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Raph's Girl 12-07-2006 06:03 PM

The Dark Knight - More Joker and Teaser on Page 5
 
Moviehole.net reported that Rachel McAdams (Wedding Crashers) is in line for a role in the upcoming Batman Begins sequel, The Dark Knight; the Batman-on-Film.com site speculates she may be up for the role of Selina Kyle, aka Catwoman.

Raph's Girl note: Catwoman?! I'd rather have Talia in the movie than Catwoman....bad enough that Joker and TwoFace are gonna be in it.... :ohwell:

Deathknight 12-07-2006 06:22 PM

But wasn't it kind of hinted at the end of the first movie that the Joker would be the first villian (I could be wrong it's been awhile since I've seen it and I might be getting mixed up)? Not that I would complain if they did Catwoman instead but I just find it kind of odd.

Dr. Doom 12-07-2006 09:19 PM

Bad enough....?

What the HELL is wrong with you?

Cure 12-07-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 445990)
....bad enough that Joker and TwoFace are gonna be in it.... :ohwell:

Bad....to have...Joker? I agree with Doom, you're crazy.

Anarchistguy 12-07-2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 445990)
Raph's Girl note: Catwoman?! I'd rather have Talia in the movie than Catwoman....bad enough that Joker and TwoFace are gonna be in it.... :ohwell:

I don't really care if Catwoman is gonna be in the movie actually. As long as her real name ain't Patience Phillips, I'm cool with it.

VaughnMichael 12-07-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure4AIDS (Post 446054)
Bad....to have...Joker? I agree with Doom, you're crazy.

I'm quite sure some people would say it's a waste and that the movies do not need to focus on characters who have allready have movie time.
Me I'm not one of those people hahahah:lol: Allthough I'd rather see madhater or clayface or killercrock anyday over jocker again.:evilgrin:

Raph's Girl 12-07-2006 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 446069)
I'm quite sure some people would say it's a waste and that the movies do not need to focus on characters who have allready have movie time.
Me I'm not one of those people hahahah:lol: Allthough I'd rather see madhater or clayface or killercrock anyday over jocker again.:evilgrin:

Exactly!! I'd rather see Clayface on the big screen! The guy that played him in "Birds of Prey" could reprise the role! :P Killer Croc would be awesome.... Mad Hatter not so much cuz of the upcoming American McGee's Alice In Wonderland movie coming out...

But if it's got Joker at least have the decency to have Harley in it... Ooh maybe Rachel McAdams is playing Harley? :evilgrin:

Raven 12-07-2006 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 446092)
Exactly!! I'd rather see Clayface on the big screen! The guy that played him in "Birds of Prey" could reprise the role! :P Killer Croc would be awesome.... Mad Hatter not so much cuz of the upcoming American McGee's Alice In Wonderland movie coming out...

But if it's got Joker at least have the decency to have Harley in it... Ooh maybe Rachel McAdams is playing Harley? :evilgrin:

But theres no need for harely yet.....This is the begining of batman and the joker so why would she come along so early? I want to see the tension between Batman and the joker build before she ever comes in.

Plus I think its great that there brining in Joker, but if you payed any attention to begins he will be just one of a huge cast of villains so it wont be just him.

Raph's Girl 12-07-2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 446096)
But theres no need for harely yet.....This is the begining of batman and the joker so why would she come along so early? I want to see the tension between Batman and the joker build before she ever comes in.

Harely could still be in it. Remember she's a psychologist. She could be trying to help people who were effected by the fear agent. All those people effected say their fears. That's like the origin of The Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Mad Hatter, Riddler, Copperhead, Killer Moth, Orca, Ventriloquist, Poison Ivey...and possably others. They all become what they fear...

Spitfire 12-08-2006 01:41 AM

Well I'd rather see characters like the Joker and Two-Face done justice instead of the raped version of them in the other movies.

Well I take that back only Two-face was raped. Joker was okay, some people liked him I think it's quite dated. But yeah either way we knew Joker was going to be in it from the end of Begins. So I'm looking forward to this.

VaughnMichael 12-08-2006 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx (Post 446128)
Well I'd rather see characters like the Joker and Two-Face done justice instead of the raped version of them in the other movies.

Well I take that back only Two-face was raped. Joker was okay, some people liked him I think it's quite dated. But yeah either way we knew Joker was going to be in it from the end of Begins. So I'm looking forward to this.

yea like I said I don't mind it but I do hope they keep going and I would love to see harley also. I'd also like catwoman to have the new long with the big ears I think the design like that is beautiful.
I really want to see clayface and killer croc though at some point.
Clayface is just to tragic to never have a movie made of him.

