:

ooooohhh this is a difficult choice because I am a Michaelangelo fan all around and how can I pick and choose. By the way I'm sooo glad some one made a thread like this

To be tottally honest I'm going to go with classic cartoon Michaelangelo. He is the first version of him that I knew and of him and the one that I became such a big fan of. I liked him because he was such a generous and good natured guy that was so sociable. He also had a big heart and I just thought he was cute and adorable. I also liked that even though he was generally cheery and up beat that he could show other emotions and wasn't two demincanal. I remeber times when he would be pensive or down or upset. I also liked that he could be serious at times too when the situation called for it. And to be honset I didn't find him annoying, I mean there where times when he could be a bit whinny but he I never found him annoying or obnoxious.

I also liked the concept of his character, here are four turtles that are out casts of society they tend to keep to them selves and seem to be fine with that for the most part. Michaelangelo was socialble and wanted to just go out and make friends and party. Which is weird for a freak of nature to do, all the the other turtles had personalities that more or less fit their status of misfits and ninjas. Leonardo was the serious dillegent leader , Donatello was the quite technical genous , and Raphael was this sarcastic wise guy that was cynical about every thing and Mike's the easy going party dude his personality didn't fit with being a social out cast. In that sence he was kind of the black sheep of the family or the odd ball. It was cool the way they did this, because normally the one that is anti social and introverted is the misfit of the group, but in the turtles unique situation that concept is reversed.

But then that are core elements that Michaelangelo in most mediums has possesed I gues that is why he is my favorite. I think he was like this his other incarnations as well. The only Michaelangelo's that I;ve seen are live action movie, classic cartoon, and new toon. I have no idea what he is like in other forms. Personallity wise and in nature is he basically the same?

and because I can't have a single post where I don't analyse in some way here was my thoughts and analys on classic cartoon Michaelangelo, I hope you like it, this was my orginal post...

ok I tried putting this with my post above but it wouldn't let me, I know that double posting is generally not allowed but I hope the moderators don't kill me:dead:

Continutation of above...




thankyou I am glad I could make some people see Michaelangelo from the classic cartoon in a better light. He deserves it.

I think allot of people disregard his character as being foolish because they just see what is on the surfice of his character and do not see what is beneath. He is in fact rather interesting character. He was always portrayed as being a compentent fighter but not as good as the others (mostly in the later seasons), he seemed to struggle the most during thier lessons (or at least showed the most reluctance). This interested me about him because he seemed very good in fighting but always seemed to struggle to keep up with the others. I sometimes wondered if he actually didn't want to really try hard so that he wouldn't cause conflict with the others. Any way the fact that things didn't come easily for him (or atleast they apeared to be) kind of endeared him to me because it made him human to me that he had to struggle just to keep up with the others and stay on the same playing field as them.

I always wondered if maybe he wasn't as good a fighter sometimes during practice because he deep down didn't want to be a ninja, personally as compentent as he could be in actual battle I don;t think he had the temperement for it.

I always got this empression from him that even though he was the most cheerful of the four, he was probably the most aggravated about not being able to go out in public and make friends and be normal. Here he is learning how to skate board and surf and engaging in all these very social activities and he really can't go out and do them in the open with other people. It was like he was forever getting ready to go party but there was never any one to party with . And he was always so excitable about these things but it was kind of sad that he really couldn't have done them in the way that he probably wanted to. I kind of felt sorry for him.

And because of Mike's blase attitude, I always got a vibe of excasperation off the other turtles and they where like :what the hell is wrong with you!? do you not realize that you are a huge walking, talking, friggen turtle! why don't you act like one. I think this made Michaelangelo an outsider even in a family of outsiders because his personalty was to extraverted. Which is a shame because the others didn't take him seriuosly as a result.

