New Ep Discussion: "Outbreak"
 

Greetings all,

Unfortunately I've come down with a really nasty cold, so this week's teaser is going to be rather short.

We saw weeks before how this strange 'muck' from the faked Alien invasion ended up making its way down into the sewers. Now we get to see the results of this.

IS this going to be the debut of the infamous rumored "GameraDon"? If so, how long is this going to affect him, both physically and emotionally? What will his family do in reaction to what happens?

And if this Isn't the infamous mutation, then How Does this episode interrelate to the past episodes concerning our favorite mutant family? And what of the Foot who decimated their Lair? Are the PDs or even Baxter make an appearance in this?

Well, as I always say....

STAY TUNED!

Why do they only have two TVs in a building with over 400 people...

I missed the first half of the show, so if anyone can give the lowdown/quotes, I'll put them up in the poll...

The Donny mutation was definitely set up...
Finally we saw how Bishop came to who and what he is. No wonder he is so cranky all the time. His skin was literally crawling and he gets a new body every now and again. SO weird.
This eppy felt kinda short or something, it was a lot of info to get.
Didn't that cockaroach look like someone? The garbage man? or is that just me?

It was the electrician from the beginning of the episode.

*types as it snows at her house* Good episode. Made up for the one I missed last week.....:roll: Loved Raph's "Indiana Jones" refrence to bugs. That slayed me. :lol: :P

Yeah I always love when poor Raph has to face off with bugs and things such as that. pretty funny!
I thought the electrician was probably who that was but I couldn't remember his face too well after the fact. I will have to watch my tape.

Dah...overslept. I saw the VERY end. I did see Donnie get hit by that bug, and even though I didn't see any of the episode, I think it is safe to assume that this is the start for whatever will happen in the 100th episode when he mutates some more. Also, whats the deal with Bishop that you were talking about, Tinuvielsdreams?

It was the Minnetonka Mutant.

Yes, but he had been the electrician before he mutated. When he first showed up he growled something about the splice he was about to work on before the mutants attacked.

I didn't have high expectations for this one, but I was surprised with my satisfaction. Here's the points I liked:

1) Bishop's background/motive. Sure, he's creepy and unethical to the point of evil... but at least we know his reason for doing what he does. I wonder if the aliens' experiments on him are part of what caused his longevity... as Bishop wouldn't have had the technology to "alter" himself until his normal lifespan would have run out.

2) Brotherly banter. The Turtles were just kinda hanging out in the sewers and interacting naturally. :D

3) Leo's part was very laid-back! This seemed to be more of a Raph epsiode, with Don sharing a little bit of the spotlight.

4) FINALLY we see why Don is probably going to get Gamera-fied and the others aren't... it's not contact with the ooze on the outside so much...they've all had that. Don got a nice little slash, and that's probably where this is gonna enter his system. And five episodes for them to build up to his mutation? Now THAT's the TMNT we know and love!

Notes:

> Animation was up to par. Nothing absolutely stupendous, but nothing jumped out as really bad to me. Raph's first kick in the fight is the only thing I can pick out. For a second I was wondering if magic was involved or something. But no, just a slightly-too-big flash indicating the impact. Truly nothing to complain about.

> I miss Leatherhead. And I wonder how Casey is figuring into this. If the Turtles are avoiding their human friends, that's understandable. After all, Karai found and contacted April... the Turtles probably don't want to create more trouble than necessary for them.

> Kinda cool how this was all scifi, but because the Turtles were fighting hand to... erm, leg? ...it had more of the happiness of gritty street fights.

My quote for the episode:

"Mikey talks, and we don't call him intelligent!" -Raph

Finally, a quote! Thanks Masked Ninja :)

Very very VERY cool episode. I love stuff that go bump in the night. I guess the strength of the show is NOT in it's character design, but I can deal with it.

You know, I don't think we know what's really up with Bishop. How is he able to survive for this long? Wasn't he alive since the civil war? Where'd he get the technology to transfer his mind into another body for so long? Remember the episode where Bishop was impaled by a hook? He's definitely not 100% human cause he walked away from that.

Anyone thought it was funny how scared Stockman was in the sewers? The guy's afraid of being eaten... He's a freaking robot for crying-out-loud. I doubt the monsters find him very tasty. He's way more heavily armed compared to the soldiers.

