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Toonami Tom 07-28-2006 07:06 PM

Official New Episode discussion: "Future Shellshock"
 
Tomorrow morning is the premier of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Fast Forward! This topic is to talk about the first episode "Future Shellshock." The turtles and Splinter are sent into the future to the year 2105.

Gary 07-28-2006 07:12 PM

What? When did this happen!?

VaughnMichael 07-28-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary
What? When did this happen!?

*smacks forhead* ok Iris your right lol

gobo 07-28-2006 07:40 PM

Initial impressions from clips 1 & 2 suggest that we have a lot of not-so-good animation to look forward to. But, the plots seem as excellent as they have ever been. They start clip 1 with a Terminator reference for crying out loud! What with the nude time-travel and Raph saying "You said come with you if we want to live", where else could their inspiration have come from? This is a small sign that we haven't totally been sold-out.

syk_skillz 07-28-2006 07:54 PM

LOL! "I pitty the fool"
Atleast the new outfits is given a meaning. I'll have to get use to the new animation. Just 12 more hours left until the priemer.

Ninja Tiptup 07-28-2006 08:05 PM

The animation hasn't always been fantastic but seriously... What on earth was that?

And I just knew I'd get a Spider-Man Unlimited vibe from this. Already I'm dissapointed and worried.

But the Tribunal arc on DVD will rock for sure and the CGI movie looks VERY promising. So at worst I can always just right this one off in the end. It will still probably be the best cartoon on Saturday mornings (not that it's hard).

And wouldn't you know it? Pre-empted by Baseball. But this time it doesn't even show up. Looks like I may have to wait for the re-airing to catch this one. I hate FOX...

Raph's Girl 07-28-2006 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Tiptup
And wouldn't you know it? Pre-empted by Baseball. But this time it doesn't even show up. Looks like I may have to wait for the re-airing to catch this one. I hate FOX...

Yea.. don't ya just hate living on the west coast? Yeesh... Stupid Baseball *mumbles*

Supposadly Future Shell Shocked will air next week along with the 2nd ep. Either way it'll re-air in September.

Ah well...I'll be downloading it either way. :P

gobo 07-28-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by syk_skillz
LOL! "I pity the fool"

Yeah, I forgot to mention that one. I just wanted my post to be high up in the thread. :embarass: It's sometimes better to jump the gun than to wait until people have commented a topic to death (which I expect will happen by noon tomorrow).
Oh! Did I need to mention the theme song as one of the show's defects? I imagine the video accompanying it could possibly be pretty interesting though...

Leo's_Girl06 07-28-2006 09:14 PM

is April and Casey going to be in this? As you see I am way behind in my research.

Jester 07-28-2006 09:19 PM

Nope, the only characters from the "original" (gosh that feels odd...but hey 4kids is calling it the "retro" TMNT) show are the guys and Splinter. The Jones we get is Cody, April and Casey's great grandson.

CyberCubed 07-28-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo's_Girl06
is April and Casey going to be in this? As you see I am way behind in my research.

April and Casey are long dead by that time, (they'd have to be like 125 to still be alive), so don't count on it.

iris 07-28-2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent
*smacks forhead* ok Iris your right lol

That's what I like to hear, baby. :lol: :lol:

Gary 07-28-2006 09:49 PM

I was making fun of the recent thread starters clueless about FF. I'm waking up before 10, watching it and recording it, then rewatching it with my girlfriend later.

Spitfire 07-28-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo
Initial impressions from clips 1 & 2 suggest that we have a lot of not-so-good animation to look forward to. But, the plots seem as excellent as they have ever been. They start clip 1 with a Terminator reference for crying out loud! What with the nude time-travel and Raph saying "You said come with you if we want to live", where else could their inspiration have come from? This is a small sign that we haven't totally been sold-out.

That animation now looks like every other GAY show on 4kids. YAY

KROW 07-28-2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
That animation now looks like every other GAY show on 4kids. YAY

Gay means to be happeeee! :anime:

But, yeah, the animation looks so unpolished and very much unlike the quality it was before.

iris 07-28-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW
Gay means to be happeeee! :anime:

But, yeah, the animation looks so unpolished and very much unlike the quality it was before.

Does anyone know of these are primarily the same animators or maybe newbies? Would they be the same ones working on the Ninja Tribunal arc?

