The Batman
 

Have only seen a few episdoes of this series. I think we all know its no BTAS, but what are your thoughts on the show? I heard season 2 is the best so far...

Season two's definatly worth it, everything else is'nt even close to Loonatics:|

I hate it.

They went and took great characters like the Joker, riddler and Mr. Freeze and ruined them (for gods sake freeze is just a crimanal now)

and its way to action toy focused for my taste, I feel bad for the new generation that are growing up with this crap.

Hows season 3 compared to season 1 and 2?

Season Two has darker storylines, close to Batman: TAS in many respects, they were given more freedom to try different angles, "Meltdown" ties up the finale of the first season, it's dark throughout and contains no upswing. "Strange Minds" is a great showcase for Dr. Hugo Strange, "Riddled" gives us a chilling new version of The Riddler who actually manages to make the character his own without surpassing Gorshin or Glover's interpretations. And the finale is a perfectly solid introduction episode for James Gordon

Season three changes the theme song, Commisioner Gordon is completly wasted, the GPD characters from the first two seasons pretty much vanish, they made the error of introducing Batgirl (whose character and story fizzed out due to lack of attention from the writers) because Titans was still airing at the time, therfore nullifying Batman's year one status that some people were actually liking as it developed.

Pick up The Batman vs Dracula and you'll get a glimpse of what could have been if Batman had remained solo, it's arguably the highlight of the series so far.

Thanks for the great info guys!! I've actually seen the batman vs dracula movie, and i very much enjoyed it...a lot more than the episodes I've seen. Anyone have any other highlight episodes they'd like to point out? Also, is it pretty much true that season 3 isnt very good?

I dug the Bane episode, It made me find the character more interesting than in the original animated series.

I'd recommend watching "Gotham's Ultimate Criminal Mastermind", it's not on the level of the last two finales, but it's a solo Batman episode with no flipping Batgirl and expansion on Strange's character

Next season sees the debut of Robin, Harley Quinn, and Paul Dini as a writer.

I have to admit, this series is (to quote a film critic) a Mixed Bat.

I HATE HATE HATE what they did to Mr. Freeze, and ESPECIALLY the Joker. I could get into a rambling manifesto about how lame the Joker is.

That said, there are some pretty decent episodes. I really did like the episode where Joker becomes Batman, and that would have been a wonderful concept in the original series as well. I liked the fact Firefly was doing corporate sabotage in his premiere episode, and some of the darker storylines are pretty good.

I still think Batgirl, designwise and concept wise is a caucasian late teens version of Jade from Jackie Chan Adventures. Had Bats remained solo, the show would have been a bit better.

And of course, the one thing that bothers me is that the plots seem pretty cliched in certain episodes. It almost reminds me of The Mighty Heroes (e-mail me if you don't know) how they always introduce one one shot villain an episode, and the entire show is basically just fighting that character in a semi-formulaic sense.

But, I'm raising my opinion of the show to dreadful to pretty good, just not the 90's series.

The executive producer of The Batman just spilled this during an interview.

Season Four may be the most fan-oriented season yet. It's no secret that we're introducing Robin to the series; we're also going to meet Nightwing in an episode, in a very interesting way. Penguin will attempt to form his own version of an "injustice gang," and among other villains we'll be meeting Killer Moth, the Matt Hagen version of Clayface, Black Mask, and Harley Quinn (in an episode penned by none other than Harley's creator, Paul Dini). We'll also discover more about Riddler's past, and Batman will finally team up with a superhero from outside the 'Detective Comics' universe. Yes, it's a JLA member -- but I won't say who, you know I hate spoilers. :-)"



Black Mask, is, again, probably the boldest decision they've ever made, if it leads to him torturing and shooting Batgirl, I'm for it. But Nightwing?

Well, we are talking about the same idiot who turned Braniac Attacks into a tribute to Richard Donner

I'll keep this short.

It sucks. Batman Begins was one of the best movies I've ever seen, but "Teh Batman!" sucks. Period.

Cyndi Lauper sucks harder.
I wonder how theyre gonna explain Nightwing....if its supposed to be year 2....

My exact thoughts of this Batman Rehash. Batman:TAS was one of the few shows that both me and my dad enjoyed as I grew up. because adults and kids could enjoy the mix of great storytelling and action. The stories were intellegent and the characters had emotion. Now The Batman just makes sure it features each character who has his own toy.

Funny people mention how this is too action figure commercial esque. I mean, it is, but its been stated that Batman Beyond, one of the greatest takes on a Bat franchise, was just made to sell toys. Same with stuff that people grew up on, and pop culture mainstays, I.e. He Man, Thundercats, GI Joe, etc.,etc.,etc..

It's no mistake that certain cartoons now are being used to make toys again, and indeed, The Batman is no different, it has it's merits despite making many mistakes at the same time, but it's core is merchandising.

What matters more is, now that we're selling toys again, do we add a mythology to it to keep viewers hooked? I think it's our obligation to give the toy catalouge some merit to justify plugging them, Transformers is one such commerical that is now up there with Doctor Who and the DCAU as having the most broad mythologys in the industry, the same with M.A.S.K, Thundercats, and GI Joe.

And a special mention must go to British based toyline turned American cartoon Mighty Max, a show so criminally unappreciated despite a healthy fourty episodes, it got cancelled.

The mention of Mighty Max brings tears to my eyes...That DVD will never be produced.

I've seen a couple of eps of this show and didn't think it was that bad, it just didn't impress me enough to stick with it.

However, if they're going to throw Harley Quinn into the mix then I may consider trying to watch it again.

Every show has to sell something or they will never gain any profit. Batman Beyond may have been created for the purpose of selling toys but they didnt let that interfere with the stories.

Unlike the Batman were not introduced to a different gadget each week that ends up at target or wallmart as a different Batman variation.


The one thing that bugs me the most about this show besides the horrible stories is the voice acting, in to many cases I feel that the actors are trying to do there version of what has appeared before them and not making it there own. Such as poison ivy, when I was watching her first episode it was just boring alone hearing her talk, it was filled with no emotion.

I cant wait to see how there going to screw up the black mask, seeing as how I have worked with this character myself for a while now in my fan film.

Pssssh, the dude who does the voice of Bruce/Batman is awesome, who, before this, did the voice of Eduardo for Extreme Ghostbusters, Louis from Resident Evil 4, Rikimaru from the Tenchu games, Spider-Man in the Spider-Man Unlimited show, Kyle Katarn from the STar Wars games (a few anyway). Kids got talent.

'tuche. :lol:

he's one of the few I can stand along with alfred, its mostaly the villians that suck ass.
(the riddler was alright...but what the hell is up with the joker?)

Hated the Riddler. Marylin MAnson Riddler? BLEHHH.

I mean, I will say that I've started to not hate the show as much, and sometimes it's pretty good... but honestly, i'd rather see that weird ass 1980's show I read about where Adam West and Burt ward did voices on.

I just think that if they didn't completely change the Joker and not added an annoying version of BatGirl (never too crazy about her anyway) it wouldn't be as bad. Sadly, it's one of the Best things on Kid's WB. How I hate them.

Well, He said they were going to introduce him in an interesting way. It may be one of those "into the future" episodes.

If "interesting way" means that, then kiss this show's credibility goodbye.

Interesting may be Nightwing kissing a crowbar to someone's face.

I'd watch it.

Over, and over again.