^ Oh yeah... that reminds me of a point I forgot to make. Did anyone else think that was sick how Bishop's body essentially melted when he was zapped out of it? :dead:

War of 1812 Bishop = http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../whobethis.jpg *snicker* Free glomp to anyone who knows who that is. X3 Lemme play. I used to want to be a history teacher. ^^

I don't know why, but I love interaction between the bad guys. For the viewers it's like "Hey, we root for the good guys, so now we get to spy for them and see what the bad guys are up to." XD

It's also great to see interaction between all four turtles again. *sighs happily* Though in reference to the bedrooms, I'm a little confused. Do the turtles have that entire castle, or just the lower part? I'd assumed it was the lower, but I could be wrong. Poor Mikey with a small room, but behave yourself and let the oldest have the biggest room. XD That's the way things should be.

I liked the action in this eppy too, though I agree with Raph. Bugs. Why'd it have to be bugs. *shudders* Ick. With the ticks I was all 'Ew...Ticks. I'm NEVER going in the woods again!' *scrambles to hide in a bug free corner under a newspaper*

And Yay! Gamera Donnie is now just a few episodes away! Four or five more? *takes a deep breath and reapeats over and over "I can wait that long." I think the animators really went out of the way to show Donnie getting nicked by that bug. It was like slow motion or something, and then the 'omgz my leg!' I'm not complaining though.

As for the preview for next week. Is April's Uncle Auggie really Sean Connery? o_o

There have been a lot of posts since you asked this but if they all didn't clear it up then... at the beginning of the ep. it showed Bishop from what seemed like the civil war maybe. (See stege-chan pic lol)
Bishop was abducted by aliens and they did their experimenting and whatever they did to him gave him the ability to live a for a long time but it seems like he has to switchbodies every now and again because he starts to mutate further? (What I think, not positive) or something like that . It also made him very disturbed and obssessed with stopping alien invaders. I would be too though. Anyway in the present day part of the eppy it kinda looked like he had worms crawling uder his skin, and then Stockman who is still around of course helped him switch bodies. His mind went to a new bishop clone and his old one melted literally! Yeah Masked Ninja Ewww and that was pretty gross he just melted into a skeleton. They like to test how far they can go huh.
There definitely are some things that need to be clarified. Where did bishop get the tech. How long must it have taken and why did he last so long without it?


It is so refreshing to have everyone togther. I laughed when that bug came at Leo and he just slides to the side. He is like super Leo...lol
I think gamera don will be something, I can"t believe he didn't test that sting or something though, just cause it would be a don thing to do.

Killer I can't wait to see Don go all Gamera on everyone! Awesome episode, I love the bug juice. And the cockaroach guy didn't look to bad. The toy version looked awful. Baxter in a new body finially! Well soon maybe. I wonder how Bishop got like that. I men the aliens sure but he's been alive for a looong time O_O

Great episode! We finally know Bishop's origin.... mostly. It was cool in a very creepy way when they gave him a new body and his old body decomposed to a skeleton. I wonder what Baxter's new body will look like. Maybe a clone of how he looked in the very early episodes of season 1? All those mutants were awesome. Next week theres mutant lizards!:D It looks like that hunter that went after LeatherHead might be back. I really hope LeatherHead returns as well. It would be sweet if this all led up to a big battle of the TMNT VS Bishop at his base.

Edit: The Foot Ninja are still looking for the turtles!

Yay! more snow..........cancelling all my pre existing plans so I got to see the show!


I was hiding practically the whole episode!

It was REALLY nasty to see Bishop's old body melt likre that. But it was really nice to see more of his origin. Guy's been crazy since the Battle of New Orleans? That's alot of years of crazy...

AND...


As if the show's writers and artists had slipped into my darkest nightmares.....


The turtles had to fight GIANT COCKROACHES. :tcouch: Cockroaches scare the bajeezus out of me and I am embarassed to say that I could not watch that part of the show. Damned irrational phobias

I haven't read all the posts yet, so forgive me if I repeat something someone else has said..

Well... that was... interesting. Very interesting.

I kind of figured that since the toy of that mutant/guy was based on that little boy who won the contest (a dubious honor), that the character model would look like him also. (But now I think the contest was too late for them to have based the design on him; I don't know when it was held, but they do character designs long before we see them on screen) But it almost wasn't worth having the contest, especially since action figure purists will want the toy to look like the guy in the show... *shrug* It makes the little boy happy, I guess, and I'm pretty sure the market will cater to children before collectors. It's just kinda weird.

Wow, Bishop was a soldier in the Civil War... that at least explains how old he is. And he was abducted by aliens... explains his animosity toward them (I wonder if he was traumatized by General Blanque's men... humans, but aliens also? Dunno, maybe their ancestors were abducted from Earth by aliens too.. *shrug*)

I was a bit surprised by the body melting/skeleton evaporating imagery... kind of strong for television. (Kind of reminds me of Rasputin's transformation at the beginning of "Anastasia", if you've seen it... I expect that for cinema animation, but not TV so much)

Re the alien ooze: Bishop's in troouuubllle.....

