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ThirdMarioBro 10-19-2006 05:21 PM

Twilight Princess for GameCube (Not) Cancelled
 
This is thread worthy.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/19/ze...be-is-no-more/

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for Nintendo GameCube has been flushed. GameStop has taken it out of their computer systems, and other are doing the same.

Congradulations Nintendo, you just fu*ked your fans worse than Sony. Go to hell.

Gwg, Peanut, and Barkworm, I leave the floor to you.

*edit*

Insult to injury. GameCube component cables are incompatible with Wii.

gobo 10-19-2006 05:25 PM

Now, I'm less interested in that Wii than when I first saw it. That's just too much work for a damn video game. How can anyone veg out doing all that crap?

Dr. Doom 10-19-2006 05:26 PM

Wow, that's....wow.

Spitfire 10-19-2006 05:34 PM

So what? The GC died awhile ago no great tragedy here. This just gives everyone more of a reason to buy a Wii. You'd be a moron to buy a next gen game for a last gen system. Obviously they re-did the game to make it more next gen and I bet it wouldn't have worked cause the game contains crap you can only use a Wii Remote for or something.

With the crap Sony has been pulling Nintendo still looks like a saint and Microsoft is taking the torch and running with it.

Mecha Cow 10-19-2006 05:34 PM

That article is hardly any confirmation. However, since Nintendo is doing every. single. thing. wrong with this game, it would not surprise me in the least.

I've made my opinion about TP's direction pretty clear in the past, but I never expected it to come this far. Way to f*cking go, Nintendo. You know what? F*ck you right back. I am done. Enough is enough. You suck so much it's not even funny.

Peanut 10-19-2006 05:48 PM

Does anyone else think I was right to bail out on the Wii now? Basically, Nintendo is forcing us to play with their sh*tty, over-complicated Wiimote crap for the next Zelda, now I have absolutely no desire to play it. The Wii can wait until after Christmas in this case.

The whole horrific component cable business is ridiculous enough as it seems, but this is the straw that broke Yoshi's back. Way to make a liar out of yourself Reggie.

I knew things were going too well for Nintendo for much too long. They had to mess up somewhere and they've finally stumbled in two huge ways for me. F*ck this whole thing.

Duke 10-19-2006 05:51 PM

I had definitely decided to get the Gamecube version because I didn't want the Wii's bastardized control system screwing up the game, now for the first time ever I don't even want a Zelda game. Way to go Nintendo...you've made true hardcore gamers not want Zelda. I never thought that day would come.

gobo 10-19-2006 05:51 PM

Wasn't this game nearly finished before they even decided on a godawful name for their nextgen and said they were integrating nextgen tech around E3 time? This is reason for me to break down and get a PS2. I've been Nintendo only up until now. I reserve judgement for when it should happen but doesn't. If I can't get it for GC, they can go to hell. :flaming:

Spitfire 10-19-2006 05:54 PM

You guys have sworn off Nintendo an uncountable amount of times. And like a guy who can't get over their X you keep going back for abuse.

Mecha Cow 10-19-2006 05:59 PM

They could have released this damn game for GC a year ago, and focussed on getting Mario ready for the Wii launch. Now both consoles are screwed.

Only Nintendo can f*ck up their 'biggest title in years' this badly. Oh well, as one who was never pleased with TP to begin with, I guess I can at least appreciate the irony.

Peanut 10-19-2006 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
You guys have sworn off Nintendo an uncountable amount of times. And like a guy who can't get over their X you keep going back for abuse.

I've never sworn off anything. Ever. Nintendo made two huge missteps and now they've lost a faithful and willing customer. I know they don't care. It won't effect their bottom line, but look where Sony ended up by lying and screwing over their loyal fanbase.

Microsoft has officially taken over this next-gen of videogames. I'm proud to support the console of a company who isn't trying to f*ck each and every one of us over. Who would have thought anyone would be saying that about Microsoft, but their dedication to the market and to the videogame faithful has been nothing short of amazing.

