Thanks for that nice long OPINION POST dude. We all have our opinions and you've just proven your intelligence with your little post there. Yes, the comic is awesome, but any kid that wants to see any movie about our turtles wants to see the cartoon turtles. Who on earth wants to see a movie about a comic that almost no one knows about? A select few. If you think they based the movie just on the comic, you are what we call in america, a retard. No longer do I want to read about YOUR OPINION again, so dont bother replying.....turd.

Shellfox couldnt be more right. At least if a rats gonna do martial arts, it'd better have some strange power (mutation) rather than just being a fake animatronic rat that cant do crap in a cage......rats are stupid, like that heretic fellow

Well said, Heretic (doesnt really sound like something positive :D )

But seriously, I reacted very strongly at the "What do people from Finland know about The Sacred Foursome anyways?". I dont know were you are from but I can speak for myself (plus a few others).
I live in Sweden, what do Swedes know about turtles anyways? Karpo knows more than you'll ever do.
I dont feel I have too explain more, If so then you're the biggest moron I've ever known.

now you two are downright low, are you making fun of karpo cuz he's from finlnd, he knows a hell of a lot more than you do than the tmnt and it shows, the cartoon ruined mike and raphs personality's if the was no comic than there would be no cartoon

Dude, next time you post speak english. I dont speak Swedonic. :) Do you REALLY know me? Are you that fellow that is always peeking in my bedroom window? I am from Sweden too, but I tell these americans that I am from there to make them think that all americans are as smart as me. No, you do not know me ugly person.

I must agree with my intellect on this next comment. You are retarded. Have you not read anything we've posted about people having opinions and whatever? Your opinion is now the worst opinion in my opinion, you may rottttttt in turds forever now, retarded one.

If your are talking about me as one of the two i take offense. I have not made a comment about anyone from finland. Personally I believe you can be imformed about the gospel of the turltles anywhere in the world.

Let me guess, you're one of those retarded asses who belive its snow all year round in Scandinavia?
And dont make comments on my spelling. As I said, I'm Swedish, and English isnt my native tongue, moron.
Otherwise, its called Swedish. How about learning to write in English?
I dont know you, you are fully aware what I meant writing it.
Neither do you 'know' me. You have no idea how I look. If you havent figured that yet, its an avatar. Ohh! Yeah! Karpo looks like Raphael!
Dont even bother to replie. I doubt you can make yourself seem even more stupid

exactly, I am smart enough to know that what I think is called an opinion, unlike these Swedes and Finnish turds........hmmm

Oh and for you Mr. Finnish turd guy, YES I can make myself seem more stupid, give me some time. :) And yes I do know you......you are ugly.

Well I could get offeded but I can see that guy is a little brat who wants to scream, I don't think I will. Nor I wont need to respond to that. He obivously know little to nothing about true TMNT or the cartoon for that matter.

Of course people can have their own opinnions, but little brats like that tend to get on my nerve. Luckily he seems to be only one like that here, other people had good opinnions. I have watched almost full TMNT cartoon in last months(170 eps). And I own the Full Volume 1 of TMNT comic. Cartoon is better for kids, Mirge for older people.

If someone likes the cartoon better, thats ok. But have you even read the comics? If not, you can hardly say wich is better. As for that guy Zenrick, We all should ignore him.

whoever is making fun of the swedish should be banned and quit be prejudice retards

He is just a little brat wanting some attention. We should all just ignore him.

so much fun.....
 

A rat learning a martial art like Ninpo is not quite as far-fetched as you might think. Ninpo is based on refining flow and natural body movement, not memorizing preset movements like karate is. It is till unrealistic though... however, it is nowhere near as unrealistic as the idea of a mutagenic agent that can 'turn' you into whatever animal you last touched. That's just stupid. A hyper-evolutionary agent could at least be credible (although still highly dubious).

And, like I said before, the point of a plot in truly great and creative art is to express deep themes and archetypal energies, not 'realism'. Both the cartoon and comic are unrealistic, but only the comic expresses true depth.

