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gobo 12-01-2006 01:57 PM

NEW EP DISCUSSION (9Dec06): "The Journal"
 
So far, it's only a title. But, something tells me this ep may be in response to all the fans who have been complaining about how unsentimental the characters have all been so far this 'season'. Anyone else care to speculate?

xChri5x 12-01-2006 02:45 PM

I plan to get up by 9:30 this weekend to find out. Didn't make it last weekend....

Spitfire 12-01-2006 03:00 PM

It's like "The Notebook" It tells the love story of April and Casey...I kid man that movie sucked.

Toonami Tom 12-01-2006 04:29 PM

Awesome! I bet it's about adventures the turtles would have had if they didn't go to the future (I hope).

TMNT 12-01-2006 05:04 PM

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Awesome! I bet it's about adventures the turtles would have had if they didn't go to the future (I hope).
If that is the case, which let's hope it is, we'll still have the Fast Forward character designs, not the 2K3 ones...so it's not that great. It'll be like that one episode of FF where we saw Hun and the Shredder again.

Raph's Girl 12-01-2006 06:40 PM

Hey...maybe it IS about Casey and April??? Maybe we find out what their son's name was???

Jester 12-01-2006 07:22 PM

I'm sure it is a refrence to Casey's journal, the one Cody claims to own. I'm not sure what else that may entail, but I like the idea of tieing up the loos ends of April, Casey, and the old 2k3 series.

gobo 12-02-2006 02:18 AM

It's Casey's journal? I always thought it was April's. Who would be able to decipher the writings of Casey Jones anyway? :P

Raph's Girl 12-02-2006 11:53 AM

What's interesting is that Splinter's reaction upon seeing the journal was that he was questioning wether his sons wanted to know what their future would be like. Crazy time paradox...urgh...

creativerealms82 12-02-2006 03:36 PM

Well knowing the future is a problem since then you can change it. I mean yeah Don knows of his acomplishments but he sure would not want to change those. If the book had like a date and time of one of the turtle's deaths in a battle they should not know it and not be allowed to change it.

J Legault 12-02-2006 10:27 PM

While watching the preview I could of swarn one of the turtles was battling Dr. Malignes from Episode 11. Or least some dude who looks like him.

But I'm betting that the episode may show some miscellaneous villians if I'm not misstaken.

gobo 12-02-2006 10:51 PM

That explains Mikey in his redesigned Turtle Titan suit... :)

Jester 12-03-2006 12:17 PM

Anyone know where I can view the preview?

Nano 12-03-2006 05:18 PM

I'm basing this purely on my gut, but I'm going to guess this will be the best episode of FF so far. (Watch me get hugely disapointed next week, hahaha)

johnnyblaze 12-09-2006 08:01 AM

lol I liked that episode. Especially their reaction to the idea of Donatello really being Serling and Splinter admitting he got lazy while finishing up the story

Kunoichi_Haruko 12-09-2006 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyblaze (Post 446351)
lol I liked that episode. Especially their reaction to the idea of Donatello really being Serling and Splinter admitting he got lazy while finishing up the story

I liked it too. I screamed right along with them when Serling entered the room. And I guess this episode calms my lingering fear that they wouldn't get back to their timeline. Yay for not being stuck in the future for too long!

Ultimate Shredder 12-09-2006 08:30 AM

This was the best tmnt ff episode! My favorite pats were Leonardo's, Raphael's
and Donatello's. I didn't like Mikey's cause the villain was a baby. I liked seeing April, Casey, Karai, Hun, and the Ninja Tribnual again. Anybody notice a change in Hun's voice? Oh I also liked Donny as Serling!

Mandi-chan 12-09-2006 08:50 AM

Well...this was the first episode of "Fast Forward" I've sat through in it's entirety since the first episode.

It wasn't too bad (the theme song made my head hurt...).

