The Daily Show PWNS anti-gaming Senators.
 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0LenbSKbn...page=3&t=t&f=b

This is absoultely brilliant.

This video put me in pain from laughing so hard. And the sad part is that it's true. They just have no idea about video games, and what they're really for.

Haha god they get Congress so good all the time. I love that show.

Is anyone else as terrified as I am at the fact that those are the people essentailly running our country?

Yeah, and now these people are are trying to discredit gaming from its "art" status so it can be subjected to censorship. Any form of art (politically correct or not) is protected under the constitution, but if it isn't art, its free to censorship. That's what they're after.

These old fu*ks scare me.

Movies are art too but their subject to censorship because it's also a form of entertainment. That's what video games are as well. And that's exactly how video game censorship will happen.

They can do what they want. I'll be 18 soon and if more games get AO ratings then whatever I can buy whatever the hell I want.

And this is why I hate YouTube, after one minute and seventeen seconds, Youtube decided that I heard enough and the audio disappeared. Shortly thereafter, YouTube thought that I had seen enough and cut the video at one minute and twentyfive seconds... Yay!

Is there a downloadable version of this video around?

It's pry you're hardware or connection... streaming video takes a big hit on your hardware.

No one cares, doesn't have anything to do with the thread.

Anyways, The Daily Show is hilarious and this is just another example. This sh*t is just going to keep on keeping on, no matter what we do. The bills that do pass always get whooped on later down the road. Something will get through eventually, but it won't get any worse than movies or anything.

Whatever, Canada doesn't have this sh*t.

Depends on the way you look at it. I could just go "do u hav dl link 4 i lol" or I could tell you why I want a downloadable version of this video. And while I might not be the biggest gamer known to mankind or a big expert, I'm interested in the world of videogames. Especially the censorship madness. But hey, why think when you can yell?

Short: I want to see that video and I can't. I need help.

On the contrary, why speak(type) when you can think *and* yell?

Anywho, it's pry on the hardware side. My old comptuer hated anything streaming. To sum it all up, all of the expert senators were made fools of by use of their own words.

Well, I can't see the video as I'm at work... But my question is... Why do we HAVE to have such violent video games. I see both sides that we should be free to have them and not be cencored... but the fact that we feel we MUST have them as violent as possible makes no sense to me.

Jo makes a good point. GTA so far is the most ****ed up game I've seen. I was watching my friend play it, and in the game he picks up a hooker, has sex with her, then brutally kills her. I was really disgusted by that.

Another time another friend of mine is playing that game and going around beating and stomping innocent bystanders to death, and he's giggling like a bloody moron while he's pointing and saying to me "Look! I got 'em good!", meanwhile I'm getting up to leave.

Oh, what joy. :roll:

the question these people are raising isn't if we should have them, it's about controlling who can have them.

And guess what? that should be a PARENTS decision. It's not Rockstars fault if Suzie Homemaker buys her 8 year old a game with an M rating, or even a T rating for that matter.

Why do we need to have such violent Anime? Tv. shows? Movies? Books?

I think it's funny that we're having this discussion on a messageboard about the TMNT, where in the first issue of the comics Leonardo slices off Shredders head.

GTA is tame compared to The Warriors (and tons of other games). You can grab a guy by one side of his head and smash the other into a wall, complete with sick thud noise and blood splattering out. The leader of The Warriors' special move is that he grabs a guy by both ears, smashes the back of his head against the ground twice and then slaps him across the face.

At least in GTA the character models are kinda bad so to me it seems more cartoonish but in Warriors it's more realistic.

(Not that I'm against the violence, I love both games, just adding to the conversation)

You haven't seen many games then. There is no "brutal" murder in GTA. I hardly call a rocking car, with absolutely no sexual noises, a disgusting display of sexuality. I also don't think beating a horrible looking model, which bears only a slight resembelence to a human being, with a baseball bat, which either misses or completely goes through the victim, can be constituted as "brutal".

Then there's just the plain fact that GTA is so far from a realistic game that it's mind blowing!

Firstly the people look like dolls, secondly the gunplay is just horrible. It's so far from reality that it's less realistic than an episode of Bugs Bunny where Donald Duck shoots his bill off. Like when Sylvester ***** the hammer on the gun before pointing it at a worm. That doesn't even happen in GTA. You see a flashing light, you run over it, you hold down a trigger. Is that teaching a kid how to use a gun? Which one is a more realistic simulation?

Any kid who plays GTA and relates it to real life has mental issues. There's no other way around it. They were either subjected to some form of abuse, or have a severely unhinged mind.