Don getting stung/grazed... I forsee much weirdness. :p

I thought it was funny they retained the ticks' nature... they tend to hang on high things, and drop down onto their prey from above.

I remember we were kind of pouting because they didn't mention Raph's bug-phobia in "Time Travails", but I'm glad they did here, at least.

The electricians made the off-hand comments of giant Crocodiles and Turtles in the sewers... :lol:

Heh. explore the character designer's website... he does tend to think up the most bizarre monsters. They're not my thing at all, but I do think he's done a great job with the "normal" cast (er, as opposed to the huge, slavering beasts), and adapting characters from the comics. The depressing thing is, he's younger than me by two years, and I'm still just doing character design for a hobby, and he's up on national television.. *sniffle*

That's kinda what I assumed. This may actually be the first time he's been "transferred" to a new body, since he didn't seem to know exactly how it was going to work.

Of course it's highly unlikely that they didn't have any cuts or anything last time they got dipped in the stuff, but hey... I'm all for a more obvious segway. :)

Nice episode. We got some insight into Bishop's past, someforshadowing of future events, and we meet a new enemy for the TMNT at the end...MUTA PIGEON! More powerfull than the Triceratons, more craftier than Bishop, more evil than the Shredder.

Muta Pigeon is coming.

Uhhh Aska? That was the War of 1812. :embarass: I'll post my thought later, gotta run right now.

Great episode! I get scared to easily and the scenes when the sewer worker and the guy at the resturant getting attacked were freaky. I am so going to have nightmares!!! I hope Don finds a way to change them back before he eventually transforms. It sucks that the guys have tostart over on a new lair.Even though its just a toon, I'd hate to experience losing my home and personal belongings. Poor guys.:cry: . ecMike making the crack that Leo should have the smallest room since all he does is meditate and be boring was funny. The preview for next weeks episode was not very informative but interesting. Was the "outdoorsey guy" April's uncle August? It sure looked like him. Hmmm giant talking lizards. Do you think they'd dare intro Mona Lisa or Mondo Gecko:evilgrin: .....Nah!

oh man I always hope to see some glimmer of mondo geko! Can you imagine what that would be like he and Mikey as a duo in the new toon...:lol:

Its Was A Good Episode. I Didn't Expect Much From This Episode But It Sure Delivered. Cool To See The Minnetonka Mutant, He Actually Fit Well In The Ep. This Episode Seemed Well Paced And I'm Glad Its A Continuation Next Week.

The Fight Scenes Were Animated Very Good. I Just Wish We Got Almost Perfect Animation On A Consistent Bases. Also I'd Rather Have Seen This Type Of Animation In Last Weeks Episode (which Was Animated Horribly), When Leo Fought Karia Instead Of It Against Insects.

LOL... I am an artist, not a historian... (at least not a historian of real world events ;)) This was my "advanced reasoning" that any American war taking place in the 1800's must therefore be the Civil War. :p Now I have to go do research. :p

(The Battle of the Alamo isn't included in my reasoning, of course... I do live in the same city, after all, I'm not allowed to forget that... and Texas was a republic at the time :p)

Heh, 1861 for the Civil War? Well, I was only off by 50 years.. :lol:

Best part of the episode was that someone finally referenced LEATHERHEAD. Sure we didn't get to see him but at least the electrician referenced him. That means at least the writers haven't completely forgotten his existence. This brings me hope that we'll get to see him before fast forward happens.

No, I mean his mutant bugs and monsters just don't really do much for me. They don't come off as scary, creepy or cool. They just feels so rushed and lame.

And people, don't take my civil war comment seriously, cause I thought he was around during one of the older episodes. Do you remember a flash back with Bishop as he was standing behind a president (NOT the present day one) in the alien episode. Or was it some other episode. I know there was an episode like that where we find out Bishop's much older than we though. This episode goes back even further.

It was a fun episode...for the next month, I have to tape every episode. grrrr...stop life of mine. But I will not discuss it because it is off-topic.

