Batman TAS Question
 

I got the Volume 1 set of the Batman TAS series and I'm watching the first episode. Well it doesn't feel very first at all it feels like I'm in the middle of the series. Anyways I looked up an episode guide online and checked the chapters on my DVD and noticed their both totally different.

So are these episodes all out of order? What's the deal? Were they aired out of order and this is how they were intended to be viewed?

EDIT: Alright now I KNOW this is out of order because the next episode had Robin in it and I clearly remember there being one where he finds Robin before hes in the series. Any clue as to why they put them on a set out of order? The Batman Beyond sets were all in order.

Yeah, all those episodes? There actually in production order, not episode order.

Damn, why would they bother releasing an out of order set, that's just stupid. Hope it doesn't mess up any story elements for me. I plan on getting the whole series. Then again I guess if I watch it all it will all make sense.

I watched the 2K3 TMNT out of order and I faired just fine.

If I remember right the episode were man bat appears is the first one.

That was the first on the DVD too. So far the episodes seems to be fine, the only Robin one was that Christmas episode. Honestly I didn't like the Robin episodes as much. Batman is more bad ass alone.

From what I remember, the episode "To be a Clown" was the first episode to air that included the Joker, but that DVD set if I read correctly, "Joker's Favor' is the first Joker episode to air. Kinda sucks being out of order. I remember the Scarecrow episode being the first to air, but then again, I think I missed the debute episode, so Scarecrow may of been the 2nd episode to air.

wait what was the first episode on the dvd? leather wing?

Out of order or not this show is nothing short of amazing. The story lines are so dark and depressing. I love it. How was this a children's show? The Two Face episode is great, good example of a dark episode. And "It's Never Too Late" Amazing as well

I remember alot of these episodes so far. I watched these the most as a kid. I think most of the 2nd volume I probably saw to. But Around when WB took the show over I stopped watching it. I didn't like the little kid Robin. But after seeing Batman Beyond. I'm getting them all.

I was like that too. I hated Tim Drake (although Teen Titans made me like him), and I hated all the new character designs (especially Joker and Batman. Scarecrow had a whicked cool design though).

Yes, this was (and still is) quite a series. I already have all 4 DVD Sets of it. Though haven't watched many from the Sets yet, since had seen most (if not all) back in the day. But likely get around to watching more of them in time.

Another classic would be "Heart of Ice", Mr. Freeze's first ep., a real 'chilling' (yes, pun intended) episode.

The Kids WB era (which is all on Vol. 4) had some good episodes, too.

I'm watching "Heart Of Ice" Right now actually. Very dark episode. Man I wish TV shows were this good now of days. Even live action ones can't really compete with this.

I love how all of his villains*For the most part* are just tortured men who really aren't bad people they were just driven to evil with the way the world has treated them. And some aren't evil by will either.

I hear ya Spit. Stuff like "Camp Lazlo" and "My Gym Partner is a Monkey" isn't exactly good quality material. :dead:

Back to Batman. I just love the animated series and how they pushed the barrier of a "kid's show". The psycological issues I especially love. But what must be my favorite episode so far is actually in the spin off series, The New Batman Adventures, with "Mad Love". It explained why Harley was so madly in love with the Joker, and how she came to be. I personally just love how she just broke down and joined up with him in the end.

It's a shame that the new series isn't pushing it as much now, possibly in fear of the soccar moms storming the studio with protests of trauma and terror for their kids. Or targeting at a younger audience. You can never tell these days *shrugs*

The Batman was a nice attempt at makeing new origens for villians, but it failed badly in mostly all aspects. Joker can never be as good as Mark Hamill. Batman himself sucks. And on top of that, I can only watch this series on CN, which took 2 years to even begin showing Season 2, and cut it off Toonami, and replaced it with Teen Titans re-runs right after the episode where Clayface showed up in Season 2...damn WB for not airing in my town...

The Batman's versions of Clayface and The Riddler are awesome. Seasons Two and Four are the best of the series, and it's already elevated itself above standard children's levels. Episodes like "Strange New World" and "Seconds" go places Over The Edge only went in a dream state. "Seconds" goes ahead and deals with everything in the real world and then restarts the events after wowing the audience.

