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Jester 01-01-2006 08:35 PM

Best Shredder Ever!
 
We've got one for Mikey, and we've got one for Raphie-boy. Now lets do ole' Tin Skin. Dou you like your Saki dark and human? Or dark and a squishy alien? Or a goofy yet somewhat lovable beligered supervillian?

I'm gonna go with OT Shredder...he and Krang are just brillient...and he's just the most wacky of the bunch...

Weapon X 01-01-2006 08:44 PM

Old Toon, it's almost the defiant Shredder, although less then stellar work of getting rid of the TMNT was shown on a weekly basis, he still tried and tried and tried some more. I also like the look of OT Shredder allot. He could be menacing and at times put TMNT and Krang in their place, he's just allot of fun. Ohh and James Avery's voice work too.

Jester 01-01-2006 08:46 PM

Indeed, Uncle Phil made Shredder...

Masked Ninja 01-02-2006 03:35 AM

I like Shredder human and EVIL.The best, I think, would be to take NT Shredder and make him human... so I voted Mirage as the closest thing.

OT Shredder.... I could never respect a villain with a purple cloak. *shrug*

Sewer Bull 01-02-2006 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja
OT Shredder.... I could never respect a villain with a purple cloak. *shrug*

Blast, you wretched reptile.:evil: James Avery prevails.

I'd say Mirage with a drop of OS. I don't like the movie incarnation.

And OAV Shredders (all five of them) simply kick ass.

Spitfire 01-02-2006 04:22 AM

I like the Archie Shredder. He was still just as evil as the Mirage Shredder and he didn't die as fast. Plus he didn't show up TOO often.

VaughnMichael 01-02-2006 07:38 AM

I voted for Archie to I love those comics
-Putrescent

Silent FOx 01-02-2006 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester
Indeed, Uncle Phil made Shredder...

indeed he did :D

remix17 01-02-2006 05:29 PM

Old Toon. I never bought the Archie Comics, and from what I've seen of the old school comics he wasn't my type of fella. New Toon Shredder is cool, and while any Shredder is better than NO Shredder (the horror! :() I gotta say that I prefer Old Toon Shredder better. He looked like an old school ninja, he didn't overdo his costume like the new one, and he had an actual personality. Rotten to the core, yes he was, but at least he had more than two emotions to switch inbetween.

Masked Ninja 01-02-2006 11:45 PM

Old Shredder was too whiny for me, and not intimidating at all. I think his quote in the poll is a prime example. I like the Shredder actually being someone the Turtles can fear, instead of someone who I swear lets the Turtles win.

Jester 01-03-2006 12:16 AM

I did forget a Shredder....Anime...:P

Mandi-chan 01-03-2006 04:01 AM

Sorry, but I prefer my villans to be intimidating and kick arse! New Toon all the way, followed by movie-verse, then old toon.

BlueSonnet 01-03-2006 07:24 AM

I think i'm going to have to go for the new toon. He seems to fair better when he doesn't have Krang's hand up his backside telling him what to do (figuratively speaking).

But having said that though, James Avery's voice in the old toon rocked.

Buslady 01-03-2006 10:01 AM

I liked the new toon Shreddy the best, cause he felt like he was a real threat.

In movie 1; I was with the guys laughing at the Shredder..the dude was laughable cause he took himself too damn seriously...it was funny!
"Maybe all that hardware's for making cole slaw?" :lol:

Shreddette 01-03-2006 04:17 PM

OT Shredder all the way.

Sure some of the episodes where the writers made him "whiny" as Masked Ninja put it put me off a bit but I always pushed that aside as idiot writers trying to make it funny. The heart and soul of Shredder is and always will be Evil, although what I liked about him most is that I got the feeling that deep down if he met the right chick she'd be one lucky woman. She'd have to be someone pretty strong and stellar, I think. Or maybe he has a soft spot for the occasional meek woman (on the outside only, perhaps at first glance). I think one mandatory trait about anyone who would want to be with him would have to not want kids. He's just not the fathering type. Which is perfect for me.