Duke 10-19-2006 06:05 PM

I agree with Peanut completely. I've never sworn off any company or console including the PS3. I have no desire to purchase a PS3 right now, but that may change somewhere down the line. But just because I haven't sworn them off doesn't mean I don't hate Sony. In my mind Nintendo has officially joined Sony in that regard . I no longer have any desire to purchase a Wii (right now) and I pretty much hate them for how they screw their own fanbase with retarded moves like this.

ThirdMarioBro 10-19-2006 06:08 PM

^Words of truth right there Peanut.

Twilight Princess should have been out a year ago, and Anouma slipped and said that version has been complete all year. They were holding out for a launch title. The only reason I bailed on the GameCube version was because they disabled Widescreen support on the GameCube version, which is bullsh*t. StarFox Adventures could pullfu*king widescreen. F-Zero GX pulled Pro-Scan and Widescreen and sometimes broke the 60FPS barrier. Twilight Princess only couldn't do it so there was a visual perk to getting the Wii version. I just didn't want to play another Zelda game with a sh*tty mesh net blurry S-Video connection, even if I had to use the sh*tty tacked on control setup. Otherwise, I would have perferred to go with the original version. Now, we've got to wait for the real Wii launch game (Super Mario Galaxy) until next fall, and all the people who wanted to play the original Twilight Princess are fu*ked.

Wario Ware has been delayed until next Janurary, and the component cables are once again an exclusive online item in limited supply. I'm considering cancelling my preorder and waiting until Wario Ware.

HOLD-IT!

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7046

Conflicting report. GameStop says that the game is still comming out, but they are no longer taking preorders on it.

Dr. Doom 10-19-2006 06:08 PM

Well I'm still reserving judgement on the Wii controls until it comes out, and the component cable thing doesn't effect me at all. This is kinda crappy news, but I still think the lot of you are overeacting. It seems like people are so eager to cast the first stone or draw lines in the sand these days. Component cables are still available. The Wii controls on TP could be good. Who knows. It's certainly better than nothing. I know we all wanted the game a year ago, but we didn't get it. We're getting it now, on the Wii, with new controls. That's just the nature of the beast, I guess. Let's at least let the bloody system launch before we light our torches and fetch our pitchforks.

And no matter how bad it gets, they're still at least a step above Sony.

Peanut 10-19-2006 06:18 PM

I don't think I'm over reacting at all, not in my position at least. I can't play a game in normal resolution. I can't do it. It's just not possible anymore.

On top of that cancelling TP for the GCN is a complete kick to the nuts move. People were holding off on a Wii because they wanted the classic Zelda experience on the Cube, maybe some people just can't afford a new console, or perhaps (like me) just weren't impressed enough with what the Wii was starting to shape up as. Nintendo promised, they swore up and down to those people that Zelda would still come out for the Gamecube. Now they've killed it, and why? Pure greed. They want us to buy a Wii. Bottom line. They're f*cking over their loyal fanbase, the poor schmucks like TMB and GWG who stuck with Gamecube, almost exclusivly, for it's entire pathetic life. The only reason they're still around to even release the Wii is because of their loyal, cause sure as f*ck no one else kept them floating since 1996.

Edit: I don't see why it would be taken out of the database if it's just not being pre-ordered anymore. That doesn't make much sense. Plus, the game has been completely wiped from EBgames.com and Gamestop.com. Not just unavailable for pre-order, but completely unavailable.

gobo 10-19-2006 06:28 PM

I never wished anything bad against Nintendo before... Unless I can get a Wii and Wiimote for $25 or less total, I never want to buy that biased, overcomplicated, overinflated POS. For one thing, I'm a lefty. For another thing, I have always lacked fine-motor coordination from this medical legacy of mine. If I got a Wii, the first fast-paced gaming experience will literally be a slap in the face... BY MY OWN HAND!!! I'm not selling my soul for that opportunity. I can accomplish that fine trying to use a non-motorized toothbrush. Go ahead and laugh, but I'm dead serious. :evil:

Now, can someone tell me what a component cable is anyway? Is that what you use to plug the GB into the GC? Or, do they mean the compoSITE A/V cables?