Well, to be honest, the production order is actually more coherent than the airdate order (which had two-parters broken up with stand-alone episodes in-between and crap like that).

The only real glaring anomoly in the production order is "Christmas with the Joker". Barring that, the episodes are all in perfect continuity order (no villains appearing before their origins, the Ra's Al Ghul arc remains in perfect sequence, etc).


The New Batman Adventures is a little weird, once you get to it. THe series premiered with a holiday episode that doesn't take place until later in the season. It features Calyface (before he was reformed by chemical waste) as well as Tim Drake before his origin episode.

But that's the only bit of weirdness in the TNBA set, aside from needing the Superman TAS season 2 set to compliment it, since the continuity of the two shows was rather intertwined.

Makes sense so far yes, but the 2 Robin episodes being in there seemed stupid to me. There's only 2 the whole DVD. I just don't get the point of that.

I love Batman TAS. It's a masterpiece of a series. Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, The Zeta Project, and Justice League continue the tradition of excellence too. I recomend all of them. I would think Zeta Project will start on DVD after the last season of Beyond comes out. A lot of series are put on DVD in production order. But TAS is pretty stand alone, don't forget to watch the movies too - Mask of the Phantasm, Subzero, World's Finest, and Mystery of the Batwoman too. Revenge of the Joker is a must see too.

I like what I've seen of The Batman so far. It's a good show. I enjoyed the Ridder/Dectective Yin , Batgirl intro, and Robin's past episodes most recently. One of these days I'm going to have to rent the whole seasons. I keep missing them on Sat. due to recording TMNT. I still prefer Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil's voice acting though.

Rino Romano will always be Spider-Man to me. I'll admit I was all "WTF!?" along withe evryone else when it was announced, but he's been pretty good. And since the point of the series was a younger Batman...at least we didn't get somebody who just put on a rasp and called it a day.

I just associate Conroy with BTAS too much to imagine him in the comics. Since buying JLHeros, I keep hearing Ron Pearlman's voice whenever I read the comics. Conroy gets the Year One and other early years stuff though. Most sevintes stuff to.

Yeah, like the dude said, be sure to watch "SubZero" BEFORE you watch The New Batman Adventures. If you don't, the Mr. Freeze episode will leave you all "WTF?"


And Rino Ramano's Batman isn't so bad. People keep saying he has a Spanish accent, but I don't hear it.

Now, the voice over that's REALLY awesome is Kevin Michael Richardson's Joker. Yeah yeah, I love Mark Hamill, he's still the best and blah blah blah.

But KMR is awesome, too. I remember when I first heard he was the Joker I was completely skeptical. KMR is best known for having a comically deep voice and usually playing "Barry White" characters. I thought he was going to be awful. Then I watched The Batman vs. Dracula and got to hear the man's range; it's incredible. He did a really good job with the character.

I saw the Batman Beyond episode of JLA. DL'd the whole damn series just to see it. Took forever but yeah.

I can't say it wasn't worth it because I HAD to know what happened but honestly I would have preferred they brought Beyond back...Terry's origin wasn't stupid. It made more sense then It thought it would and didn't leave any stupid plot holes.

I loved the references to Batman TAS. Like the chick from Mask Of The Phantasm, The Grey Ghost movie, and at the end when they do the airplane scene from the very first episode of Batman. Classic.

Yeah, he's at his best in the Strange Minds episode.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF...nds/01head.mp3
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF...inds/03out.mp3
And of course, one of Romano's best performances as the dark knight...

Robin's Reckoning was a very awesome Robin episode. IIRC it was nominated for an Emmy. In my opinion that episode shows that in the right hands Robin can be an awesome character. In the wrong hands, we get Batman and Robin and Batman Forever (Forever wasn't god-awful but had plenty of room for improvement).

If I had to list my top five:
1)Two-Face
2)Heart of Ice
3)Robin's Reckoning
4)Feat of Clay
5)I am the Night

That last season was not on par with the rest of the series. It had some good episodes but the completely un-necessary character re-designs and some of the worst episodes in the series make it look like crap compared to the rest of the show.