ThirdMarioBro 12-08-2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx (Post 446128)
Well I'd rather see characters like the Joker and Two-Face done justice instead of the raped version of them in the other movies.

Well I take that back only Two-face was raped. Joker was okay, some people liked him I think it's quite dated. But yeah either way we knew Joker was going to be in it from the end of Begins. So I'm looking forward to this.

Well, yeah, the whole movie is dated. I look at those as a typical "over-saturated" comic book translation that stopped after the sequel. These movies are meant to be taken seriously, and be long standing interpretations. Still, if there is anything the old movies got right, it was Catwoman.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...returnsdvd.jpg

If they can beat Michelle Pfeiffer, I will tip my hat to them and have a drink in their honour. They'll be damned hardpressed to pull that off in my eyes though, but hell, Batman Begins took a character I had written off as a joke, and made him the greatest in his field once again. I wish them luck,

Mecha Cow 12-08-2006 07:42 AM

I really can't imagine McAdams as Catwoman...

Anarky 12-08-2006 08:09 AM

I can't imagine anyone besides Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman. Especially not Halle Berry.

And there's no better Batvillain than the Joker, so I'd love to see him. Best villain ever. And Harley should come later, not at the beginning, since Bats needs to capture Joker first for Harley to first meet him, if they want to pull off Harley as she is in the book. It would make a great ending shot actually, seeing Quinzel go home and apply her Harley makeup.

Dr. Doom 12-08-2006 11:09 AM

Ahem. SECOND best villain.

Anarky 12-08-2006 11:40 AM

Sorry, I don't dig men in tin cans. Especially not the ones who boast about their manlihood to demons.

Sewer Bull 12-08-2006 01:03 PM

HOW DARE YOU TO QUESTION LORD DOOM'S PARAMOUNT MANLIHOOD YOU ANARCHIST SCUMBAG?! HIS DOOMNESS MIGHT BOAST ABOUT IT WHENEVER AND WHEREVER HE WISHES, AS IT IS HIS HOLY PRIVILEGE. NOW KNEEL AND BOW BEFORE DOOM AND HE MIGHT MERCIFULLY SPARE YOU ANY UNNECESSARY ANGUISH BEFORE I BEHEAD YOU ON THE MAIN PLACE OF DOOMSTADT, LATVERIA!

Back on topic... yeah, I think Joker is the best villain in Bat's universe. He's an absolute must in that movie. A real psycho with no extra superpowers - that makes him a perfect counterpart for Batman. Too bad Jack Nicholson is too old to play him once again, tho' - I loved him in Tim Burton's movie. I don't know how I'm going to react to the newest incarnation.

DrSpengler 12-08-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro (Post 446144)
Still, if there is anything the old movies got right, it was Catwoman.

Well, they certainly made her sexy, but her origin in Batman Returns? Awful.

She was a secretary who got pushed out a window, got licked by a bunch of cats and woke up with ninja-skills and 9 magical lives...somehow.

Ugh. And people hated the origin from the Halle Barry movie.

VaughnMichael 12-08-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 446231)
Well, they certainly made her sexy, but her origin in Batman Returns? Awful.

She was a secretary who got pushed out a window, got licked by a bunch of cats and woke up with ninja-skills and 9 magical lives...somehow.

Ugh. And people hated the origin from the Halle Barry movie.

whats the origin in the halle barry movie? I just didnt want to see it cause it looked bad and I can't picture halle barry as catwoman.

DrSpengler 12-08-2006 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 446234)
whats the origin in the halle barry movie? I just didnt want to see it cause it looked bad and I can't picture halle barry as catwoman.

I didn't see it, but what I read was that there's an ancient cat god who gives powers to a new woman every generation, and Halle Barry was to be the new Catwoman or something.

John Rogers is an idiot. It pains me to know that he wrote the script for the new Transformers movie.

VaughnMichael 12-08-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 446236)
I didn't see it, but what I read was that there's an ancient cat god who gives powers to a new woman every generation, and Halle Barry was to be the new Catwoman or something.

John Rogers is an idiot. It pains me to know that he wrote the script for the new Transformers movie.

wait it's the same guy who did the new catwoman movie oi poor transformer fans!:dead: :|

Dr. Doom 12-08-2006 02:50 PM

I remember booing the trailer for Catwoman when I saw Spider-Man 2. I got some applause, it was awesome.

DrSpengler 12-08-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 446239)
wait it's the same guy who did the new catwoman movie oi poor transformer fans!:dead: :|

Well, he wrote hte first treatment. A dozen writers have since worked over it. Hopefully, everything even remotely "John Rogers" has been worked out of that thing.