Aska_Badoura 07-28-2006 10:10 PM

The animation is fine. It's the stylization that's new, more simplified, and something to get used to. I'm gonna miss the slightly more detailed look, but I remember some of the design artists saying that it threw them for a loop, too, so I'm not sure whose idea it was, and why. I can see evidence of the animators struggling with it too (mostly on the Turtles), since it's not entirely consistent. I think we'll get used to it eventually, though. I'd rather not, but oh well, I'll live. :p

The whole aliens-walking-around-the-city thing is definitely reminding me of Volume 4. I'll be surprised if we don't see some other common elements.

I'll probably do a style comparison post here (or somewhere around here, anyway) after I get some stuff extracted from the new Flash at the 4Kids site, so I can blather away about stuff nobody cares about and feel like I've contributed something worthwhile. ;)

EDIT: (more defense for the animators :p) It's probably the new style that's weirding out the animators, and so they're not at their best. They're probably spending more time making sure the style is right than making sure the motion is right. It'll take them a bit to pull themselves together, I think. It's still Dong Woo working on it.

Masked Ninja 07-28-2006 11:05 PM

I don't have the internet speed for preview clips *sigh* I think I'll go and set the VCR on record, but hide in the room with the tiny TV, just in case it sucks too much to be seen watching it. ;)

I dunno... it could be OK. I really don't like the simplified look, but I'll be watching anyway. I love my weekly TMNT fix too much to give up just yet. But at the first sign of a female turtle... that's it. :P

Buslady 07-28-2006 11:23 PM

They changed animation studios.
If ya ask me...Raph would not kick up his leg like a Rockette and exclaim hopw his leg works again. Ugh...

Oh well, I'm gonna watch it....a @()#*$ baseball game better NOT get in the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheShowstoppa 07-29-2006 01:02 AM

Wait... why the hell would they change animation studios when the one they were with were doing a fine job? Fans couldn't have been happier with the way most of the season 4 episodes turned out. That doesn't make sense to me...

Must... E-mail... Dan... Must... Know if... this is true....

Because if it is, I sh*t on whoever's decision it was to move animation studios!

WAIT... SpaceLt. Dan would know, wouldn't he? Dude, if you read this... break the foreplay and tell us, is this the same animation studio that has been doing TMNT?

Aska_Badoura 07-29-2006 03:09 AM

I'm pretty sure it's still Dong Woo, and they're just struggling with the new style. It's not quite different enough to be otherwise, but I could be wrong. We'll have to see the credits when it airs.

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I dunno... it could be OK. I really don't like the simplified look, but I'll be watching anyway. I love my weekly TMNT fix too much to give up just yet.
Although, in the same way it was in the first four seasons, the animation, in practice, is looking slightly different than the model sheets. They had a lot of squared-off body parts in the oriignal model sheets that turned out to be a lot more rounded in the show, and it looks like the same thing's happening here. In these new clips, they didn't look quite as angular as the model sheets. I dunno; this'll be interesting, anyway.

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But at the first sign of a female turtle... that's it. :p
LOL, I'll try not to take that personally. ;)

Mandi-chan 07-29-2006 06:59 AM

I saw a tiny bit of one of those clips and was really disappointed with how crappy the animation looked.

It looked really cheap to me, and I hope to whatever god that wants to listen to me that "The Lost Season" isn't cheap looking too. I want "The Lost Season" to have the same animation from seasons 1-4, not this crap.

I may warm up to the new look when I get to see an actual ep, but I know I'm not going to love it.

At least we have the same writers, 4Kids can't screw up that part of the show.

PrometheusUFO 07-29-2006 07:58 AM

I have a FOX affilate that has aired the Saturday morning block an hour early for as long as I remember.. so I've already seen Fast Forward (at 9AM). And I didn't enjoy this particular episode all that much. :(

Anarchistguy 07-29-2006 08:13 AM

Oy...what the HELL have they done?

Stephen 07-29-2006 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PrometheusUFO
I have a FOX affilate that has aired the Saturday morning block an hour early for as long as I remember.. so I've already seen Fast Forward (at 9AM). And I didn't enjoy this particular episode all that much. :(

What happened in this episode?

gobo 07-29-2006 08:16 AM

Presenting more questions than they answer, but it's interesting enough.

syk_skillz 07-29-2006 08:17 AM

Well so far the new theme is crap and very cheesy even more then the old version. The show reminds me of Loonaticx which is very bad seeing that it has lost it originality now.

