4Kids Cease "Development Of New Shows"
 

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This is legit stuff here. One Peice is already cancelled

Now I know why there splitting Fast Forward in two, this is it folks. I'm calling it right now.

Please don't let this affect the Ninja Tribunal DVD set. *prays*

Shouldn't this be a good thing for the turtles though? I mean if 4Kids isn't going to make new shows, that means they will have to focus on shows they already have right? Or did I take this the wrong way? Is 4Kids going off the air?

yowza meyowza this is not good...not good at all..:| :x :dead:

I think its only One Piece though,

and the ninja trubunal was finished so it won't affect it, the dvd was already delayed though.

though didn't murphy said there were some early talks to see if someone picked up a new tmnt?

It's not.

Might be referring to a series continuation under a new animation team, like the original series with Red Sky. CW would be a good spot for it, as it's the place for ratings grabbers like The Batman and SASDGAC

CW? You mean Kids WB?

This is great news, shut those bastards down. Once they fall on their ass some other company will come up and take on all these shows. And then maybe TMNT will be able to thrive. Or it and everything on the network will be trashed. With a possibility of it being re-birthed later on a new network/Saturday Morning slot.

So it's not just TMNT that's doing bad! It's the other shows to. So it's quite possible TMNT is doing bad because no one knows to watch it. You turn on 4Kids and you see WINX Club you cringe and change the channel. So you never see that ad that tells you when TMNT is going to be on.

It's not TMNT it's these other crap shows that people are watching. This is turning the potential adult audience away from the series to. Hell I know a few adults who would watch TMNT every Saturday if they knew it was on, or when it was on.

I dont see how this says TMNT is cancelled. All it said was One Peice. Plus it says new 'shows', not new 'episodes'. Theres a difference. I mean i'll agree, with this news it doesnt look that good for TMNT, but i still don't see anything confirmed.

A 4kids representive confirmed it in the e-mail.

No new shows means no new seasons of anything, TMNT is a show, Sigma Sux is a show, no new shows mean no new seasons, that's why they split FF in two.

So does this mean 4Kids TV is being phased out? Because if thats the case, good riddance. Those bastards screwed the TMNT out of the proper ratings, that network deserves to die.

I don't think you're interpeting that correctly. 4kids wants to focus on their own shows rather than licensed ones.

4kids renewed 4kidsTV for another two years on Fox, so they have another year of 4kidsTV in September. You think they're not going to have anything new besides 13 eps of FF and their other junk?

It is very possible that after the last 13 eps of FF and the 12 eps of Ninja Tribunal that the series is done, but who knows if the movie will revive interest or whatnot.

Even if it does 4Kids could still can the show, and then Laird would have to move networks. Just wish he wasn't contract bound to 4Kids or he could have a long time ago.

Is that even possible for the show to remain in continuity with the 2k3 series but be developed by a different company and have the same voice actors and writers and everything?

Well Dong Woo is who animates the show, I'm not so sure 4Kids owns them.

Some one help me out here, I know there's shows that have been canned and re birthed on other networks.

That all depends on the terms of their agreements. Only the individuals involved would know. The common answer is that the rights to the series could conceivably be sold, but certain changes in crew would be likely inevitable due to public relations issues. I'm not familliar with any other television distributor associated with Dong Woo Animation. But, if 4Kids discontinues Dong Woo's obligation... Never say never. ;)

Well Dong Woo is owned by no network they do these shows

* Animal Yokocho
* Akazukin Cha Cha
* Baby Looney Tunes
* BAStOF Lemon
* The Batman
* The Boondocks
* Jackie Chan Adventures
* Justice League
* Justice League Unlimited
* Olympus Guardian
* Ozzy & Drix
* Static Shock
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003)
* Teen Titans
* Ultimate Avengers
* Uniminipet

I got this from Wiki so I don't know if it's totally accurate but there ya go.

It would be nice if Mirage can somehow work a deal with another company if 4kids does indeed end the show after FF.

I'd hate to see them lose everything they built up from all these seasons, because if another new TMNT cartoon comes down the road we'd be back to square 1 again and have continuity restarted in a brand new cartoon. I don't think I can tolerate watching the Turtles meet April for the first time yet AGAIN. :roll:

I'm sure Laird would also want to see the Tales Vol. 2 comics and some of Volume 4 adapted into eps as well. Would be nice for another company to return them to the present after FF, (unless the Turtles do indeed get back to the present in the last ep of FF), and continue from there.

Umm... yeah. Whatever. Shows are "crap" just cause you don't like 'em, I take it?
Winx Club has been rather good, IMO. As have other shows on the 4KidsTV block.

The best shows on 4Kids besides TMNT reruns are those great images talking about cereal and offering the chance to win PSPS.

There called "commercials", they do suffer from reruns though

WINX is W.I.T.C.H (Watered-down Idiots Torture Children's Happyness)

Yeah pretty much, GI Joe is crap, WinX Club is crap, One Piece is crap. Yes I think these shows are crap. I dislike these shows. So yes their crap. Maybe you don't think they are, fine but I'm not here to state your opinions I'm here to state mine, and mine is WinX Club sucks.

If Dong Woo were a woman I'd totally bury my seed in her.

I love their animation style.

Doug
Biker Mice From Mars
Home Movies

That's all I can think of right now.

Wow, I had no idea the two best cartoons of the modern era were animated by the same studio.

In all hopes 4Kids goes down CN picks up on TMNT and pick up where the 2k3 series left off

Winx Club > Fast Forward.