ThirdMarioBro 10-19-2006 06:28 PM

Yeah, it dosen't make much sense to just cancel it from their systems without a reason.

And we are not overreracting in the slightest. They took away the HD, we lived with it. They took away the last big GameCube game for those poor suckers like me who stuck with it, and we delt with it. They launched another machine without Mario, and we delt with it. Now they're setting us up to take away the component cables and blame it on us. I don't want to play another generation of games in blurry ass visuals.


and Mario should have been here on day one. We've waited like what, 8 GODDAMN YEARS since Mario 128 was announced.


You know third parties are going to drop Pro-scan support now that nobody can get the cables easily. anything to save a buck.

Peanut 10-19-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro
You know third parties are going to drop Pro-scan support now that nobody can get the cables easily. anything to save a buck.

Exactly my f*cking point! Without component cables readily available to the mass market, why would a 3rd party even attempt to generate the assests needed to put a game into 480p with progressive-scan? There's no reason to waste the money on it. Which also means that we'll get some of the delay inherant in playing low-res games on a hi-res set. That f*cking upscanning that'll lead to lag on the output will be complete torture with the Wiimote.

Mecha Cow 10-19-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

If I got a Wii, the first fast-paced gaming experience will literally be a slap in the face... BY MY OWN HAND!!!
Not making fun of you or anything, but this is awesome. :lol:

Oh, and this is not directed at anyone specific, but this whole 'If you are not with us, you are against us' attitude regarding the Wii needs to stop. I love Nintendo, but I moved out of Happy Fanboy Land a long time ago, and if they f*ck up, I am going to call them out on it. It does not mean I suddenly hate them or whatever. I've seen this stuff happen at several forums now, and it is seriously dumb, so don't do it.

That is all, carry on.

Peanut 10-19-2006 07:00 PM

I think this whole issue is so split because there are so many different opinions. You've got the people who don't own HD sets, don't give a sh*t about HD resolutions, and just want to get a Wii. You've also got people who don't mind that Nintendo is trying to force us all into buying Wii's to play a game that's been promised to us for over a year. They just want to play the game. Then you have people like me. Hardcore to the bone, in need of HD resolutions, not willing to be sh*tted on by liars. I take complete offense to this bullsh*t. The complete lack of support for the component cables is yet another one to list under the reasons this console isn't for the hardcore.

And also, think about this guys. We're never going to see a normal Zelda again. Never. We're going to be waving our arms around for the for see-able future if we want to play one of the greatest gaming franchises in history. I just used this analogy on TMB. It's like when someone dies. It's so f*cking sureal and then when it clicks that it's real you don't even know what to think.

Mecha Cow 10-19-2006 07:06 PM

Yeah, but I'm not too worried about future installments. I don't see anything wrong with a Zelda game that was actually designed for the Wii (Well, unless the Wii sucks, but that's too early to tell). I don't hate the waggle, I just don't want it added to a 'Cube game at the last minute.

Peanut 10-19-2006 07:37 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6160197...stnews;title;1

Gamespot is reporting it too now. Not looking good. I really think it's gone, guys. I'm f*cking depressed.

Dr. Doom 10-19-2006 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro
And we are not overreracting in the slightest.

You're like ALWAYS overreacting, dude.

I'm just trying to be positive I guess, it's what I do.

I know we got screwed over a little, but like I said, that's the nature of the beast.

Asf far the compsite HD business, it seems to me that the majority of people (like my good freind Petros who I could cite as a perfect example) that are concerned with all that stuff are the ones who are gonna be buying a PS3 for all such capablities and it's bluray nonsense. I really can't imagine the average Wii-purchasing person will be so rocked by this stuff at it pertains to Nintendo. But as always, I could be wrong.

愛 10-19-2006 08:31 PM

I'm getting 360 this Christmas, then. Way to go, Nintendo.