He's pretty mysterious, and I also think find excitement in not knowing whether or not he'll kiss me or kill me. I must be a closet masochist.

Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks. :evilgrin:

Maybe some people will think I am delusional there. Oh well. MINE.

Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.

remix17 01-03-2006 05:35 PM

I have met my frikkin' Shredder-fan twin.

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Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.
Honestly, I find it odd so many people are against the purple. Makes PEFRECT sense why Shredder would choose it out of all the other colors. Purple is, after all, the color of royalty and wisdom...and those who wear it in large amounts are said to sometimes suffer from delusions. :lol:

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Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks.
*cough*hetiesupApril*couchHACK

Shreddette 01-03-2006 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by remix17
*cough*hetiesupApril*couchHACK

Even as a kid I was disappointed that it only went that far. There was some serious sexual tension between those two sometimes. Sigh.

No wonder I now write erotic literature involving him. Time to set him free!

Zachatello00 01-03-2006 11:46 PM

Well, if you asked me yesterday, I would have said new Shredder. I love the story arc with him as an utrom, and they made him so lethal, so "doesn't take crap from brains" so "I don't need to rely on mutants" so "kill anything that gets in my way" so "bada$$". I love it. But then I spent all day today watching volume three of old school TMNT. There's just no school like the old school. I must agree with those who say "Uncle Phil made Shredder"

Oh, and as for the movie, I always breathe like Darth Vader during the scene where he comes in and address the foot ninjas near the beginning. lol I half expect him to have a red lightsaber when he meets the TMNT on the roof.

Shreddette 01-04-2006 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00
There's just no school like the old school. I must agree with those who say "Uncle Phil made Shredder"

Yeah! w00t! :D

Sewer Bull 01-04-2006 03:08 AM

I demand a pic of NM Shredder. Can't remind him.

Anarky 01-04-2006 03:17 AM

That's the best image I could come up with.


Sewer Bull 01-04-2006 03:32 AM

Oh yeah... now I remember...

*shrugs*

Jester 01-04-2006 12:19 PM

http://www.mikeystmnt.com/images/scr...nm/dasEvil.jpg
This is a villian collage from Mikey's. It looks to have been done by Tokka. Shredder can be seen in the upper left.

Sage Ninja 01-04-2006 02:40 PM

I choose Classic toon Shedder because he was both amusing and on some levels very convincing. He was evil but in a fun way that you just loved!! Also he had the greatest personality, he was just so rotten and ill-tempered, he didn't have a nice thing to say about anything or any one. And some of his evil doing was sometimes really...um...evil! Like his poisening April, or locking April in an air tight safe. Trying to dissovleve Michaelangelo, throughing Baxter into the portal with out a second thought, ect. All these where pretty menacing deeds and could have been played up that way if the writters had made a bigger deal out of them.

Oh and I just loved the partnership between Krang and him that was just gold! Krang and him played off each other so well, they where like peanutbutter and jelly. I think Classic toon Shredder is the only character on that show that could survive with his own show (well maybe with Krang init too).

But you know a better quote in the poll for Old toon Shedder would have been "Not even close, tonight I dine on turtle soup" that was a bad ass line and was a classic! Maybe the poll could be changed to this?

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Originally Posted by Shreddette
OT Shredder all the way.

Sure some of the episodes where the writers made him "whiny" as Masked Ninja put it put me off a bit but I always pushed that aside as idiot writers trying to make it funny. The heart and soul of Shredder is and always will be Evil, although what I liked about him most is that I got the feeling that deep down if he met the right chick she'd be one lucky woman. She'd have to be someone pretty strong and stellar, I think. Or maybe he has a soft spot for the occasional meek woman (on the outside only, perhaps at first glance). I think one mandatory trait about anyone who would want to be with him would have to not want kids. He's just not the fathering type. Which is perfect for me.

