Dragon Ball Z (Uncut)
 

I was just wondering what the people on this board thought of the Dragon Ball Z series as a whole. I seem to hear a lot of mixed things. I used to watch it when i was a bit younger and was considering re-watching the Un-cut versions of the episdoes, but i dont know if there will really be a difference. So what do you guys think of Dbz and Dbz compared the the uncut episodes? Any episodes where the "uncut" actually makes a big difference?

Well, have read about some of the editing. And seen some of it too (from getting some of the uncut DVDs). In most cases it's little things like excessive violence (especially displays of blood-and-gore). But also have quite a bit of dialogue changing. As well as some cases of most of an ep. being cut (and what remains tacked on other episodes, where there has been minor cutting - to compensate the time lost).

There was some heavy duty editting done to the original Ocean Group-era Dragonball Z. Not only for objectionable material, but for stuff edittors thought was either "boring" or "not funny". The first episode had most of Gohan's scenes in the forest cut, while there were a few episodes that were cut entirely (the one where Gohan meets the robot buried in the cave, for example).

I used to watch the Ocean Group episodes and I still have a soft spot for them, if only for the AWESOME dub job the Ocean Group did. Can't beat Brian Drummond's Vegeta.

The DBZ uncut is good, as they maintain most of the best lines from the Ocean Group dub. The Funimation voices have grown on me by now, though.


As far as Dragonball is concerned, I still like it even though I've outgrown some of it. I prefer the movies, as they omit the one thing I hate most about the TV series, the annoying amounts of filler, and get straight to the point. I own em all on DVD.

Ive only seen what Cartoon Network used to (and still does every now and then i believe) show, but i think Dragonball Z had its good and bad, and in my opinion is an average cartoon show. I think the animation is cool, and the characters werent bad looking either. But story wise, i think its terrible. Way too many pointless episodes where two guys would be fighting, guy x would knock around guy y. Guy y would power up and pound guy x. Guy x would compliment guy y on his strength and then guy x would power up and pound on guy y. Then guy y would compliment guy x on his strength and then guy y would power up and pound on guy x. And continue to repeat this amazingly redundant sequence. Then once that was resolved, they would have to train for the new bad guy who was badder than the last fool they had fought. And then the cycle would repeat itself. Thats just how i feel about it though, obviously there are many people who like Dragonball Z, and thats cool too.

It sucks...seriously I could go on for awhile about why but I'll avoid an essay.

Which is why I liked the original Dragonball a lot better. It was more creative with its stories and paced a lot less redundantly.

I tired of DBZ after the Frieza arc, since all the characters I came to love from Dragonball became completely obsolete and vanished from the series, all for the purpose of introducing new Saiyans.

I used to LOVE DB and DBZ!


I never seen them uncut, tho. I wish I can.

I liked all of DB but not all of DBZ... I stopped watching when Goku and Vagetta went inside of M. Buu.... o_O

I've seen every episode (As far as they were shown on TV at least - Cut, most likely). Horrible, horrible series, yet I can't help but love it. Stupid nostalgia. Hey, it was some pretty amazing stuff for a 12-year old.

GT had none of the charm and was just plain bad, though.

Personally I think pretty much everything with adult Goku sucked. The manga/show started as an adventure story with a very strong comedy element but later chapters became a brainless battle orgy.

You mean those DBZ episodes get LONGER?!

I agree. DBZ is cool and all, but Gimme kid Goku pulling off Bulma's panties and being shocked because he is not accustom to male/female anatomic differences. Gimme Emperor Pilaf and His hench chick who could easily kick his ass. Gimme Yamucha before he looked like a game show host in a yellow suit (That Irwin figure looks a hell of a lot like Guy Smiley... I'm sorry). More lewd humor, more magic.

The only arc of Z I found totally interresting so far is the Middle of the Buu Storyarch where Kid Buu and Mr. Satan have their scene.

I'm a DBZ fan. I started reading the mangas a couple years back, and it only increased my love of the show. It can be slow and tedious at times, but I still enjoy it for what it is.

