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VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 01:30 AM

Jagwar is a no go *booo playmates!*
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hious/Jag1.jpg
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Originally Posted by Murphy @ the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com
Alas, just informed by Playmates that they will not be including Jagwar as part of their Global Mutant Missions line.

CLICK HERE TO GO DIRECTLY TO HIS BLOG.

Roseangelo 11-27-2007 01:35 AM

Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.

VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 572776)
Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.

Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:

Roseangelo 11-27-2007 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 572780)
Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:

I'm trying really hard not to jump to that conclusion. Really. But yeah... that's pretty much what I expect it is. :dead:

VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 572781)
I'm trying really hard not to jump to that conclusion. Really. But yeah... that's pretty much what I expect it is. :dead:

Yeah, since we both know playmates wants to make a retro line.
This is getting pretty bad, It's like we invited him to our homes for dinner and he peed all over the food. ugh!
It seriously makes me want to scream!:x

Coola Yagami 11-27-2007 08:38 AM

Global Mutant Missions....?

gobo 11-27-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putrescent (Post 572780)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 572776)
Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.

Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:

P-- Putrescent?? :o OMG! Why'd ya saboutage your own dream? You're a confusing dude, dude...

Sorry. Just had to. This is a dark day for us all. R.I.P. Jagwar fig... :tcry:

Toonami Tom 11-27-2007 11:47 AM

Dang, I hate to hear that the figure was cancelled. It seems that the guy with the "P" in his name is trying to destroy the TMNT Playmates Toy line if he is the reason for this.

Make way for the one million different crappy turtle variants and dumb looking aliens.:roll: Yeah, that's what kids and collectors want.:roll:

I wish there was a way for Playmates to sneak in a movie style Venus figure, just to tick off 'Mr. P' really badly.:D

Drtooth 11-27-2007 12:38 PM

Murphy posted the reason why on his blog:

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I asked my junior executive friend at Playmates why they 86'd the Jagwar figure. His reply: "Pmates puts together a line (designed, approved, etc.), like Global Mutant Missions. Once it’s given the “ok” from all parties involved (but before we cut steel for tooling), big shots look at numbers - especially at brands with history (like TMNT or Strawberry Shortcake). An important person cross references future products with what has sold in the past. Looking at TMNT for example, data would most likely indicate that the 4 turtles tend to sell the best, with lesser known villains and allies not quite as aggressively. This is reported to the Powers That Be and then ultimately what was once a line of 8 figures, now gets budgeted and reduced to be a line of 6. Somewhere between this stage and the actual cutting of steel, an exec. (from marketing, I think) chooses which figures stay and which go. My guess is in this case it was on personal aesthetic preferences alone. You’ll note that this happened to Alien Hunters too (only Thrashmor and Dumpjumper will be moving forward, not Antroid and the other one). Now, this doesn’t mean that the other figures will never get made, but my guess is that retail will have to like this assortment a whole hell of a lot before we start manufacturing unproduced styles."
Yeah... I'm not even going to touch that one.
So someone there says the four turtles sell the best? Tell that to the 1000000 rediculous varients still on the shelves.

Of course, I don't even care at this point. I'm just going to get the movie figures, the minis, and that's it. Neca. Neca.

Toonami Tom 11-27-2007 12:47 PM

Ah the heck with it, I think I'm done with this toy line.

Bring on the NECA TMNT!:)

Spitfire 11-27-2007 02:09 PM

I'm so sick of them making molds and not using them.

VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx (Post 572867)
I'm so sick of them making molds and not using them.

yeah it's gettin' pretty moldy around here.:lol:
Um so I'm friggin sick of this crap also I don't even buy any of the turtles like ever..I would consider it if they at least made new sculpts for each figure but they dont they just keep messing things up more and more.
Smooth move Playmates.:roll:

METALHEAD 11-27-2007 07:00 PM

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo Dddddddddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn This World! First The Adventure Team 8inch Gijoe Figures And The Rest Of The Gijoe 8inch Line Being Canned Now This????!!!??? Nothings Right Anymore! *sobs Cries Crawls Under A Rock*

VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 07:20 PM

yeah you know seriously F playmates this is a huge kick in our teeth.
I'm glad Peter didn't have anything to do with this I'd hate to think he's that hatefull of his past. But one can never be to sure since we haven't seen the man say a word since the last issue of vol.4 of tmnt.

