Personal Turtles
 

I've been thinking(don't laugh)
It seems to me that many TMNT fans have a personal version of them
Some mix the different versions,like the new show mixed with some old show
characters.I've seen Venus mixed with new show,old show and mirage comics

And of course some add original characters too

What i want to know is:What is YOUR version of the TMNT world?
What character should be in what series?
And is there something you you leave out from your fave series/stories?

Its an interesting observation.

I suppose that at a certian level of fandom it can become, for lack of a better comparison (and not trying to start any horrible debates), kinda like a religion...and (at least in my experience) you wanna personalize what you believe in. (and I am not saying I suscribe to the church of the TMNT :P)

myself, like most other fanfic writers, create my own reality for the turtle. I prefer the mirage/new show turtles so they tend to be more along those lines...I do not like all the science fictiony stuff so mostly all my stories are urbanized...and I do not like turtles fallling in love with people, so I leave them as loners only really relying on eachother....

Of course, that does not mean I do not appreciate the cannon stuff ;)

personally my favorite turtles are the ones from the original 80s/90s cartoons. my 2nd favorite versions of them are the ones from the movies (except number 3, lol) :P :lol:

The only reason I was kinda disappointed in the worlds in the movies was because they didn't take such a sci-fi approach to it as the original cartoons did. The movie avoided a lot of the inexplicable things from the cartoon like Bebop and Rocksteady altogether, the foot soldiers as robots, Krang, Dimension X, The Mousers, Baxter, Rat King, etc etc etc etc... and the list goes on.

They shoulda made the movies more like the original cartoon IMHO, but then again I still love the movies for what they are and I will always love them because they were well made regardless of their flaws. But the original cartoon will always be my favorite interpretation of the green ninja boys. :D

TMNT Cartoon:
Leonardo: Uptight(at times) Unofficial Leader.
Donatello: Nerdy, technological genius.
Raphael: Sarcastic, Smart-ass.
Michelangelo: High as a kite, surfer bum.
April: TV Reporter, Boobs.
Splinter: Old Guy.
Shredder: Egotistical failure.
Krang: Wad of gum.
Bebop: Idiot.
Rocksteady: Moron.
Foot soldiers: Robots.

I'd say old toon wins, but seriously I would choose the Old Toon, as my favorite for being what made me a TMNT fan and for being what it was/is, pure unadulterated fun. I would keep all the same characters in the Old Toon, except some of the really lame ones, that's you Turtelli and maybe change some characters, just a little.

The movies are a close second, I like what they did with the first, having the Mirage with a little toon thing they did. Doing it exactly like the toon just seems weird, a 98 min episode?, I mean we have TMNT 2 for that.

Many TMNT fans also create their own 5#turtle
some cool,some...not so cool..Tigerfog's Renoir is the best imho

anyone else have one? please share:D

oh..and does anyone have Aska in "their version"?....i do:P

I for one (like Peter Laird) am totally against the whole "fifth turtle" concept. I find it rediculous and unnecessary. I mean, if a fan has to stoop to making a fifth turtle, it's like saying that none of the original four are good enough to rank up as fave turtle. Plus, seeing any fifth turtles in any TMNT universe just kinda kills the uniqueness that the four bros got.

I don't need to make a fifth turtle. I like Leo plenty, thank you very much.


With that said, as for how I invision the TMNT universe in my mind is like this...

Basicly, Leo would be mostly like his Mirage version but with a little from the new series. A strong and sturdy leader who takes no crap and gets the job done. The absolute defenition of a true ninja.

Don would be mainly like his new series version with some original series, along with the cool, savvy traits from his version in TMNT II: The Secret of the Ooze.

Raph would be mostly like his version from the original series with just some very slight edgeness from the new series. Raph would be competetive with Leo in a friendly way, and much more coopertive like his version in the original series.

Mikey would be mostly like his original series version with some new series and a bit of Mirage in him. He'd still be light-hearted and fun-loving, but able to be serious when necessary.

Splinter would be mainly like he is in the new series. April would be a mix of original series and new series. Casey would be mainly like his Mirage version, and Shredder would be a mix between Mirage and new series (Basicly like New series, but human).

As for the world they live in, it would be mostly like Mirage volume 1 with a mix of the Original series, new series, and movies. A gritty, dark world with some sci-fi flavor (but not too much), and some room for humour and excitment.

For the record, I made a 5th Turtle because it was a choice, not because I felt 4 TMNT were not enough. You can love it or hate it, I don't care. Call it what you want. I call it expression.

Anyway, I relate to the Old toon TMNT as well. They just make you feel good if you were ever actually around them.

As much as I really do appreciate Tigerfog's work, I find Renoir the second best "5th turtle" in my book. Ben's the most convincing "5th guy" ever. EVER. His creation has the whole interesting personality and all that stuff.

*bows before Ben*

I can not agree more!! Benvenuto IS the fifth turtle :D :P

Thanks guys, but for the sake of others, please keep me or any other 5th Turtle out of the thread. Some just do not accept or understand the idea.

We don't need another 'Toddler Turtle' thread...

Well, those "some" are not with us anymore, methinks. And don't sweat it - we are talking about our "personal turtles" here, the TMNT universes tailored to our expectations. And thanks to the internet acquaintanceship with you Ben, a white-bandaned turtle has become a valid part of my own "TMNT world" ever since, I don't care if anyone appreciates that or not.

Good point.

Just taking precaution again, that's all. I don't want to be the reason for any forthcoming negativity, you know?

EDIT: Sorry for my off-topicness.