Mikey's story was dumb, but that's no suprise.:roll:

I loved Leo's story because it showed that Mr. Perfect isn't always right. It also showed that Karai is on good terms with the Hamato clan again (she seemed annoyed with Leo's accusations of her, and I don't blame her).

Don's was good for the most part, got stupid with him being a brain with EYES in a jar...then got a bit funny with the robot.

Raph's was just plain weird (Hun's new voice was horrible!).

Shadow Wolf75 12-09-2006 08:51 AM

Oh yeah, to hell with Darius Dun, Splinter's the REAL evil genius around here! Don's part was great, Serling showed up at just the right time to scare the crap outta the guys. What makes it even funnier is if you think Cody and Splinter were outside the room listening in on the guys and they were the ones who sent him in there . . . woulda went something like this, I think . . .

*Cody and Splinter are outside the trophy room, listening in*

Cody: Oooh, they're getting to the end of Donny's part, this should be funny!

Splinter: Yes, that was my most brilliant plot twist, wasn't it? *Serling is wandering around nearby cleaning, Splinter spots him and gets an evil grin* But to make things more interesting . . . Oh, Serling, I think you missed some dust in the trophy room!

Serling: I did? Oh dear . . .

*Serling goes in the room, the Turtles scream. Cody and Splinter are laughing their asses off . . .*

TerranigmaFreak 12-09-2006 09:08 AM

This is the best FF episode hands down. I thought this episode would suck from the preview last week, but boy was I ever wrong. It was totally hilarious and very interesting as well (although what splinter said earlier was a dead give away the stories were made up, but that didn't make it any less interesting). Did anyone think Baxter Stockman kind of robot when they saw the Donny brain? Of course the unveiling of the Serling bot was even more hilarious. This also confirms that FF takes place after the Lost Season. I'm surprised all the other characters look exactly as they did in the regular show though. I thought they would change their design a bit just like the turtles. Thank god they didn't. Yeah, Hun's new voice sucks.

Oh man, stuck on a desserted island for 3 years with a bare butt naked Casey. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cascadia 12-09-2006 10:29 AM

That was a good episode. Splinter plotted those adventures so that the boys would learn the hard way.

ZariusTwo 12-09-2006 10:55 AM

Awwww, how cute, Fast Forward tried it's own version of "Bad Day" with another bait and switch pile of s*ite...knew this was going to be overrated, the only good thing about this story was the animation styles constantly changing and contrasting, as well as Donatello's predicament being a nice tounge-in-cheek nod to Volume Three.

If this is as "edgy" as FF can hope to be, kindly give me a reason to care about what CAN happen, not a glorified scared spitless program.

Sage Ninja 12-09-2006 10:57 AM

:|

It is official. Splinter is an evil, master mind, manipulator, douche bag. But I say this with begrudging admiration.

Man, Splinter really hit the turtles where they live with his little fabricated story lines. It was...almost f*cked up with the way he went about it. Really messed up. I have mixed feelings about his sadistic aim. Having Leo turned away in disgrace by the tribunal. Having Donatello achive fame and then get his body destroyed and turned into a Baxter like Brain in a jar was low. Definately below the belt on those two.

I missed the one with Mikey (I over slept) but it seems he wrecks the justice force. And the one with Raphael was funny but I felt bad that Splinter wrote them being stuck on an island and having poor Casey lose April to another man. Ouch! that is harsh. I'll never see Splinter in the same way ever again. :-? :-? :ohwell: :ohwell: :| :| :lol: :lol: :lol:

iris 12-09-2006 11:20 AM

Haha :lol: Sage Ninja. At least Splinter didn't spend all his time watching soaps in this one.

I only caught the last 3 minutes, thanks to the airtime change. And I forgot too. And I was watching "Hitchhiker's Guide" anyway. Marviiiiiin!

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 446382)
Awwww, how cute, Fast Forward tried it's own version of "Bad Day" with another bait and switch pile of s*ite...knew this was going to be overrated, the only good thing about this story was the animation styles constantly changing and contrasting, as well as Donatello's predicament being a nice tounge-in-cheek nod to Volume Three.