How do the mangas compare to the t.v. show? Are they more mature? Follow the same story line? etc...

The one thing that really irked me about DBZ was the total shafting of nearly all the characters from Dragonball. They either became so out-powered by the Saiyans and outer space enemies that they completely vanished into worthless obscurity (Yamcha, Tien, Chao-tzu) or they stuck around solely for the sake of comic relief (poor poor Krillen).

I mean, they couldn't at least thrown us a bone and shown Puar and Oolong transform at least ONCE in the series. Any Dragonball nostalgia is welcome. Hell, the Power Poll would've been great if they'd used it in the series (though I'm glad we got to see it in Dead Zone and World's Strognest).

I dunno, I felt a bit ripped off after the Frieza saga ended. I spent all of Dragonball coming to love these characters and then the second Trunks shows up they are completely discarded so we can get one new Super Saiyan after another.

That's why Tree of Might is my favorite of the movies. It has the Dragonball cast getting one last hurrah as effective warriors and not just stupid comic relief.

I know most people hate the Buu arc but the beginning with Gohan as Saiyaman was a lot more like early Dragonball than anything else in DBZ.

It would be awsome, although extremely tedius and time consuming, if someone took the initiative to cut the repetitive fight scenes down into more intense and meaningful fight scenes, and cut down on the filler, meaningless B.S.

I bet if that happened, they could cut DBZ down to 100-125 episodes easily, and create a much more interesting DBZ.

Why I had trouble getting into it. I like action comedy. Granted, there was some comedy in Z (most of it filtered out by edits... all relating to porno), but I didn't really even WANT to bother with it, until freshman year of Art School, someone brought in the bootleg movie in which Hitler was ressurrected. Now that struck me on a hillarious "family Guy" level of wonderfully offensive material. And that's for like 10-14 year olds, isn't it? South Park and Family Guy barely egt away with that stuff.

I really got into the old Dragon ball after buying a heavily edited 2 disk set of the first 13 episodes and the first movie (Blood Rubies) at Wal Mart for 5.50. I then picked up the manga, and splurged on one of the massively overpriced 2 disk sets (though it was, in fairness, really a gift card I used). Much funnier, racier stuff.

As for the box set, I cannot stand how Roshi was toned down so much he was shy to ask for a date with an older woman, and not to blow around in Bulma's breasts. Not to mention they randomly changed The Ox King story Oolong tells to a story about Yamcha... even though the shadow has horns and throws an axe. But I got so many laughs out of it... and many more when I found the true versions of the edited stuff.

My favorite characters were always the wacky ones, Oolong, Roshi, Kuririn (SP?), Korin... and like that.

Actually... I feel that whole scene with Buu and Mr. Satan was not just Old school Dragon ball worthy, but even routes back to Dr. Slump... only this time, instead of cute little Arale causing Animaniac style mischief, we get a psycho kid who turns people into candy. Evertyhgin else in that arch is okay... but Mr. Satan... funny as hell.

DBZ and pretty much any cartoon from Japan make my brain explode. I've have never viewed more ridiculous things in my entire life. If I never go another day without seeing another generic looking anime character, stupid chibi face, or spiky haired fruitcup, it still won't have been long enough.

Yea? Whatever Peanut. Sounds like a personal issue.


I started watching DBZ in 6th grade. That show hooked me, and I remember waiting very impatiently every 4 months for new episodes. I even waited the freaking 2-year stent without any new episodes (right in the middle of the Freiza saga) and eventually lost inerest. About a year later, I caught some reruns, and ended up getting back into it, around the time of the Cell saga. I eventually finished watching the whole thing.

That show, while incredibly drawn out, continued to keep me interested. The show was pretty emotional at some points, and in retrospect, I think I enjoyed their down-time just as much, if not more, than watching them fight.

DBZ is also the anime that opened my mind to other anime. The gateway anime. Since then, my tastes have matured a tad, but I think that DBZ will not go forgotten.