I think my personal turtles would be like my action figure play, a general mixing of all I liked most about TMNT, old toon, new toon, movies, and comics. I even throw in my NT:TNM figures. I even intergrated Benny in...the right way of course...(I tend to always retred, and as much as I liked Oroku Nagi as the "True" Shredder, and Ben as his student/son, I rehashed it all and used Benny's origin as penned by his creator. :P) although I need to make a future version of Benvenuto. Any Ideas what he should wear? Donnie's got his lab coat, Leo his kimino, Raphie his hat and eye patch, Mikey has a leather jacket and Skull cap, but what should Benny wear?

i have to agree with Ryona I don't like the idea of a 5th turtle either...

sry benvenuto lol... :P ;)

Meh, no worries.

The one thing I'm proud of is that I tried to be as fair as possible with Benvenuto.

So far, so good.:)

I am sure that none of these people who created a fifth turtle want to compel you to like the 5th turtle idea, but I don't like it, if it's talked bad about it. So please don't tell me how much I like the original characters.
I don't want to say with my own created character that my character is the best.
It's just FUN, just like it's fun for some people to analyse one character in the depth as if it is a real living person.

But to come back to topping: I have no personal turtles. I like them how they are :-D

I don't like the idea of a fifth turtle.... in true turtle cannon. But fan-stuff is totally fair game. It's fun to see people throw their turtles into the old video game graphics, really creative. But if I saw Benvenuto on the new show I'd be like "WTF mate". Then... well I'd probably applaud him for getting him that far. Getting past Peter Laird with a fifth turtle concept, ha good luck with that. That guy would go apesh*t on your ass.


PS I love Peter Laird and meant no disrespect, but if you read his letter columns in the turtle comics, wow he would like kick Mr. T's ass even.

you know we still love u ben :P 8)

Well...I myself Go by the new toon/mirage comics
Mixing in some from the old toon/Archie comics like Mona Lisa,Slash,Ninjara

Oh,and im also working on a #5 turtle...a female one(don't shoot!)
its for a "tmnt and other strangeness" rpg im playing with my friends

As for my own character,i've made a foot hitman(badguys get more fun)
Want to hear more about created characters if anyone wants to share... :D

I'm not into the idea of a 5th idea, but i do love Benvenuto's sigs/avatars! lol. My version would be mostly from the from the original version, where we would still use Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and also Leatherhead and Rat King. Some characters would be mixed with the movies/new cartoon. The main changes would be:

Raphael would still have his humour but would have an aggressive, dark streak to him. I would have the Leo/Raph rivalry involved too.

Splinter from the original cartoon is perfect, and i wouldn't change a thing.

Shredder would keep his humour from the 80s cartoon, but keep him looking intimidating as in 87 season.

Well. I say a fifth turtle for the comics, movies or cartoon would be fun but not realistisc. I rather have the four that are. It gives the four element effect I love so mutch.

How ever, I enjoy fans creating their own turtles. It´s just for fun, right?
Like Ben, Mask and Renoir. I´m sure theres allot more but I can´t recall them at the moment.
(Even I have one. A female. She is still on the drawing board for more study and developement.)

I grew up during the old toons and I loved them in that version, hens it was the only version I knew about. Now that I know a little more about the original I would say...
Ceap Shredder from the 80´s,
mixing Splinter 80´s with the first movie,
Leo with his spiritual Splinter jr self,
Mikey totaly 80´s,
Don 80´s mixing with new toon,
Raph mix his 80´s sarcastic humor with new toon rage and
foot soldiers in human form. althou I miss the robots.
Mousers from the 80´s
80´s April. (I love the yellow jumpsuit)
And I only know Casey from the movies.

Well that´s what I think...(Don´t hit me...):P

well i would like to hear about your female turtle Jivra(kjære nabo..lol)...since im making one myself......
like whats her origin?good or bad?

Cool that you´r interested.

Well...Here is what I have so far:
First of all she is not a mutant but a hybrid. She was created in a lab that got bombd by terorists or something.
A cleaner that worked around the lab saved her and moved to Missisippi. He named the hybrid Amphitrite.
Few years later a bad guy from New york found out about Amphy´s existens and took her and her ´father´ to New york.
They blackmaled her to help them eliminate some of theyr foes, dressed in an wery uncomfortable suit (looking like Shredder).
She was traped in that suit for five years before she comes across with the Ninja turtles.

So at first she is bad by blackmail, but becomes good when she knows the truth.

Again...She is still on the drawing board and I might change some details later.
Now I feel like Rp with her...crap...:lol:

Cool...saw the pic with the armour(if its her on deviant?)
now i have to rethink my idea..it was really close to yours


...oh,and Norway beats Sweden in Grand Prix..or something..

the female turtle i'm making is part of four other "turtles":
Slash-a update for the new show-timeline
"venus"-not Venus but a somewhat same with a better backstory
"zack"-the #5 turtle,human teen with a costume/powersuit
turtle spirit-a ghost/spirit old and wise

...thats the idea....

Good for Norway. Congrats.

Yes it was her on deviant. Next to Don. I plan that he is the first one to descover that she is female. (have a funny idea of how he discovers it, bwahaha) I have a body study of her in scraps. Put it up today.

Sorry for being so similar to yours.
I like your idea. It could work very well.

Looking forvard to hear more.

For a 13 year old you drew very cool, Jivra. I saw your deviant art "Pizza time for Mikey".

By the way, I am sure that all the selfmade fifth turtles were made just for fun. I made one myself, too and I wouldn't know what could be wrong with it...

:tlol: I don´t know where you got the idea of me being 13 years old. I´m 24. :tlol:
OOOh, wait. Now I get it. I was 13 or so when I drew it. haha. didn´t get that at first.

Anyway. Glad you like "pizzatime for mikey". I have more in stock.