Jester 11-27-2007 07:31 PM

OK I say we as a TMNT fan community not buy Playmates toys save the "lesser known villains and allies" although we probably know those characters and their birth dates...:P

VaughnMichael 11-27-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 573012)
OK I say we as a TMNT fan community not buy Playmates toys save the "lesser known villains and allies" although we probably know those characters and their birth dates...:P

That's all I do buy anyway, I seriously don't see it as how they say it considering all I ever see sitting collecting dust on shelves is the 4 turtles and maybe april.
And maybe if they updated their sculpting so the toys dont look like they came from a happymeal they'd sell better.

Jester 11-27-2007 07:43 PM

I agree, I don't need 20 different versions of Raph, though he's my favorite.

CyberCubed 11-27-2007 09:46 PM

My rules are simple, I buy the TMNT varients I like and ignore the ones I don't like.

I ignored the Street Grindin' Turtles as well as the Auto-Attack Turtles, but I'm going to get all 4 Mutatin' Turtles again.

odupianist 11-28-2007 07:39 AM

I don't see how they figure the non turtle characters don't sell. I see more turtles left over on the shelf than the non turtle characters. Idiots...

gobo 11-29-2007 03:20 AM

It's simple. Since there are four turtles, and they're the stars of the franchise, there's a million and one ways that they can look at cold, hard stats to see that these are more likely to sell. Factor in some deluded interpretations on how this means no one is interested in the other characters, and you have Playmates' logic. ^_^

Triglyph 11-30-2007 08:17 AM

I hate to say this, but the type of people on this message board are by far the minority when it comes to who buys ninja turtles toys. While people like us may not get it, the turtles do sell more. Look around on ebay at parents selling kids toys:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-Lo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-Lo...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-8-Teenage...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEENAGE-MUTANT-N...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-LOT-14-TMNT...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Great-Lot-Of-23-...QQcmdZViewItem

This is all stuff someone bought for their kids.

Hardcore fans talk to other hardcore fans who all share similar opinions so its easy for them think everyone agrees with their point of view, but people like us really only make up a small percentage of the market.

I am 100% with you guys in wanting more characters over more turtles, but all of those crazy looking stupid costumed turtles DO sell as long as the toy line is marketed to kids. I know I don't like it, but just because we all agree doesn't mean playmates doesn't know what they're doing.

VaughnMichael 11-30-2007 04:38 PM

Damn, I'm glad my mom let me choose my own figures as a kid.:dead:

Spitfire 11-30-2007 11:52 PM

The turtles sell more because they package more in the boxes, then the toy collectors go to the store, buy up ALL the non-turtles, and all the kids have left to buy are the turtles.

I used to buy Spider-man figures like crack as a kid and I had about 90 Spider-mans because adults would buy all the Green Goblins and Venoms. I knew it was adults because I'd ask why they never had any and that was how it was explained to me. Now I know it's the retard toy companies to blame and not the collectors.

If they'd f'ing ship a decent amount of secondary characters in a case or made more they'd sell better. Not every freaking line has to have a turtle in it. It works for Batman and Spider-man because there aren't four heroes that have to be represented.

Extreme_Enigma 12-12-2007 06:03 PM

Does anyone even buy the first wave turtles still?

Who do you like better?

Jungle Leo / Leonardo (My answer: Jungle Leo)
Monster Capture Raph / Raphael (My answer: Monster Capture Raph)
Extreme Sports Mikey / Michelangelo (My answer: Extreme Sports Mikey)
Surveillance Don / Donatello (My answer: Donatello because of the spy gear:lol:)



But Still Jaguar was a great figure! :cry::cry::cry:

odupianist 12-13-2007 10:24 AM

I like Mike and Don of the first wave. Raph and Leo of the second wave.


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