LoZ: Twilight Princess *Spoilers*
 

So I've got just about 4 hours put into TP today. One thing to be said for the game, it's going to be loooong. I've only just passed the first dungeon and there's supposed to be 10 full-sized dungeons, with some huge ass gaps in between.

Anyways, first impressions, obviously very positive. It's Zelda. Plain and simple. If you like Zelda games, you'll like TP. That being said, I don't think this is the "be-all end-all" that it was touted to be. Better than Majora's Mask? Of course. Better than OoT or tWW? Ehhhh...it's all about preference really. There's no one thing that's made me sit up and go "Wow! TP is so much better than the rest!". Granted, I've only been playing for 4 hours, but this just seems like Zelda again.

I'm still a bit iffy on the wolf stuff and really the whole Twilight thing all together. Not that it's bad or anything, but I just prefer playing as normal Link.

The game controls well, a lot more intuitive than I was led to believe. I was very worried after watching Alex Navarro struggle with the game on Gamespots Wii's marathon, but now I realize it was just because he sucks at games. Pointing with the Wiimote for stuff still feels a bit awkward, but I'm slowly getting better at it. Everything else is pretty fluid though. It feels good overall. Better than normal controls? Another iffy one, but it's definately not worse.

One problem I have personally is with the Wiimote speaker. That thing is awful. The sound is super tiny, and sometimes it gives off weird static noises. I really don't like that they took out all the effects for Link's weapons and made them come out of the Wiimote. It doesn't make sense, and the thing just feels kinda cheap.

So, anyone got questions about TP on Wii, or even the Wii in general? I'll try and answer whatever I can. As for the people that own it, thoughts thus far?

Well, I know that I'm easier to sway than you by a long shot, but I find it to be the best in the series, though I'm barely even to the first dungeon. I'm slow at this stuff, and was never good with complex puzzle solving. Don't even ask how long it took me to beat OoT. Let's just say you guys will be done with it way before I am. :lol:

Anyway, the cinemas are top-notch. I adore the music, and I mean adore it. Haven't had a soundtrack this nice in forever from Nintendo, and that's just pathetic. The controls are weird to adjust to, but no more so than trying to move Mario with an analog stick a decade ago. It gets easier and easier until you reach the point that it becomes natural, and then you're good to go, and the game is built with that in mind. It picks up as your skill and confidence build up. That's just good game design right there.

The field is a tad bland from what I've seen, but who cares. It's just there to have fun with, and to give scope. I had a blast in Ocarina just riding around jumping over fences on horseback, so I'm sure I'll be happy here as the game rolls on.

I'm fully satisfied so far. Better than OoT and WW which puts it at the top of my list. It's one of those games where you can kick back, check out, and go to another world. That's what I wanted, and that's what I got.

Haven't played it too much, but the fishing really PO'ed me. I bet i was fishing for a solid hour (between playing zelda and watching football on and off). I caught one fish, but it didn't do the job (trying to avoid spoilers). Then after a bunch longer i caught another one and it worked. After that though it really picked up for me. Getting some of the weapons and learning the moves. the the slingshot feels really good aiming and firing. i wonder what a great FPS will feel like (looks like red steel is getting bad reviews). All in all it's looking great. I've only ever played OOT just recently (almost done it, just a couple more dungeons), but zelda games are pretty good.

The music is good at points, but the music and sound effects in the Twilight are mind-numbingly bad.

Bad technically or artistically?

Both ways. It really isn't even music. It's just a jumble of awful synth noises.

Just got around to playing as link wolf, and i must say that i don't like it very much. i'd rather just play as ordinary link. Otherwise everything is good. had a bit of trouble figuring out somewhat simple puzzles too. The story is good though :)

It's actually surprising how robust the story seems to be in this Zelda. There's a cutscene after most events, unlike the other games.

Anyways, as more and more time goes into this game, I see more things I love and more I wish was better. I'm really not too hot on the sword swinging. It's not the most responsive thing in the world. I actually felt more into the game pressing a button than swinging the wiimote. In one particular part it actually caused a good deal of annoyance...


You need pretty precise timing at that part, and the controls just don't offer the precision you need to excute what you want to do easily. It's a good thing most of the time you just wave your wiimote around randomly to hit something.

I love zelda and I can't wait to get my hands on the new one. I don't have a wii but will be getting 1 next year but I plan to get the gamecube version.