If this is as "edgy" as FF can hope to be, kindly give me a reason to care about what CAN happen, not a glorified scared spitless program.

uh... yeah. What was the nod to Volume 3?

ZariusTwo 12-09-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iris (Post 446387)
Haha :lol: Sage Ninja. At least Splinter didn't spend all his time watching soaps in this one.

I only caught the last 3 minutes, thanks to the airtime change. And I forgot too. And I was watching "Hitchhiker's Guide" anyway. Marviiiiiin!


uh... yeah. What was the nod to Volume 3?

Donny turned into a robot? C'mon...

triplexxx 12-09-2006 11:45 AM

See, I told you splinter had a sadistic sense of humor

iris 12-09-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 446388)
Donny turned into a robot? C'mon...

Ahh... yeah... for some reason I thought you meant something more obscure.

Jester 12-09-2006 11:53 AM

Not bad....I liked to see the "old" characters back again....but aren't the tribunal members all dead? And don't the Foot Mystics look more...not like baskets?

X 12-09-2006 11:59 AM

Loved this episode. I have a feeling they will return to their time in another season. Was good seeing the past again, but I can accept change, so whichever direction this show is headed, I don't mind at all...

The only thing I mind about now, is that 4Kids BETTER release Ninja Tribunal now. I was thinking that 4Kids was going to pass off Ninja Tribunal and its following episodes to make it seem like Good Genes Part 2 was the season finale and then moved to FF, but todays episode opened that can of worms. There is absolutely no excuse for 4Kids not releasing Ninja Tribunal now that it was brought back up. Good going 4Kids, NOW RELEASE THE DARN DVD SET!

Yay for next weeks episode being new, and not this hogwash talk of airing the next thirteen episodes next fall. PFFT!

Jest to answer your question. It was all made up, so anything could've happened. April could've been dating that purple chick Cody likes for all Splinter knows. :P

-X-

The Big Bad 12-09-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 446394)
Season 5 Spoilers:
Spoiler:
Not bad....I liked to see the "old" characters back again....but aren't the tribunal members all dead? And don't the Foot Mystics look more...not like baskets?

Hey hey hey! Just because the series sees fit to "spoil" parts of a season most people haven't seen, doesn't mean you get to. Please, as a favor, put that in spoiler tags.

triplexxx 12-09-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad (Post 446399)
Hey hey hey! Just because the series sees fit to "spoil" parts of a season most people haven't seen, doesn't mean you get to. Please, as a favor, put that in spoiler tags.

Well, he's not actually spoiling anything, we already saw the episode where the Tribunal was killed.

ZariusTwo 12-09-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 446394)
Not bad....I liked to see the "old" characters back again....but aren't the tribunal members all dead? And don't the Foot Mystics look more...not like baskets?

All of it was a fabrication anyway, not to mention the Turtles seemingly also forgot that the Tribunal were dead

Hah, proof positive this episode was crap, could'nt get the show's own continuity right

VaughnMichael 12-09-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 446401)
All of it was a fabrication anyway, not to mention the Turtles seemingly also forgot that the Tribunal were dead

Hah, proof positive this episode was crap, could'nt get the show's own continuity right

well thats not true zarius no ones seen all of the lost season yet.
And you know comics and these type of shows characters always have a way of coming back.:D

cowabunga14 12-09-2006 01:18 PM

This episode was decent, I thought.

I found the humor enjoyable and I'm gald it was abundant. There was action in this episode, yeah, but I feel that the humor just surpassed it. Anyways, here's what I thought of each Turtles' future vignettes...

I'd say I liked Leo's the most cuz he got to go back to the Ninja Tribunal to continue his training. I liked the fight scenes for his part -- especially since Karai showed up. :D

Raphael finally got to go out to fight the Purple Dragons with Casey again. The narration by Casey for this part truly got my attention. It was also cool seeing Hun again, but I didn't care much for his new voice.