He's pretty mysterious, and I also think find excitement in not knowing whether or not he'll kiss me or kill me. I must be a closet masochist.

Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks. :evilgrin:

Maybe some people will think I am delusional there. Oh well. MINE.

Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.

Wow, you make some really good points, looks like you like to analise and dissected as much as I do LOL. I actually agree with you on that!!

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Even as a kid I was disappointed that it only went that far. There was some serious sexual tension between those two sometimes. Sigh.
wow...now that you mentioned it you are right:o There was some kind of sexual tension between those two. Shedder kidnapped and tyed up April and swung her around on his shoulder more times than I can count. He couldn't keep his hands off of her, the little pervert. And if you think about it they are very similar characters, there both egotistical, selfish cows LMAO:lol: :lol:

Big Lob 01-04-2006 03:25 PM

Gotta go with everyone else. OT Shredder all the way. I love the episodes after the initial five where Shredder is on his own without Krang's technology, and only had his wits to rely on. In the Incredible Shrinking Turtles, he beats all the turtles on his own at the docks. That was pretty cool to rewatch. The voice acting is second to none. Often times, voice actors go under-appreciated, so its nice to see Uncle Phil getting props. And finally, his costume and look rocked. A shame that version of him never got a great figure to match.

Mobius One 01-04-2006 04:31 PM

I loved the Shredder from the first movie. He was just so badass. Also, I thought that it was pretty cool how he only had a blade gaunlet thing on one hand, instead of two. I guess the first movie was where that originated because the new toon Shredder is the same.

Dragnskull 01-04-2006 08:27 PM

if you could, id like some info on these different types.

i know of the oldschool shredder (who doesnt?)
i know of the movie shredder
i know of the new school shredder
i know of the original TMNT comic shredder (mirage)

but i know not of the archi or the NM versions...i never read the comics as a kid (wasnt a comic kid, more of a cartoon and videogames kid) and i cant recall shredder even being in the NM...

and what did they mean on thef irs tpost "movies-remind you of another movie villan?"

i dont thinkt he shredder reminded me of any other badguy other than, the shredder...
can you please show me the rest of them?


anyways, i liked hte movie shredder, just because i like everything about the old movies, since i could see everyone in RL

*edit* just sawt he pic of the NM shredder....wow...how evernewb...

Jester 01-04-2006 11:13 PM

Yeah NM Shredder was in the 5 part pilot, and not much more. To be honnest I'm not sure how much he a part he played in NT:TNM cause I've only seen the pilot, and edited at that.

Archie Shredder...well...think Old Toon Shredder if he was actually a force to be reconed with. Archie Shredder was what OT Shredder if he wasn't such a baby, and oddly enough, he still had some consept of honor (PM me for the whole story, or read the TMNT Adventures stuff on the official site, www.ninjaturtles.com)

Turtle Dove 01-05-2006 02:21 AM

THe old Toon Shredder was too funny to hate him-we all loved him. The new Shredder was not afraid to kill the turtles and ....well I vote for old toon Shredder

Sage Ninja 01-05-2006 02:42 AM

Some one commented that classic toon Shredder seemed like he "let" the turtles win all the time. Well i think Shedder was good villan who would have been succsusful except that he was a victim of the company he assocaited him self with **coughBebopandRocksteadycough**. Half the time he failed because they screwed him up. That and he was usaully to arroagant which led to him failing.

VaughnMichael 01-05-2006 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja
Some one commented that classic toon Shredder seemed like he "let" the turtles win all the time. Well i think Shedder was good villan who would have been succsusful except that he was a victim of the company he assocaited him self with **coughBebopandRocksteadycough**. Half the time he failed because they screwed him up. That and he was usaully to arroagant which led to him failing.

either that or they wanted old toon shredder to be like cobra commander....

Serp 01-05-2006 10:09 AM

hmmm can't decide between movie Shredder or NT Shredder.


Ot Shredder was good for the lighthearted feeling for the old toon.


I don't really think there is a bad version of the SHredder.

