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Time Mistress 03-24-2007 10:22 PM

We are lucky fans
 
I think it's safe to say at this point that most of us think this new movie pretty much rocks! The animation! The voice acting! All top notch! And I can't help but feel lucky and greatful that it turned out as well as it did. From the beginning Kevin has shown a dedication and true understanding of what makes the TMNT "work." And the result has been nothing short of a deserving shout of "cowabunga!"

I think this movie is a very important accomplishment not just for TMNT but in the bigger sense as well in a decade full of comic book movies and 80s nostalgia. TMNT will be considered up there with the X-Men and Spider-Man movies rather than the bottom with Hulk or Elecktra. As a fan of anything, you want to see it come out right on the big screen. But when it's a favorite, you worry that much more. I am scared to death to see what Transformers is going to be like on the big screen this summer (being the one franchise I have loved longer and more than TMNT.) But everything that Transformers seems to be doing wrong this year, I see TMNT doing right, movie wise anyway. (Though Transformers will have Peter Cullen which at least gurantees me seeing the film.)

I guess what I am trying to say is, in a year that has more movies that have me excited to see them more than any other year I can remember, I think I just saw the best movie of the year already on March 23rd, and it was TMNT. It's one thing to see a awesome movie from a franchise you like (Pirates, Spidey, Fantastic Four, Harry Potter), it's another to see a awesome movie from a franchise you LOVE like TMNT!

kerfootw 03-24-2007 10:28 PM

Indeed. I already toasted Munroe and the guys just recently but what the hey, I'll do it again. (raises glass)

Kunoichi_Haruko 03-24-2007 10:30 PM

I'll join you in shouting "COWABUNGA!!!"

Man, even though Kevin was bound by Warner Bros. stipulations, he did his damnest to make sure the Turtles got their due. And Imagi didn't slack, either. Here's hoping they both get more great projects in the future! ::raises glass::

Excellent job!

Ecto Jedi 03-24-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko (Post 482849)
I'll join you in shouting "COWABUNGA!!!"

Man, even though Kevin was bound by Warner Bros. stipulations, he did his damnest to make sure the Turtles got their due. And Imagi didn't slack, either. Here's hoping they both get more great projects in the future! ::raises glass::

Excellent job!

A sequel! A sequel should -- nay, must be made! Kudos to Munroe and his talented artists!

blueoakleyz 03-24-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Time Mistress (Post 482838)
I think it's safe to say at this point that most of us think this new movie pretty much rocks! The animation! The voice acting! All top notch! And I can't help but feel lucky and greatful that it turned out as well as it did. From the beginning Kevin has shown a dedication and true understanding of what makes the TMNT "work." And the result has been nothing short of a deserving shout of "cowabunga!"

I think this movie is a very important accomplishment not just for TMNT but in the bigger sense as well in a decade full of comic book movies and 80s nostalgia. TMNT will be considered up there with the X-Men and Spider-Man movies rather than the bottom with Hulk or Elecktra. As a fan of anything, you want to see it come out right on the big screen. But when it's a favorite, you worry that much more. I am scared to death to see what Transformers is going to be like on the big screen this summer (being the one franchise I have loved longer and more than TMNT.) But everything that Transformers seems to be doing wrong this year, I see TMNT doing right, movie wise anyway. (Though Transformers will have Peter Cullen which at least gurantees me seeing the film.)

I guess what I am trying to say is, in a year that has more movies that have me excited to see them more than any other year I can remember, I think I just saw the best movie of the year already on March 23rd, and it was TMNT. It's one thing to see a awesome movie from a franchise you like (Pirates, Spidey, Fantastic Four, Harry Potter), it's another to see a awesome movie from a franchise you LOVE like TMNT!

The animation (Well the art design, the animation-the way it all flowed was fine) was awful and cartoony but the voice actors, save for Buffy as April was all good. The story wasn't that bad either and it drew me in. And yeah, it's weird there are so many movies to go to this year. I've seen like 6 in the past 2 months when last year I only saw like 3. I even liked 300 which was written by frank miller and i HATED sin city.

ZariusTwo 03-24-2007 10:51 PM

Stop insitgating troll, your whining means nothing here

blueoakleyz 03-24-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 482888)
Stop insitgating troll, your whining means nothing here

So only positive opinions are allowed here?

Kunoichi_Haruko 03-24-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 482896)
So only positive opinions are allowed here?