I still like it don't get me wrong but the series finial wasn't very finial feeling, Two-Face Batman's last villain? Please. Also they used Penguin*Who I never liked much anyways*,Joker, and Poison Ivy a billion times and we see Bane once, in a dream, and Mr. Freeze only once too. Plus Scarecrow*Who was one of the re-designs I enjoyed* wasn't use that much either. Riddler was in it for 2 scenes.

But make way for Batman's new villains! The Creeper -_- That guy was so annoying, and creating a villain before the last episode should be against some rule. Don't get me started on Roxy Rocket I hated her the most.

The Super-man series Batman/Super-man crossover was good. "Girl's Night Out" was one of the worst episodes of the series, Livewire was so annoying. So was the horrid Holiday Special where Bruce is kidnapped and forced to buy clothes for Harley and Ivy. Also why the hell were there 3 animal based episodes in a row? Stupid, Batman VS giant farm animals! Now a giant cat! Batman Vs Bears! Stupid...

But that aside I loved some of them, "Legends of the Dark Knight" was a kick ass episode. For one I was happy to see they re-used Firefly cause I liked that villain and then the stories were cool. The 50's got annoying but the 80's story was awesome. That had to be what Frank Miller had to do with the episode. "Never Fear" was great to, watching Batman go psycho. I also loved "Over The Edge" total Batman manhunt cool stuff. Nightwing was cool to see in action in the episodes he was in. There was a lot of blood in it and plenty of bullets, ahh I miss bullets.

Now I just need to get volume 3*Which I ordered* and I'll have the whole series.

Behold...The Batman vs something out of Evangelion
I mean, Rino Romano vs Ron Perlman
I mean, The Batman Season 4: Episode 11: Rumors

O_O What did they do to Kill Croc! His voice is so lame.

Yeah, that's Perlman trying to sound like a Cajun, while Matsuda ripped off Jim Lee's Crock design from Hush.

I didn't mind what they did to Killer Croc so much, truthfully. I have a low tolerance for villains that are borderline retarded, intellect-wise. Making him smarter was a welcomed change.

And I liked Jim Lee's Killer Croc design, so that didn't bug me either.

I think this is the first time they've used the old "Crazy vigilante who tries to kill the criminals while Batmans tries to stop him" idea in this series. But it's pretty cool how they got into one big villian fight. And that whole Penguin scene is gold.

I must of missed what you guys are talking about. Arey ou saying Croc turned into a vigilante?

Sweet Christ no. Watch the episode. You know, the three YouTube links I posted?

That shows to kiddy, seriously they don't make any dark cartoons anymore. TMNT tried but they canned it. It's either make due with the crap we get now or accept 2-D animation as a dead art

I couldn't tell those were youtube links. I usually don't go around clikcing random links unless there was an explaination. Behold and I mean and I mean weren'r much to go on.

They didn't pique your curiosity?

I'll admit the first and third seasons suked, but it's not that bad. It's as Batmanish as it can be in that enviroment. You know, the age group that isn't eighteen and above?

Shark's simply someone far too disgruntled and biased to give anything that's not Batman: TAS a chance. His line about "no dark cartoons anymore" is also certified bulls*it, Teen Titans and SRMTHFG are as dark as they come when there not using the anime style for comedic effect.

Got that right! I mean really: look at TT's "Birthmark", or any of TT and SRMTHFG's Season-Finales -- just for starters.

Praise this.
Now.
Seriously, I couldn't give less of a crap about the Riddiler, and this makes me love him.

Shark's pathological fear of weblinks is'nt going to help you there Spawn:)

But yes, to prove him wrong yet again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNFddqFZ3Ic

Death. And lots of it.

So should we not post any and all clips of The Batman vs Dracula? With all the action, blood, and the best Joker design in history?

Darn.

Now for a rarity: The Batman TAS Pilot with its ORIGINAL audio track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Ed18tf0G8

Either I forgot something that I posted, or your just makeing up crap completely. And I never said 'no dark cartoons anymore', unless I was being sarcastic.

TT is especially dark, mainly the first, late 2nd, and forth seasons.