I find it humorously ironic that you yourself were pushing your own opinions as 'facts' minutes before, but now criticize me for supposedly doing the same thing??? :roll:

And, unlike your dubious posts, my posts were in fact NOT rooted in opinion or personal preference. My discussion of creative depth in art is based on direct personal experience of internal self-liberation. An opinion is an idea in one's head. What I discuss is concerned with subjective events to be experienced by any with the psychologic capacity.

The comic series DOES express creative depth and archetypal energies. The cartoon does not. The comic is an example of truly independent, deep, and creative art. The cartoon is not.

This may suprise you, but the world is not comprised solely of children.

Anyone who has read the comic and that possesses adult-level intelligence and an open mind.

First off, *******, I AM American and you are the one that strikes me as the mentally handicapped here. And the movie WAS based off the Mirage comic series. The entire plot was an adaptation of the early comic series. There were some changes, of course, but the rooftop battle with Shredder, the ambush of Raphael (it was actually Leo in the original comic), the origin story, the farmhouse training, the assault on April's apartment, the existence of April's father's antique shop, the fight between Casey Jones and Raphael.... THAT IS ALL FROM THE COMIC!!!!

Seriously, have you even READ the comics???!!

Well, child, we don't always get what we want in life. And, as I said previously, my posts are based from directly cognized personal experiences and events, not my personal preferences.

I am 22 and will never let go of the TMNT cartoon as the best form of ninja turtle entertainment. I have read the comic book, it is good, but will never catch hold of me quite like the cartoon.

Opinion is spelled with ONE 'n' not opinnion
I think I also read someone spelling reply as "replie" man, speak correct english if you're going to be on an english speaking site.

he should be banned, and thi thread should be locked. as for your comment i agree

zenrick shut up

Ahh first he acts like a total jerk, then works as a spell checkker. And seriously no one is going to belive you are 22. I think more like 13 and I have seen many people at that age act much more mature than you do. Maybe you should either shut up, or learn how to behave on public discussion board.

"Opinion is spelled with ONE 'n' not opinnion
I think I also read someone spelleing reply as "replie" man, speak correct english if you're going to be on an english speaking site."

I belive you're 'spelleing' 'spelleing' wrong, moron.
People can spell wrong, especially when using a keyboard. Ever thought of that?

Re: so much fun.....
 

Ok right here I THOUGHT you were just an idiot. Now I KNOW. "Blah blah blah archetypal energies blah blah, look at me guys I learned this sweet word in english class let me use it over and over again!!!"

"Blah blah blah archetypal energies blah blah blah" man, you are amazing.


My archetypal energies tell me you are incorrect budd-o smelly pants.

zenrick is looking to get warned, but im hoping he should be banned

My archetypal energies tell me you are incorrect-o buttman. Hope all you like, but I have the distinct power of the ARCHETYPAL ENERGIES on my side!! BRRWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! *punches someone using archetypal energies*

heh heh heh
 

They made him a rat in the movie because he was a rat in the comic, of which the movie was based on. Trust me, BOTH origin stories are unrealistic to begin with. But, the point of real art is not to express realism but to express depth. The comic saga does this. The cartoon does not.

Just because the cartoon mass-popularized the characters does not mean it defines them. The apex of the turtle archetypes is hardly limited to the amusement of children.

This is true on all accounts. Debasing people due to their nationality is small-minded, and the cartoon truly did butcher all of the turtles' characters, but Mike and Raph the most.

I'm not going to even touch the self-hypocrisy of that post.

Intellect, huh?

Well, you have to understand that for most people this is simply a matter of personal taste and preference. However, for those that begin to experience true depth and the value of great art, it becomes apparent that there are superior modes of self-expression. The mirage tmnt series connects with that. The cartoon does not. But, until you mature as a human being, the truth of this will seem dubious.



I could not agree more.