Well, I'd say so. Think of it this way, blueoakleyz-- instead of the franchise fading away into oblivion, we have another chance for the Turtles to be shown again in theaters. Even if you don't agree with the art style, aren't you at least happy that you have an art style to criticize? C'mon dude-- The Turtles Are Back!!! Be thankful! Geez!

blueoakleyz 03-24-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko (Post 482903)
Well, I'd say so. Think of it this way, blueoakleyz-- instead of the franchise fading away into oblivion, we have another chance for the Turtles to be shown again in theaters. Even if you don't agree with the art style, aren't you at least happy that you have an art style to criticize?

Yeah, I liked the movie. But everyone should still be critical of things they don't like in life.

Ecto Jedi 03-24-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 482906)
Yeah, I liked the movie. But everyone should still be critical of things they don't like in life.

Dude, you're seriously raining on our parade here. :P

Kunoichi_Haruko 03-24-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz
Yeah, I liked the movie. But everyone should still be critical of things they don't like in life.

But what I'm saying is this isn't the thread for that. It's a "feel good" thread, see? We're happy we got a film---we're not debating whether CGI was a blessing or a curse. So kill the nonsense.

ZariusTwo 03-24-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 482906)
Yeah, I liked the movie. But everyone should still be critical of things they don't like in life.

Good, then I have no problem saying none of us like you.

VaughnMichael 03-24-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 482896)
So only positive opinions are allowed here?

no just zarius is the only one allowed to be negative on the technodrome..:lol:

Ecto Jedi 03-24-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 482923)
no just zarius is the only allowed to be negative on the technodrome..:lol:

...And Peanut. But he's gotten better lately.

VaughnMichael 03-24-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi (Post 482925)
...And Peanut. But he's gotten better lately.

to true I used to as well now I just feel as if everyones nagging me for why I don't like stuff do I really need a reason I don't like something I don't.
Some people think they are the lords and masters of turtledom.
I'm sick of explaining myself like 30 times to people.
We have to give reason why we like something but they don't have to when they say it just down right is stupid or sucks nice that to me is a troll.
I've been done with highschool for years I'd like to keep it that way.:goof:

Peanut 03-24-2007 11:10 PM

Firstly, Zarius...that post? Godly. I laughed for at least a minute straight. Second, thanks Ecto, I'm trying. :lol:

And this oakleyz dude? Tone it down, man. We all got your point, there are certain things about the movie you didn't like. That doesn't mean you need to say the same thing in every thread, alright?

As for the topic at hand, yes, we are very lucky. Take a look at how most of these revival things have gone. Just take one look at the Transformers movie. We were lucky enough to get people involved in this project who cared, who knew what they were doing, and who wanted to, above all, please the fans.

Masked Ninja 03-24-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 482882)
The animation (Well the art design, the animation-the way it all flowed was fine) was awful and cartoony but the voice actors, save for Buffy as April was all good. The story wasn't that bad either and it drew me in. And yeah, it's weird there are so many movies to go to this year. I've seen like 6 in the past 2 months when last year I only saw like 3. I even liked 300 which was written by frank miller and i HATED sin city.

Question: You said in another thread that you wanted a movie more like the old cartoon. And yet, you think the design for the movie was too cartoony? I find this hard to put together in my mind, care to elaborate?

Though I would agree with you a little on the human characters... can't work out why but they were a tad too catoony for me. I think it must be the acting quality in the animation... Pixar can pull off those kind of designs because the visual acting is very realistic. But in TMNT it was often as cartoony as the designs, with exceptions here and there.

I still adore the turtles' designs, though. Some of their wide grins reminded me a lot of early Mirage, and I love their builds... since they're short characters, they can be lean with some funky proportions and still look tough... as well as looking capable of sweet acrobatics.

VaughnMichael 03-24-2007 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja (Post 482986)
Though I would agree with you a little on the human characters... can't work out why but they were a tad too catoony for me. I think it must be the acting quality in the animation... Pixar can pull off those kind of designs because the visual acting is very realistic. But in TMNT it was often as cartoony as the designs, with exceptions here and there.

I still adore the turtles' designs, though. Some of their wide grins reminded me a lot of early Mirage, and I love their builds... since they're short characters, they can be lean with some funky proportions and still look tough... as well as looking capable of sweet acrobatics.