My biggest pet peeve is when people think that Michaelangelo is a moron or a simpleton, which I think is so far off from the truth. He is (I think) just as intellegent as Leonardo and Raphael. Michaelangelo in fact wasn't that dumb, there where plenty of times that he used he showed how smart and resourceful or insightful he was, particularly in battle. He was just never really given a chance to use them to often in the series. I think allot of people confuse his amiable dispostion as stupidity he was just guiless and unpretentious, if you watch him closley you will see that he is actually pretty quick on the up take in allot of things. People tend to attribute smarts and intelligence with being sly and cunning and even decietful; which Michaelangelo wasn't.

All in all classic toon Michaelangelo is the most likeable for me. He is probably the most humble and soft spoken version of him since he isn't cocky and obnoxious. And he just had a natural sweetness about him that I adored. Plus he was fun and very empathatic.

I'll get into new toon Mikey later

And I really will get to my thoughts on new toon Michaelangelo :evilgrin: he deserves to be discussed a little too, in detail.

I love character analisations and Michaelangelo gets so little of that on the forums:-? , I think its because people tend to think of him as just a goofy character thats just comic relief:( , and there is more to him than that. Hope this thread continues.

I'd say Mikey from the old toon. Thats where he's most Mikey for me. Its probably the slightly naive, childish setting of the old toons. Though the mirage comic come in at a fair second.

Well, gotta love him anyways.

Old toon... and the movies. He's got that carefree lifestyle and "pizza rules!" mentality.

Im totally with you Sage Ninja I really like your opinion on Old toon Mike cause thats exactly how I feel about him and relate too, Thats why he has been my favorite since I was like eight

Movie Mikey followed closely by NT Mike. Because they are about the same: funny and still able to kick some serious shell!

Mikey was cool on the old toon,but the new toon he seems alot more carefree and happy. Plus he makes me laugh,so does RAph though.:lol: shhh

Mikey is more recent right now-collecting the comics and acting like a wise guy- Ahhh, my ideal guy

i'll give you a clue...

"PIZZA TIME!!!"

old version Mikey was the greatest, def. the funniest, lol i loved it when he called Shredder a tin can

To those here that have read the archie comics, exactly what is Michaelangelo like in that comic series? He is supposedly suppoed to be like his orginal toon counter part, but some one here mentioned that he was level headed in the archie comics. Was he a better fighter than his orginal toon counter-part?

He was sorta like his OT counterpart, but he was much more level headed, he joked and had fun, but knew when it was time to put a way the knock-knock jokes and take out the chucks.

Ok now it New Toon Michaelangelo's turn:evilgrin:

I have to say that i like this portrayal of him rather well. What is interesting about him is that he in most mediums has beeen portrayed as this easy going nice turtle that cracks tough situations and lightens the mood. And even though that still carries in this vesion Michaelangelo in the new toon can actually be quit antagnistic and cocky. This at first really bugged me about him and I started out not liking him all that much. But As the series progressed I started to to rather like this side of him a little, it gave him an edge that made him interesting. Also as I watched I noticed that Michaelangelo's cockiness and his talent for annoying his brothers where actaully his own passive aggresive way of reacting or retaliating to something that his annoyed him.

I'm serious look real closley next time you watch the new TMNT, you will see that many times when Mikey starts acting annoying its in reaction to something that was said or done eighther to him or in his presence. Its usually in reaction to something that has irked him (at least that is how i've percieved it). It is actually a good indicator to what Mikey is feeling at that moment by how hyper active and obnoxious he gets, and it shows that he isn't actually this uninpregenable fortress that nothing fazes him. Stuff actually do irratate/anger him and that is his way of realeasing those negative feelings...is by being a complete hyper active nusance, its his way of coping with his frustration I think. the more unpleasant the circumstnaces the more forth coming Mikey is to start "acting out" or saying somthing that is inappropiate.