great episode
 

Hmm where to start I love how much Baxter there was in this episode since we haven't seen him in some time!
Loved the Minitonka mutant tie-in but it's odd how it was someone else and not the little boy it was supposed to be.....I bet he was ticked off....I honestly think it was better as the worker it was really allot more creepy....infact this entire episode was pretty nasty and creepy!
I loved Bishops body change man Baxter is really freakin' smart I can't wait till we see Baxter get his new human body....am I the only one who thinks it's a bit silly that he wants on though? I mean that robot body is allot bigger and better than his human body could ever be well I guess not though if he makes himself one like Bishops....btw am I the only one who's freaked out by Bishops skin crawling? it sure made mine crawl lol.....
I also loved the sewer repair man talking about alligators in the sewers I think perhaps maybe it's a hint that we will be seeing Leatherhead again soon I hope anyway...
Hmm I must have missed how Don got infected can anyone tell me when it happened?
I only saw Raph get slimed did Don also?
Also not that this is a bad thing mind you but did anyone else feel as if they were watching the old tmnt?
oo Also we learned that Mike lost all his comic books! & Don lost all the things he had I hope they can find at least some of the things they had worked on when and if they go back...
Oh also so the Foots about....um so I guess Karai didn't learn her lesson? Or perhaps there just doing other things? What do you guys think?
And on a final note MAN! That poor guy who got killed by the pigeon shesh! & it's nice to have good old Leo back!
Over all I liked this episode allot A+
-Putrescent

They all were slimed in the prior Alien Invasion one... the difference here is one of the mutants slashed Don in the leg. Perhaps the contaminated stuff getting in his blood is what's different.

very odd I some how missed that! Also was the intro the same as lat weeks? I missed the opening.
thanks!
-Putrescent

Periods are good. ...Well, the punctuation kind.
Learn them and you too will be a master! :shredder:

I'm just typing thoughts...not sentences thats why there are dot dot dots and it's not very nice and very off topic Ryona...I'm sorry but punctuation is the least of my worries on a Internet message board.:(

:roll:

We don't need the grammar lessons or anymore petting arguing... Please Stay on topic.

*shrug* I think they're just plain WEIRD. The Underground mutants, Savante's roaches, some of the aliens, the spider-mutate-man, these latest ones, and some of the critters on his website: they're all so weird. I'm not good with monsters, and mine would probably come out a whole lot worse than that, so I don't think I'm qualified to argue his designs one way or the other. :goofygri:

Sorry. It's just funny to read without periods.
Anyway, there's alot of people who skip out on periods, so I know it's not just you. So don't think I'm picking on you. I poke at people sometimes when they write a not so perfect post. Nothing against you. I'm just a bitch sometimes.



Oh, and today's episode was good. Me likes it.

And yes, it did feel like an episode from the original series.

Atleast we know Bishop's been around way before the Civil War began.
And I can see now that Bishop was Human, course we already know he's inhuman due to him having inhuman abilities.

Looks like we have a new mutant who's half man and roach. A lot of old show reference there when you get in contact with Mutagen and an animal you become one in all.

I missed 2 minutes of the episode, so I'm not sure if Donny is infected by the mutagen or not.

Ended weirdly with a mutant bird killing a guy. Hard to tell what will happen in next week's episode.

yea totally how I felt about todays episode to it was fun :)
I guess I must have as well or it happend really fast and Don must not have said anything about it. *shruggs*
Yes I soo thought that was wierd to it was a cool ending but I was waiting for it to come back but it was over very strange. lol

Hence my evil plan has come to fruition. :D Go off Aska, go off and give us wonderful historical tidbits on the War of 1812 and how it ties into the TMNT universe. Give us your scientific reasoning and other...things. Cause me? I's just feelin' lazeh. :lol:

Well here are my thoughts on the episode. Another good to be sure a little better than last week. I'm liking this nice and calm Leo. It's so much better, I practically feel the release of tension (hopes Karai finds the same peace someday).

I felt really bad for the electric worker. Grr...another victim of Bishop's schemes. :evil: I hope we haven't seen the last of him (or T95871) they really need to help those guys. :(

And we FINALLY get to see why Don turns into the Gamera.

I think the best part though is understanding just where exactly Bishop is coming from. Wow that was so cool how he was abducted during the War of 1812. Guess he got his revenge as that was the EXACT same alien. And now we see a little more fully explained just how Bishop is more than just a man. I'm thinking he IS part alien now. That little skit in the beginning with him in the beginning all but said it.

so how do you know this kid is designing the characters? I could have sworn it was Michael Dooney? but hey you never know lol.
I thought it was strange that if he is the designer of the characters there not shown or even mentioned on his site at all? Interesting though....

Baxter told Bishop that his new body was... what did he say... stronger and faster? His old body was already super strong and fast! He's probably waaay better than Shredder now (with the exception of Shredder's Exodus and SAINW suits).

Edit: I also wondered if the transformation would go wrong and Bishop's soul would be stuck inside the machine, hehe. Lucky for Bishop it worked out good.

Edit 2: Since he can transport his soul into any body, and Bishop has the ability to create souless bodies, and he has turtle and rat DNA in a tube somewhere..... He could make himself a turtle or rat body.