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Courk 04-24-2007 07:21 PM

Comments and Discussions on the 2003 Series from the Beginning
 
I can't change the fact that I'm 4 years behind the rest of you, but I'm hoping there are others trying to catch up (despite the random schedule) who are willing to discuss events as they arise. Alternatively, I'm hoping some of the regulars are willing to discuss early events again, without jumping too far ahead.

Since this topic covers older material, I was just going to keep several discussions in one thread, unless one of the topics needs its own thread. I don't expect it to get too crowded in here...

Anyway, first comment:

In "Shredder Strikes, Part 1," when Leo is lamenting about being fooled, Donnie's line "You got played, bro!" cracked me up. It sounded so awkward coming form him -- which it should. The way Donnie was portrayed in episodes 1, 3, and 4 made him seem like the last person who would say something like that. Awesome job by the voice actor.

Tinuvielsdreams 04-25-2007 06:16 PM

Hey Courk, discuss is what we do :) I like helping fellow fans get up to speed if I can. It's fun :) I get to test my own TMNT knowledge while at it.
Be sure to spend some time flipping through all the threads, you be surprised at how much is actually still being discussed even from those early eppys

Your early 2K3 seires Don comment...I think they have to try to keep dialogue even but I thought it was kinda a funny line by Donny. He is the "smart" one...no one is going to pull the wool over his eyes :lol:

Warhorse 04-25-2007 07:26 PM

Hey. I have a question. Do you people like the fact that

Spoiler:
Shredder is a Utrom instead of a human being? This plot gave me the sinking feeling of the show jumping the shark or something. I just thought Shredder was more terrifying being a human being, and not some Krang imposter.

Tinuvielsdreams 04-25-2007 08:11 PM

oh man I didn't know what to think of that at first, I was like woah!!!!

Spoiler:
I didn't care for it at first but it was funny because thinking of a Shredder Krang combination is just amusing...lol
Then I thought okay this has to be going somewhere pretty crazy cause what could possibly be the reason for it, and well there were a lot of reasons for it. I did love how he turned out to have been a real person at one time. The whole Ninja Tribunal arch bringing him back made it clear that they had to do the whole utrom thing to have the Demon Shredder

Courk 04-25-2007 09:39 PM

Spoiler:
I'm not at that point yet, but I know it's coming (if they show that episode is another issue). I'm not dreading it. I'm open to the possibility, and it's not going to be sprung on me, so I won't have bad surprise feelings about it. My feelings will probably depend on how exactly they go about showing it and how they treat it. Don't bother explaining it to me, I can't really describe what I'm thinking, but I can see ways it would be handled nicely, and also ways for it to fall apart.

Reading the comics on the website is probably helping me accept that. Aliens have been present in TMNT since way back, so it doesn't seem like such a big deal to me that their arch nemesis would be an alien, too.


Spoiler:
One thing I'm not looking forward to is what apparently happens in the "Lost Season." The turtles turn into dragons? I know people have somehow been able to see it, but I'm hoping for a last-second change of heart when it's aired in its own season (if it's aired).

Tinuvielsdreams 04-26-2007 07:53 AM

Yes it's all very hard to explain without seeing it anyway. The same with Ninja tribunal you just have to watch them, I think alot of people got the Australia dvd release including myself. You have to have a region compatible dvd player though. I feel like they will release them here eventually. Why they haven't yet I just don't know.

It's great you are doing your research and catching up. Don't you love the website?
Dan is the nicest guy ever too

Revan 04-26-2007 09:49 AM

I enjoyed watching Casey and April relationship go through the dating levels. haha. First April doesn't care much for him but Casey seem to like her from the start. As you watch the episodes, their relationship gain more and more momentum. happy times.

Warhorse 04-26-2007 05:44 PM

You know what was a good episode, or a series of episoded, is the search for Splinter.

Spoiler:
And when Mikey and Don stumble onto the utrons undressing themselves out of the human shells, and Mikey is getting ready to scream. Kind of reminds me when I saw Aliens in the theater. I was grossed out back then, and this episode sparked those feeling in me again.

ajistheman 05-02-2007 12:40 PM

so what episodes are you watching now? I don't want to talk about something you haven't seen yet, as I assume you are watching them in order. Tell us where you are at, and we can talk about that episode and the events leading up to it.

Courk 05-02-2007 07:27 PM

I would love to be watching them in order. Alas, I'm watching them on 4kids (it's shown on Sundays here). I'm 99.99% certain I'll get the season 1 part 1 DVD when it comes out. Mainly because Shredder Strikes was so good, I want to see how it ends. (I don't even know if it's on part 1, but I'd rather not buy part of a set.)

