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darthsmozers 12-26-2002 01:13 PM

Fans of the Archie TMNT series, PLEASE READ
 
Hi all!
I am looking for any fans of the TMNT Adventures comic to discuss a few things with. If any of you lurk around here, please reply so I know its not a wasted effort :)

Thank you!

MzTheInsomniac 12-26-2002 01:23 PM

i have the first two issues of the series im not much of a fan though, i do like the mutanimals though

darthsmozers 12-26-2002 01:32 PM

Thanks for replying :)

The Mutanimals WERE great...too bad they were killed off :(

Apple Cat 12-26-2002 01:38 PM

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ChibiKasai 12-26-2002 01:48 PM

::raises hand:: TMNTA fan here! My fav version actually.
Unfortunately, I lost most of my issues years ago... all I have left are #48, 50, 36, and the one where they meet Archie. Oh, and #46, but it's in crap condition. :(
Anyhow, what did you want to discuss?

MzTheInsomniac 12-26-2002 01:52 PM

i wish they weren't killed off but oh well, it would be neat if they revived them somehow

Greed 12-26-2002 02:31 PM

I'm a big fan of the Archie Slash and the comics were cool to

Deepflame 12-26-2002 02:33 PM

Archie... roxxors, ehh?
Its my universe of choise, I guess.
So, whats the topic?

PWDESAI 12-26-2002 02:47 PM

if any of you can't get your grubby little hands on the archie tmnt :wink: I have scanned in the mini series and due to request from nickokapo i've decided to do the whole series until i get arrested :evilgrin:

Shellfox 12-26-2002 03:00 PM

Me Me, I love Archie TMNT, Ninjara is my Fav TMNT female to date.

Deepflame 12-26-2002 03:54 PM

Yeh! Go Ninjara!

Shellfox 12-26-2002 04:34 PM

And Future Mike and Leo, they never got enough page time. Granted I loved how they Just did F. Raph and Don, but they did need more of the others. And Mez, I wanted more Mez and her connection to Ninjara

Jephael 12-26-2002 05:16 PM

That was such an awesome series! BTW, if you'd like to read some TMNT Adventures fanfiction, please read mine.

darthsmozers 12-26-2002 06:21 PM

Thanks for replying everyone!

Anyways, I wanted to discuss a few things:

a) The Art: What was your favorite art period? Mine was those from around the "4 Horsemen/Mutanimals" Saga (around issue 38 I think?) through the end. Speaking of, does anyone know the name of this penciller and what other works he/she's done?

b) The Cancellation: Does anyone know if any formal ending was given to this series? After the last real issue, there were two issues called "The Early Years", and it ended there. Anything after that to conclude the adventures of the TMNTA characters? (And I don't mean the new Mirage series).

c) Who else loved the future stuff? Yknow, the future shark trilogy, the death of the mutanimals, the Cyber Turtles, etc?

d) Have any memorabilia ever been produced based on the likeness in the era I mentioned above, the art from 38 onward? I LOVED the look of the characters in those last 25 or 30 issues.

ChibiKasai 12-26-2002 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthsmozers

Anyways, I wanted to discuss a few things:

a) The Art: What was your favorite art period? Mine was those from around the "4 Horsemen/Mutanimals" Saga (around issue 38 I think?) through the end. Speaking of, does anyone know the name of this penciller and what other works he/she's done?

I think the artist you mean is Chris Allan. The only work of his I know of besides TMNTA, however, is issues #26-28 of "Knuckles The Echidna".
He's my fav turtle artist too. :D

Nickokapo 12-26-2002 09:06 PM

Hmmmmm...well i'm a big archie fan, but i haven't readed many of em so i couldn't really disscuss with you about em.
Tho that might change when pwdesai scans em (if i can get em before the comic police gets him and he gets busted :P ) but for now i'll pass since i wouldn't know what to say.
P.S: The mutanimals rock(ed :cry:)...gecko da man! :P

Shellfox 12-27-2002 08:20 AM

aside from the occasional toy and appearanece in Video games the Archie stuff didn't appear much from what I can remeber

Deathknight 12-27-2002 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWDESAI
if any of you can't get your grubby little hands on the archie tmnt :wink: I have scanned in the mini series and due to request from nickokapo i've decided to do the whole series until i get arrested :evilgrin:

You won't get arrested if you're caught, just fined up to $400,000 or something like that.

Karpo_007 12-27-2002 12:37 PM

I don't think it's illegal, atleast not enough to officials to care about it. They are old comics that are only sold as back issues.

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 12:42 PM

LOL, so anyone care to get back to my topic? :)

Jephael 12-27-2002 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthsmozers
c) Who else loved the future stuff? Yknow, the future shark trilogy, the death of the mutanimals, the Cyber Turtles, etc?

I loved the Future Turtles, especially with their cybernetic armour.

I thought the death of the Mutanimals though was really unneccesary. I mean to me it seems they really should've kept some of them (atleast 3) alive and have the remaining members avange the death of their fallen members.

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 01:08 PM

It WAS a fun story though :)
This series had so much potential if it was allowed to keep going. The art (Chris Allan?) jsut got better and better, and he even began pencilling the covers!!!

Doesn anyone have any of his TMNT art on your computer? Id love to have some for my desktop :)

ChibiKasai 12-27-2002 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by darthsmozers
Doesn anyone have any of his TMNT art on your computer? Id love to have some for my desktop :)

Go here for some covers: http://www.thetechnodrome.com/comics...e/archie.shtml
I especially recommend #50 & 58 for some awesome group shots.