VaughnMichael 12-08-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 446242)
I remember booing the trailer for Catwoman when I saw Spider-Man 2. I got some applause, it was awesome.

ahahha that's great!
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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 446244)
Well, he wrote hte first treatment. A dozen writers have since worked over it. Hopefully, everything even remotely "John Rogers" has been worked out of that thing.

And I sure hope so to cause I plan on seeing the Transformers movie even though I dislike the designs.*shruggs*:|

Raven 12-09-2006 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 446100)
Harely could still be in it. Remember she's a psychologist. She could be trying to help people who were effected by the fear agent. All those people effected say their fears. That's like the origin of The Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Mad Hatter, Riddler, Copperhead, Killer Moth, Orca, Ventriloquist, Poison Ivey...and possably others. They all become what they fear...

Sorry I have to disagree here......there has never been a villian in the Batman universe that became what they feared, in fact each one has embraced the new role they created for them selves. Each one before they became there famous villain persona was on the brink of a mental crash in some cases and some thing led them to become what they are now, but never fear. Usually a accident in a lab, thrown into a chemical bath, acid thrown in the face brining about a second personality or just emboding there obsession like the Riddler for example.

Raph's Girl 12-09-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 446336)
Sorry I have to disagree here......there has never been a villian in the Batman universe that became what they feared.

In Batman Begins in the scene where Batman is rescuing the boy (Tim Drake? ). Just as he's pulling him up to the roof you can distinctly hear in the crowd of people effected by the fear agent one of them whispering "Joker"....

So altho yes none of the villians have ever become what they feared...however this is where the storyline is going for the new Batman movie series.

Anarky 12-09-2006 09:35 AM

Maybe in a fanfiction of an RPG all the Bat-villains have become what they fear, but not in the regular DCU. Just because the first movie had a fear serum in it, doesn't mean that the villains will all have the same origin. And lo and behold, someone said the name Joker. Could it be that the evil clown just happened to be present at the scene? I mean, we know that he is running loose in Gotham, but we don't know for how long he's been around. And my guess is that he's been there for quite some time.

And yes, the boy must have been Tim Drake. He must have. Absolutely. Because there's only one Tim in Gotham. Again, with the fanfiction-thinking.

And let's have a look at Poison Ivy, how she "became what she feared": Pamela Isley grew up and studied advanced botanical biochemistry which kind of implies, if not prooves, that Pamela Isley was not afraid of plants.

What about Two-Face then? Would a guy afraid of crime become a district attoney? I don't think so. Would the Joker have been a comedian (as established in Detective Comics #826) if he was afraid of comedic acts? Not very likely. Catwoman as a catloving dominatrix/prostitute before she became Catwoman? I doubt it.

So, whichever way you turn it, you're wrong, I'm afraid. None of your fanfiction-thoughts play out when applied to the real thing. I'd drop that argument if I was you, for your own credibility's sake.

Mecha Cow 12-09-2006 10:55 AM

It doesn't even matter if the boy was Tim Drake, since I'm pretty sure Nolan said Robin would never be part of the movie franchise as long as he was involved (And if they did decide to add Robin, it would probably be Grayson anyway).

Raven 12-09-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 446349)
In Batman Begins in the scene where Batman is rescuing the boy (Tim Drake? ). Just as he's pulling him up to the roof you can distinctly hear in the crowd of people effected by the fear agent one of them whispering "Joker"....

So altho yes none of the villians have ever become what they feared...however this is where the storyline is going for the new Batman movie series.

Why does that boy have to be Tim Drake? Thats the first I've heard that, usually I get Jason Todd for that one. And no its not Jason, the boy was just a nameless kid used to help move the plot of the story along.

And I really would like to see where your getting the idea that in the begins series that ALL the villains will be having origins that deal with the fear toxin and becoming what they fear? Because Goyer him self said this about Two face.....

Spoiler:
When they capture the Joker at some point he throws acid at harveys face causing him to become Two Face


And as far as we know the Joker could have been around far longer then we know....

Duke 12-11-2006 12:17 PM

I was going to respond to Raph's Girl's post but Anarky did all the necessary work on that one.

Mr._Mutant_Man 12-11-2006 12:55 PM

I like Rachel McAdams, and I'd be interested in seeing if she could pull off Catwoman. Harley Quinn would be interesting, too.

I have no problem seeing The Joker again, since maybe this time we'll get a more comic-like Joker and not Jack Nicholson dressed as The Joker. I don't think we're going to see Two-Face in the second movie just yet, I think they want to introduce him as the DA first.