I'll come up with a list of what I've seen and what I want to see in a little bit.

Courk 05-02-2007 08:14 PM

I've seen:
Things Change
Attack of the Mousers
Meet Casey Jones
The Shredder Strikes, Part 1
The Unconvincing Turtle Titan


Then 4Kids skips the rest of Season 1, and this upcoming weekend will be one of the Search for Splinter episodes. I'd assume part 1, but even if it is, I don't hold out much hope to see part 2.

I *really* want to see:
The Shredder Strikes, Part 2

Whatever episode the TMNT faced Hun in the first time (it's mentioned in Shredder Strikes part 1, I assume it was an on-screen fight)

I don't know what Notes from the Underground is about, but a three-parter sounds interesting.

Shredder Strikes Back through Tales of Leo.

Return to NY (again, three-parter -> interesting)

I keep seeing people mention City at War, so I want to see those. (Plus it has three parts!)

Big Brawl - if 3 parters are interesting, then I gotta see a four-parter. Plus, with a name like Big Brawl, I expect a big brawl. A big ninja brawl. Please say I'm right. :-)

I also keep seeing Same as it Never Was being mentioned -- it sounds sad, I want to see it.

And obviously filling in all the blanks would be cool.

ajistheman 05-02-2007 09:52 PM

first meeting with hun is darkness on the edge of town if my memory is holding up.
you listed some good episodes that you want to see. I guess you've heard everyone on this board talk those up
you even listed 2/3 of my favorite episodes, which i guess is actually both of my top 2
what did you think of shredder strikes part one? what was your favorite parts?

Revan 05-02-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Courk (Post 509483)
I *really* want to see:
The Shredder Strikes, Part 2

An instant classic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Courk
I don't know what Notes from the Underground is about, but a three-parter sounds interesting.

Don't read the spoiler if you don't want to know about Notes
Spoiler:
The boys voyage deep underground NY to a lost city with monsters living in it. The turtles must help the monsters solve their mutation problem so they can leave the lost city.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Courk
Shredder Strikes Back through Tales of Leo.

Shredder strikes back, another classic. good fight sequences and we see casey show a lot of mushyness towards april.
Tales of Leo is awesome too. Most of it is a flashback when the turtles were little toddlers
Spoiler:
We see Raph cry for the first time


Quote:

Originally Posted by Courk
I also keep seeing Same as it Never Was being mentioned -- it sounds sad, I want to see it.

Whoa. I love this ep! Fans are divided on this ep. It will probably move you.

Courk 05-02-2007 11:42 PM

aj: Which of your favorites did I miss?

Neutrino: I know that about Tales of Leo. The thought of it makes me go "aww" nonetheless. I'm a sucker for things like that. Plus Turtle Toddlers -- I bet that's adorable.

SAINW sounds a lot like a Gargoyles episode. I'm not sure of the title, but I'm sure if you've seen it you know which one I mean. I kinda liked that episode, so I don't see why I wouldn't like SAINW.

Masked Ninja 05-03-2007 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Courk (Post 509584)
SAINW sounds a lot like a Gargoyles episode. I'm not sure of the title, but I'm sure if you've seen it you know which one I mean. I kinda liked that episode, so I don't see why I wouldn't like SAINW.

Future Tense, you mean? It actually quite an interesting comparison, especially since Gargoyles in general has characters that can be compared to TMNT pretty easily. (especially if you just take the Trio by themselves... Brooklyn would be kind of a Leo/Raph, while Broadway is Mikey-ish and Lexington is a lot like Donatello) I love both Future Tense and SAINW, and it's interesting to me to see how similar the two episodes are, but also the ways in which they differ.

I know I loved the "Shredder Strikes" and "Shredder Strikes Back" arcs... classics of the series, no doubt. And I still smile when I think of Splinter trying to work the remote of the Battle Shell in "Shredder Strikes" (part 2, I think)

Yeah, can't wait for the first half of season 1 to come out, can't you tell? :twink:

Revan 05-03-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked Ninja (Post 509724)
And I still smile when I think of Splinter trying to work the remote of the Battle Shell

I would feel bad for poor splinter trying to figure out don's tech but they put that in there for comedic purposes so it's good to laugh at him. :lol:

I also love when Splinter can't figure out the shell cell.
"Hello. *pushes buttons* How do you answer this thing?!"