Man, I missed the whole Cyber Turtles thing! And the Moon Eyes saga! :cry: Crap...I desperately need back issues

Karpo_007 12-27-2002 01:35 PM

Well I have one thing I have to say about archie. The cartoon was made to bring TMNT to a younger audience. The first season was geat but after that it got boring. Archie on the other hand had good story lines and usually good art. It was made for the same purpose as the cartoon, but it did it much better.

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 01:42 PM

The archie series DID have some more "adult" themes...lots of death, adult issues, etc.

Shellfox 12-27-2002 01:58 PM

A good load of the Archies seemed to revolve around Religion, which can't be said for a lot of books, geared toward kids. Exile, intollerance, Death be radation, the evil of White settelers, Fighting in relgions, mass genacide give archie credit they did a lot of contoversial stuff, it just looked like good clean fun. Of all the stuff Archie has done TMNT was probly the best, I don't read anything else they do aside from sonic, but how it was geared its impressive. Sonic use to be till Sega flexed its control, then we couldn't kill anyone or have sonic do anything uncool (like be in a relation ship, hell the guy has like 3 girls all after him, screw the rules deal with them, although Amys just a little kinky a 8 year old in a 12 year old body after a 16 year old or something). Any way given that, and how they draw the sonic cast most of the time, I sorts hope Archie doesn't do the TMNT again, they'd look like crap.

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 02:06 PM

Unless of course the series was restarted where it left off. I mean, so many plots could have evolved....the future TMNT's were always a hit, and so many cool stories could have been continued :(

Karpo_007 12-27-2002 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthsmozers
The archie series DID have some more "adult" themes...lots of death, adult issues, etc.

Nevertheless the children were the target audience. And thats what I said, it was much better than the cartoon.

ChibiKasai 12-27-2002 02:19 PM

Even as a kid, I knew Archie was getting away with *alot*. I loved being able to read about a TMNT that wasn't complete corn, and didn't ever talk down to children.
One of my fav "can't belive it" moments was in issue 56, when Candy looks into Null's eyes and sees the Mutanimals in Hell. I'd never seen anything like that in a "kid's" comic before or since.

(Another thing I learned from that issue: If the turtles think an enemy is human, they tend to pull their punches a bit. But as soon as they realize it's a robot, they will **** them up good. :D )

Karpo_007 12-27-2002 02:56 PM

If you like more serious TMNT, you should read the original one.

Shellfox 12-27-2002 07:35 PM

still love the regilgious overtones in the series, as far as I know no other TMNT series delt with that many religions that respectfully.

Archie was the perfect blend of Comidy and Buttt kick action

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 08:44 PM

Yeah, in terms of religions we had the sons of silence who almost worshipped the stone, we had the whole deal wth the dragon and ninjara and japan and all of that, then the religion that came along with tatoo and that 4-armed tiger, up in the mountains. We also had the four horsemen whcih is sort of a religious notion, then the stuff with that blue lady with the tail, yknow, that two issue storyline, then the moon eyes foxes, etc. lots of various religious sects, and the open-minded TMNT went along for the entire ride. WOW!

Shellfox 12-27-2002 09:16 PM

Not to metion Al Falcon and the White Stone, Verminator X and his worshiping Tech, Jagwar and his father, the Path of the 4 winds, and the Souith ammerican natives and the Dinos and Asspects of the Fox Religion.

Shame they never did much with Naga, he was only in one issue but I like Ninjaras brother. Still pissed they never ansewered weather Raph was going to ask her to marry him right before the Black Hole Triligoy began.

Still I do feel a bit cheated by the Moon Eyes saga, yeah Raph was pissed off a lot, well give him a break His best freinds were just killed horribly and it was his future selfs fault. Hard to believe that Ninjara would choose to live with the wolves, she left the island for adventure, hard to believe that she'd settle down with a possible dangerously mutated Wolf who she had little in common with, in a suculded place, where she was the out sider. Yeah I knew she had to leave Rpah at some point but I all ways thought I'd be because her past as a theif caught up to her, and she choose to go back to it, that or go back to the island

darthsmozers 12-27-2002 09:29 PM

Wow I better go back and re-read those. About a year ago I found the back issues of the moon eyes saga, so its not to fresh in my mind....I know Raph was with a fox lady in the cyber turtles storyline, but i always thought that was Ninjara who changed her name???

Shellfox 12-28-2002 06:18 AM

No thats Mezcal, its rumored that shes a decendant of Ninjara and the Wolf (the face is fox but the Tail isn't)

darthsmozers 12-28-2002 10:11 AM

then Ouch for Raph...

ChibiKasai 12-28-2002 12:15 PM

I sooo need to find these issues. I obviously missed *alot*.

Bebop 12-28-2002 04:26 PM

Wow I don't remember anything that went on in this comics apparently. I've read all 72 of them too. I haven't opened them since issue 72 came out so many years ago. I might have to go get out the collection and sit down for a few hours. Also, what's this talk of another new TMNT comic. Are they supposed to come out with a new series that is not by Mirage?

Karpo_007 12-28-2002 04:35 PM

Yeah, there will be a new comic based on the cartoon, and it is targeted towards younger audience... That's kind of disapinting, I was hoping for something like Ultimate Spider-Man, not a "second archie series".

Jephael 12-28-2002 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChibiKasai
(Another thing I learned from that issue: If the turtles think an enemy is human, they tend to pull their punches a bit. But as soon as they realize it's a robot, they will **** them up good. :D )

That was always one of the best scenes -

ROBOT 1: "We're more than just robots!"
ROBOT 2: "We are thanosoids, dead flesh joined with the most powerful cybernetic polyzerkonium circuitry!"
FUTURE DON: "IE, they're fancy robots. Lets waste em!"


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