I think that this show goes next to Power Rangers, and the TMNT, not for quality nor nostalgia, but as far as influencing me to become an artist, as well as a martial artist.

DragonBall Z used to be my favorite show. I love the action, the fighting, the powers, the characters, everything about it. I stopped watching after Kid Buu was destroyed. I'm not sure why I didn't see anymore episodes after that, probably due to the show being on when it was time to eat dinner.

I was going to sell all my DragonBall Z figures on ebay, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I wish a toy company would make 6" fully articualted DBZ figures with great sculpts. That would be great.

Goku is my favorite hero character in the show, and Cell is my favorite villian character.

I figured it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned Goku and 'that' Bulma scene from DragonBall.

And they couldn't even do that crap here on Family Guy! And this is an older children's show.

Funny thing. I try to go to more Japanese shows AGAINST those stereotypes. That's why I love One Piece. It doesn't even look like a stereotypical Anime. I guess it was spikey haired Sayan Goku that brought that one over. Personally, I hope to NEVER EVER see another half assed Pokemon Knock off, and some decent stuff for a change.

The anime is just too damn long, the pacing sucks.

I enjoy the manga much more (thanks to my sister who has been collecting it lately...). We haven't made it to the DBZ part of the manga yet, so I can't comment on that...but the pacing and story just seems a lot more enjoyable in the manga.

That's the problem with Animes and mangas. A lot of things are added to keep the animation from getting ahead of the monthly comic chapters. I can only bring up one example. The Majin Buu segment where Goten and Trunks finally perform a successful fushion, they go off to fight Buu. In the cartoon, a long battle sequence ensues, they come back, beat up. In the comic, 2 pannels after they leave, they return beat up. I think the comic made it much funnier.

I know the original Dragon ball filled out storylines with extra episodes, but I feel they were at least entertaining and funny. Like when they got to the amusement Park and a Master theif poses as a fortune teller to steal the Dragon Balls. Goku drops his pants.

Yamcha: Come on Goku! Every one knows about thoseballs.

Yeah they cut out some dialog of them talking about fighting, and a few shots of them staring at one another.

Oh wait that's the entire show

LOL, that's so true!

Why so much hate for Dragon Ball GT...o, and how much are Vegeta and Trunks featured in that series? Is'nt Trunks one of the main characters in Gt?

Yes, as I recall.

Trunks was more heavily featured during the actual "grand tour" arc (or as they were released in America, "the lost episodes") while Vegeta spends more time on Earth fighting Baby and the Dragons.

As I said before, I wasn't too thrilled with DBZ after the Frieza arc ended, so GT wasn't my cup of tea. The Grand Tour arc can be a bit painful. It tries to go back to the playful days of Dragonball but the writing isn't half as good.

The ending also depresses the hell out of me.

GT is really, really bad. It felt like some kind of crappy fanfiction, and I guess in a way it was. It really makes no sense at all, even by the extremely low DBZ standards.

GT is really a rehash of past glories, with lousy endings, think Transformers: Headmasters in terms of outright main character rape. It has no reason to exist, and nothing progresses forward, the only shocking thing about GT is the amount of downers for every character. That being said, it's probably the only DB series anywhere where Android 18 actually emotes, and to the writer's credit, it's one of the best scenes in the series.

...And it turned Pan into probably the most annoying DB character ever. That's hard to do for any female in an anime. Pan was charming in her brief kindergarden apperances near the epilouge of DBZ, and it's that Pan that fanfiction writers remember and draw years later when there pairing her with Trunks, not the obnoxious one in GT.

Yeah, it really says something about the quality of a TV show if Funimation had to go out of their way to "lose" the first half of the series and release it beginning with the Baby saga.

They actually skipped the actual GT part in the US? :lol: Those were probably the 'best' episodes of the series.

Yeah, apparently (from what I've read) they wanted to get to a more 'action' part of the series (and skip the 'universe trek'). Feeling more viewers would get into it from that.