"Master Splinter, you already answered it.":lol: :lol:

ajistheman 05-03-2007 03:25 PM

My three favorite episodes in order are:
1. Same As It Never Was
2. Return to NY (Part 3)
3. Rogue in the House (Part 2)
there is a TON of action in those ones:D

Revan 05-03-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajistheman (Post 509826)
My three favorite episodes in order are:
1. Same As It Never Was
2. Return to NY (Part 3)
3. Rogue in the House (Part 2)
there is a TON of action in those ones:D

Those are some good eps. jw how many eps you have seen so far.

ajistheman 05-03-2007 04:54 PM

was the question to me or the OP?
if it is me, I've seen every episode of the new cartoon and old cartoon
and the first five episodes on next mutation

Revan 05-03-2007 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajistheman (Post 509848)
was the question to me or the OP?
if it is me, I've seen every episode of the new cartoon and old cartoon
and the first five episodes on next mutation

Yeah it was to you. I was just wondering if you had seen all the eps based on your favs.

ajistheman 05-03-2007 10:03 PM

ah not to go off topic (I will go back on topic at the end of the post), but I figured I'd say this...I've actually been surfing this forum since summer 2003, I just never signed up. I have about 10 message boards I visit, and I just never post (or sign up) a lot of times. I only signed up because someone was selling the turtles blimp moc for $30, and I collect moc tmnt toys (with my loose ones from childhood), so I've been watching this show since the day after my 18th birthday coincidentally (feb 8th 2003)
also, these are my top 10 episodes, so if you want some good ones to watch Courk I'd suggest these:D
1. Same As It Never Was
2. Return to New York - Part 3
3. Rogue in House - Part 2
4. Exodus - Part 2
5. Shredder Strikes Back - Part 2
6. Shredder Strikes - Part 2
7. Good Genes - Part 2
8. Secret Orgins - Part 3
9. I, Monster
10t Space Invaders Part 1
10t The Big House
Ok, I was cheesy and didn't want to knock either of the last two off my list, but everyone else feel free to tell Courk what other ones that he might like in case he isn't watching them in order
PS if you can't tell I like the conclusions to the big story arcs:P

Revan 05-03-2007 10:08 PM

I have trouble picking out a specific top ten but I like certain adventure archs.

exodus
Battlenexus
Anything with Renet
April's artifact
time traveling
the outbreak eps
don's mutation

not really specific eps but broad "archs"

ajistheman 05-03-2007 10:19 PM

i'm like raph, I hate bugs. I still like April's artifacts but I wouldn't put that as one of MY favorites. I really do like the Gamera Don arc, and I usually like the endings of the arcs the most, so it is easy for me to pick my favorite episodes out of them, since my favorite arcs/episodes are pretty much in the same order (with episodes have some additional solo episodes)
you don't have many shredder episodes in there, and you can tell those are by far my favorites usually:)

bullet 05-03-2007 10:20 PM

you also seem to enjoy the more tragic episodes o O;;

Warhorse 05-03-2007 10:24 PM

Hey, what episodes are the really funny ones. Because I honestly dont care for the traumatic, life threatening ones. I watch the Turtles mostly because they are funny, not how much they fight or how horrible their foes are!

ajistheman 05-03-2007 10:36 PM

i do like the action, I like to see the turtles come "from behind" in the fight and win it, but IMO the funniest episodes are in no order of funnyness
Junklantis (I think most people here will DISagree with me, but I think its funny)
The Golden Puck
Touch and Go
I like the comedy in a lot of episodes, but imo these are good mostly for the humor
whereas there are a lot of episodes that are a mix of both

Revan 05-03-2007 10:45 PM

Comedy.. ha, any ep where mikey screams like a girl is an instant hit with me. When I first heard that, I literally giggled for days. seriously.

ajistheman 05-03-2007 10:49 PM

neutrino, did you like mikey's scaredy-chicken act in the notes from the underground arc?

Revan 05-03-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajistheman (Post 510045)
neutrino, did you like mikey's scaredy-chicken act in the notes from the underground arc?

I believe so. It's been a long long long time since I've watched the notes. I think I've only seen those eps one time each but I crack up at his girlyness. I can't help it.

bullet 05-03-2007 10:59 PM

that's what's cool about mike. even in somewhat grim circumstances he'll get some laughs outta me. the notes from underground one was particularly funny, you know when raph calls mike weird.

