So why the hell did they do fast forward?
 

good lord this series is awful

When you find out, please explain their delusional mindset to me as well. Thanks in advance. ^_^

Do your research you two. Obviously, 4Kids wanted to bring a new light-hearted feel to the TMNT while also exploring the future like they envisioned for the TMNT--plus side is that they can walk around in public mind you. It was a way for them to depart from the ever-so-dark tales of the other four seasons and...not to mention come up with some appealing toys so Playmates would sell more figures and stuff.

the stories are awful.. it feels like nothing is rooted or grounded in TMNT history/mythos. I also always get the feeling that as soon as they get back to their timeline they will have undoubtedly change the future and all that stuff in the future won't matter anyway..

aww too many paradoxes to think about

surprises me they chose THIS year to do it, with the movie coming out

it feels like the same crap they did with batman to be, just total crap, 2k3 wasnt horrid but FF makes me want to gouge my eyes out

I think the theroy we can all agree is that it is a 20 minute slot for pure advertising, slapped together with a crap storyline. If things were as dark as they were in the original 2k3 show, this Fast Forward would probably be so much better. Unfortunately, 4Kids got there first. Oh, how I hate them...

How dare you speak ill of Batman Beyond!! And of course the 2k3 series isn't horrid, it's perhaps the best version of the TMNT!

yeah, i agree with you, lol dang people gotta be bashing the good stuff. and 2k3 is definitley one of the best if not the best version of tmnt, especially after seeing the season 5 (TLS)

Agreed.

Batman Beyond was such a great spinoff.. but the spinoff of Batman Beyond the zeta project was terrible.

Batman Beyond wasn't a spinoff. It's part of the Timm/Diniverse (Batman TAS, Gotham Knights, Beyond, and Justice League; yes, they're all connected) as a continuation of Batman TAS that happened in the future.

LMFAOOOOO @ the thread starter.

To answer your question: ratings, my friend. Fox wanted it, and they probably didn't get it.

Lol sorry.

Read the other 100 threads on fast forward to find the answer to your question. It has been thouroughly debated as to why FF took place.

I think thats a good thing. It would be very hard to do story lines around Bishop since hes a good guy in FF.

i cant stand that bishop guy
I hadn't seen him before FF

his voice actor really sounds um.........gay

and you sound ..umm...really intelligent

Trust me, if you saw him in the episodes before FF you would not be saying that. Hes arguably the best 2k3 villian. Er.... ex-villian.

No I meant the voice of the voice actor. Same voice actor right?

They sound the same to me, so I'm going to say "yes". The last I have heard, all of the original voices from the 2k3 series were used in Fast Forward. So...I'm going to say yeah, same Voice Actor.

I'll skip those episodes then

I've never had nor heard any complaints about Bishop's voice actor. And, it's still to be seen if he is reformed now. Like I said once upon a time, he was never fully a bad guy. He's a human-racist, but everything he's ever done was to ensure the safety of the human race... even when he pretended to abduct the President.
I really need to find that troll-repellent.

I've really noticed a huge trend all of the internet lately that everyone is being accused of being a troll.. as if it's some kind of red scare like the communist days or something.

I think BOTH Batman Beyond AND The Zeta Project rock.:D

And TMNT 2K3 is my favorite version of the TMNT (next to the first movie).

O_O A delusional troll? Uh-oh! Thing is, either start putting effort into making informed posts before launching into a 'this is stupid' rant, or get used to the label. ^_^ If it looks like a troll and types like a troll...
That's right. Proclaim your ignorance. :D

I hope you're joking about the troll thing

and proclaim my ignorance? Ignorance of WHAT?

TMNT was losing 4Kids and Fox Ratings and Money, they revamped the show to make it appeal more to children than all ages. It's as simple as that.

Bishop. Watch some older episodes before using a fairly dated way of describing someone's voice

What do you mean fairly dated? Would you prefer me to say homosexual?
Is there a new politically correct word for it that I don't about?

No. All he said was say "Watch some older episodes before claiming Bishiop's voice sounds gay/homosexual/queer/whatever-floats-your-boat".

Gay, homosexual, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you just watch some of Bishiop in 2k3 and then in Fast Forward before you start running around saying you think he sounds gay.

I'm not sure what you mean
do you mean he sounds different in the 2003 series than he does in fast forward?
I'm extremely homophobic so it's hard to watch

No, it's okay. Everyone has a fear. I guess the majority of us found it amusing when you said Bishop was gay :P

Bishop, as far as I know, is voiced by the same guy in Fast Forward and the 2k3 series. And he doesn't sound gay in the 2k3 series from what I know of. He looks too straight laced to be classified as gay, if you are going by character design, but he sounds quite like a soldier to me. Or a commando. If you watched him and heard his voice in the Lost Season, you know that anyone who is gay would sound like he does. Always gets to the point and doesn't go "Oh shut UP you!" with a girly giggle at the end. Definately not gay.

oh i meant the voice actor not the character

I know how you feal I'm extreamly heterophobic myself.:lol:

My fault. I thought you were trying to insult the character. Also, I think everyone was trying to say that the word gay is mostly used by people who can not come up with constructive critcism. I am not trying to see that your one of those people. Thats just the idea some people get when someone says that kind of thing.

Yeah too bad TMNT FF is a cartoon that is aimed towards little kids and not grown men and teenagers. FF is fun to watch, and little kids look up to the turtles because they are teenagers. So live with it or grow up, haha

so let me get this right? it's not ok to insult a character but millions of civilized real humans. I love the logic of people seriously I do.:lol:

I never said it was okay. I meant that it is okay to say someone sounds gay as long as it is not a personal attack. If the va sounds like a homosexual to blueoakleyz that is his opinion. As long as he is not going around saying he hates the guy because of this its fine.

oh my wow hahahahhahahahahahaha and it not ok it's the same thing as using the N word to describe some one and I'm not talking Ninja.
And the Line you just made about some one sounding like a Homosexual is even more insulting not all Gay people sound like that...god I hate out culture so much it needs to burn. Yay let's go stalk Britney shaving her butt this time.:lol:

Okay, you misunderstood me again but thats to be be expected with topics on race/sex/religion/politics. I never said all gay people sound like that. If you say someone sounds like a stereotype how is that wrong? Its their opinion. We all characterize people certain ways thats why things like race/sex/religion/ and politics exist. As long as we do not demean others for being different describing others a specific way is all good.
Now if you felt I said anything offensive I am truly sorry. Typing has its limits on expressing what someone has to say. I wish I had explained myself better in my earlier posts but I am a lazy guy. OOPS! Did I just place a stereotype on all lazy people. :P