Illegal Music Download Arrest
 

A woman was arrested for illegal music downloading (and apparently also shared the downloaded music with others, too). She has been ordered to pay $9,000 for *each* of the illegal downloads (having done 24 in all)!

Ouch... Sucks to be her.

Stop it, you're scaring me o.o

I mean 24... I have... Umm... A little more? Ehehe...

Btw, does anyone know if it's just swedish police that can do anything about me downloading or can someone foreign get involved too?

Just wondering, cos Swedish police doesn't really care if you download and most people who get caught gets acquinted in court.

What country was this in? Ya know it would be helpful when posting news to post the URL where ya got the news from. :P

Found it. She was apperantly getting the songs off of Kazaa. Yeesh. I didn't even know that P2P still existed.... The RIAA has been after Kazaa for years! Plus she was downloading the music while on campus (the RIAA has been after campuses for a while).

http://cbs3.com/local/local_story_278181313.html

Well, I'm in the US. But I heard it on a local TV news report (so didn't have a link).

BitTorrent, mIRC, eMule, etc

I have a feeling that by "that P2P" Raph's Girl meant "that particular P2P software that is Kazaa", not the whole P2P network.

I didn't know Kazaa still existed as well, I thought it was already dead for a long time.

Blame the loophole that more or less says "you can leech but you cannot share".

Wow, talk about making an example out of someone. Glad I only ever DL crap that isn't out yet, the bands I listen to actually put their own CDs on the file sharing networks before releasing them. I wasn't sure if it was really them or someone who works for them until the new Arch Enemy CD had water marks.

You know really if people would just buy the damn music like I do this wouldn't be a problem. I mean I go out of my way to get the best version of a CD I can if I like it. I just like to hear it before it's out or before I buy it so I know if I like it.

That's the funny thing about English. It's hard to tell with statements like that. I read it as that p2p as in P2P in general, but now that you've pointed out there was another way to take it, You are probably right.

that's so unfair. why her? why couldn't it have been anyone? that amount of money ruins lives.and downloading one song does not ruin the songwriters' life.

You're right...that kind of money could ruin a life.......believe me, I know what it is like to realize you will never have your dream because of money. But this is more to make her an example and send a message. sure, downloading one song would not hurt the writer / producer / artist, etc. But imagine HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS or MILLIONS of people doing that....

If you can download stuff for free, why would you buy it? And It's not like just making music and giving it away will pay their bills. We'd have an overrun of waiters in this town (Nashville) if downloading music all the time was free!

I'm not picking sides. Personally, I think that fine is a bit harsh. But she is being made an example. It is a bit like a tort against McDonalds for millions of dollars becaue their coffee is to hot or something.

Don't get me started about the coffee lawsuit and simultaneous, mysterious disappearance of the godsend known as the Hot Apple Pie... I miss it so much. :cry:

Because you have respect for the artist who created it.

Oh wait no one has that anymore; Seriously if you DL crap and never buy it your not a fan, your a leech.

That's not entirely true; there's a lot of stuff that you can't come by, at least not anymore.

That much is true. So because it is no longer available, people should let it be forgotten and leave it at that?

I download songs illegally to test drive them. If I like an album, I'll buy it. If it turns out to blow, then I saved myself $20. If it is no longer available, or costs something like $40+ used, I download it.

http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

Greatest. Country. Ever.

And that's how it should be.

Music (and movies and so on) should be available for everyone, not just the ones that can afford it.

I mean, I could afford to buy music, that's why I occasionaly buy a CD but as a student I don't really have the money to buy everything I want (obviously) so is there a way to save money and still get what I want? Yes. Then I use it.

I just think some people should develop another way to pay for it and pay LESS for it. Like.. Swedish Vänsterpartiet (a political party on the left side) have suggested some sort of broadband-tax, which, if it's reasonably high/low, sounds fair to me.

More reason to get angry at all this music download lawsuit bullsh*t...

Study: P2P effect on legal music sales "not statistically distinguishable from zero"

Well yeah bands make all their money off of merch and concert ticket sales. I know DLing doesn't affect the sales of the CDs themselves*Which bands make nothing on for the most part compared to other stuff* I'm a collector and a stern believer of you like it, you buy it.

Stuff may be rare or whatever but there's always a way to get it for a good price. I once waited an entire year for a CD I wanted to be sent to me from a website. I thought because the movies "Tiger On The Beat" and "The Killer" were out of print I'd never get them for cheap, found them on Ebay for 10 bucks each. Hell I even found "Casshern" for a good price, a copy that works with US DVD players.

I can understand people not being able to afford the music that's fine by me, but I do believe that if you like something eventually you should go out and buy it. I'm sure most of you make a point to buy the turtles DVDs and not just download them. Because you want more, and you know that buying those DVDs up gives you a better chance to have more. Understand?

Music is pretty cheap here compared to somewhere like Japan. $30 for an album? It better come with a D S'in by the artist/group! But then there's Korea, where albums cost $8. So you know, depends where you're from. Long story short, music isn't so expensive, but it can become so when you have such a wide range of interests.

Me, the only groups I ever support are Dir en grey and Morning Musume. I buy Morning Musume albums, and Dir en grey everything.

Ouch...remind me never to visit wherever that women lives...

Same here. I'm very picky as a listener, and I usually am downloading things that I end up deleting. But once I like something, I try and buy the album.

It's a different story with Japanese music (or foreign music, for that matter), since you can't really go to a store and buy it. Since I can't really get enough of it, I have not much of an option other than downloading any Japanese songs I want to listen to (having no credit card and parents who hate buying online doesn't help matters either).

Now, I'll buy an album if it has more than one song that I actually like.

I tend not to buy Japanese albums, because it's nearly thirty bucks and that's not even including how much it costs for delivery. Sometimes, I really despise importing.

Well, the "illegal" downloading thing, if you can remember, was the Music industry's way of scapegoating why they were losing money with identical lousy rap artists making formulaic "shake it like a Salt Shaker" "Shake Your Laffy Taffy" and basically all the same "Shake your fill in the blank, slap your ho" crap they were pumping out. Sure, there were people buying CD's still. But why pay 20 bucks for a CD with one good song on it, especially if you get a one hit wonder? Add to the fact they were dangerously behind the times, and the CD was vastly becoming obsolete, they needed to make an example out of someone.

I'm laying off my usually entertainment industry rant. But to get to the short of it, they make bad stuff no one wants, they ignore real talent, and if they don't get someone lucky or rich enough to own their own songs, they can bleed a musician dry. And the downloaders are the "immoral" ones.

When I download music I never get anything available on CD. Basically stuff off of fan sites that they grabbed of video tapes and Tv and such. My music consists of some Anime themes, some american cartoon themes.... and if you didn't guess already, Muppet show stuff.

If I want an album, I buy it. Or I plan to buy it. if someone offered me free downloads of the Family Guy CD, I say "No! I plan to buy the CD myself!" But when I want something rare, like the Japanese TMNT theme from the 80's I ask for it (and I got it).

Mark my words, though.... video's going to be the next thing. And then video games. So be careful.

Did you hear what Radiohead is doing for their new album? You get to pick how much you want to pay for their album and then download it online.

I can't find an English source right now but the original news I read (on one of Germany's most renowned news sites) was that the woman wasn't charged for downloading but for uploading those 24 songs. The crucial point is that just making songs available in a shared docs folder is considered a criminal offence now.

Well, either way your supposed to settle out of court. She's dumb for trying to fight it.