Donny's part was very scientific, I thought, but that's ok. It was interesting seeing him as a disembodied brain... sorta reminded me of when Baxter was like that. I don't agree with his brain being used to power a Serling unit, though. :roll:

Mikey's part didn't really do much for me, but I'm glad the writers decided to include it, though. :ohwell: Hey, at least he was in the beginning making a big deal out of action figures, which was not only funny, but it was something that I could relate to.

Overall, since this episode was decent, I'm giving it three "Do not read April and Casey's jorunal" moments out of five. Next week's episode looks like it'll be pretty cool, since we'll be seeing Viral again.

Drtooth 12-09-2006 01:44 PM

Firstly, I saw the fact the Journal was going to be fake pretty much as soon as Splinter kept warning them about reading the journal. Prior knowledge did help me realize that the stories were mainly written as to affect each turtle in a specific way. Mainly in tone. Mike's was childish and comic geeky, Raph's had no basic plot other than "go and fight," Leo's was emotionally motivated, and Don's pretty much... well, Donnish.. all I can say.

I do say, I wish that if this show continues, they tone down Mikey's comic book geekness a little more. I get the idea, but he's gone overboard.

The one thing I kinda found disappointing was I really hoped that when they wheeled out that replacement body of Don's, I was kinda hoping for a Krang refference. It's been so long since I've seen a nod to the old series.

It was WONDERFUL to see the older characters again. Especially Casey. His absense really made the show hard for me to get into.

And here's some time theory:

Reguarding Mikey's story, wouldn't reading about the outcome of the fight make him change the outcome anyway? I mean, theoretically, if he were to read that something awful would happen, wouldn't that in turn change his outcome? Actually, that goes for all of them. If they knew about disaster, wouldn't they try to avert it, anyway? Thus the stories would have ended positively anyway.

But I like how they actually aknowledged the properties of time travel, the rules and regulations, and not just say, "Hey! We're in the future! Let's party!!!" like they've been doing the beginning of the show.

Of course, if they didn't want to know about their futures in the past, why did Cody tellDon about Donnatellium?

creativerealms82 12-09-2006 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 446401)
All of it was a fabrication anyway, not to mention the Turtles seemingly also forgot that the Tribunal were dead

Hah, proof positive this episode was crap, could'nt get the show's own continuity right

Who knows if the Tribunal can truely die. Since all the lost season hasn't aaired and only the writers and a secelt few knows what fully happened unless you are one of those select few you can't say they got their
continuity wrong.

They could have gotten it right and we just have not seen the Tribunial return. No wait that can't be because we need to bash Fast Forward even when there is no reason to.

God like their are not enough reasons to bash this show already you have to pull ones out of you ass.

Jo Dawn 12-09-2006 04:15 PM

I was fairly curious about this episode (I had to work), but...



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Oh man, stuck on a desserted island for 3 years with a bare butt naked Casey.
This comment alone was almost enough to scare me into not watching it. :P

TerranigmaFreak 12-09-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn (Post 446443)
This comment alone was almost enough to scare me into not watching it. :P

Yeah, they got teleported onto a desserted island but their cloths didn't teleport with them...

X 12-09-2006 05:11 PM

Zarius, it's pretty obvious the continuity is just fine. Splinter made up way offbeat stories to fool the Turtles. After reading a lot of your posts I'm surprised you still watch the show. I know if I have that much negative to say about a show (EVERY SINGLE REALITY SHOW,) I just do myself a stress free favor... And don't watch them. Poof problem solved bro.

If you don't like FF by now, I almost 100% gaurentee you, you'll never get into it, or it won't have anything for ya.

-X-

Warhorse 12-09-2006 05:15 PM

The episode wasn't bad, but I didn't like how Raph was leading Casey around on the roof by the hand. That was just wrong.


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