BTW, did u guys hear what gamespot gave zelda tp? a 8.8. Since then all the zelda fans on other forums were like mad about it but it's a game. All good gaems have at least 1 or 2 scores with bad scores. No game is perfect.

I don't have the game but it seems that most reviewers (here and elsewhere) seem to agree that the game overall is pretty fantastic but most don't seem to be too keen on the wolf parts....you would think that would add a very interesting dynamic but I guess not...which sux, cuz I was kinda looking forward to that...

the reason i don't like the wolf aspect is because maybe i haven't gotten enough time using just link in the previous games. i've only played OOT and am not even done that yet.

it's not terrible, but i'd rather just be link.

Majoras Mask was annoying to me for similar reasons -- I wanted to play as Adult Link and kick butt. However, you start as a Deku POS character, and never become the real link we all grew to know and love.

At least we have adult Link. It's been too long playing as that toddler... :ohwell:

I've had the Gamecube version pre-ordered for like a year and a half now. Is that still supposed to come out (it was also supposed to be a special edition version)?

Yeah, starting out as Deku link was kinda dumb, but my the time you got the Zora Mask it was all worth it.

Yes zelda twilight princess is still coming out for the gamecube.. It comes out december 13 for us North Americans.

I been playing zelda since the very beginning and I can't wait to use wolf link.

Also, Majora's mask is sweet and fun. Collecting all masks is tough but you get a new big reward for the mask collecting and you will get the complete ending.

Why I say complete well if u dont collect all masks, teh ending will show but there will be black scenes with a mask on it meaning you havent gotten that mask and if u want to see the whole ending, you will need all masks.

It's a great game, unfortuantely do to how complicated it becomes at time, I've played a good 3/5 of it 3 seperate times and never gotten around to finishing it.

I just beat the second dungeon in TP. The dungeon itself wasn't as interesting as the first to me, but the boss was amazing! Really enjoying some of the more advanced puzzles in this one.

Oh, u should at least try to finish it. I guess from my view it's a good game and the final battle is pretty good. Majora's mask is such a dark game and depressing with that moon hanging over u.

Also, it's only 1 dugeon, let's hope the 3rd one is better for u :)

I HAVE tried, on three separate occasions. No dice. Great game tho.

Ok well at least you enjoyed it. Well if it's hard for you, you can always use a guide. Just my opinion.

Yes, great, now I'm being condescended to. :|

It's not that it's hard. I mean it's not always a walk in the park, but it's not that it's too hard. I just tend to lose interest by the time I get to Ikana Canyon.

uhh you don't need to use a guide but it is there for a last resort, my friend. Zelda majora's mask isn't hard, yes but I can understadn how you lost interest.. as new games come out, it really is difficult to go back and finish it unless it is a really good game like of course, zelda twilight princess.

Yes, it's sort of a bad habit of mine. I've started and never finished some wonderful games. Took me about 2 years each before I finished Metroid Prime and Wind Waker. And I think both of those were at 3 tries each, too. So I'm behind on that one. Never finished FFVI either, and I loved that one, obviously. I'm getting a little better, I've played both FFVII and FFIX over the past few months and gotten to points where I thought I wouldn't be able to continue, but I ended up finishing them both after pacing myself over a period of about 5 weeks each time. FFVII, that's another one I picked up a buncha times and never finished for...about 9 years, actually. FFIX is my second favorite game of all time, and I left taht hanging the first time. So yeah, it's an issue I have, but I'm improving.

And by the way, I did use a strategy guide for Majora's Mask, lol.

Wow to the games you mention that u never finished. I still have a backlog of ps1 and xbox games I yet to finish. I did finish metal gear solid 2: Substance on xbox a couple days ago. I plan to work more on dynasty warriors 5.

I finish the ones that are awesome and the ones that are good I usually play and stop.

I've got 11 hours into the game now and have beaten 3 dungeons. The introductry three that happen before the story even picks up. 11 hours and the game is apparently just beginning.

I'll say this, the opening 3 dungeons are like later dungeons from OoT. There's no Deku Tree or Death Mountain in this one. It starts tough and it stays that way. And the water temple sure as hell lives up to it's name-sake.

My favourite parts thus far have been the boss fights, though. Truly epic battles. There are also a lot of new things that have never been seen in a Zelda game before. It's more than just the running from dungeon to dungeon thing now, there are events and things of the sort that take place all the time. It's great. I'm really tiring on the wolf though. Everytime I change into him I want to stop playing for awhile.