Spike Spiegel 12-21-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow (Post 446372)
It doesn't even matter if the boy was Tim Drake, since I'm pretty sure Nolan said Robin would never be part of the movie franchise as long as he was involved (And if they did decide to add Robin, it would probably be Grayson anyway).

After seeing Chris O'Donnel as Robin I would hate to see Robin in the current series--it would screw it up as far as I'm concerned. Christian Bale's Batman is BADASS, and part of that is the fact the he's just a guy with some gadgets and cool vehicle for spelunking. JUST ONE GUY fighting a war against crime. That was part of what made Batman 1989 so cool. Keaton was JUST ONE GUY. Unless they could figure out a way to give the charcter depth, I can't see a Robin in the Begins universe.

Mr._Mutant_Man 01-03-2007 11:32 AM

Just because they screwed up Robin once doesn't make it a bad idea. Chris O'Donell Robin didn't make much sense because the guy was 25 and went to live with Bruce Wayne. But if they got someone in their teens it could work. Young enough so that it makes sense for them to be taken in by Batman, but old enough so it doesn't seem as wrong for Batman to put them in danger.

Robin is an essential part of the Batman story, because he is what keeps Batman from going too nuts.

Death's Head 01-03-2007 05:08 PM

I could have sworn that one of the concepts of this new Batman franchise was that villains used in previous films were not to be used. So I've heard. Regardless, the movie uses realism to an extent that the other Batman films did not touch, so in my opinion only the ones that can be depicted as realistically as possible should be used. I don't see how Clayface, Mister Freeze, and Poison Ivy could be used as such.

Raven 05-19-2007 08:50 PM

The Dark Knight
 
The offical site just launched a few days ago along with it an ad for harvey Dent. Which can all be found here http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/images/tdk_logo.jpg

nothing special I know but its killing me. I want to see this!

Well a few days after that went up a comic book store reported that they found a few joker cards lying around in the store that said

"I believe in Harvey Dent too, HAHAHAHA"

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5710


Any way today a new site popped up called I believe in Harvey Dent too
http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/
Which you can see is a play off of the Harvey dent site. Well no news has broke out yet to claim if this is offical or fake, either way its pretty cool.

If you enter your email and the code a email will be sent to you by TragicPast that says
'I always say, you never know what a man is truly made of until you peel
the skin off his face one piece at a time."

When you receive this you can take one pixel off the picture to reveal the image hidden under harveys. Which most have broken down into this.




Take it as you want but nothing has been said by the WB if those last two are offical.

Duke 05-20-2007 06:22 PM

The only thing is if you go to http://ibelieveinharveydent.com you get sent to the official Warner Bros website (aka http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com). However, you do not get redirected to Warner Bros when you go to http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/.

Spitfire 05-20-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 446069)
I'm quite sure some people would say it's a waste and that the movies do not need to focus on characters who have allready have movie time.
Me I'm not one of those people hahahah:lol: Allthough I'd rather see madhater or clayface or killercrock anyday over jocker again.:evilgrin:

Sadly Mad Hatter was voted one of the worst Batman villains ever. Then again so was Penguin and he had his own movie.

I personally would love to see croc. After seeing episodes of Batman: TAS where all the villains team up I'd love to see that in a movie.

Ra 05-20-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 517118)
Well a few days after that went up a comic book store reported that they found a few joker cards lying around in the store that said

"I believe in Harvey Dent too, HAHAHAHA"

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5710

Now THAT is the best bit of Batman news I have heard ever since I got wind of "The Dark Knight" being in production. No idea why, but hearing that there are Joker cards lying around in comic book stores with a message like that on it...it makes the insane one inside of me grin.

Now I'm as hyped as ever to see this movie! I want my Joker! :evilgrin:

LogicDonny 05-21-2007 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx (Post 517522)
Sadly Mad Hatter was voted one of the worst Batman villains ever. Then again so was Penguin and he had his own movie.

I personally would love to see croc. After seeing episodes of Batman: TAS where all the villains team up I'd love to see that in a movie.

they did in the batman movie the very first one they had the one with the 60's one.

lol.. still it is a cool idea.. besides having too many villians lead to like not too much screen time for alot of the actors. take alook at spiderman 3, xmen 3 and etc.

Raven 05-21-2007 02:22 AM

Well heres the final image from I believ in Harvey dent too site

http://tinypic.com/4u1ivb8.jpg

Looks pretty cool and creepy, I guess where getting the scared smile :D .


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