It's the only 4K show I watch.

hahaha I thought it was a pretty well known fact that most of the stuff on 4kids and the fox box was completer crap?:lol:
I'd like to know why everyone thinks cartoon network is so great?
It's come to my attention that they screw over their shows just as much as fox and 4kids do..so I don't see all the love for cartoon network.:ohwell:

People like CN so much because they think TMNT will end up on Adult Swim and become "Edgy" and "cool" in reality the most they would do is re-run it like they did with the series when they had it before*And dropped it if you remember*

Ah Ic well while adult swim does have some good programs I highly doubt they would bring Ninja Turtles into the line up.
No one takes the Turtles seriously besides us fans and even then I wonder heh.
I really think the turtles would be best on kids wb on on an evening line up on the wb to me the next step after fox would be wb not cartoon network.
Oddly enough I think more folks would watch the show on wb rather than say the fox box the show needs to be on a tv chanel that every who doesn't have cable can watch it.

That's so funny because I hate them from the bottom of my heart. :lol: To each their own.

I would love it if it were on kids WB. I'd even put up with the TMNT in those gay little promos they do if it means getting my favorite show back.

you never know it may be in the neer future what with them making the movie and all.

I'll pretty much put this to bed right now, myself.

If 4Kids goes bankrupt (which is inevitable) I do not want them to continue the current TMNT...

Here's why. I'd love to see some sort of Maxx/Spawn type TMNT show, based entirely off the comics. No crazy catchphrases, no wacky personalities, no color co-ordinated masks, basically just the original Mirage comic animated. And of course, I'd love to say they'd have special guest writers, much like their old cartoon series. Maybe random episodes based off the random storylines. Like Zuli type epsisodes one week, a Hedden/McWenie (sp?) style show the next. Something like that.

But all I can say is 4Kids doesn't know business if it hit them on the butt singing the "Let's talk about business" song. They destoryed the chances of a hugely popular series from Japan... they made a cartoon based off a video game that didn't even come out until November... they sold their souls semi-unsuccessfully to the idiot tweenage girl demographic... and TMNT has lackluster ratings, and it's their anchor show.

The unfair disadvantage is cable. No doubt about it. Not everyone can afford cable. This is why all networks and syndication have pulled any children's programming off the afternoon line up in favor of bullcrap Small Claims court garbage and talk shows starring nobodies, like Greg Berherher or whatever.

Now, I do admit, I do like their dub of Kirby. I dunno why. Their dub of Ultimate Muscle wasn't bad, considering Toei already effed the cartoon up. No wonder no one likes it. But other than that, One Piece was hacked to death and put on crappy time slots, and I dunno what happened to Shaman King. Did it really end like that? I dunno. And I'm still pissed they didn't give Funky Cops a chance. I can't believe that hillarious send up of the 1970's was made by the same B.S. animation studio that made Winx. but then again, this explains why they didn't take Monster Allergy. Then again, maybe the fact it's just Danny Phantom mixed with Fosters Home for Imaginary Monsters put them off.

I'm really guessing this has a LOT to do with Nintendo getting greedy and self dubbing Pokemon. What do you think?

Well The Maxx show was canned before it even got close to the whole point of the comic, and they tried to cram that truth into the last episode.

The Spawn show, if I remember correctly, started shy away from the comic story a bit and go do it's own thing. But I could be wrong.

Anyways a TMNT show with red masks would be quite boring in my opinion. The color gives personality. In the comics they don't need the colors their in black and white. But in a TV series it seems more necessary. There is a reason the colors were kept. They could have done red when the new series came out but they chose to use the same colors again.

Also watching a moving comic gets boring. I love The Maxx show, the Hellsing show is cool to but I read the comic, I read the manga already. An exact copy of it starts to put me to sleep. Cool to see it move and all but pointless at the same time because it's so similar. I might as well just read the comic.

Why I like the new series is they took comic stories but changed them up enough to make them somewhat a new tale.

Maybe, but that's no reason to make their weapons color-coordinated.

yea this is true I can see that in you're user icon over there.
So um I sadly didn't even notice in the 2k3 show that the weapons were color-coordinated guess I really didn't care.:|

Actually, I didn't really know too much about the Maxx and Spawn shows. I was giving a rough example. Something more edgy for adults on another network.

I also really wish they'd do the same for The Tick, especially since that live action one bombed.

Anyway, if they're still on for 2 more years, and they aren't making any new shows of any kind, do you think that maybe after FF is done with, we'll finally see the Lost Tribunal eps?


Funny thing... I bet they would have animated TMNT anyway if Kid's WB did it. Also, notice Jackie Chan in there. I noticed a similarity in style. Plus, there is a brief refference to Casey Jones in the Halloween episode of the Oni Mask saga. At one point they hold his EXACT hockey mask.

I wouldn't mind seeing a short Mirage-based series. One that only means to be 13 epsiodes or so - adapt the best stories and put their best effort into the quality. The downside is it'd be over all too soon - but hopefully what would come out would be absolutely awesome.

I like the colored masks also... but I think with voice actors and even subtle design differences from turtle to turtle, it'd be pretty easy to figure out who's who even without their weapons. I'd like to see the all-red-masks idea tried in animation at least once.

WOAH!! I forgot about that, but that's no reason to e a smart-ass :P

oh there's always a reason to be a smart ass hahaha:lol:

Um all the anime news site say only new episodes of One Piece are being stopped not every show of 4Kids.