The first boss in a dungeon was cake. but that could be the Cap'n Morgan talking.

Do you mean the first mini-boss or the first real boss? Either of them is to be considered easy. None of the bosses have really been all that difficult, if difficult at all. One boss, I guess it could be considered a boss, gave me two game overs though. I guess that means something.

One of the only 3D Zelda bosses I've ever really had difficulty with was that goddamn Fish in the Great Bay Temple from Majora's Mask. I don't think I ever ended up getting the hang of that one. I haven't fought it in years at this point and I don't even really remember how the fight went, I just recall it pissed me off.

I agree that the first boss was really easy. Oh well, it's been fun so far. I've been playing for almost 10 hours now and just finished the first boss. I might not be the best at these types of games, but I bet this will push the 100 hour mark for me :)

I am soooo bad at Dungeons. Majora gave me so much hell, it drove me to GameFAQs. I swore off getting any help for Twilight, so I'll probably be playing this into Spring. :lol:

Bah, time to take a break and go run off my Cyndi Lauper & 80's music awards beta max tapes.


Seriously, this is the greatest game I've played. Personal opinion, but I'm sticking to it.

Just wondering, have you played through that first part as the wolf? The part where you....

Very minor spoiler


Cause if you played that and enjoyed it, you're either lying or have problems. Seriously, horrible horrible stuff. Especially considering you don't just do it once. :ohwell:

This is a great game, but I'm going to be honest, I've had more fun with Viva Pinata. There's just a ton of stuff that bogs this Zelda down a bit, the sword swinging is one of them. It feels no better than pressing a button, except that when you press a button there's no lag, so you can time those sword slashes perfectly instead of having to swing early or just wildly.

I thought the first 2 Dungeons, were easy.I had more, trouble with Bokoblin Boar riders then the first 2 Dungeons.Some guy, at Gamefaqs claimed he beat the game in 31 hours.I ordered the guide, from Nintendo.
I think the boss fights, were harder in Zelda OOT then this game.

I would have to disagree. There wasn't a single difficult boss fight in OoT. Twinrova could get difficult if you were unlucky, and Ganon could be a pain in the ass in his final form, but they weren't difficult. Besides, you've only faced two bosses so far. The equivilent of the Deku Tree and Death Mountain bosses from OoT. If anything the TP bosses are tougher from the get go. The first boss in OoT was insanely simple, and while the first boss in TP isn't much harder, the method in which you defeat it is much more complex.

BTW, you don't need commas in the middle of your sentence for no reason.

Am I the only one who got this game or what? Where the hell is everyone? I just beat the 5th dungeon, and as the game goes along, I keep getting more and more impressed. This really is a very different Zelda game, even in terms of the way some of the game plays. I don't really know how to put it, but after the first 3 dungeons TP really starts to stand out on it's own, and in a very very good way.

It still hasn't surpassed TWW for me, but it's damn good.

Mr. "**** the Wii, I cancelled my preorder."

I love this game. I only dislike how the puzzles are, at times, harder than the bosses. It's sickening sometimes.

I should have it later this week.

There were hard puzzles?

Well, Nintendo's apparently gotten off of their "make games easy for everyone" stance. This game is a bitch in terms of difficulty. I guess I'm just a bit of a pussy, but I have a hard-ass time with Zelda dungeons, and this one is like the Water Temple from MM over and over for me. It has no effect on my enjoyment of the game, but damn if it isn't hard. Like Yoshi's Island 2. Meeeean game, but then again, WW was easy as hell, so maybe I'm just spoiled. Either way, I'm horrible at puzzle solving. Horrible.

Bah, the Wolf parts aren't bothering me, but I admit they aren't the most fun part of the experience. Doesn't affect my stance that this game is already surpassing OoT for me, and I've held that as my favorite game ever, even in the face of Metroid Prime. I still can't get over the cinemas and how cool they are. This really is a different breed of Zelda.

I will give it to you that this game does have some pretty fiendishly head scratching puzzles, but I don't find it that much harder. It's funner though. I will say that. The puzzles in this game are a lot more fun than in OoT. Probably on par with Wind Waker, but with a dash of difficulty and complexity thrown in for good measure.

And yeah, this is a different game. Where are you though? If you haven't hit the 4th dungeon yet, you don't even understand how different it really is.

The water temple in OOT was a pain.. I can't wait for this new game!