The Grammys Make Me Sick
 

Ugh, now I don't want to sound close minded or anything but it bothers me to no end to see that they don't recognize or even acknowledge metal. All the bands they do are already popular they just make them more popular by giving them an award.

"Here Justin Timberlake, you sing like a girl and your new album is musically unimpressive and took no music talent what so ever to make but have an award anyway!"

Yes I heard his CD, 4 times at work during an over nighter*I didn't get to pick music* it's garbage. Yeah maybe he's a good singer but music is more then just a voice. In fact music can be music without singing, but it can't be music with just singing.

I'm sick of that crap. The music in the US sickens me. At least in Europe good bands get recognized. When Iron Maiden plays in Sweaden they make an event out of it and broadcast it on TV for everyone to see. When they come here we shove them into a semi-big place that has seats and a small lawn. Yet we air the new Nickel Back concert. Since when did they have musical talent?

Sorry ranting again...what do you guys think of this awards show? As you can see I hate it, at least the Academy Awards recognizes Indie flims and underground stuff has a chance at winning even best picture. The Grammy's seems like a one sided, unfair contest where only what's popular wins anything.

"Eligable recordings are entered by the Recording Industry Association of America"

The Grammy Awards are owned and operated by the Recording Industry Association of America, which basically means Sony, Warner, and Universal. It's basically a promotional show, nothing more. None of the awards mean anything, and if you're not in the club, you don't get included in nominations.

I watch it for performances, over half of which suck, and that's being polite. Don't take award shows seriously. They're all for the same thing.

I am glad though that the Dixie Chicks got to rub sh*t in the face of America. This fu*king country had it coming, and they earned it.

Oh yeah, we in Europe totally recognize quality music. Totally. Here's the top 10 single charts from Germany. Notice how it's all Metallica, Iron Maiden, Kaurismäki and Sigur Ros.

To get yourself a better picture of how the current chartleaders, Tokio Hotel, sound... Here's all their metal-goodness to fully appreciate. And here's a picture to see their metalness as clear as daylight:


Grammies this, Metal that, we're no better than the USA. So please stop making baseless assumptions and tell people how things are done in Europe when there's actual Europeans around.

And we all know that the Grammies are nothing but the music industry having a big boost for their ego. Like the Oscars.

I'm more referring to Sweaden and Finland, where the bands I like get into at least the top 3 in the charts when a CD comes out over there.

I did a report on those countries and studied them. The US copies Swedish style all the time*I'm not talking just music, clothing, furniture you name it*, and the US metal bands all try and rip off the Swedish ones. So I guess I'm not referring to Europe as a whole as I am the Northern part.

And yeah a lot of Euro-metal bands are now trying the US style and they have singing parts and their music has downgraded to suck level as well. That band you posted looks like a prime example of that one.

EDIT: Wow...that band is terrible

For someone who's studied the northern part, you sure do know a lot about "Sweaden". Top 40 from Sweden. Notice all the metalness.

And here's Finland with a ton of metalness!. We have Iron Maiden on 14. So that makes them what? The fourteenth most appreciated band in Finland? That's what I call worthy of a grammy.

Come on, you don't know jack about how it is in Europe, just forget it. Stylish influences this, copying that, that all might be true, but it's not like Metal is the thing over here.

Listen, Anarky...you just live there! What do you know, man? NOTHING! He studied for school and sh*t! Back off afore I knock ya!

*asplodes*

No it isn't but it's allot more appreciated then it is in the US. I'm not saying it stomps the charts just stating the bands get better treatment over there*Like the venues they play in* and bands like Dark Tranquility can break top 3 in the charts.

I don't have the post they did with the link but they made it and I know other bands did as well. Yeah they didn't stay there but at least the week their CD was released they made it.

I think you mis-understood what I studied. I studied their past, culture, and fashion. Not their music, the music I gathered from checking the bands websites. I see when their new albums come out if they hit the charts they make a post about it on their site.

Yeah, an auditorium of a school for a metalband definitely is way better than what the USA offers the bands. Only the really big ones get something that could be considered a place to hold concerts. But then you gotta be like the Beatles. Famous, everyone likes you, successful and all that.