I may not be blue but for me it was the large eyes I didn't understand that one I think that was the thing making them look like bratz dolls but mostly april.
I was fine with how max looked but I think that mostly had to do with the fact that he was a new character we had never seen before.

blueoakleyz 03-24-2007 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja (Post 482986)
Question: You said in another thread that you wanted a movie more like the old cartoon. And yet, you think the design for the movie was too cartoony? I find this hard to put together in my mind, care to elaborate?

Though I would agree with you a little on the human characters... can't work out why but they were a tad too catoony for me. I think it must be the acting quality in the animation... Pixar can pull off those kind of designs because the visual acting is very realistic. But in TMNT it was often as cartoony as the designs, with exceptions here and there.

I still adore the turtles' designs, though. Some of their wide grins reminded me a lot of early Mirage, and I love their builds... since they're short characters, they can be lean with some funky proportions and still look tough... as well as looking capable of sweet acrobatics.

Like most things in life, it's complex and isn't a simple "either have it this or way or don't". To make it simple though I would have preferred a live action movie that involved Krang.

The human characters were just non proportional and looked really bad. Perhaps it was for the best that they said "Screw it lets just make them cartoony so people will know that's what they were going for" because if they had gone for realistic, even if something slight was off/inaccurate, humans are adept at noticing even if they don't know exactly WHAT it is they're noticing. Ever see something and say "That doesn't look quite right... I can't put my finger on why though"? So maybe that's what they thought.. I'd still prefer realistic humans.

Fledermaus 03-24-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 483010)
Like most things in life, it's complex and isn't a simple "either have it this or way or don't". To make it simple though I would have preferred a live action movie that involved Krang.

The human characters were just non proportional and looked really bad. Perhaps it was for the best that they said "Screw it lets just make them cartoony so people will know that's what they were going for" because if they had gone for realistic, even if something slight was off/inaccurate, humans are adept at noticing even if they don't know exactly WHAT it is they're noticing. Ever see something and say "That doesn't look quite right... I can't put my finger on why though"? So maybe that's what they thought.. I'd still prefer realistic humans.

We get it. Please go away. Don't you have a thread for people who didn't enjoy the movie? This is a celebration thread, not an analysis thread.

And I agree with Masked One on the humans. Actually, I think the human acting for April was fairly good in the campfire scene. I really liked that part.

But yeah. For the most part, I think the turtles got all the serious animation attention when it came to acting.

Nothing groundbreaking, but certainly nothing to complain about. Oops. Celebration thread, not analytical thread. :D

I'm still really excited about the movie. I'm planning to see again some time next week. I laugh at the notion that I enjoyed this crazy film so much. The parts that were weak didn't bother me, because I cared most about the family and how'd they'd come back together. Like some reviewer said (non-professional), the plot is nothing more than a MacGuffin.

Anyways, wow. I feel like this was only the tip of the iceberg in terms of what can be explored, story and characterwise. The friends I was with (not fans of TMNT except for when they were little) agreed that the movie was awesome, but that they felt like it should have been longer, like there was a lot of stuff we didn't see...

And I got this excitement, that, man these are the badass Turtles I always dreamed of -- but this is only the beginning! Imagine what stories can be told in the next movie. I can't get over how real and believable the movie felt at times -- as characters, the turtles were more expressive and, in my personal opinion, more believable. I could reach out and touch them. The movie was animated, but it felt like live action.

You know, there's this term in art called "sfumato." It's a term used to describe what made Leonardo da Vinci's artwork so lifelike. Basically, you only define the essential elements of the picture -- for example, a woman's face -- but then deliberately choose to leave some parts vague. Da Vinci chose the corners of the eyes, because the eyes are so crucial in making us believe in the portrait we see.

In some ways, I feel like animation does this in its own way. It can get more believable than a live-action film. So, anyways, thank you so much Kevin! I haven't been this proud of the turtles in years.

ZariusTwo 03-24-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 483010)
Like most things in life, it's complex and isn't a simple "either have it this or way or don't". To make it simple though I would have preferred a live action movie that involved Krang..

Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

Peanut 03-24-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 483017)
Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

Dun dun DUUUUUUUUN!

Jester 03-24-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 483017)
Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

VaughnMichael 03-24-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483027)
I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

hahah I sure did when I was a kid!:lol:

ZariusTwo 03-24-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483027)
I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

...Well I sure as hell did:|

Jester 03-24-2007 11:52 PM

OLD TOON ELITISTS!!! Both of you....ok...I did too. Tokka/Rahzar Bebop/Rocksteady thing that is...