The New Toon Version is definatly the most meanicing of versions.

just can't choose,

I think i'll vote for the New Toon SHredder.

Shredder 01-07-2006 01:39 AM

Well, I have to comment on a topic like this! ;) My vote goes to the OT Shredder (no surprise, there). Great voice, cool outfit, likeable personality- just a great, fun character all around. It didn't even matter that he wasn't all that intimidating most of the time (although he has his badass moments, too)- he was the best character in the show. I also really like his interactions with Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady- tons of funny moments. Gotta love the old show. :D

The anime OVA Shredder (see avatar) is great, too, although obviously more of a parody. I do love the OVAs, though, and wish they made more...

I'm not as familiar with the other versions, although I've seen the movies and thought he came off as a pretty generic "bad guy" there. The comic and NT Shredders also sound more like he's made to be a typical "villain" character, but I haven't read/seen enough to judge.

Shreddette 01-07-2006 01:57 AM

I thought I saw metal reflecting onto the walls in here. Hi, Shredder!

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Originally Posted by Turtle Dove
THe old Toon Shredder was too funny to hate him-we all loved him. The new Shredder was not afraid to kill the turtles and ....well I vote for old toon Shredder

Yeah.
Seeing the word Shredder and "hate him" in the same sentence perplexes me.

Seurat 01-07-2006 12:06 PM

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OT Shred-head all the way. Why? Let's look at all the Shredders:

Movies: Yeah, he was scary. Yeah, he mutated into Super Shredder in movie 2 (And, oddly enough, so did his armor). But he doesn't have the technology the other Shredders have. If there was a war between all the Shredders, Movie Shred would the first one down.

New Toon: Hard to fear a foot-tall brain-squid-thing. No need to call the Turtles; just get an exterminator. But you gotta give him props for coming back from the "dead" repeatedly.

Next Mutation: Venus beat him with some hypnotism. That's all. No more Shredder. Need I say more?

Comic Shredders: Uh... I didn't follow the comics that much. Sorry!

Old Toon: Most heavily armed. Giant mobile base with freaky eyeball cool enough to give this forum its name. Old school villain sense of style. And the only Shredder who hasn't been gotten rid of permanently.

Sewer Bull 01-07-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shredder
The anime OVA Shredder (see avatar) is great, too, although obviously more of a parody. I do love the OVAs, though, and wish they made more...

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8...hredder6zu.jpg

Look at the Drome, people. LOOK AT THE DROME!

No, it hasn't shrunk, it's still at its normal size :o

Dark Devil Shredder is better and more powerful than all of the other Shredder incarnations combined together. It's sad he was the dumberst one either - Donatello defeated him within 2 minutes. :dead:

remix17 01-07-2006 02:52 PM

Where would one purchase the TMNT animes?

Ra 01-07-2006 07:29 PM

*shrugs* Probably on e-bay or somewhere. Maybe download them *shifty eyes*

I had to vote for New Toon Shredder because...well, I feel he's one of the more deadlier Shredders out there. My ideal Shred-head however would be new toon combind with old toon. A very deadly villain with some very witty quotes :P Also, I would've liked it if NS Shredder was human, but I guess you can't have everything

remix17 01-07-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra
Also, I would've liked it if NS Shredder was human, but I guess you can't have everything

Well, it was either Laird get his head-slicing scene or us get our human Shredder. :roll:

Masked Ninja 01-07-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seurat
And the only Shredder who hasn't been gotten rid of permanently.

Probably because the OT depended on him as a villain. They tried Dregg... ew... But it sure wasn't like the Turtles were trying to stop him once and for all.

I do enjoy OT Shredder for his humor and the way he and Krang blunder about. It's classic, and I loved it. But if we're talking "which Shredder would I cry and cower and beg for my life if he was standing in front of me?"... the new show delivers. I'm not the biggest fan of OT Shredder's costume (I think it would improve markedly if that cape were maroon or blue) but the movie Shredder's was even sillier-looking.


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