DAMN YOU 4KIDS!


The Beboop look alike made me smile for a minute but the chessyness makes me frown more

DAMN YOU 4KIDS!
WTF HAVE YOU DONE!

gobo 07-29-2006 08:25 AM

This is just an introduction, I'm sure. Better explanations will come in the future.

gobo 07-29-2006 08:30 AM

George Elliot McLain?? WHO??

agoaj 07-29-2006 08:31 AM

Who's George Elliot Mcclain?

syk_skillz 07-29-2006 08:32 AM

Wow that episode was complete BullSh*t.
The animation is horrid and I can already tell I'm going to hate Cody. And the robot *sigh*.

CyberCubed 07-29-2006 08:34 AM

This was MUCH better than the Season 4 opening.

"Future ShellShock" > "Cousin Sid" anyday.

Considering how crappy the first episode of Season 4 was, this was much better.

syk_skillz 07-29-2006 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo
George Elliot McLain?? WHO??

No idea I did a quick search but found nothing.

GK Punk 07-29-2006 08:34 AM

I'm making this the official topic for the new ep. Please try to keep all discussion regarding it in this thread :)

TerranigmaFreak 07-29-2006 08:34 AM

Cheesiness? Yes, it's a little bit cheesier, but it wasn't as horrific as I thought. I hate the character design, which is nothing new considering the character sucked in the original. The design for the new futuric NY wasn't bad at all. It manages to keep the spirit of the old show with something new. And what's this I hear about the turtles being dead and Cody bringing them to the future to save it? This episode was nothing like it at all. Not enough to fully judge it, but it definitely isn't like the doomsday you guys predicted. Yeah, I loved the little Bebop cameo they snuck in there. It shows that they're still keeping us old guys in mind.

Aztec General 07-29-2006 08:37 AM

Why? Why do they keep changing the time of this show? How in the world am I supposed to track it down when the time changes seemingly every week?

Katie 07-29-2006 08:38 AM

Well...It was interesting


What I liked:

They are gonna be able to use Vol. 4 stuff....if they choose to.
The big traffic accident they caused
and...The fight was pretty ok

What I didn't like:

They wrote Mikey even goofier. Poor guy.
The robot butler
The robot cop
Cody's voice
STILL don't like the theme song.

Now....I wonder who's gonna look after Klunk....and if they were sucked to the future by the time window/portal thingy...doesn't that mean that all the stuff Don invented stops in history at the moment they were sucked through...I guess since it exists, they WILL get sent back eventually.
AND What happened To Cody's Parents?..I want a family history.

What I don't want:

A bunch of sappiness and love/ girlfrind stories (don't like that stuff in the comics, don't want it here)
The crazy hijinks of the cop and butler chasing them around
Cody being trained.


I'm still going to give it a chance. This was one episode...and How many times did I shake my head at an episode last season :P

Mandi-chan 07-29-2006 08:40 AM

Well....I can say this much...I hate the new theme song and the cheap new animation.

But other than that it wasn't too bad.

Anyone notice the robed guys had the upside-down Foot symbol on their backs? (it looked a little modified though)

*groans* Mikey gets himself into another stupid "I need to be saved because I goof off too much" situation...god I'm so sick of him being the damsel in distress...It's annoying.

I liked Cody.

Revan 07-29-2006 08:43 AM

seems like there are a lot of upset fans but I didn't think "future shellshock" was all that bad at all. I actually liked it. I can tell they are trying to appeal to younger audience. people who are bashing fast forward due to it's "cheese factor" keep in mind, it's a cartoon... meant for a saturday morning audience (kids, hence the name 4kids). FF was much better than I expected. I was also glad they gave a reason for the leg and arm armour. The turtles have to wear this stuff to get around. If they had been wearing it for no real reason it would have been dumb.

tortugapower 07-29-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by agoaj
Who's George Elliot Mcclain?

He worked on the show (check the credits). He died recently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by syk_skillz
The Beboop look alike made me smile for a minute but the chessyness makes me frown more

It looks like there was another reference to the original show in the establishing shot of central park.

Spoiler:
there is a billboard with what looks like the technodrome in silhouette and a "TD"


I thought the show was ok, and this is sort of the set-up episode, so i have faith that they'll get better. I don't think the animation is bad, in fact it is the same studio (Dong Woo) who has been animating the turtles the whole time.


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