Peanut 10-19-2006 08:32 PM

But you're missing the point on the HD stuff. This happened with the Cube. They pulled the function from it and stopped supporting it. This is the fear that some of us have with the Wii. Saying the majority of people who care about this are going to buy a PS3 for such capabilities is just ignorant. Anyone who's hardcore serious into games isn't going to take this lightly. Wether people want to admit it or not, it is an issue.

Dr. Doom 10-19-2006 08:34 PM

Well that's why I said I could be wrong.. HD isn't an issue for me so I don't know.

ThirdMarioBro 10-19-2006 08:40 PM

Well, I own a 360 running at 1080i, so this is an issue for me. My TV is HD, my cable box is HD, my 360 is HD. Wii isn't HD, but progressive scan is enough for me. Take that away, and I get pissed.

Peanut 10-19-2006 08:47 PM

Exactly. We all ready had to deal with the drop from 1080i down to 480p, but we dealt with that. We'll take prog-scan over nothing any day of the week. It's just not acceptable. They could get away with it last gen, because Xbox was the only console supporting up to 720p, but not anymore. Both 360 and PS3 support top-line HD outputs. Wii should at least have Progressive Scan as a standard. This crap threatens that standard. Completely unacceptable.

Dr. Doom 10-19-2006 08:58 PM

Is it at all possible that TP will be available for GC through Nintendo's website like it will (or was gonna be) be in Japan?

Deathknight 10-19-2006 09:14 PM

Ugh, that really sucks. I was going to get the Wii version but why cancel the gamecube version? It's not fair to those who don't want to get a Wii and just want the new Zelda. Though how is it forcing you to use the Wiimote though? The thing has Gamecube controller ports for a reason and I would think that since the game was originally going to be for Gamecube it's going to give the option of using either.

Peanut 10-19-2006 09:16 PM

It has Gamecube ports to play Gamecube games. It won't work with any Wii games. Zelda included. Research people.

Hannah 10-19-2006 09:17 PM

Now I'm never gonna play Twilight Princess.

THANKS ALOT, NINTENDO.

Deathknight 10-19-2006 09:42 PM

Then how are we supposed to play SSBB? There's no way people can use the wii mote for that. I thought that some Wii games were going to support Gamecube controllers.... doesn't make sense to me. This was the last thing I heard awhile back. This upsets me forcing me to use the Wii mote for all games.

Peanut 10-19-2006 09:45 PM

Classic Controller is what SSB:B will use. The option for normal control is not available in Zelda. However you bring up a good point, maybe with the GC version canned they'll put an option for normal control? I doubt it, but it would be a last saving grace.

Kid Icarus 10-19-2006 09:46 PM

I... Woah.

**** you, Nintendo. ****. You.

I'll still be getting a Wii.

Zelda is up in the air. Honestly, if I want a game with sword fighting, I'm going to get Red Steel.

I'm probably just going to wait until Brawl comes out. From now until then there really isn't any reason to own a Wii.

They did need Mario at launch. I don't care if they thought they were saving guns for last... you're in last place, Nintendo. Have you forgotten that? You don't have anything to lose by tossing us everything at once. If the games are good enough, people WILL buy them.

Kid Icarus 10-19-2006 09:49 PM

Wait wait wait. This is JOYSTIQ. Am I the only one who remembers that HUGE **** up they had a couple of months ago? About exclusive Wii launch details?

I smell something going on....

Peanut 10-19-2006 09:51 PM

It was also reported other places. I posted a link for Gamespot up above. Also, I went through the EB and Gamestop pages myself. The Gamecube version of TP has been completely removed.

Anarchistguy 10-19-2006 11:02 PM

Well **** THIS!!! I bought a Gamecube for NOTHING???!!

Dr. Doom 10-20-2006 12:11 AM

Since everyone ignored it the first time, I'll say it again. Is it possible that it will be available for purchase via their website only like in Japan? Also, is there any indication that it's been axed in Europe?

ThirdMarioBro 10-20-2006 12:12 AM

Nobody knows.


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