And don't tell me that this isn't true, I have seen metal bands perform in places that are a little bigger than a garage. The concerts were awesome, but treating the bands well? Nah, forget it. The only really big thing we have over here is the Wacken Open Air, or Roskilde, but that's once a friggin' year. There are plenty of other open airs but they're all not as good as Wacken and/or Roskilde.

For your own sake, please stop talking about Europe and how it is over here. Please.

I always wanted to go to those music-fests, which bands I like get to play at as well. Over here we just have Ozzfest and it's so bad that it's free this year.

Yeah my Step Dad was stationed there and told me he saw alot of metal bands in small bars, but I've seen lot's of recorded shows and DVDs of the places these bands get to play and they look nicer then the places I see them at over here. Maybe it's the way their filmed but the venues look bigger.

Actual metal bands being in a music-fest alone is better treatment. Arch Enemy opened Ozzfest a few years ago. They could have headlined the 2nd stage but they stuck them in the very first 9 AM slot. That's bad treatment. So is Iron Maiden getting egged and spit on during on of their shows.

You know why Metal bands play in dingy places? Cause no one wants to see them. Oh, snap!

Doesn't surprise me, but when they sell out the same smaller places year after year they do play at I don't see the harm in trying to put them into a bigger place. Then again I see all my shows in San Fran*The birthplace of thrash metal* so that might be why. The case might not be the same everywhere. I can try and judge venue size by videos I watch but I can't if I have nothing to look at. So I don't know how it is in the rest of the US.

Either way this is all terribly off topic, we were talking about the Grammys not Europe. If you guys still want to go on about it you can PM me, and educate me if you will. I don't claim to know everything and I'm sure you could tell me more then stuff I read off websites or heard from other people.

That's true, but you can never guarantee that they'll fill up that bigger place enough. This is exactly what the bands I listen to go through. No big, man! Our music of choice just doesn't resonate with the mainstream. I'd rather pay $15 to see my favourite bands than pay $50 to sit 1,000 feet away anyways.

I don't listen to music radio, so I haven't heard an overwhelming majority of the songs nominated. Still, I'm watching the show now just because I thought it'd be entertaining enough. But it's soooooo boring and unexciting. Blah.

Oh come on, man. Now you're just being foolish.

The DVDs you saw are just small factions of what really happens here. They're like the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, it's not all. You've seen a couple of tenyearold gigs on a DVD and whatnot, that's not all. Most metalbands still have to play in small places even while they're successful. Only the real crowdpleasers, like stuff you hear on the radio gets the good treatment with big arenas and whatnot.

And if you ever get to pick between Wacken and Roskilde, go to Wacken, because Wacken is just so much more awesome. Sure, you wade through kneedeep mud all the time and it's cold, wet and dirty, but once you've been there... I've been there twice with different girlfriends and I'll probably never forget it.

But generally, I wouldn't care too much about those award-shows.

I'll express my opinion on the Grammy awards with a scene from an early Simpsons episode:

Waiter: You wanted a bottle of champagne? [waits for tip]

Homer: Here you go [hands Waiter his Grammy]

Waiter: Wow!! Tha... Awww... It's just a Grammy!! [Throws Grammy over balcony]

Voice From Street: Hey!! Don't throw your garbage down here!!

I've heard a lot of good stories about Wacken. I'd like to get over there sometime and experience it for myself.

Lots of other genres besides metal are skipped over by the grammies. Awards shows...are all about country and pop :ohwell:

And I live in Nashville....immediately your mind goes to honky tonks and country music, right? I think more folks here in Nashville proper listen to R&B and Rap and Latin music than anything. You have to really get down into Franklin and Brentwood to the "richer" folks before you start hearing Country as a sole preference

It is all about shameless promotion and ego stroking, as was mentioned before. No sense getting all upset about it....just stop watching. I know I don't. :)

just like any other show I know is going to be full of trite rubish that I don't care for I DON'T WATCH IT!!

Oh come on, you don't think Acapella is music?