:-? This is a bummer, I was actually looking forward to checking out the Dragon Ball Gt series, considering I thought Dragon Ball z was pretty cool, but though there are episodes I havent seen yet, I ultimately know what happens at the end of all the arcs, making watching them kinda useless....is Dragon Ball gt worth checking out at all? Maybe I should just check out some Dragon Ball, I havent seen too much of that one either...bleh.

Nah, I think watching GT will just leave a bad taste in your mouth. Like I said, it's like a bad fanfic. From what I've seen DB is a lot more fun.

I'd definately watch GT only as a last resort if you have no other material to satiate your Dragonball fix.

If you haven't seen all of the original Dragonball, I'd highly recommend you watc that, first. It's very fun, and maybe a little too silly at times, but towards the end (the Picollo and Picollo Jr sagas) it gets pretty dark.

GT had a few good ideas, like bringing back the last of the Tuffles to seek revenge on Vegeta and the rest of the Saiyans, but was executed very poorly.

I haven't seen much of GT but I got the impression that every single plotline was just a rehash of an earlier DB/DBZ story. Like that one episode in which this (actually harmless) monster threatens to kill the villagers if they don't give him a beautiful girl? Yeah.

Speaking of which, Do you buy the DVD's, or diod you see them another way? I'm asking because I really want to get the saga in which Goku fights the red Ribbon Army, and Meets up with Arale-chan and everyone from Dr. Slump. I have the movie box set, and she's midway toward the end of Mystical Adventure.

I'm pretty disappointed that Funimation didn't release ANY of the Slump series. I don't think it would be a hit, but I guess the DBZ collectors would get a kick out of it.

Heh! Isn't that why they skipped the ENTIRE Dragonball cartoon and whent right to Z? I do want to check out the Pilaf episode, though...

I first saw the show through bootleg VHS tapes and never bought the DVDs. I'm tempted too, especially for the Picollo saga, but the money is a little too much. I've been content just buying the Movies (have them all, finally).

The Dr. Slump crossover episode was pretty funny, as I recall. I especially liked the fake Superman character.

Well, not the entire cartoon. They got through 13 episodes and the Curse of the Blood Rubies movie before they decided to skip ahead to DBZ.

Not to step on anyone's toes or anything but as far as Dragonball Z is concerned the show is quite horrible. Goku as the hero just bugs me. He is careless and unconcerned with consequences. "Oooooh this guy's power level is so high, I can't wait to find fight him!" IE His battle with Cell. He allows this menace to grow stronger and stronger just to satisfy his warrior urges?? He could destroy the planet (and I think he does) and all Goku cares about is fighting a "worthy opponent". But there is no need for concern because the dragon balls will always be there to resurrect the planet! People can die. People can suffer. But the Dragon Balls will always resurrect them. Ugh! At least in Dragon BAll GT (for as terrible and pointless as it was) gave consequences to misusing the Dragon Balls so much.

Oh and what people have mentioned about the long drawn out fights. XP

And is it me or do they just tack on stories to gain more profit. I just saw some movie called "Fusion Reborn". WTF?? O.O

Heheheh and why oh why do I watch this anime if I hate it so much? Well...I don't. :lol: It's weird and I don't get it most of the time but I'm guessing that you're not supposed to. XD

Ah yes! Suppaiman. He eats pickled plums to get NO super powers. I've only seen 2 episodes of the real show. One actually, I think, could have been a movie. He was in the movie. I really like how Viz at least released the books up here. I think Slump is highly underrated. Plus, the Doc looks like me so much, it's freaky.



I have that box set. Cost me 6 bucks at WalMart. I remember seeing the episode where Oolong first appeared back in the 90's. It sticks out in my mind since Goku piddled on the tree. I find it odd they didn't censor that. It wouldn't have made sense without it... but then again the part where Bulma has random ants in her underwear was pretty stupid. I guess they liked the action segments better, so that's why classic DB didn't catch on.