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to hear movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

VaughnMichael 03-24-2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483041)
OLD TOON ELITISTS!!! Both of you....ok...I did too. Tokka/Rahzar Bebop/Rocksteady thing that is...

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to here movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

you almost made me drop and F bomb! lmao!:lol:
would have read F@+K YES! lol:evilgrin:

CJStyles 03-25-2007 12:14 AM

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The human characters were just non proportional and looked really bad. Perhaps it was for the best that they said "Screw it lets just make them cartoony so people will know that's what they were going for" because if they had gone for realistic, even if something slight was off/inaccurate, humans are adept at noticing even if they don't know exactly WHAT it is they're noticing. Ever see something and say "That doesn't look quite right... I can't put my finger on why though"? So maybe that's what they thought.. I'd still prefer realistic humans.
You want realistic? Then go watch Final Fantasy

Jo Dawn 03-25-2007 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483041)

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to hear movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

No. :P


And duuuuude, oakley... Krang isn't coming back. Get over it, dude.


As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

Ecto Jedi 03-25-2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn (Post 483087)
As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

We'd be even luckier with a kick-ass Extended Edition DVD and a sequel in the bag. Natch.

VaughnMichael 03-25-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn (Post 483087)
No. :P


And duuuuude, oakley... Krang isn't coming back. Get over it, dude.


As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

you're such a black cloud Jo you know that *takes turtle com back off you* :lol:

Fledermaus 03-25-2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CJStyles (Post 483082)
You want realistic? Then go watch Final Fantasy

Pixar Director Andrew Stanton states: "Animation should be interpretive, not realistic."

Don't try so hard to make a carbon copy of the real world. The entire idea of these kinds of movies is that we make a false world, a fantasy world, believable.

And holy crap, there's an awesome article from AWN I have to show you guys!

Jo Dawn 03-25-2007 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 483096)
you're such a black cloud Jo you know that *takes turtle com back off you* :lol:

Nu uh! Nu uh! :P

Gimmee that back!! I loved this movie plenty!


Quote:

We'd be even luckier with a kick-ass Extended Edition DVD and a sequel in the bag. Natch.
Heck yes!! *Looks pleadingly at Kevin, batting her eyelashes*

Jester 03-25-2007 12:29 AM

The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

blueoakleyz 03-25-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483110)
The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

Yeah I said the same thing in another thread about flaws in human CGI. Bottom line, I hate CGI all together. Any time they use it it feels like what they used it on doesn't count because they just pressed that magic mouse button and there it was.

Ecto Jedi 03-25-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 483110)
The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

You make a strong case. The Turtles in TMNT looked incredibly detailed because they were part of a larger, animated world. CGI turtles would look out of place in a live-action film.

Raven 03-25-2007 12:36 AM

I'm very glad that we were able to get a director and and team of very talnted people for this movie that understand the turtles and the wonky history they have, not only in story wise but also fan wise.

I havent seen a lot of movies hit both age groups so well, cheers to Kevin and his team!

blueoakleyz 03-25-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi (Post 483117)
You make a strong case. The Turtles in TMNT looked incredibly detailed because they were part of a larger, animated world. CGI turtles would look out of places in a live-action film.

well of course!

live action TURTLES in a live-action film.. I don't think anyone would suggest CGI turtles in a liveaction film after seeing such a good job in TMNT1

iris 03-25-2007 12:38 AM

Thanks for the post, Time Mistress.

YES we are SO totally lucky! :)



(And yeah I can tell when it's not Toby, and that would suck if I weren't such a Sam Raimi fangirl-- Spiderman needs more fake blood!.)

Fledermaus 03-25-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz (Post 483116)
Yeah I said the same thing in another thread about flaws in human CGI. Bottom line, I hate CGI all together. Any time they use it it feels like what they used it on doesn't count because they just pressed that magic mouse button and there it was.

That is one of the most ignorant, STUPID comments I've ever heard about CG animation. I'm taking a course right now in Maya 8. Just try and do it yourself, bud. There are no magic buttons to press to make characters or a story come to life. Please stop being so -- geeze.... Fill in the blank.:roll:

And for the last time, GET OUT. As I said earlier, this is a thread for people who are celebrating the movie! You have your thread, now go crawl into it and die!!!!


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