The only reason GTA gets so much abused is because of the popularity of it. God of War is faaaar more violent and realistic than GTA, yet I've never heard God of War mentioned ever. God of War contants countless scenes of graphic beheadings, spilled organs, nudity, and even a sex mini-game, with sound effects mind you.

It angers me beyond words when people uneducated in this medium come in and throw sh*t around like it means something. We have these games because they're fun. The good ones anyways. People seem to have this pre-conceived notion that anything graphically violent is automatically eaten up by us "gamers". Anyone ever heard of the game Manhunt? Yeah, piece of complete sh*t. One of the most violent games ever made, but no one cares!

A game isn't good because it's violent, but sometimes violence adds to the overall tone and theme of the game. You've got movies like Hostel coming out, which depict some of the most ridiculous and disgusting things anyone has ever seem, but these pieces of sh*t get acclaim for being the most disturbing.

Meanwhile, we have this game, where everything looks like a god damn cartoon, getting ass rammed because some high up f*ck nuts like Hilary Clinton are trying to further their political career.

It just furthers the ridiculous claim that people who play games are disguting freaks with twisted minds and an appetite for blood and gore. Not only is it completely and utterly wrong, but it's f*cking insulting.

Yeah, I don't know much games, and I haven't seen much, but from what I have seen of GTA, I still think it goes a little too far. Like, from what I understand, the object of the game is to become a successful druglord. Already right there, that's not cool.

I know people play games to escape reality. But escaping reality to play as a drug dealer? *shakes her head*

I have played the game, and I do like it, but only because I like to drive around in the city. I'm not interested with any of the "missions".

And I'm not totally against violence, but I don't support meaningless, sadistic violence.

And I know that most gamers are not disgusting creeps, but some people do get a little carried away like I've seen with a few friends.

There are 7 GTA games, and none of them revolve around trying to become a druglord.

In all but 3, you play as a no name thug just out for some cash and respect. In Vice City you play as a dude who's gotten himself into some trouble and needs to pull himself back out. In San Andreas you play as a thug who left your home town, only to return and discover some "punk ass bitches" have started "frontin'" on your home turf. Then in Liberty City Stories, you play as a mobster who's fallen from grace, and wants to work his way back up to a made man, almost solely because he wants his moms respect.

I'm not trying to defend GTA games or anything, because I'm not exactly a fan, but the negative vibe surrounding them is so blown out of proportion. The majority of them play like a regular mob movie. Scarface, The Godfather, whatever. Would anyone come out and say the violence in mob movies are meaningless, or sadistic? I doubt it. A lot of them are considered classics.

People really need to play these games fully before just outright basing an opinion on what little real information they have about them. If there's one thing GTA does well, it's tell a story, and they're on par with movies based on the same setting.

What makes GTA games any different from those movies? Is it because it's interactive? I guess, but people who take this sh*t seriously really do have problems that extend beyond playing violent games.

And BTW, Ryona. If you really do have friends who get "carried away" playing GTA, get some new ones, because they're either 6 years old, or can't possibly have an IQ over 10.

Yeah, I've thought the same thing a number of times. :lol:


Anyway, you make good points. So I understand and respect where you're coming from.

u_u Dumbasses. I don't play GTA, it looks like sh*t; but I like Simpsons Hit and Run, lol. It's just.. funny to hit people. >.> I'm not "wealthy" but I'm still not gonna get the idea that because it was in the Simpsons, means I'm gonna take the car out and hit a bunch of people.
I mean, there's "bad stuff" in pretty much every (non-educational) video game. I'm not gonna decide to go catch the stove on fire because my Sim did it and it was sorta funny.

=/

Well, my intention wasn't to question who should purchase the game (ie, parents buyingfor they're kids... though I doubt most parents are smart enough NOT to buy the game. They don't care about the violence if it means that their kid will be popular if they own it).

It was just a question. Because I don't understand why we must make games so violent and why they are enjoyable. I'm not saying I've never played one. I'm just voicing a small lingering thought that's been in my mind for awhile now. I don't think we NEED games that are overly violent. We don't, really. No one NEEDS violence. I think it shows alot about our society and life today, actually. I did my college term paper about this, in fact.

Anyhow... it was simply a wonder on my part, didn't mean to take away from the actual conversation.

Sorry, but a game about running through a meadow of flowers to get to a certain goal isn't my idea of a video game.