Masked Ninja 05-03-2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 510024)
Hey, what episodes are the really funny ones. Because I honestly dont care for the traumatic, life threatening ones. I watch the Turtles mostly because they are funny, not how much they fight or how horrible their foes are!

There's a really good series that started in 1987... ;)

Though there was probably more good humor in the earlier seasons of the new 'toon, and then it gradually got darker. Which I liked, because the new 'toon is good at being a darkish action 'toon, and the old 'toon is stronger in humor. And I appreciated the TMNT not being all "nyuck nyuck" on the screen for once.

So I don't know that there are full-on "funny episodes" for the new 'toon, but there are certainly occasional hilarious parts within episodes.

ajistheman 05-03-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked Ninja (Post 510059)

So I don't know that there are full-on "funny episodes" for the new 'toon, but there are certainly occasional hilarious parts within episodes.

he is speaking the truth, it is a funny show, but not full-on episodes

Courk 05-04-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajistheman (Post 510009)
tell Courk what other ones that he might like in case he isn't watching them in order

1. Yes, do tell me your favorites so I can look forward to them. :-)
2. I'll do my best to watch them in order. I'll probably have to leave off on 4Kids
soon, since it seems they'll be on season 2 shortly, and I don't want to be that far off on order. :ohwell:
3. That should be "tell Courk what other ones that she might like"

ninjitsu_magic_47 05-04-2007 11:08 AM

I like the ones with Renet in them, I don't really know why. But I find her ditzyness really funny.

Spoiler:
And the fact that she was a blue eyed blond I found hilarous.

ajistheman 05-04-2007 12:25 PM

sorry Courk. so what episodes were your favorite so far, girl?
and about renet, yeah she is the only ditzy girl I can remember in this series

Revan 05-04-2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajistheman (Post 510212)
sorry Courk. so what episodes were your favorite so far, girl?
and about renet, yeah she is the only ditzy girl I can remember in this series

ah Renet, typical

Spoiler:
In the prehistoric eps when the boys get stuck in the cretatious, they drew renet very attractive. She looked completely different in her skimpy dino outfit. oooo Renet, my dream girl

Courk 05-04-2007 04:26 PM

My favorite episode so far is probably The Shredder Strikes. It had good action and a good story.

I thought Things Change was pretty good for a first episode. It showed what further episodes were going to be like, so you could look at that and make a decision on whether it seemed you would like the series as a whole. I don't think starting a series with the origin story is always the best idea, since the rest of the series doesn't typically revolve around the origin. Things Change didn't mention anything related to origins as far as I can remember, it just showed the turtles relationship with each other and Splinter, as well as some ninja fighting action.

Ra 05-04-2007 05:09 PM

Ah, man, this is bringing back some good memories... *sighs happily*

I just love the 2k3 series as a whole and I don't really have a favorite episode. I think one of my favorite episodes have to be...

Season 1
"Shredder Strikes Back" pt 1 &2
"Tales of Leo"
"The King"
"Lone Raph and Cub"

Season 2
"The Ultimate Ninja"
"What a Croc!"
"Big Brawl" pts 1, 2, 3 & 4.

Season 3
"The Christmas Aliens"
"Hunted"
"H.A.T.E."
"Nobody's Fool"
"The Darkness Within"
"Exodus" pts 1 & 2

Season 4 (My favorite season so far, I guess)
"Dragon's Brew"
"Sons of the Silent Age"
"Dragons Rising"
"Still Nobody"
"Samurai Tourist"
"The Ancient One"
"Insane in the Membrane"
"Good Genes" pt 1 & 2.

And I'll just leave it at that. The only episode I desperately want to see is "I, Monster". It's the ONLY episode that I haven't watched, and I keep on missing it whenever it is being aired. Hopefully one day I'll be able to watch it.

Warhorse 05-04-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino (Post 510043)
Comedy.. ha, any ep where mikey screams like a girl is an instant hit with me. When I first heard that, I literally giggled for days. seriously.

I actually LMAO when Mikey and Don were posing as an old couple, and a gang or mob came in and started to get rough with Don, and then Mikey says something like "No one man handles my husband!"

Then later on, Donny said something like he was just glad Mikey stopped referring him to as his husband! LOL!

ajistheman 05-04-2007 06:34 PM

in that episode did you notice the couple was a black women and white guy? that was the first time I've noticed an interracial couple not only in a cartoon, but any tv show
I thought that was REALLY IMPRESSIVE
(please note that if I missed some obvious ones, I don't watch a lot of tv outside of tmnt and basketball)


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