DOO WOP DOO WOP DOOO WAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Guys! Guys! You all know all these crappy awards are just about popularity. The Emmys, Grammys, Oscars.... all the same thing. It's a popularity contest. Well, the Oscars tries to be "ooh! Look how sophisticated we are. We watch movies about political things and pretend to take sides." but it winds up giving an award to Shrek. I like Shrek, but that really didn't deserve to win over monsters Inc. Come to think of it, Jimmy Neutron shouldn't have even been nominated.

but that's what you get. Punk, heavy metal, blues... they're all under the rug. That's cuz the only thing that sells is pop music. Pop rock, pop rap, pop country.... all that stuff.

So of course, they're gonna give more time to Justin Timberlake than B.B King or someone like that. That's what unfortunately sells.

At least Wolfmother got an award. They're pretty overhyped right now (which is probably why they got the award in the first place) but they're still an excellent rockband.

Damn it Anarky, did you have to post that Tokio Hotel picture? I was this close to forgetting them.

I guess I should stick my foot in my mouth, there was a metal award I guess I didn't know about. Slayer won for one of the crappy songs off their new CD. Oh well atleast it's there. I honestly thought they had done away with it because I looked up the winners of them and I didn't see it.

The list did look short. oh wells.

Was there an award for Ska? Never! I'll never die happy!

Aw damn Peanut, your life will never be complete without the record industry telling you what the best band in your favorite genre is.

Yeah I know I went off like a moron about it. The point of it all really was I want bands to get more recognized but I didn't point that out so it just looked like a stupid rant about almost nothing. I was rather hyper when I typed that.

lolz! Nah. I was just playing around. It would be nice for someone, somewhere, to acknowledge that Ska even still exists, but that might be asking a bit much.

Yeah I never noticed how many genres are over looked besides metal till I thought about it.

They need an award show that is done by votes on a website or something. Or is that how the MTV one works?

I live in Scandinavia, and Spitfire666 is right about that metal bands gets alot of attention in media, tv and radio, in Sweden and Norway, but that doesent mean they top the charts. Still crap like Gwen Stefani, Akon, Eminem and Justin Timberlake dominate the charts. Hell, right now the only metal band on the top 50 album charts in Norway is Manowar with a 48 place.
But now and then bands like Slayer, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Metallica, Dream Theater, Tool and Pantera do very well.
Last summer i think both Tool and Slayer had the top spot for several weeks.
And bands like Iron Maiden, Darkthrone, Enslaved and Satyricon were on among the top ten most selling artist the same summer.
So there is hope, but rap/hip hop and pop still puts metal in the shadow most of the time. The radio channels do most of the time play the same **** all over again, pop/hip hop, then repeat. I think the only metal song ivee heard on radio this year is Iron Maiden with "Run to the hills".
On tv, tv channels like ZTV, The Voice and MTV do more reality show about spoiled rich kids that complaint about how hard life is. And then old reruns of Jackass and then more braindead shows like Hogan knows best and The Osbournes. What happend to Music Television? The little time they have spent on music is when they do show american pop acts, english wannebe american pop acts and the worse Scandinavian wannebe pop acts.
The few times they play "metal" is when **** groups like Linkin Park and other nu metal mtv puppys show up with new stuff. What happend to Head bangers ball? Well there is a new version of Head Bangers ball, but all they do is play old Metallica and Iron Maiden videos over and over again.
Sometimes they have MTV Live, but what? The Killers? Snoop Dog? You got to be kidding me. 13 years ago bands like Pantera, Alice in chains, Nirvana, Anthrax and Iron Maiden played MTV Live, so why cant they send Live shows with real metal and rock acts? Becouse its MTV anno 2007, not 1994.

Blah, I have to agree. Grammy awards, Oscars, whatever else is out there...it's all a complete joke. No country on this rock is safe from it. It's just saying "and this year's fad of the year goes too..." on the silver screen. They also make a big deal out of it and screw up TV programs for the one night when there is something actually decent to watch on.

*mutters as she walks off, anger renewed and the desire to by a rocket tube fresh in her mind*

Move to CA. Ska is still big here.

So I've heard! A lot of great Ska bands come out of CA.