Video games have thrived on violence. There are varying degrees of violence, ranging from jumping on an enemy, to blowing someone's face off. That's what video games are all about. While there is violence, there is also a hint of eye-hand coordination, critical thinking, and problem-solving skills. Many people miss the point that video games require a lot of brain use. The presentation of these skills are rather extreme, but any other presentation would be boring. People love violence. It's a part of our brain that longs for sex and total destruction. People may deny it, and say they don't like violence, but they are only convincing themselves as such. You don't need to be afraid of violence, but you shouldn't make a habit of inflicting such violence on anyone.

After all, they're just video games. They're not real. It's the mental stability and parental upbringing that give rise to actions such as shooting up schools and blowing up cars. Don't stereotype and think everyone has this kind of mentality.

People should just play whatever the **** they want, as long as they can handle it.

I certainly never stereotyped. Nor was I debating anyone's mentality, nor their ability to 'take' a certain kind of game.

My simple statement was that I don't think we need violence as a form of entertainment. People got along for more years than not with a better state of living (violence-wise) and had alot of fun without it.

I don't wish to debate this, as it will never be a won conversation by anyone, because it's going to be taken to heart by way too many people. I was merely speaking a thought and didn't go into statistics.


...But I can. So can everyone. So let's not let one person's little wonder grow out of control by over-reacting as we as a society tend to do.

So what kind of entertainment are you suggesting? Something where it all works out in the end? If I wanted that, I'd watch Barney and Friends all day. I'd go play My Little Pony for GBA.

Entertainment varies for everyone, and the reason why violence is such a good form of entertainment for many people is because it's interesting. It's something that doesn't happen every day. Why do you think there's so much information and analysis on wars? Because they don't happen all that often. It's interesting for many people. Would you watch a show about a guy who goes to work, comes home, makes dinner, and goes to bed? No. You want some spice, something to mix things up a bit. You want conflict, jealousy, hatred, revenge. Something that'll spark your attention. Things of that nature aren't too far from violence. So in a weird kind of way, everyone wants some form of violence, whether it's physical or mental. So we don't need violence? That depends on your way of thinking.

That's just my reasoning. Take it with a grain of salt or not.

Not at all. 'Not working out in the end' and 'violence' are not synonymous.

I, personally... find that kinda sad.


*shrugs* But hey... that's only me.

And I find that kind of insulting, so we're even.

I'll keep that in mind for when you find something interesting, I'll be sure to call it sad.

And I find you a total snob.

*shrugs* But hey... that's only me.


People who get entertainment out of FPSs or worse aren't "sad" or "bad people" so long as they have the intelligence to differentiate reality from make-believe.

So I guess anybody who enjoys a horror movie is sad and pathetic. As is anybody who enjoys heavy metal.

Oh yeah, and all you people who read comic books about ninjas and fighting and violence, you're all total sad losers.

:roll:

Okay, this is turning into a fight. I guess its beyond the capacity of humans to all agree to accept different each other's different point of views, aka, the problem with society today.

Locked.

You know what I find funny here?

The fact that I made perfectly clear I wasn't putting anyone down, nor their interests. I even said I played the games I spoke of. I love video games. And I love horror movies.

I was very specific when I said I was merely voiceing a question. I was not preaching to anyone about anything.

So, the reactions here, which were totally rash and, reading them, I can see were written without even reading what I wrote... well... they made me laugh.

Because I was so clear to say that I enjoy the same game you all do. I was clear in that I wasn't bashing them, yet I was jumped upon. I was calm, un-argumentative, and made clear in nearly EVERY post I made to say it was just a question that nagged me. Not an opinion. Not a fact. Not an argument.

And yet...

I was highly disappointed by the immaturity shown with the responses. (A snob? Ha!) They're video games. People can love them and have questions about the content without being 'biased (ha!!)'. (By the way, I love FPS, and I never said people were 'sad' who liked them. Don't take my words out of context.)

This never warranted so many rash and bad feelings... and waaaay more thought than it ever deserved. My fault for assuming posting a simple thought would be met by similar consideration and thought or just simply be ignored.

Such a tizzy for one girl's simple thought!

If you don't have anything positive to say, keep your damn comments to yourself, and stay out of this section.

There. I'm done. I'll be sure to ignore you next time.

...Saying I love FPS, horror movies and video games is negative?? ...Wow.

Making sure to be calm and concise and explain how I wasn't meaning anything in a bad way is wrong?

Bizarro world.

(Plus why stay out of this section? I love games)

*sigh* I tried. Why can't we all just drop it. This was supposed to be a thread about laughing at how stupid and dense out governments officials are, not a thread where everybody flames each other.