A perfect example of this "annoying his brothers in reaction to something that they say or do to him" is: at the end of the Battle Nexus championship, he shows off his trophy and and this gets Raphael all pissy, and he point out that he only won on a technicality. This statment by Raphael really puts down Michaelangelo's achievement and hard work that he did just to get to the finals; its hard not to feel offended by such a statment and Mikey undoubltly was offended by this stament. But how does Mikey react? Instead of showing anger or throwing a punch in Raphael's face he turns around and cockily reminds Raphael that even if he did win on a technicallity he still beat him (Raphael). By saying this it shows that michaelangelo was irratated/angered by Raphael's comment and realiated by pushing Raphael's buttons and saying the one thing that would piss Raphael off ( If he hadn't been bothered by Raphael's comment he would have been indifferent to what Raph had said) Which made Raphael reataliate in typical fashion and he starts beating him up.

Now you would think that this would be a stupid thing to do on Mikey's part and that he must be a glutton for punishment. Not so really. What Michaelangelo was doing was trying to save face by turning what was said to put him in his plce back on that person and get a rise out of them. It is something along the lines of "yes you just pissed me off, but I'm not going to let you make me loose face and react to it, so I'm going to to piss you off and make you loose your cool so you look like the chump, not me" type of thing. Being able to incite a rise out of some one and make them loose control of them selves by showing thier irratation or anger kind of gives you the upper hand, and a sence of being in control. I bet Michaelangelo loves getting a rise out of people who annoy him, even if the result is him getting floored, he still has the satisfaction of getting them to that point.

So yeah to cut this short before I get into chapter two, this is my feeling and perceptive of New Toon Michaelangelo. I my analisys on his behavior on the money or not?

Now this maybe so to some degree, but I think the media has always tryed to portray Michaelangelo as the youngest of the turtles. So what they did was make him the "pop culture" turtle who makes all the refrences to all the teenager like fads that teens enjoy. Hence why in the classic cartoon and the movies that premiered in the eighties, he has this sterotypical "suffer dude" persona with the accessories attached to it: the skate boarding, the suffereing, the break dancing ect. All things that where perceived as cool and teemagers of that era glorified.

If the TMNT had premiered in the 60's or 70's i have no doubt that michaelangelo would be portrayed as a hippie or a disco lover.

Same reason why in the new toon Mikey is always making refrences to pop culture and throughing out cliche one liners such as "raise the roof" and has a sort of wanna-be-ghetto type of persona at times.

Michaelangelo in tv has always reflected the era that he is in and what is popular at that time. Its for that reason that Michaelangelo will probably be the most dated of the turtles when a few years from now when you watch re-runs of the TMNT you will be just a tad flinchy at his "out of date" lingo and intersts.

To those that have read the mirage comics, since it premiered in the 80's, did Michaelangelo have a suffer dude persona as well, or did the classic toon come up with that on their own?

Like I said with Raph, Mirage Version is the best.

OT is the best mikey cuz thats the version ive grown up with and alwaze been used to, and hes soooo funny:lol: :lol: :lol:

No, he did not.

then what the hizell was Mirage Mike's personality like then?!:ohwell: D

Well any way even though I adored classic cartoon Michaelangelo one thing that bothered me in the old toon was the way they would make him the butt of the joke all the time by the end of every other episode. I mean sometimes it was funny but other times I remember being rather irratated by it.

Was this case also in the Mirage comics?

Haven't read the comics, well i've read some of the Archie ones back in the day but i don't recall looking after them enough to last long enough for me to remember them too good. So i can't really vote.

The way my vague memory looks at it i think the new toon Mike is the same as the old one, but then again they seem to be laying off the pizza craze a bit compared to the old one so i guess my votes steadying towards the old one (pizza so rocks).

That said isn't Michelango the same party dude in all of them would you say he's different in certain versions?

Can someone please explain the differences for me if it's not too much problem? I only know of movies, old and new toon, and still don't see that much of a difference.

i'd say the old toon for me, mainly because thats the first time i witnessed the tmnt and thats when he made the biggest impression on me :)