OK now Im begining to think that this guy deserver a warning. He seriously can't take a hint, but goes on offending people. I hope Krang reads this thread, we don't need people like that here. If people won't agree with you, you start offending people and their Home countries? Really, you should leave this place. We haven't had jerks like you much here, and I think all agree when I say we don't need people like you here.

we dont need people like you here and we dont want people like you here, dissing people an their home countries? that is low

Re: heh heh heh
 

What kind of dirty tree-hugger are you? You smell of butt rott. Do my energies indeed come from the archetypes? I must say so.

Way to band together with these other turds that dont like me, bring more people in here and get them to argue, its fun. Turd.

I hope you guys arn't talking about me..

i was just saying that people have there own opinions

Is warnings even worth discussing? He should be banned, right on the spot.

um zenrick did u notice your the only one calling people turds maybe that you should take a hint a realize that you are the only turd around here

Dude, that was like 20 years ago, man let it go and keep arguing on new topics. I dont like any country, so I have a lot to say about them all, where are you from? I can find many many things to say about it too if you like? Or we can continue to discuss the turtles. Bring it on buddy.

how about you F*cking read what it says by my name OHIO stupid, wait um ill be like you, you turd

yup
 

22, my pregnant ass!!

I agree completely.

Well, this 'idiot' has an International Baccealureate Diploma, child.

As for my discussion of archetypes and archeypal energies, I suggest you take a look at transpersonal psychological literature if you want to understand.... or better yet, Plato's discussion of Forms.

Thank you, child.

It is unintelligent to use words you don't know the meaning to.

It would be ill-advised to initiate a physical confrontation with me, child, as I have several years of martial arts experience.

We really should start ignoring him. It does no one any good to fight with him. We have all seen what kind of jerk he is, Im sure Krang will give him a warning or maybe even a ban if he doesn't stop that.

So you dont like Sweden and Finland because those living there dont speak and write 100% correct English?
Once again you're a moron if you think you can just switch topic. You offend people because of their home countries and then belive that they dont care 10 minutes later?
But yes, its time to leave this obviously immature person alone.

In no where does your profile say OHIO, I see O hi O, hmmmmmm do I smell a fetus turd? and whats with the swearing buddy? Swearing isnt cool lets not cuss here. Since you are an american you are obese, americans are all obese and anyone that denies it is a stupid obese american in obese denial. and NO you will not be like me because I am not obese like you. Turd.

i'm not from sweden or finland, but wht he is doing is wrong

And now I just hope this Thread gets locked and and that guy gets a warning. Hopefully Azure is here soon before this evolves into a real fight.

zenrick i hope you know that your comeback jus kept repeating itself over over and over

Hahahaha, what are you guys gonna do? Fly from your home countries to try and defend your title as TMNT debate master!! hahahahaha. Oh and what heretic said about physical confrontations and having martial art experience, I am still laughing as hard as ever about that!!! AAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!! "Your training may come in handy someday my son in case you get into a heated ninja turtle discussion!" aaaaahahaha, I bet your archetypal energies told you that. Oh, and you're pregnant as well? Is your fetus typing this stuff?

You shoudnt say anything about debate, since you obviously doesn't know what it means.

*Grabs a coke and some popcorn, and waits for the next round* :lol: :lol: :lol:

Come on guys, seriously, lets knock it off here, this is getting really pathetic. Zenrich, everyone has their own opinion, so shut up if you don't agree. You have some serious online issues to work out bro. This is just a forum where people have discussions, so take it easy and get a life man. I have seen this happen on many forums I previously went to, and it is just plain retarded.

SCANDANAVIANS RULE!!!!!

Who is Zenrich? hmmmm, a question to be asked is something I will be doing to myself soon enough based on this topic posed one sentence before. hmmmmmmm. Everyone has their opinion, read the entire discussion before you enter bud, the opinion matter came up a long time ago. My opinion is just the best opinion in my opinion.

Scanda who? is that some kind of rollercoaster ride?